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3:00 PM
@Loktar o/
 
o/ @Kitler
 
how's it going
been a while :D
 
you can propose stricter rules about grammar on the GH repo, but that sounds like a losing battle, tbh, because the internet is notorious for bad grammar
 
@Loktar I disagree. correcting peoples grammar when you've been asked to stop is subjectively trolling.
 
eh pretty good, in the middle of a move + tons of shit at work
 
3:00 PM
Blame my bad memory
 
@rlemon well I mean I'd call him a troll if I didn't know him, he has been here for years I really think it's just how he is.
 
@rlemon I disagree, trolling is deliberately provoking a reaction just for the sake of provoking the reaction.
 
@Loktar yea, note my "asked to stop" comment.
 
obviously it is a real annoyance to him. But yeah I understand your point still @rlemon
 
3:01 PM
so @JanDvorak, can you lay off?
 
doing something to someone after being asked to stop is taking it a step beyond "just being him"
 
if it's really bad, we'll kick them
 
yeesh, this just seems to be getting out of hand
I think the arguing over the arguing is worse than the initial offense lol
I would prefer to not see @JanDvorak get kicked
 
So, am I allowed to correct "u"?
 
@Loktar there were a few people prodding and making it worse
 
3:02 PM
@JanDvorak I would just not correct anyone's grammar unless they ask for it honestly.
sometimes @FlorianMargaine will ask for clarification for example since English isn't his first language.
 
How do they know they may ask?
 
@JanDvorak If somebody is using nothing but text speak, let them know that's posted in the rules, then ping an RO to kick them?
 
45 mins ago, by rlemon
@JanDvorak fine. like I said, if you use the absolutely wrong word that is one thing, if you fat finger a few words that is another. correcting someone for a few typos insistently gets annoying.
like an hour ago I said all of this
 
^
 
which is when the conversation should have ended
 
3:03 PM
@rlemon so this has been going on longer than I saw lol sorry for lack of context ;p
 
@Loktar ohh yea
 
OK, roger that. I shouldn't be correcting others' typos.
 
right
 
May I on main, though?
 
user3119231
3:04 PM
oh, you are already here
 
@JanDvorak there you can suggest edits, which get applied in-line, not as a second message creating noise.
IMO that's a pretty big difference and the heart of the problem.
 
Is it still creating noise if my correction gets applied and I remove the message?
I understand your point, though
 
dunno, but you can't know if that will happen before you post it, so... maybe don't use that often?
Correcting factual errors or typos causing them is one thing, but punctuation usually doesn't matter.
 
anyone worked with jquery Datatables API?
 
@FlorinSecal Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
3:07 PM
Do apostrophes count as factual errors?
 
i.imgur.com/MnoxTPd.gifv omg, I thought it was a shark and it bit her, but that's a fish! What is happening?!
 
Can you read the word and understand what it means? prob doesn't need to be fixed.
 
Correcting documentation should be encouraged. But in here it's a bit like correcting your mates at the pub.
 
Your misplaced space did cause me to parse that sentence slower, though
I would correct my mates at a pub if they misused "literally"
 
@JanDvorak "Factual error" is pretty definitive: it makes the technical content wrong, that's that.
 
3:09 PM
Yeah, but doing it a lot in an informal setting would get wearisome.
 
OK. I thought you made a dichotomy between factual errors and typos and punctuation errors.
 
I'd suggest just setting a good example and hope people catch on.
 
@JanDvorak keep it up and I'm going to quote the dictionary at you that defines "literally" as "figuratively." :P
 
@SterlingArcher I love wings... I'm gonna miss junky foods, but I'm pretty sick of being a fatass. I just worked out yesterday, and I hurt like hell, but I feel motivated to go again today, so I'm gonna run home, grab my shorts and shoes, and hop on a treadmill, maybe do 3 miles or so.
 
If people want to stick around here they'll generally take cues from the regulars.
 
3:11 PM
@ssube That's just one dictionary. I also think they use "in common usage". And this statement alone causes me to disrespect them as a reference for the english language.
(also, *to you)
 
@ndugger the best advice for you here, please stretch first. It makes pushing past the burn 100x easier. Do 10 minutes of light yoga/stretches before running or lifting
 
user1596138
@SterlingArcher I did that on my 4 wheeler!!
 
Oh, and take a cold shower/bath after. It helps with the soreness and recovery
 
@JanDvorak nah, it's quoting at you when I'm standing there reading it off whether you like it or not.
 
@SterlingArcher I don't know proper stretching... I'll just wing it
 
3:13 PM
I guess I should look it up...
 
@ndugger I can help you. My mom teaches yoga professionally, so I've picked up on quite a bit. We can hangouts stretch before running tonight?
no homo?
 
You throw a ball to somebody when they're expecting it and at them when they aren't.
 
@SterlingArcher I'm not gonna have time. I have to beat the traffic in order to grab a treadmill. I live in a really busy area
the gym was full after work yesterday
 
That ... seems logical. Is it a false analogy though?
 
@ndugger no worries, you can call me anytime
Literally lol
 
3:15 PM
LITERALLY
 
Is your use of "literally" an invitation to be called at the worst time possible? :-D
 
@SterlingArcher I'm totally gonna call you while you're banging.
 
I mean, there really isn't a worst possible time for me lol my cell phone doesn't get reception at work until I go outside (I have an office phone), and if i'm asleep, I'll sleep through my phone ringing. And ssubey, if I'm banging, my phones on vibrate so good luck lol
 
So he can't call you while you're at work.
... or asleep
 
I can call him, he just won't answer it
 
3:18 PM
Well, he can but I won't even see it ring. I'll just get a voicemail notification
 
LITERALLY
 
@SterlingArcher please don't use your phone as vibrator itself
 
Isn't that called "trying to call sb."?
 
@KarelG I mean...
 
Usually "you can call me" implies the call will be picked up.
 
3:20 PM
LITERALLY
 
@SterlingArcher Just give me a heads up and I'll keep calling you so you can use it for things. ;)
 
lmao gross
 
@ndugger Please stop saying things with the sole intention to annoy others.
 
@JanDvorak Says the pot to the kettle.
 
If you're implying I say things just to annoy others.... you're dead wrong.
 
3:23 PM
Your intentions might not be so, but you definitely do annoy others with your corrections.
 
Guys, if anybody here has an iphone, I 100% suggest getting an Apple Battery case. It's so cool.
It extends your battery by like... 75%
 
I only use blackberry phones. They're superior
 
Is that a thing that lets you replace your battery once it dies of old age so that you don't have to discard the whole device?
 
@SterlingArcher or just turn your phone off occasionally
or get a phone with battery life
 
No way man, what if I get a tinder match
 
3:25 PM
Have you considered finding people by meeting them in real life?
 
@SterlingArcher I think I'm gonna delete all those shitty apps and just focus on myself and my health for a while.
 
Have you seen me?
 
No, John Cena
 
@ndugger I should probably follow suit there. I'm doing well health wise now, but these apps are making me depressed
 
A nice way to put it is that if a person avoids you because of how you look they don't deserve you
 
3:27 PM
@SterlingArcher Same.
 
That's why I buy expensive things, so people notice me more
 
Does it work?
 
Bash scripting is bleh.
 
Kinda yeah, actually. No gold diggers, which is cool, but I've met a couple dudes that complimented it.
I do get eyeballed more with the car and the watch though, which is a little confidence boost. Once I reach my goal weight though, I'll have such a confidence spike
 
I can't recommend that
 
3:30 PM
I got fitter, got looks. put a ring on my ring finger, looks stopped. either I got ugly, or at my age the ring is an instant turn off.
 
Perhaps people just thought the ring means you're not for sale?
 
rings mean you're for sale, but no longer free
that price is too high for most people
 
just because you're on a diet doesn't mean you can't look at the desert menu
I didn't expect all looks to just stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
especially the ones who are all weird and "respect the institution of marriage so get the fuck out of my house you bastard"
 
3:32 PM
Traditionally marriage would mean you aren't going to marry someone else soon after.
It might be painful to keep looking at things you can't have.
 
!!afk lunch
 
Inb4 @Loktar "I still get looks, you jus got ugly :p"
 
BTW, any chance we'd be getting rid of that hammertime joke? It's one of those I don't mind, but it's still getting a bit old.
And, to use words that have been used against me, noise.
 
Guys. I can't find any simple way to open a window from electron to a route in react
 
@JanDvorak raise an issue on the repo and see how the votes go.
 
3:36 PM
BTW, what do the regulars think, should I be a RO?
 
51 secs ago, by rlemon
@JanDvorak raise an issue on the repo and see how the votes go.
For both.
 
I was trying to get a sample, but roger.
 
Ohh well then by all means. Ask away, but you can always re-ask on the repo and use the first as a feeler
 
!!afk my god wants me at a certain place at a certain time.
 
@rlemon ;)
lol
Who doesn't love Hammer Time?!
damn man
 
3:40 PM
@Loktar likely the same people who don't appreciate the fine art of Rebecca Black
 
fine art?
nah
 
you're on thin ice
 
very thin ice
 
Some people enjoy the song.
 
Ke$ha is our goddess 6.5 days of the week, but not during Rebecca's day.
 
3:42 PM
I listen to it every Friday
 
On Friday, Ke$ha (may her name always contain a dollar sign) falls behind the world to refresh her sparkles and glitter, and Rebecca takes over.
 
Anyone in here like Total War games?
Total War Warhammer came out yesterday, pretty effin great
 
@Loktar THEY'RE MAKING A WARHAMMER ONE
@Loktar OMG
 
:)
Yeah I like it a lot
 
3:45 PM
how's the variety of factions and units?
 
runs better than Rome 2, and Hannibal at the Gates did
 
it's Warhammer Classic, right?
 
5 factions, unit variation is insane
I feel like I'm learning the game from scratch again
 
I really liked the first Rome
 
yeah classic, not 40k
 
3:46 PM
R:TW was my favorite
 
@GNi33 that is still my fav one
 
Medieval and Napolean were kinda meh
 
My son even plays Rome still
and I think it came out the year he was born lol
Ah the year after I guess, damn 2004
but yeah Warhammer is pretty good
 
are these RTS games?
 
stacking a pile of fire archers and artillery outside of a city and burning it to the ground is great
 
3:47 PM
@ndugger ish
Campaign map is Turn Based, Battles are Real time
 
@ndugger RTS battles, vaguely turn-y overland maps and unit building. No real base building.
 
The only RTS game that I've ever liked is Red Alert
 
they're in the giant stack of units style
 
all in game footage
Troop formations. maneuvering is important in the Total War games
 
@Loktar did you ever play Mark of Chaos?
 
3:49 PM
Can't just throw a blob of units in and expect to win for example, like many RTS's
 
it was the weird one-off WH game between DoW and DoW2, iirc
pretty good though
 
@ssube I own it.. and always wanted to play it, but never got around to it :/
I have it physically even, was going to install it a few months ago and got sidetracked
 
@Loktar would you rate that game over Shogun 2 ?
(the new TW game, warhammer)
 
@Loktar oh, do it. It's Total War/LoL.
 
@KarelG I barely played Shogun 2
I don't love the Japanese setting
 
3:50 PM
you have a hero with items and skills (and later more than one hero), plus unit placement and formations
 
but I did love the first Shogun, that was fucking great
 
Before Atilla, i found that the best total war game
 
I prefer games where you play a single person; more rpg-esque.
 
@KarelG yeah most people seem to say that actually
 
Rome2 is decent too, sadly it's a performance nightmare
 
3:50 PM
haha yes
this one runs pretty well at 1440 for me, over 50fps on a single card
once they release the DX12 stuff it should be faster as well for me
@ssube damn nice, yeah this one has hero units as well
with skill trees, and items even
 
huh, sounds an awful lot like MoC
 
i conquered whole italy as Nervii. History reversed :D
but I had a LOT issues with the spartans, which had a large empire back then
 
I played as the Averni usually
I did miss the unlocking of factions from RTW. You started with just the roman ones, and had to defeat a faction to make it playable in the campaign. That was cool
 
I had east europe in my control, but the borders (macedonia, greece, ...) were hard to pass through since the spartans could protect it better
so ****'ed hannibal so that i conquer nothern africa so that i could intrude that empire from the south.
Finally managed to kick the spartans. Then conquered the regions in the iberian isles
 
haha nice
 
3:55 PM
had to pay them in the meanwhile so that they wouldn't attack me :|
i was like "now i want my money back"
 
So I'm trying to use swagger-ui to embed some documentation in a page (as opposed to swashbuckle's built-in page rendering so it's consistent with our menus and backgrounds and shit) and the suggested example makes it look so easy: just reference some javascript and do
var swaggerUi = new SwaggerUi({
  url:"http://petstore.swagger.io/v2/swagger.json",
  dom_id:"swagger-ui-container"
});
swaggerUi.load();
HOWEVER, it turns out that swagger-ui is heavily dependent on dependencies that depend on a particular old version of jquery
 
The names of things we use today... how does anyone take the FE world seriouisly
 
There's dollar signs everywhere warring and battling over which jquery is the one true god, and my only idea is to shove shit in an iframe
 
> Yeah man trying to use Swagger instead of swashbuckle
 
FE = ?
 
3:56 PM
^ not a joke on you @MikeAsdf btw just found it funny :p
Front end
 
yeah, we use such whimsical words
 
> heavily dependent on dependencies that depend on a particular old version of jquery
Ouch
 
"I've been trying to swagger the ruby into the perl so we can keep dogfooding the scrum masters"
 
lol
 
@MikeAsdf Ugh, I hate libraries that do that
 
3:59 PM
@MikeAsdf ugh
I've used Swagger
 
if you need jQuery, just ask for a jQuery instance in the constructor, don't guess it's there in the global space, dammit
 
"jQuery 1.8 is as far as we can go with the plugins and browser support"
 
> Is the IE6+ support that important? I'd be willing to bet that the people who are using swagger UI are developers with recent browser versions.
> We have some very large deployments which require this. Will drop support for ie7 or lower in 2.2.x.
lol wth, in 2015 as well
 
@Loktar they are most definitely not
swagger is for documenting Java APIs
large server-side Java stuff
 
ahh makes more sense then
so corporate environments basically
Still though IE6 in 2015 is pretty damn crazy
 
4:01 PM
>IE6
 
fed Gov dropped support in like 2013
 
Fed Govt. of the USA*
 
and the towers in '01
 
supporting IE6 is like trying to support windows3.1+Netscape
 
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARK
 
4:02 PM
dank
dank beams
 
@MadaraUchiha That took a wonderful turn
 
@KendallFrey :D
 
@MadaraUchiha ooooh
 
4:09 PM
> i.imgur.com/1EJPhZj.jpg she's like "yup, that's a wave. Interesting, how fucked I am" (from the comments)
 
@MadaraUchiha oh my god that last one....
 
does anybody know of any autocorrects or beautifiers that compliment eslint rules?
converting massing json objects to pure js for our eslint rules is insanely tedious
 
9/11 jokes are just plane wrong
 
dad joke
 
4:22 PM
Click at your own risk. Most are butthole clenching, but there are a couple rough ones
 
@MadaraUchiha oh you
I will never forget the brilliance that is s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr06/2013/9/6/18/…
 
Is it possible to make git push to two remotes at once, such that the writes only occur after git has verified the working tree is clean on both?
 
Sounds like a good question to ask on esdicuss
 
@AwalGarg yes: pull first
there's a reason git splits plumbing and porcelain
 
@ssube that can conflict with the current working dir, no?
like you pull, it creates a file in working dir without conflicts. we don't want that
and just fetching doesn't guarantee no conflicts on merging
 
4:29 PM
@AwalGarg then you compare the local branch with both remote branches, then push
it won't be reliable, because you can have race conditions
 
@ssube yeah, this is what the stem of the issue is
was wondering if git has some black magic to do that
 
@AwalGarg because git doesn't have locks
so between the time you get the last remote revision and push, somebody else can push
 
>:( stop giving me excuses. I need solution quick urgent pl0x do the needful kthnx
 
I'm actually not sure if you're joking or vamping at this point
 
You have two remotes with the different histories, and either can be pushed at any time and you want to keep your local version clean on both?
 
4:44 PM
yes. they are non-bare repos though, checked out on master, with recieve.denyCurrentBranch set to updateInstead.
 
$5 says you have an XY problem
 
no, I have a legacy problem
cba to explain to people why this setup is bad... so instead patching it T_T
 
Fuck solr. Fucking fuck solr fuck this fucking shit stupid ass connection piece of shit query string can't even find the port it lists on the fuck shit ass dashboard arguments. Fuck.
Ahem. Had to get that out sorry.
 
yay solr
 
what do you mean by "find the port?"
find out what the port is or get data from the port?
 
4:53 PM
Just freaking connecting. host+port+solr_path
I'm staring at the dashboard. The IP is in my URL.. it's the same as my environment.. the port is shown in the args, and the path is shown in the core module
I don't get it
 
@doug65536 flexfroggy was really helpful, thanks :)
 
The solr logs are empty, but all the environment tells me is 404, and stack traces back to the connection instance
instanceDir:/opt/solr/server/solr/select
dataDir:/opt/solr/server/solr/select/data/
 
what's your connection string?
also, do you have a box with telnet?
can you log into the server?
 
I'm in the admin panel right now
$rest = new RESTClient("http://${SOLR_HOSTNAME}:${SOLR_PORT}${SOLR_PATH}/");
 
> ${SOLR_PATH}/
does SOLR_PATH start with a slash?
 
4:56 PM
Wait sorry
public function __construct() {
		global $SOLR_HOSTNAME, $SOLR_PORT, $SOLR_PATH;

		$opts = array(
			'hostname' => $SOLR_HOSTNAME,
			'path'     => $SOLR_PATH,
			'port'     => $SOLR_PORT
		);

		$this->client = new SolrClient($opts);
	}
Ummm
Yes, it does
$SOLR_PATH = '/opt/solr/server/solr';
 
that's an awfully qualified path for a URL
 
<h2>HTTP ERROR: 404</h2>
<p>Problem accessing /opt/solr/server/solr/select/. Reason:
<pre>    Not Found</pre></p>
 
are you sure it's supposed to be the absolute install path?
 
-Dsolr.install.dir=/opt/solr
-Dsolr.solr.home=/opt/solr/server/solr
You mean one of those?
Tried them both
 

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