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10:00 PM
....for the chrome-debugger:// protocol?
 
uhh, no sorry, I thought you were missing proxies
 
hehe
 
+1
 
hey @Luggage! where'd you get the idea they didn't add support for proxies in Node 6?
 
anyways goodnight
 
10:02 PM
I was saying they DID.
or I thought they did.
 
@KarelG o/
 
they did ^^
uhhh, looks like Node 6 has full support
full support TM (some bits have to be activated with flags, a few are missing)
 
Yea.. I need to get around to upgrading. I have a use for proxies.
I only need basic property getters and setters.
 
I come from Python, I'd really like proxies
 
@Luggage what version do you run now?
 
10:06 PM
4.x
 
oh, why aren't you on 5?
 
because i'm not
 
I experienced problems with 5.x with const/let
reported ofc.
 
there's partial ES6 support in Node 5
 
but 4 seems more stable than 5
 
10:07 PM
(arrow functions ftw)
native Promise... I think that wasn't in 4, or
 
meh
 
I haven't been active in my node project for 5 months :(. I'll be going back to it very soon.
 
bluebird ftw
 
@rlemon meh, I'm glad I'm DONE with polyfills
 
bluebird isn't a fill
it expands promises and is in general faster
 
10:08 PM
well, it is, but not JUST a polyfill
 
^
I suppose
 
@rlemon when there was no native implementation, we had to polyfill and GUESS WHAT
 
I'm aware. I've been writing JS for a little bit now :P
 
we've taken substitutes that do more than what the specs outline
 
but Bluebird is more featured, faster, and on the server has no significant impact on the client
 
10:09 PM
I'm been polyfilling since you were in diapers. Now I polyfill my teeth.
 
@rlemon favorite stargate episode?
 
sg1 or sga
also I can't peg a specific ep, but I can a season
 
Episode 200 was funny.
 
sg1 - season 7 (4 is really good as well)
sga - season 4 (2 is also really good)
 
@Luggage my world so polyfilled I've been hydrating on Gatorade
 
10:14 PM
my world is so poly filled you could call it a throw pillow
 
Yup. A classic.
 
yea but you can only watch it so many times. #endedBeforeItsTime
:(
 
My current favorite series is Rick and Morty.
I can't get enough. It's the new Futurama.
 
10:15 PM
did you see the origin of that?
 
!!wiki Rick and Morty
 
Rick and Morty is an American adult animated science fiction sitcom created by Justin Roiland and Dan Harmon for Adult Swim. The series follows the misadventures of alcoholic scientist Rick and his easily influenced grandson Morty, who split their time between domestic family life and interdimensional travel. Roiland voices the series' eponymous characters, while the series also stars the voice talent of Chris Parnell, Spencer Grammer, and Sarah Chalke. The series has its origins in an animated parody of Back to the Future created by Roiland for film festival Channel 101. Adult Swim approached...
 
the back to the future spoof
holy hell those guys are fucking weird
<3 Rick and Morty
but wow
 
so dark.
 
so perverted
 
10:17 PM
"That's what you use my universe for? To start your car?!"
"Yea, but don't flatter yourself. There's always triple-A."
 
how weird? compare Rick and Morty to Aqua Teen Hunger Force
 
@FilipDupanović tl;dr it is a baack to the future spoof and marty has to lick docs balls to save the world / themselves
and he does
multiple times
Rick and Morty evolved from Marty and Doc from that spoof
 
wtf? I missed that episode.
 
it wasn't an ep
 
ohh, the original spoof. never saw it
@FilipDupanović just go watch it. It's on Hulu, I think.
 
Adult Swim... y u no want my moonies
!!riot
 
╯°□°)╯┻━┻
 
also youtube, but you have to pay for full episides there
 
at least Google took over the world
the part that walks with a shirt on top, at least
 
is this harsh?
I want to know where these people are learning to do $('#someid' + i) crap
does everyone independently come up with that? lol
 
10:24 PM
I agree that it's a sign of a bad design, but it's a fairly natural pattern that pops up if you are doing that type of page manipulation
DOM-as-application-state
 
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Q: How can we support languages other than English in Stack Overflow's chat... And should we?

Shog9This old question has come up again, this time sparked by a heaping pile of flags in a room dedicated to Gujarati Android developers. But the question isn't new; two years ago, this was the lament: This isn't one of our language Q&A sites. We don't allow anything other than English on the ma...

 
because $('.those-things').eq(i) or pure js array indexing
 
ok that was weird
 
@doug65536 Cache your DOM queries please
 
lol, I do. I let it go for 1-liners
 
10:30 PM
#nazi
 
You cache YOUR dom queries.
 
@Luggage I do cache my DOM queries, actually.
I also don't use jQuery, so there's that.
 
@doug65536 looks didactic to me (y)
 
ok good. thanks
how do you tell a student "oh please no!!!! that is awful!!!" without saying that?
I am really saying please no don't read those tutorials that told you this
 
10:34 PM
@rlemon OK so maybe I didn't snipe you exactly ... I guess you're asking a different thing in that comment
 
I'm big on focusing on what to do rather than what not to do. it is annoying to listen to someone go on and on about how bad a thing is
 
@doug65536 in the office, I'd probably pass someone a URL and ask them to read it and take time to consider what is it that they're doing wrong\
 
@TylerH honestly my only concern would be more flag noise
otherwise, I'm all for it
 
yeah
really the flagging queue is a mess anyway
 
the system already isn't perfect, so adding more areas for confusion / failure seems iffy
 
10:36 PM
no queue on the site includes enough context to intelligently respond without leaving the queue for more info
 
@doug65536 hey, it's all cool, as long as you're arguments are good and the other people don't take it personally :D
 
10:50 PM
I've fantasized about putting ctrl-v repetition detectors on dev's keyboards. report in a screenshot if three consecutive ctrl-v detected, lol. put the clipboard text in the metadata
there is actually a C++ tool called copy-paste-detector
 
I copy paste my own code all the time
so that would lead to a lot of false positives in my case :P
 
blocks though? and tweak a few things?
 
or utilities I've stashed
 
yeah of course, but you don't say "oh I need three of them" and highlight a giant block of code and copy and hit ctrl-v three times, right?
 
well not three times.
 
10:54 PM
collapsing repetition is very important. main reason is you want bugs to be in one place, not repeated in N clones of that fragment of code
 
Agreed.
 
Agree to c'est la vie
 
Guys, veggies and hummus is awesome. No more fatty gross dressing with veggies for me
 
so when you scaleY -1 are you guaranteed to get flipped scrollbar?
because either chrome is genius with its overflow: auto with scale, or it is spec'd like that
 
@ndugger veggies alone are also pretty cool.
I dropped dipping / sauce all together and love it
 
11:04 PM
I'll get there eventually
Hummus is a good stepping stone
 
not with all things. but veg I find to be pretty good alone
 
This is so delicious. I'd previous only had hummus with pita. THis is next level shit. SO much better than with pita
 
I can't get firefox to stop going to https for my site
and yes I went into config and turned off the autocomplete options
and I'd rather not clear history
 
@ndugger like avocado?
 
carrots go well with hummus
 
11:05 PM
carrot sticks with some blended avocado is nice.
 
I tolerate avacado. I love guacamole.
 
hey I could use IP address...
 
my goto snack is peppers, cucumber, or carrot sticks.
all tasty without anything else.
 
I love carrots on their own. I love broccoli on its own as well, but because it kind of falls apart in your mouth, its easier to eat with a dip.
 
do you like pickles ?
 
11:08 PM
yeah, wow, firefox flips the scrollbar when you scaleY -1 too. That makes my life completely easy
 
Yeah
 
pickles are extremely low cal.
also a decent snack. but sometimes high in sodium (well, mostly)
 
implementing the smoothest possible scrolling chat window using scale
no need to chase the end of the document. to put a new message at the end, I prepend the child
 
Pickles don't really do anything for you though, nutrition-wise.
 
neither does chips
I'm talking that late night craving food
the hardest ones to kick
 
11:10 PM
I suppose
I'm just trying to be meanignful with what I eat
 
I prepend upside down rows to an upside down div and it comes up at the end with no scrolling. rows grow up from the bottom and when it overflows, you appear to be scrolled to the bottom and more rows just change scrollbar thumb
 
except for those fish tacos I had for lunch...
but I ran 2 miles today, so I'm good
 
I'm just giving you some backups incase you feel the need to snack
 
by the way, I did try those all dressed chips, and they're not even that good
 
heathen
 
11:12 PM
probably
 
@KendallFrey you hearing this
what brand?
basically you have to get ruffles
 
Yeah, ruffles
 
hrm
 
They just taste like vinegar and barbeque sauce
nothing special
 
to each their own I suppose
 
11:13 PM
I still have most of what I bought in the bag (I just wanted to try them). I'll unload the rest on my friends that are coming over this weekend. I'll see what they think of them
 
tbf all dressed isn't my favorite. but I do enjoy them.
dill pickle > salt and vinegar > all dressed > ketchup > bbq > plain
 
I prefer sour cream and onion chips
but now I can't eat chips :(
 
and Jalapeno Mrs Vickies > all
 
I'm all out of brocoli now :( Tons of carrots left, though
 
11:15 PM
best possible chip ever
 
When you eat those salt and vinegar chips you can literally feel your entire mouth being eaten away
It's great
 
I'm somehow immune to that. I don't like sweets but I LOVE salty and sour.
 
I'm glad I'm not immune cuz it feels great
 
like, I don't like cake, chocolate, etc. but a large bag of sour patch kids I'll destroy in no time with no repercussions on my mouth.
 
11:17 PM
Sour patch kids are the best
 
Swedish fish
 
I'm eating coconut strips from trader joes
 
people get offended when you don't like sweets. it is weird. I refuse cake at a party and everyone gives me a strange look
 
Yeah I don't like sweets that much either
 
@Meredith ever get strange looks for it?
 
11:19 PM
Take the damn cake, then sneak it to me later.
 
Nah I'm usually pretty polite about it
But I do get weird looks when I eat lunch
 
I've always been super thin in the past. I'm thinking they thought I was dieting while already underweight when in fact I just don't like sweet things.
 
@rlemon define thin
 
now, I'm not fat right now.. not at all. but I am for the first time seeing some fat on my body which concerns me.
@William in HS I was ~5% body fat -- and I lost weight. when I started dating my current SO I was 118lbs.
 
And you're a man so by the time you start seeing fat, you've already added a bunch of fat
 
11:20 PM
That is f***g thin
 
I'm broad and 5'8-5'9
@Meredith my current (educated) guess is about 18%. but I'm still not all that visible because I was at my peak before hand
 
You're straight up not gonna be able to tell unless you jump into a tank of water
 
tl;dr was weight training and had a series of accidents. broke my wrist, severed a ligament. tossed a few discs, cracked my tailbone. tore a ligament in my foot.
 
No spotter?
 
@Meredith yea I am aware. in HS we did. which is why I know I was that thin. now I'm relying on that bio-metric step on sensor crap.
@William only one of the accidents was while training
the wrist.
the accidents happened over about 8mo
all the while I was coming off weight training hard. :/
 
11:23 PM
Oh 5% isn't that low for men
 
@Meredith it is pretty low for a kid. I was the lowest in the class
healthy adult men are around 8-10%
 
No but like I'd be dead at 5%
 
118 lbs is light for 5'9
 
ohh yea for women that is crazy low
@William I can try to find a picture.
 
My brother is 5 10 and 130 he is crazy skinny no fat in my opinion
 
11:25 PM
if I were lanky it wouldn't be so bad
 
196 and 5'10
 
but, again, I'm broad.
 
I'm overweight
 
so at that weight you I looked like I was on chemo
multiple people questioned it :/
 
My fat percentage is disgusting. Thankfully, I find it disgusting.
 
11:26 PM
@William Dang that's basically what I weigh and I'm nowhere near 5'9"
 
@ndugger On a scale of 0 to boogie2988, where are you?
 
I'm nowhere near that large
 
I'm fat but not fat enough to be worried, and relatively in control of my weight
 
210lbs 6'3
 
i.e. you've peaked
 
11:29 PM
apparently my picture taking skills are shit
 
I could easily be like 180lbs though
 
this is me right now at 81kg
I'm not fat, but I do have more fat than I'd like
 
@SterlingArcher You're how tall?
 
You're doing a pretty word pose
weird*
 
trying to show my belly isn't sticking out
 
11:30 PM
@Meredith I'm careful not to say overweight around family. Females have a different scale. Anyways I believe I'm just barely overweight for my age.
 
By turning your shoulder inward?
 
oh neat I see what happens, scaleY makes the scrollbar upside down too. I have to reverse the scroll wheel and keyboard interface
 
rlemon it looks like you have a b**er
 
@Meredith ohh no that wasn't on purpose.
 
Yeah I'm not trying to say that it was
Just that that's an angle that would hide a belly
 
11:32 PM
this is me... really wish I could lose all that air weight...
 
serious man tits too
 
this doesn't show either :D
@Codeman I was weight training. only like 25% of that is man tits :D
if I don't start again the rest will be too :/
 
@rlemon I meant me :P
 
@Codeman is that a beanbag chair with a balloon
 
11:33 PM
your pic just looks like you lift weights more than you run. you're in shape, it looks like
 
this is me a year out of shape.
 
does look like you need to work on legs a bit more though, your traps are overdeveloped compared to the rest of you
 
my legs were always my strong point. I didn't not work on my legs, but I did focus on my upper.
wanted that inverted triangle.
 
@William my GF stuffed a bunch of balloons in one of my t-shirts and put it in my computer chair
 
lol
 
11:34 PM
There was a brief time when I was in Texas that my pants size went up to 40... that was scary. I brought it down a size before coming back to MN
 
@ndugger a few months ago I hit a 32 waist. that was my tripping point -- like I couldn't work out but I had to stop gaining
now I'm back to a 30/31 depending on the jean
 
My goal is to get down to size 34
 
32 isn't bad if you wear your pants on your hips
 
all of this is relative. like I said I've always been very thin.
I was an adult with a 28/29 waist
 
I've always been big. I remember noticing in 3rd grade
 
11:36 PM
my pants are so weird
 
I'm assuming 32 just means a 32 inch waist
 
I have some 36W that don't fit and some 32W that do fit... from the same manufacturer.
 
Right?
 
I must have shrunk them or something
 
@Meredith because I sold womens jeans to men, I needed to know the conversion. I was able to squeeze my ass into a womens (Guess) 25
 
11:37 PM
I will say... jeans with a bit of spandex/elastic are the best
 
mens is a little different. there about a 3 size disparity between.
a womens 27 is a mans 30
but THAT was like 7 years ago
 
womens sized have no base in reason or science. They differ entirely on manufacturer
 
@Codeman so do mens.
but in general there is about a 3 size difference
 
You can usually measure them
Or find a size chart
Stuff like dress sizes is completely arbitrary though
 
@Meredith if you have the opportunity to try on mens jeans. up three sizes from your own. good chance it will fit nice.
well... baggy crotch and a tighter butt
 
11:39 PM
They're probably too long
 
but the waist
 
MyFitnessPal says that I'm on track to lose 2lbs a week. Pumped!
So, I should be at my current target weight in 25ish weeks, as long as I stay strict.
 
@ndugger if you are putting on muscle remember it weights more than fat
so look less at the scale, more at the mirror
 
Yeah, that's true.
 
Also you'll lose muscle when you lose weight
But most of it will be leg muscle
So don't worry about it
 
11:41 PM
Well, my PT is making me do a leg day, so we'll see, lol
 
Every day is leg day when you're fat
 
when I was working with the trainer I lost 1.5% body fat / week on average over 7 weeks.
4 days a week, 45 minutes a session. non stop
 
HAMMERTIME!
 
:D
 
lol, true, every day is indeed leg day
 
11:42 PM
then he got fired. I think he was trying to diddle one of his female clients.
.. shame ( he was potentially a dog ). he was a good trainer (to me)
 
I've decided that I'm gonna run on the treadmill every day from now on after work, and then do regular weight training in the mornings, tuesday and thursday until I feel like going up to 3 days a week
 
I once lost 14lbs in a week.
 
did you ever find it?
 
With interest.
 
I basically was doing a quick 15 cardio warmup before the session, then 45 minutes of supersets with about 2 minutes between
heavy weights the entire way (if you can lift it more than six times, you need more weight)
 
11:44 PM
@ndugger Did your trainer approve that?
 
@Meredith no... I suppose I should ask him
 
we were specifically trying to put on muscle tho.
 
@Meredith I'm still gonna do it until I see him next, though. I see him again on tuesday. I wasn't able to book anything else the rest of this week.
 
Hope you don't blow out your knee
 
I dunno, I've heard a couple of people to not run so much with my weight, but fuck that. I actually enjoy running, and I want the fat to go fuck itsself, so fuck it.
 
11:47 PM
Yeah but like
The 2 most dangerous things for your knee are being fat and running
 
Cycling and swimming to lose weight and gain muscle. And won't fuck up your joints.
 
Plus there's no such thing as proper form when you're overweight
 
Fuck my knees
Nah, I understand the potential for issues
 
I was down to 200lb when I was biking 300mi/week, lol
it also fucked up my knees
 
but I really enjoy running, and the benefits are worth it
 
11:49 PM
What pace do you run at?
On average
Or just how many miles you do a week
 
Well, I start at 3mph to warm up, just walking
then I go to 4
then to 5
then to 6 for as long as my lungs can take it
then down to 4
then I fluxuate 4, 5, 6, 4, 5, 6, etc
My lungs get strained pretty quickly
 
wonderful, my current bottleneck is math.
 
are you breathing properly?
 
@Codeman It did? I only did 50mi/week, but it was high intensity. Down to 150lbs and RHR of 37bpm.
 
Maybe
 
11:51 PM
@FizzyTea 300mi/week is 6 times what 50mi/week is.
 
I mean, today was the first time I ran in many months
so I went from 0 to 2 miles
so I think I'm doing alright
 
!!^5
 
and yeah, my RHR was around 40 at that point
 
@rlemon That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: 3, i, d, y, !, ^, ^5, π, ?
@rlemon ⁵
 
I did ride over 200 miles in one day :)
 
11:52 PM
@Codeman Yeah. I'd cycle 5mi to work. But I could do it in under 12 mins.
@Codeman That's damn good.
 
@Codeman wait what?
i didn't know that's even possible
 
@KendallFrey what what?
 
without some crazy disease
 
yeah, I did the Seattle to Portland one day bike ride
averaged 23.3mph too :)
 
@KendallFrey lower for pros.
@Codeman impressive!
 
11:54 PM
now I'm fat and old :D
well... 225
 
Maxing out your HR can be fun too.
 
It's also fun to run across busy streets
 

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