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8:00 PM
Hmm
 
@tereško I only started using actual build tools for js last year
 
We tried dealing with actual immutability, but it was just too difficult to work with
 
I avoided them (for no good reason) before hand
 
When you have large chains of data transformation
 
I started using them about 27 hours ago
 
8:00 PM
@BenjaminGruenbaum What about them videos???????
 
@MadaraUchiha oh right!
 
my advice, pick one and stick too it :P jumping from grunt to gulp to webpack to <new flavour> fucks with me
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum >:(
 
fuck grunt
 
8:02 PM
I tried to use it at work today (to build a custom jquery-mobile) .. after 20 min of installing dependencies manually, it still failed because of some bullshit about FS
 
I kinda prefer gulp over webpack. but I haven't given webpack as much time of day as I have gulp
@FilipDupanović depending on the project I just use gulp or write a small build script myself with node
 
mmm I don't think it's fair to compare Gulp and Webpack
 
@Meredith still, may I say that it should not happen. If you end up with a large chain of method call, then something is wrong with the code.
(or the design of it)
 
@FilipDupanović it is for me, I can use them both to bundle the shit I was/am working with. Gulp was preferred
 
Not really
 
8:03 PM
Gulp adds a task API, a file type and a stream for it's file type; Webpack is like systemd... you can probably find behavior for a kitchen sink in it
 
It's pretty common if you're doing math
 
like ?
 
I'll give you an example hold on
 
@FilipDupanović tbf there is probably a gulp-kitchensink package :D
 
* holds *
 
8:04 PM
community support is outstanding
 
gulp-webpack
 
ROFL, please no
 
that one isn't a joke
 
that's like one of those Debian-BSD things
 
@tereško oh, what is the Debian-BSD thing?
 
8:06 PM
@FilipDupanović yes: debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu
 
@FilipDupanović they're almost identical
they're both globbing file processors
 
Is it worth joining a gym just to do cardio?
 
Gulp and Webpack?
 
@SterlingArcher hell no, buy a bike
 
Oh, random fact, I think I accidentally spotted Mars last night
 
8:08 PM
@SterlingArcher it's raining kinda of hard... I kind of want to use it as an excuse to not go to the gym after work... lol
I'll still go
 
I did the numbers and a basic set of free weights plus a decent bike costs as much as a year's gym membership
 
but damn
 
plus the huge benefit of not going to the gym
 
@KendallFrey sorry, that was your mum. she bent over to get something off the carpet
 
because going to a gym is the worst part
 
8:08 PM
@ndugger lol rain and shine bro, stick with it!
 
I only go to the gym because I wanted a personal trainer
 
@ssube well, to be honest, I might meet friends at the gym
 
if I knew how to work out properly, I'd get a weight set
 
That's the only reason I'm considering it
 
@rlemon there's no carpet in the sky, you idiot
 
8:09 PM
@ssube tghat's basically what I have been doing
 
@SterlingArcher if it's good weather i go run outside. Otherwyse in the gim. The next is doing strength training, which is in the gym. Then back running. All with at least 24h rest in between.
 
+ you get around in the city
 
I'm puttin in a home gym / bar
I figure they pair well together
 
I hear meeting women at the gym is pretty common lol
 
don't forget a pole robert
 
8:09 PM
Plus you get some support from regulars
 
sure, fit ladies are attractive
 
@SterlingArcher that takes some talent. never approach them while working out -- always after.
 
Met some. Had good nights
 
I'm a fit lady ;)
 
you are a bird
 
8:10 PM
you're a troll
 
@SterlingArcher gym, dive bar, abortion support groups
 
long haired, sneaky face.
 
they're about equal on the scale of nope
 
Dive bars are out lol I'm giving up weekday drinking
We went to the bar last night and I had water and a salad
 
a thalad?
you had a thyalad?
 
8:11 PM
Yes, you fuckhead
 
yyyyy @SterlingArcher? coming back home 4AM Monday is the best
 
A shalad
 
@FilipDupanović it's not the drunk part I'm worried about, it's the health part. :( Beer has too many calories
 
switch to rum
 
8:12 PM
@SterlingArcher fast so you can break!
 
Vodka for me. But that's on the weekends
 
isn't vodka the least calories per drunk?
also vodka is the best
because vodka is great
 
yea but vodka is gross
rum >>>> vodka
 
@SterlingArcher You're turning into a woman Jordan :'(
 
go back to canada you dirty pirate
 
8:13 PM
everything is gross first 100ml
 
Don't drink if you can't afford to drink what you like
Saving calories by drinking diet coke and vodka just makes you a bad person
 
@ssube in Soviet Russia, Pirate says Rum is best. go harvest your potatoes
 
^ I drink topshelf because i hate myself
 
@KendallFrey Don't be a jerk
 
@SterlingArcher I drink top shelf when I hate myself.
 
8:13 PM
No
 
and occasionally mid shelf
 
@KendallFrey just trying to lose some weight and feel good about myself :D
 
I only drink bottom shelf when I showed up drunk and finished my own booze
 
I drink bottom shelf rum. because when you mix it doesn't make THAT MUCH of a difference (white rum only, spiced rum it makes a fuckload of difference)
 
This is my typical workday munch. Dinner varies
 
8:14 PM
@SterlingArcher You can eat all the foods you love and still lose weight with this one simple trick!
 
Fuck off LOL
 
@KendallFrey take the weight and put it somewhere you won't remember?
 
I lost weight from eating only chicken mcnuggets, once. I was just only eating them, and once a day. My calorie intake went down, so I was losing weight. My cholesterol got really bad, though
It ruined me
 
@SterlingArcher you should try the cherry diet
 
@SterlingArcher gin tonic has more calories than beer. So does fanta. Or Coca Cola...
 
8:17 PM
@KarelG depends on the sweetener for fizzy drinks
 
fanta, now there's something I haven't had in a while
 
i hope that everyone here is smart to not drink sport drinks. It is only useful for people whom sports intensively. (Check how many sugar it has...)
 
@KendallFrey are you floating along in a...
 
oh for fucks sake lol
 
@KarelG I love sports drink, when I play sports
 
8:18 PM
if you don't practice sport for at least a hour, then it's not for you.
 
@KarelG I thought it was better than water because it has electrolytes and stuff
 
it isn't :)
 
it's designed to give you energy and rehydrate you
 
not to substitute for water in normal life
 
8:19 PM
@KarelG hangovers bro
 
I've been watching some guy on youtube talk about his weightloss journey; He lost 170lbs. It's my main motivation this time around. If he can lose 170lbs, I can surely lose 50. I need to stop being a fuck, and do what I need to do.
 
I keep gatorade and multivitamins around for the day after parties and raves
 
yes but it gives you too much energy than what you're loosing when sporting < 1h
 
Gatorade > anything else when I'm thirsty
No matter how thirsty I am one bottle will completely quench my thirst
 
Not everybody is trying to lose weight
Gatorade is fine
Especially if you've been sweating a lot
 
8:21 PM
also, these nutrients like vitamins, electrolytes, ... will be peed away if your body doesn't need it
 
But it's by no means low calorie
 
which is intentional, really
 
I've been drinking so much water this past 2 weeks, it's ridiculous. It's crazy just how much water has changed how I feel throughout the day.
 
I mean
It was designed for florida football players to drink during games
 
that's an intensive sport ...
not a simple bicycle trip to the local bar
 
8:22 PM
oh yes the one where you sit for 90% of the game
very intensive
 
@Meredith and now it's becoming popular in Amazon warehouses
 
@KendallFrey That depends on how shit you are
 
@ndugger no
 
In HS, I started and played through full games because I was a fucking awesome lineman
 
@KendallFrey Like you realize why they have to sit down so much, right?
Cuz the sport is so intense that they would literally die if they didn't
 
8:23 PM
@ndugger very rare in professional sports
well, not "very" but rare
 
@Meredith nah mate
soccer is like football without breaks, they're always running
 
@Meredith oh, you mean european football
 
I've played football, hockey, rugby, and lacrosse in HS -- rugby then hockey then lacrosse then football as far as energy intensive
 
in american football, there's no risk of dying, because you spend 5% of the game moving at all
 
@KendallFrey soccer is like football but they fake all of their injuries
 
8:24 PM
it's a very shit game where almost nothing happens and nobody can decide on the rules
 
I don't think you've watched either sport
 
plus they're mostly cheating now
 
@KendallFrey naaah, players wind down and walk a lot when the action is far away... can't counter if you're always next to the ball
 
american football is pretty terrible
the world cup, however, is awesome
 
@FilipDupanović Well yeah but compared to other sports, soccer is one of the hardest
 
8:25 PM
@FilipDupanović why I put hockey > lacrosse for energy -- lacrosse you kinda can do the same
 
for me anyway
I always get super winded during soccer
 
I don't watch sports at all anymore, but I know that I refuse to watch a sport where they fake all of their injuries and then get mad if they get found out.
 
paintball was the most intense sport I every played
 
@KendallFrey apparently ( I read somewhere ) moto cross is the most physically demanding
 
@KendallFrey um, maybe become a better tornado, if you keep getting winded
 
8:26 PM
The only sport I watch anymore is basically Formula 1
#flamebait
 
I don't watch sports anymore
 
@rlemon I can believe that
 
The only sport I watch is professional spongebobbing
 
neither.. but if e-sports pick up... might be a different thing
 
It isn't that I don't enjoy sports -- but keeping up is so time intensive
 
8:27 PM
oh yeah
 
I can't be watching every game / keep track of players and shit like I used too
 
@FilipDupanović lol
 
@rlemon not if your whole life revolves around drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes and betting
 
@rlemon Formula 1 is only every other week or so :)
 
@ssube the worldcup of football is actually "rugby", pretty common here in europe and Australia/new-zealand
 
8:27 PM
@KendallFrey is it anything like NASCAR with the stats and betting?
 
> Look at the nerds sitting in rows OH I THINK SOMETHING HAPPENED let's switch to the instant replay OH THERE HE POPPED AMPHETAMINES and that's it for this week folks, tune in next time for more e-sports.
 
oi
 
@rlemon nah, Formula 1 turns left and right.
 
@rlemon I don't know anything about betting in NASCAR, but the culture around F1 is way different
 
F1 is hell boring
 
8:28 PM
So what's a "good calorie" drink that I can drink when I'm too full to eat more?
 
@ssube don't be silly, I bet there's less drugs in e-sports
 
@SterlingArcher bro -- just change your salad a bit
 
@SterlingArcher Water?
 
if you can't eat more, stop taking with calories.
so water
 
a handful of nutts will help
 
8:28 PM
@KarelG The main reason I watch it is I love driving that kind of car/track
 
@FilipDupanović nah, they do a tremendous amount of drugs, because there are no standards and nobody cares.
 
I have peanuts at my desk :)
 
it's a bunch of 20-something kids playing video games in the dark, you bet your ass they're on literal piles of drugs
 
@KarelG his problem is he is filling up with empty calories. he's full at 1700
 
@ssube and standards help with what, when everyone is duping :P?
 
8:29 PM
but he's a 6'3" 200+lb man who works out daily
 
that is too few calories
 
What replaced deprecated HTML5 localstorage? Webcache?
 
1700 ? that's not much
 
@FilipDupanović it discourages the obvious ones
 
8:29 PM
I'm averaging 1700 calories a day, and I'm burning upwards of 3400 a day
 
@SterlingArcher not that I condone drinking your calories, but if you're full, you could honestly just go with a Naked juice
 
there was an article recently on how a lot of e-sports "players" just sit there slamming amphetamines all day
 
I like the green machine one
 
@ssube Dutchies said 80% of their representatives on Tour de France from 2003 took illegal substances
 
@SterlingArcher bring more carb in your food then
 
8:30 PM
At 39, I gain weight at around 2700 calories a day
 
@SterlingArcher like I said, just change up your meals a bit
 
Desk job tho
 
Italy says competitive cyclists as young as 15 are on stimulants
 
Aren't carbs bad?
 
@taco localStorage isn't deprecated
 
8:30 PM
Yeah I guess. I kinda like what I'm eating though lol
 
@ndugger oh ok, i was looking at caniuse.com/#feat=offline-apps
 
@FilipDupanović designer ones, probably, not shitty street speed
 
@SterlingArcher only eat a little bit of them, but don't avoid them altogether. Just be smart about when you eat them
 
@SterlingArcher too much of anything is a bad thing
 
but then again, I know nothing
 
8:31 PM
carb free diet kills you
 
So what's a good carb?
 
@ssube still creepy... it seems like having to take something is the norm
 
@taco that's an old spin off firefox's package web app thing
 
@SterlingArcher moderation
 
@ssube I see, thanks
 
rice > potato > bread/pasta
lots of rice
 
@rlemon oh
 
@FilipDupanović yes, but regulations at least discourage people from buying cheap random drugs
 
mm I could go for some rice right now
 
cause most of those will show up on a screening
 
8:32 PM
So like, toast and peanut butter would probably be a good one
 
Oh, I see it's called name-value storage. caniuse.com/#feat=namevalue-storage
 
you have to get research chemicals they don't screen for
 
@rlemon why is pasta on the last place ?
 
@SterlingArcher yup -- when people scream "omg that is so bad" -- relative terms baby cakes. you will lose weight and still be healthy
 
@Trasiva lmao
 
8:32 PM
@ssube at the time the sample was taken, that's a pretty raw deal your coaches are pushing you into
 
@rlemon Quinoa > rice
 
@ndugger what can we do to support each other here?
 
@Meredith farro > quinoa
 
@Meredith I LOVE quinoa
 
@SterlingArcher high fives
 
8:34 PM
at least in hipster-levels
 
A pinch of chicken bullion and quinoa set it off
 
Quinoa and brown rice have very similar calorie counts, but quinoa has more protein and fiber in it
 
@ndugger ^5
 
ty all for raising the prices on staple crops
 
@SterlingArcher if you can get broth, use that
salt is pretty bad
 
8:35 PM
@KendallFrey The irony is amazing there, haha.
 
Nah, salt isn't bad on its own; it just increases hunger, which can lead to other overeating.
 
@Meredith eh, i'm quite skeptical about that "superfood" as quinoa
 
Just keep within your calorie count, and you're fine
 
How is it a superfood
 
@ndugger it is, though. There's a very small band in which salt is good.
 
8:36 PM
It just has more protein than rice
 
You can very easily get into heart-problem levels of salt in one sitting.
it's like 1-3g/day or something, not sure where the article is. The FDA recs are super low, but more than that is actually super bad.
 
@ssube sorry, I was thinking more in the lines of weightloss. I'm pretty confident that sodium does not affect weightloss directly. That's all I meant.
 
@Meredith it got labeled as that
 
@ndugger oh, yeah probably
 
I went way above my sodium count yesterday. Apparently caesar dressing is really bad for you, lol
 
8:37 PM
water is pretty bad... it's acidic, corrosive, you can die if you ingest too much
 
so no more of that for me
 
@ndugger most salad dressing is
 
I mean, no more dressing for me, really. Or just very, very small ammounts
 
quinoa doesn't have lots of protein.
hmmm .. * checks *
 
8:38 PM
I wish I liked avocados. The Mountain eats like 3 a day
 
@FilipDupanović water is only acidic if it's got something acidic in it
 
@SterlingArcher I like quacamole, and I'll eat avocado if it's in stuff, but I don't like it on its own
 
I need to get this egg salad recipe my mom made. It's got avocado in it and i actually like it
Eggs and avocado? Super
 
@SterlingArcher wanna know the most delicious, worst for you salad ever?
 
@ssube Taco salad?
 
8:41 PM
Meat?
 
you cook up bacon, then pull it out of the pan but leave the grease. Crack an egg into the hot grease, then stir in cider vinegar and sugar. Crumble the bacon and add it back in, then pour over spinach.
 
ambrosia salad
 
wait no meat is good
 
@ssube is mayo one of the ingredients?
mmmmmm
 
@FilipDupanović no, I live in MN, I'm not from here.
 
8:41 PM
 
^ mayo!
 
ew
 
!!afk walkies
 
if it's sour cream... ain't delish enough!
 
Beware of any recipe that mixes whipped cream with sour cream
 
8:42 PM
ambrosia salad and watergate salad and all of them are whipped cream
 
You know what would be really good? An avacado spread for sandwiches, as an alternative to mayo.
I should invent things
 
@ndugger think there are some
 
I love inventing food
 
I like to use black bean hummus for a sandwich spread
 
I bet bacon grease would make a delicious spread
 
8:45 PM
any grease is like... awesomesauce
 
I have actually had bread fried in beef fat
 
esp if you used some herbs and they dissolved even more awesomeness into the juice
 
How are you not fatter than me?
 
@KendallFrey dun like it man
@ndugger you mean... avocados?
 
@ndugger it's just... people with their own complex builds and diets
 
8:46 PM
@ndugger iirc, he's from eastern europe, where all they have to eat are shoes and grease
 
@ssube nah, I want you to process it and remove all the nutrients and inject green dye to keep it always looking fresh.
 
@Meredith Do you make it yourself?
 
They used to sell it at publix
 
@Meredith black bean anything is dope
 
But I haven't seen it in a while
 
8:47 PM
black bean burgers are the only good substitute for meat
 
So I haven't been eating sandwiches lately
 
I should buy veggie burger patties
 
My sister eats them all the time
I think they're gross
 
@ndugger make black bean burgers
 
@Meredith It's stupidly easy to make.
 
8:48 PM
I like them; they're a bit salty, but taste fine
 
@Meredith that's a complex formula :P But that doesn't happen often, and i usually wrap SUM or PI in a loop
 
@Meredith not if you fry them in toooons of oil ^^
 
they're cheaper, easier, and way better
 
@ssube I'll give it a try
 
@ndugger the beans are mild enough that you mostly end up with the spices
 
8:49 PM
@KarelG It can happen pretty often
 
vs normal veggie patties that taste like the shit you dig out of the lawn mower
 
Unless you just build rest apis for a living
You're going to have to do some math
But, hey, at least none of them are as bad as the stackoverflow one at the bottom
 
if theres an ajax request in progress, does it block me from closing the tab until it finishes?
 

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