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3:03 PM
Lorum ipsum, dolor sit amet.
 
That's disgusting. Flagged.
 
prude
 
@Shmiddty speaking of, you asked about snatchpat and then never added me :(
 
What if let and const were given to us by TC39 just so we'd have plenty to continue bikeshed about? #teamRedShed
:sigh:
 
because TC39 definitely were the first ones to come up with block scoping and const
 
3:10 PM
@rlemon what's the joke?
what is bikeshed?
another joke.. over my head
 
@bitten bikeshedding man
when you give a pointless argument to the room so everyone has a say
like, what colour should be paint the bikeshed
 
thankfully i've never come across that term
 
to avoid talking about where all the money has gone
or why the website is down
 
stackoverflow.com/questions/1638919/… since we deleted this question, are they going to lose all that rep?
 
@SterlingArcher no, most of it is too old
 
3:12 PM
lol he's going to be under 10k rep that's kinda shitty but funny
 
I'll try to remember how it was explained to me: you have a meeting with all of the teams, and you ask about security and the security guys speak, then you ask about design and the designers speak, then you ask about UX and the analysts speak, but no one is interacting with other teams. so you ask at the end what colour to paint the bikeshed out back and everyone has a say
 
lol
well TIL
 
@bitten ^^
 
I forgot that it ages out
 
ages out?
 
3:12 PM
after 6 months or a year, rep is permanent
 
I think it's less that that
 
@rlemon I always understood it as sleight of hand to avoid the real issue.
 
@Zirak wat
 
or not always sleight of hand, sometimes just a distraction because nobody wants to address the real issue
it's a simple problem that doesn't matter but everybody focuses on, ignoring the parts that matter
 
3:13 PM
> Wikitionary says it was coined based on Parkinson's law of triviality
> What if let and const were given to us by TC39 just so we'd have plenty to continue -to- bikeshed about? #teamRedShed
i think he was missing a word too, that also threw me
 
> Reputation changes from bounties, votes (both up and down), and acceptances on deleted posts (including answers to a deleted question) are nullified. (Exception: Reputation earned for posts with a score of three or higher, and where the post has been visible on the site for at least 60 days, is retained).
MUCH less than 6mo
I just don't understand what people have against let/const? what is wrong with immutability? it theoretically will help the compiler to be faster
and block scope is the shit
var is lame
 
if const is so good, why does jQuery use $ instead?
 
if errors are so good, why goes jQuery swallow them?
ahh, that also explains the bloat
 
I let everything, and I don't care.
 
I const till I can't
 
3:18 PM
@rlemon I actually am in that photo! (probably)
 
> Luggage let everything and I don't care, (repeat), cause the linter's gone away.
 
@phenomnomnominal \o/
 
But right now I'm in Flo Rida.
 
@phenomnomnominal how does it feel to be in a photo that likely aroused @KendallFrey
 
@rlemon not the first time, won't be the last.
 
3:19 PM
heh
 
I hope we lose Florida in the upcoming Election Wars 2016.
 
Make Florida Great For Once
 
Florida Man for President
 
Jeb?
 
or we take everybody who has ever made the news as "Florida *" and make them joint president.
 
3:21 PM
Flo Rida for President
 
Suddenly we've started a war by throwing crocodiles into China and taken all the meth from the EU and crashed the presidental limo into a river while chasing our ex.
 
I saw both Donald and Hillary this week!
 
and we'll start keeping the nuclear launch codes in the oven, with our guns and ammo
 
@phenomnomnominal my condolences
 
3:22 PM
hi dad!
 
@tereško thank you. Both quite bizarre experiences.
But I figure it's somewhat historical
 
@Neoares being popular's overrated...or so i've heard
 
I just hope Trump doesn't win and end up as Hitler and I don't forever have the guilt of not having done something.
 
@phenomnomnominal you and half of the US
 
you've done something worth feeling guilty about, start now
@Luggage hey, those white nationalists (and the 15% of the population they make up) have never been more engaged
 
3:23 PM
@phenomnomnominal "doesn't win" or "doesn't turn out as Hitler"
 
@ssube I don't snapchat
 
@ssube ... to thier cousins
 
I wonder what will happen to his ego if he loses
 
oooh burn
 
He could become a recluse
 
3:24 PM
I wish
 
or succeed from the US
 
@phenomnomnominal he can't comprehend that happening, so it will be fun
 
if he loses it's everyone elses fault and the system is corrupt
his ego isn't affected
 
he's going to throw a fit, probably, but it won't do much
 
I mean, the system is corrupt.
 
3:25 PM
Man, I'm more worried about what his followers will do.
 
well, currently he's trying to start a revolution based on a rigged vote, so that's a clue.
 
Doesn't mean it's an undemocratic vote
 
'cause holy shit, are there a bunch of crazies in that shit pile.
I mean, look at @Loktar!
 
@Trasiva < 40% of the people voting for him are voting for him and < 60% of those are the gun waving white nationalist sovereign citizen type nutters, which is a small group
and they've never actually committed to doing something and followed through, so I'm not too worried
 
@phenomnomnominal dunno. It's kinda hard to go against CNN, CBS, NBC .. etc
if he looses, he tried his best
 
3:26 PM
Hillary will win. Then she'll fuck everything up
 
Oh, this election is just a horrible nightmare.
We need a reset button.
 
I was talking about this with a guy yesterday
 
lots of room up north. bring money
 
I'm pretty sure we'll be getting moderate candidates next round, after Hillary wins and does mostly nothing.
that's what I'm banking on, otherwise, Canada
 
It's such a weird concept to me for everyone to be voting so strongly for a person.
 
3:27 PM
Of my friends that are voting trump, 1 is half conspiricy theorist already, 1 is just hard-line republican and will never vote for a democrat no matter what, and one is a very reasonable-sounding engineer dealing with nuclear warheads
 
@ssube well, you had Bernie
look what happened there
 
@rlemon are you saying I can stay with you? I've got $50 that's enough for forever, right?
 
@rlemon I'd be okay with moving in Canada.
 
@rlemon who had no follow-through plan?
 
Like in NZ, you vote for a party, with a set of policies. They just so happen to have a leader, but that could change over the term.
 
3:27 PM
@Shmiddty gas is $1.30/L right now.
we're technically in a recession
 
I never considered Bernie a serious candidate, mostly because he was too idealistic.
 
that's fine, i don't drive
 
@Shmiddty well .. this might you give an interesting perspective:
 
@ssube well, we disagree there.
he came in as a nobody way too late in the game to have a real chance
 
@rlemon Damn that's cheap
 
3:28 PM
@phenomnomnominal it is supposed to go down in the winter!
 
@rlemon don't get me wrong, I was totally on board with most of his policies, I just thought he was being a fool about it and sabotaged himself (as much as the DNC did)
the guy was way too into his college freshman ideals to actually implement any of them when he got there
 
It's like $1.90/L in NZ
 
I don't care if Hillary used yahoo email with a password of "password". She's not* threatening to jail opponents, put restriction on media, mass deportation/concentration, etc.
 
@ssube I don't think he was being a fool about it. he recognised change needed to happen -- he wanted to expedite that change. sure most of it probably wouldn't have happened like he wanted, but it would have gotten the ball rolling in an otherwise stagnant environment (imo)
 
@Luggage Trump was literally inciting violence again the media in Orlando the other day
 
3:30 PM
That's my point.
It's shitty I have to defend her, since she's wretched, but.. I do.
 
@phenomnomnominal name a group he hasn't explicitly incited violence against
 
@ssube because what you promise in the election cycle historically actually gets done?
 
@ssube Backstreet Boys
 
@tereško She'll still win
 
@phenomnomnominal technically correct
 
3:31 PM
That was one of the 5 songs they were blasting on loop
 
@Shmiddty which scares me
 
@rlemon historically... it's been a while since I checked, but it's usually 1/3-1/2 of what they promise, I think?
there are definitely charts that keep track, like you guys do for Treauduaueuaueauea
 
@SterlingArcher You disgusting, disgusting man
 
@ssube and I don't think his plans were all that bad. the free college is a stretch, but promising that then moving closer too it is still progress.
you need to get that ball rolling somewhere
 
@Zirak I mean, yeah
 
3:32 PM
what I'm really interested in is the potential problems for congress that Trump has been causing recently
 
@Shmiddty Trump as president would be a lame duck (blocked by both democrats and republicans). Clinton will actually be able to push policies.
 
At least Sanders was a sane candidate
 
@tereško at his best he will. at his worst, he can push his power.
 
@ssube I definitely see a Democrat majority for congress regardless of the election.
 
Clinton will also be able to push 2 bullets in the back of my head
 
3:33 PM
I'm probably going to write-in Sanders
 
@SterlingArcher damned if you do, damned if you don't
 
@Luggage what can Clinton do at her worst?
 
@Trasiva it's going to be insanely close in the house
 
it scares you that you'll get a fairly normal corrupt politician instead of a authoritarian demagogue which says scary things about free speech?
 
if hillary gets elected, I foresee 4 more years of the same shit you guys have to deal with today
 
3:33 PM
@ssube Yea, but I think we'll see a it as a majority.
 
no progress
 
I can make up words too
 
but I also am not a trump fan.
 
@rlemon that's what I'm hoping for
 
@SterlingArcher cool
 
3:34 PM
maintain the status quo until we get some competent people
 
I'll take four years of zero progress rather than four years of Hillary/Trump ideas.
 
@ssube but the status quo right now isn't great
 
The current status quo has cost my family its insurance, and me several thousand dollars on shit healthcare
 
no, but it's better than the pointy white hats running things
 
I'm good on 4 more years of that
 
3:35 PM
the status quo hasn't been lighting folks on fire and bombing buildings recently, so there's that
 
it kinda has
 
this is the first election I've watched where I am not rooting for either side.
it's confusing
 
see latest BLM protests
 
@tereško no, we've only been bombing folks and lighting buildings, keep it straight
 
Democrats are firebombing republican offices
 
3:36 PM
....BLM isn't due to political leadership.
 
You're all crazy shitheads
 
@Trasiva granted
 
It's due to shitty people using public outrage as an excuse to openly be assholes.
The thing is, police behavior hasn't really changed in the last 20 years. The only difference is now every asshole with a cell phone thinks they're a fucking news journalist and public activist.
 
Look at the BLM baltimore riots. It was just an excuse to go nuts, steal cars, set fires and rob people
 
it's a shame our only "burn it down" candidate didn't know what Aleppo was
@SterlingArcher you mean the city that's been on the brink of open war between the cops and citizens, until the cops started randomly killing people?
 
3:38 PM
@SterlingArcher what did I do to people?
 
It's like code. A complete rewrite is almost always a mistake. But incremental improvement can happen if you stick with a strategy.
 
@SterlingArcher The military locked down Ft. Meade. People were told to stay on base and stay away from that shit.
 
Instead of going 8 years left, 8 years right. You just end up going nowhere.
 
I'm amazed baltimore didn't turn into a full on warzone, since most of the gangs there have heavy weapons. They chose not to use them because it wasn't the time.
 
@ssube the last 3 protests have actually been about police shooting criminals. I think the last one actually was killed in open shootout.
 
3:39 PM
It's going to escalate, people are going to be killed on racial motives like the dallas shootings, and shits gonna hit the fan
 
What's the command to format code again?
 
baltimore gangs have 'heavy weapons'? Odd, I don't hear any machine guns or mortars..
 
ctrl + k
 
@tereško most of those haven't gotten protests
 
@BlunderCode ctrl + q
:D
 
3:39 PM
Cops can't kill anybody even if they're being shot at without it being a protest
 
@Luggage they absolutely have LMGs and rockets, it's not uncommon.
the weapon buyback programs regularly get shit like that
 
rockets?
 
@rlemon @tereško who to trust....
 
jetpacks
 
and... that's a good thing...
 
3:40 PM
not him
he's trolling you
 
I have never heard of a rocket being used in Baltimore
 
@rlemon thats exactly what a troll would say!
 
@Luggage that's my point: they have those weapons, they didn't use them because it was a protest about people being killed for no reason, not an excuse to start a war.
 
@BlunderCode read the FAQ then
 
3:41 PM
@Luggage THey typically try to avoid using those sorts of things brings a metric shit ton of heat.
 
if they were just trying to start a fight, they wouldn't have waited for the cops, they would have just blown things up
this was a real protest in response to state terrorism
 
so two empty tubes show up in LA and you say that Baltimore is full of rockets? :)
 
not gonna lie, if I ever owned a rocket launcher the temptation to just shoot it at some trees would be too much and I'd probably kill myself.
 
@Luggage no, I'm saying they have big guns they chose not to use
 
well, they have at least one .50 that they stole from me..
 
3:42 PM
people in baltimore shoot at each other for far smaller reasons on a daily basis
 
the restraint they showed in those protests was amazing
 
*Sigh* That question I asked for deletevotes on was undeleted and locked by a mod.
 
That's because they know if they use them, they'll get killed. These riots are a way to loot and go nuts without risk of being shot
 
Yay, preserve all the crap!
 
3:43 PM
Restraint? I watched a man on the news hijack a car and set it on fire live
 
Lame
 
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@BlunderCode Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
didnt format
 
@SterlingArcher wait, not wanting to get shot? That's crazy
 
@SterlingArcher That was Obama.
 
3:44 PM
clearly they want shot, they live in "those neighborhoods"
 
stateCheck(): Boolean {
        if(state !== 'Utah' || 'UT' || 'Idaho' || 'ID' || 'etc' || 'etc') {
            return false;
        }
        return true;
    }
 
You can't deny that reverse racism is happening
 
Most optimal way to write that function?
 
Kill white people, white people get out of our protest, etc
 
const STATES = [...];
function blah (state) {
    return STATES.includes(state);
}
 
3:44 PM
@SterlingArcher I can.
 
lol
 
I'm seeing it everywhere
 
@ssube not sure about Baltimore (their stats page is not loading), but Chicago is basically a warzone: heyjackass.com/category/2016-stats
 
@SterlingArcher I thought you were serious until that. That was a pretty good run.
tell people you're trolling first when it's politics
 
Don't be a dick lol
 
3:46 PM
were you actually saying reverse racism is a thing?
 
@SterlingArcher there is no "reverse racism". It is just "racism". Just because it's against whites by blacks does not make it "reverse"
 
@phenomnomnominal pfft, Set that up
 
Set aren't very optimised yet :P
 
So's your mom
 
3:47 PM
@tereško sure, that. Whatever the proper term is, there's blatant racism against white people going on as well.
 
sets are just fine
 
sure, but it's still way worse on the other side..
 
Just as well as there is still racism to black people.
 
Ever think that maybe white people deserve it?
 
3:47 PM
@SterlingArcher There's a word for that.
It's called "Racism".
 
@BlunderCode indexOf of an array in a method
 
@phenomnomnominal on account of all the killings?
 
@user2131283 Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
@phenomnomnominal why?
 
@phenomnomnominal totes, they didn't have to use so much bleach at childbirth
 
3:48 PM
@SterlingArcher there is racism all which ways, but like religious wars, one side tends to do most of the killing and is generally considered in the wrong.
 
So black on black crime is the culprit, then?
 
I'm not justifying the actions, and I would love to think that people could try to reset things in order to move on. But the last few thousand years of white history don't look so good. I can see why other races would want retribution. Not saying I agree. But I understand.
 
I try to treat race as it should be treated. Ignore it. #BlackLivesMatter isn't doing anything to get rid of racism.
 
this isn't much different from when the Christians tried to invade the Middle East for the lulz
 
Guys, it's simple. Racism is bad. No ifs, buts, etc.
 
3:50 PM
It's not white history. It's a specific set of people making bad decisions, not representing an entire race
 
except now it's white folks instead of Christians and we aren't even pretending to have a good reason
 
May I suggest this topic is dropped? It's going down the gutter...
 
Just because a cop killed an innocent man doesn't mean I'm horrible because I'm the same color as him
 
@SterlingArcher Tell that to the whites
 
@SterlingArcher agreed
 
3:51 PM
@KendallFrey no, but they are milking it for everything its worth
 
but you haven't been oppressed for hundreds of years.
Symbolism is a powerful thing
 
neither have anyone else who is alive today
 
@phenomnomnominal Neither have you.
 
@SterlingArcher blaming everybody based on color would be just as bad. It's on you (And the rest of us) for not preventing the killings in the first place.
 
and the colour of your skin is a symbol of oppression
 
3:51 PM
That's just bullshit.
 
I know I haven't. I'm not claiming to have any answers. Just saying I understand it.
 
letting things get to the point where the police are running around shooting at folks without provocation
 
@phenomnomnominal natives handle it fine.... O wait
 
@phenomnomnominal lol
 
What percent of these protests involve innocent men?
 
3:52 PM
as citizens of the US, it's our fault for letting the country get so fucked, like when you leave leftovers in the fridge for 3 months
@SterlingArcher upwards of 2/3
here in MN, 1 of the 2 was completely (on video) innocent
 
Just so everyone here knows I'm wearing a Team Trump shirt right now so my opinon is more valid than yours
 
@SterlingArcher I think one - the case when cop killed a 12 year old in a park.
 
Many people agree on that. I've seen videos of white people being oppressed trying to help the movement
 
We all have the responsibility to overcome our subconscious (or not) biases.
 
I'm nice to everybody, idgaf.
 
3:53 PM
@phenomnomnominal and make sure everybody can live without getting shot.
 
Racism still exists but is getting better. Cops can be real twitchy and dangerous, both legit and not. Everyone has a camera is we are rightly outraged about needless killing, some of which might be race-related, but some groups are turning BLM into white/vs black way more than it is. That's an undeniable factor, but not the only thing going on.
 
biases which are racist in the first place.
Don't be biased
Then you can't be racist
Problem solved.
 
@Luggage it should be white+black+etc vs cops who shoot people
 
@phenomnomnominal do you have a solution to protect against thetans subconscious bias ?
 
but it got caught up in the tumblr effect and is now a platform for everybody who wants to bitch and moan
 
3:54 PM
@tereško auditing
 
@tereško yeah, I just go and get audited
but in actuality, the best things is to just talk about them.
 
no, thanks
I ton believe in this white-guilt cult
 
And you can't forget that it's actually a privilege to be educated enough to understand that people are biased?
 
I have nothing to be guilty about, and I refuse to feel guilty for something I didn't do.
2
 
Don't be guilty then
Just don't be an asshole
 
3:56 PM
As a citizen of the Netherlands, I am not responsible for our history with slavery. I don't feel guilty about it, and I sure as hell am not going to apologize for it.
 
You don't have a reason to be guilty. I agree. It sounded like you were saying that you were being discriminated against, earlier, though.
 
@SterlingArcher Just wait until your boss asks why you didn't do any work this week.
 
I'm not, the point is, it's being pushed on me. I'm being told it's my fault, like I lived back in the civil war times.
 
@Cerbrus You don't have to be guilty for what happened to make sure it doesn't happen again.
 
@KendallFrey lmao
 
3:56 PM
@Cerbrus it's always funny for me as a Latvian to be told that I am privileged.
 
As people alive today, it's on us to make sure this stops and doesn't happen anymore, not to fix the past.
 
.. sorry, typos
 
Whats the most optimal way to loop through an object like this gist.github.com/mshafrir/2646763 and compare it to a string to see if the strings in there?
 
@ssube completely agree with that one
 
@ssube It's not on me as a white person to fix racism as a whole.
 
3:57 PM
Unfortunately people are too stupid to fix it and just end up finger pointing
 
@ssube what is "this"
 
@Cerbrus it's on you as a person to make sure your fellow people aren't being killed in the streets.
 
@SterlingArcher Be thankful that you're intelligent
 
@ssube: That's simple
 
3:58 PM
regardless of the reason or country or era, people getting shot is bad for all of us
 
I don't live in the US
 
Time to get my captain america shield and patrol the hood
 
And vote people in who want to increase funding in education
 
@luggage thank you
 
The people that are getting shot in the Netherlands are, 9 out of 10, drugs dealers.
Frankly, I'm fine with that.
 
3:58 PM
it's completely possible that things aren't as bad in your country
 
what? don't shoot the dealers..
 
but ours is pretty fucked
 
where shall we buy our drugs?
 
and countries aren't something you can just bail on, you have to make them better
and better, here, probably starts with less shootings
 
@ssube what country?
 
3:59 PM
Not my country, not my problem.
 
drugs should be free, mmkay?
 
@Shmiddty communist
 
USA is everyone's problem.
 
the one thing we can all get behind is making sure the reds don't come back from the moon
 

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