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5:00 PM
adam, look at the free book ahmad posted
 
But I don't wanna read it yet lol what is it?
 
5:14 PM
there was an answer on Programmers.SE saying that O'Reilly books are mostly trash
 
I've had some good ones
 
I'm just not understanding what RxJava is used for and google doesn't help
 
it's basically port of Reactive extensions for .NET
use cases are the same
 
Okay.
 
there is a concept of Observable — that's a lazy sequence which "takes initiative" — it "decides" when next elements (if any) are popped out
and in the end an observer subscribes to it and listens
and there are a lot of useful functions that transform Observables one into another in useful ways
or do something else with them
that's RxJava
another way to look at it — it's a sequence where each element has a corresponding time (the time when it was produced), the time is of course monotonically increasing
 
5:20 PM
Sounds complicated. But I just haven't had a need for it yet so I don't know.
 
and functions' results depend on that time, too
it's not really complicated, I am just not good at explaining things
and also I tend to think that RxJava is useful almost anywhere — like jQuery in the web frontend world, for example
because it's kind of an extension of sequence operations to the sequences which are lazy and time dependent
most languages just do not have them right out of the box
 
Neat.
 
@MechEthan Welcome. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
 
so that interview went not-so-great
 
I have read and understood the rules.
 
5:27 PM
Thank you!
 
btw I did hard-way upgrade to new os x
 
holy crap he did it without anyone asking
 
He's a good lad
 
and after that I went and left 5 bugs in apple bugtracker
they should do their job
 
Thanks :D sorry I didn't respond to your earlier invite last week.
 
5:28 PM
Did I invite you somewhere?
 
he prolly means you gave him access before but he left and it got dropped
 
i requested to join a week ago, but got distracted and missed the response window I guess
 
Got you
 
I am psychic! ... I will sell lottery predictions for $100 a pop
 
:D
 
5:30 PM
There's not specific time limit. We just usually remove people if we don't hear from them in a little while. That's just (at least for me) if you decide to start talking after I'm not around and be a help vampire or some other troll, I won't know
 
understood :)
 
I will predict any kind of lottery that someone wants to pay me for.
 
but how can I be sure?…
 
wtf is a diversity visa?
 
5:31 PM
Then everyone will yell at me while I'm away and make me feel bad. And probably take away my powers. And make me cry
 
it's basically a permanent residence permit that USA gives to people all over the world at random
 
you can't, until you've already paid me... that's the beauty of the business model.
wtf
is that real?
 
yep
and that's a real wtf
 
god damn
that is fucking gross
 
it's open from Octobet 1 till some day in November
yep
 
5:33 PM
if they win that lottery do they still have to come and take the bullshit history test thing?
 
I don't know, but there are some preconditions to be met
one must have education or work experience
and not have any general problems with getting a visa…
 
I feel so bad for people that have to take that test
 
and there is also non-metric system
life is pain, isn't it?
 
Foamy, that is only for citizenship
 
whatever it's for, it's fucking disgraceful
 
5:35 PM
I feel bad for people that have to learn English as a second language even. So many one-off rules.
 
heh, the hole thing is one off rules
 
I have to.
But it doesn't seem like the hardest language in the world, at least
I guess most other languages are harder as a second language
 
i'm sure there's worse, but, it could be better!
yeah
you have to take that test, Sarge?
 
Java is easier, for sure
which test?
 
@SargeBorsch "I have to."
 
5:37 PM
I didn't win that lottery (yet)
I have to learn English :D
 
oh
you seem to know it well
 
really?
 
i wouldn't have guessed it was your second language, at all
or 3rd or whatever :)
 
I usually notice some stupid errors when I look at a text I wrote months ago
 
native speakers do that, too! :P
 
5:38 PM
…really?? how is that possible?
 
hahaha
 
I never do mistakes in my native language.
 
m-me either... coughs
 
Because a lot of Americans are stupid about the language
and lazy
 
My native is english and I make mistakes with it all the time
 
5:39 PM
…but I know people who do make them… maybe it's an individual thing
 
^^ See what I mean
 
I just don't adhere to a strict set of rules. If I get my idea across I count it as a win and move on, even if it was technically incorrect somehow.
 
That was a rhetorical question. Just a jab at Foamy
 
by the way, if you see any mistakes in my writing and do not mind spending a few minutes, I'd be happy if you let me know.
 
5:40 PM
I would love to let you know!
 
sure thing
 
@FoamyGuy true, but some mistakes can really bend meaning beyond recognition
 
very true
and yes. I can assure you that cM would love to let you know.
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:P
 
@SargeBorsch "I never do mistakes in my native language." -- Technically this is correct, but a native speaker would typically word it as "I never make mistakes in my native language." Don't ask me why, I have no idea! :D
 
5:46 PM
 
I can probably guess why your version is more correct
 
I know the second page looks really empty
 
a mistake is a product of an action
 
But I don't really know what to put there
 
5:46 PM
ah, good point Sarge :)
 
…but not an action in itself
similar to "make a dinner" for example. but, for example, backflip is an action, so it's correct to say "do a backflip"
is it something reasonable?
 
Yep, your explanation makes sense!
@RaghavSood is this resume to apply to a specific job, or to post on the internet for all to see?
 
aww shit, Raghav works for Skynet. We are fucked.
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@MechEthan General resume
I only started at Skynet a couple months ago :D
 
Most people call "THINGS I HAVE DONE AND WORKED WITH" technologies/experience/skills :P
 
5:52 PM
That looks really good Raghav.
 
But I like your header
 
I like it especially used with the tag line under your name.
 
Raghav, a couple minor things:
- You can put Education at the bottom -- nobody cares about it other than knowing you have it.
- Put a bullet point in front of each Project, they don't read well.
- If you're going to have two pages, you may as well put some more whitespace above each heading.
 
Ahhh yes! I couldn't for the life of me remember that heading :P
 
if you are worried about space on the second page you could move either projects, or awards/speaking to page 2 and add some whitespace between sections on page 1
 
5:54 PM
And the "WHO AM I" part usually goes at the beginning to get there interest in reading the rest
 
For applying to a specific job, you should chop out the entire "THINGS I HAVE DONE AND WORKED WITH" section and include more details about relevant projects for that job.
 
Oh god how do you reorder things in InDesign
 
Thats true. If you are applying for something specific I would also try really hard to cap it at 1 page if at all possible.
 
btw, I have read that it is a good practice to have a CV just on one page
 
+1 to Foamy's comment
 
5:56 PM
btw, why is it split in pages in the first place?
 
But as a general resume that you just make public somehwere that others can find it I don't see a big deal with it being 2
 
The way I've currently got it, I can remove the second page without losing too much important content
 
aren't we in an Internet epoch where no one uses paper for carrying information?
 
I couldn't fit everything on one page?
 
especially for you because you've got tons of very legit qualifications.
 
5:56 PM
There's an online version too raghavsood.com/resume
Which is missing some of the information and links and stuff
 
dividing content into pages for screen reading is just an annoyance
 
I would totally go for an infinite scrolling PDF if I could
 
maybe PDF can have a "page" with infinite height?
or just big enough
 
I don't think so
 
I don't think you can
 
5:57 PM
no, that must be A4
 
PDF is literally a file format that is meant to be printed out
 
I could do A3, but that would print weird
 
but… there are non-standard paper sizes?
and PDF cannnot use them?
 
you can probably set it to any reasonably popular page sizes.
especially if you pay the adobe PDF maker
but I'd bet on PDF not supporting the idea of infinate height.
 
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A: PDF - Aspect Ratio and Sizing

KenSAs mkl correctly says, there is no standard size for a PDF page, it can be anything from 1 point (1/72 inch) square upwards and can be any aspect ratio. It is common for pages to be Letter or A4 but this is by no mean guaranteed and even in the common sizes the pages may be landscape or portrait....

see, it can be of arbitrary aspect ratio and size
so you can simply set height to arbitrary value and then everything is on one page :)
but printing that would be bad idea
but who does print things in year 2015?
 
6:01 PM
you can not imagine how many people
 
but why?
it's wasteful and paper has zero advantages
 
because secretary has to do something
 
it's even not searchable
 
paper does have it's advantages
 
especially in the toilet
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6:02 PM
in IT industry, when electricity is suddenly cut off, the inability to read someone's resume is the least of all problems
 
My gf writes articles for a blog and she prints them out so that she can read over it without staring at the screen and make editing marks on it.
 
that's entirely possible to do on a computer, or if the backlit display is annoying, there are devices with e-ink displays
and marks on them are reversible, you won't need to scratch paper with an eraser
 
I like to have my own printed copy of my resume when I go talk to someone. That way I can follow along if they ask questions
 
possible: yes.... as easy to do and as quick: no
 
@developer denied for low A:Q ratio and only using chat for support
 
6:04 PM
Trust me. I am a screen guy like you. I'm just saying paper definitely has more than zero advantages.
 
raghav: "Developed a basic OS in x86 ASM at the age of 13"
 
@developer still no. Don't request again without giving back to the community more
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@netpork Literally basic. Never even got the mouse to work
 
kudos
 
6:07 PM
It was like one of those ancient keyboard only 80 col terminals with a simple RGB GUI
 
even writing some code in x86 ASM… you are a cool guy
 
Well, arm is nicer
I did a bunch of arm asm last year
It was fun, by asm standards
 
posted on October 07, 2015 by Reto Meier

Posted by Dan McGrath, Product Manager, Drive SDK & Partnerships Chances are, you’re developing an app that creates or manages data. And chances are, your users really care about that content — be it photos and documents, or calorie counts and exercise stats. Whatever it is, you probably don’t want it stuck on a single device — especially since people are replacing their phones and tablets

 
=x I am happier pretending that nothing lower level than Java and python even exists.
 
^
sometimes also C
 
6:09 PM
C is bearable if it is basic stuff
 
but I am pretty sure that it could be a cool thing to know
 
I can do arduino which is close to C, and Teensy will let you program it in C.
 
C is actually not that scary, if everyone obeys the rules and writes safe code
 
I have done some assembly for Motorola 680x0. A lot easier than x86.
 
but there are lots of possibilities for accidentally writing unsafe code and a novice will easily trip on explosives
 
6:20 PM
@JMRboosties look familiar? https://github.com/kaedea/Android-Cloud-TagView-Plus
:p
 
thats mine exactly
lol
 
Yours probably scrolls better if you built is as a list or recyclerview though
 
https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/nextversion/
next Idea features are awesome
 
I'm taking a shot in the dark but does anyone know of this website that randomly generates APIs that you should use like "build an app about ___ for ___ using these APIs:"
 
6:35 PM
hmmm… why?
 
is 15 stable yet? It had some serious issues the last time I tried it
 
Because my friend asked me and I remember using it but I can't find it.
 
nope, it's only a preview
 
duplicate detection, nice
"Excluding from Import and Completion on Project Level"
So maybe I can finally get the auto-import to work with the R file, since I should be able to exclude the alternatives
 
Hey guys, what's up!
fun fact: I had 14 windows and 389 tabs open when I started firefox.
And I opened another window (with 2 tabs) since then
 
6:45 PM
firefox is quite sturdy when there's enough RAM
 
Yeah chrome used to work better but last time I checked on this laptop firefox was better
old chrome still works better on old laptop. maybe I should update my stuff... or maybe not
 
browsers should be always updated asap (to stable versions)
 
The starred messages look pretty weird reading them from top to bottom...
Yeah I guess you're right :)
 
because they tend to have vulnerabilities which get fixed eventually
and a browser must be 100% safe, because it does the dirtiest of jobs
 
> @developer still no. Don't request again without giving back to the community more

> especially in the toilet

> and yes. I can assure you that cM would love to let you know
 
6:50 PM
they look good together
 
Yeah, had a wtf moment and checked if the timestamps follow up :D
Yeah, you're right about the browser. I'm stupid sometimes :)
My old laptop is freaking weird (has some overheating issues and stuff) and don't like changing much if it works...
It turns off when watching youtube
It's a hardware issue in my graphics card I think
Oh well, I can live with it, not gonna look at that. Alraedy spent a lot of time on it when it was still relevant
 
btw, does anyone have Adobe™ Flash™ still installed&activated? :)
(it's built into Chrome, so in Chrome is must be explicitly deactivated)
 
I do
Is it bad?
 
it depends on what do you call bad
but it's risky
and, since wide HTML5 video adoption, the need for flash is decreasing
 
Yeah that's true
 
6:56 PM
I noticed that I'm pretty happy without Flash since I do not view videos on low-tech porn sites, and I don't mind if I miss some ad banners while visiting some regular websites :D
there are of course a few odd places which require Flash
if you do not depend of them, consider yourself lucky :)
 
Those will disappear sooner or later =p
 
if it weren't for ufc.tv I would be able to ditch flash completely
 
yes, they will
also I am sometimes noticing how even some low-tech sites adopt HTTPS
 
Eew, android studio 1.2 looks so weird. Everything is really small (I'm on my work laptop that I use as personal laptop, not the other development laptop)
 
maybe something strange is happening in the world, if more people starts caring about security, because usually they do not give a f--k…
 
6:59 PM
Security is like the word of the year at my employer
It's about time they started caring
Well, I only recently learn about security as well
 
there's always much more to learn
and there are lots of scary stuff everywhere…
 
I'm even in the security team :D
 
we need to learn how to measure risks adequately
 
Just working on app stuff though lol
yup
 
otherwise we will go mad while trying to harden UEFI chips for example (I am sure I used a wrong name, I'm not an expert in hardware)
 
7:02 PM
A lot of things do get exagerated though, which is also not good
 
but I heard about some really scary stuff about firmware overwriting from OS
it's like really scary
and no way to protect yourself
because consumer devices are shit
 
what scary stuff?
Yeah, they are and still we want them :(
 
the original writing is in Russian… I may try to find something though
 
Okay the site was apirandomizer.com and it's no longer hosted
 
@AnkitSinha write access to this room requires a min 100 rep on SO
 
7:07 PM
Anyone knows a good IDE in the browser with git support? a quick google search gives me codeAnywhere and Nitrous
 
so this is the original writing in russian (the first part, it has links to next parts), but translating it is a lot of work. the key points is that the mechanisms for protecting "firmware" from malicious use are… lacking
 
Hi Adam and cM!
 
o/
 
by "firmware" I mean anything that's stored somewhere except dick drives and other usual storage devices
 
Thanks Sarge! I don't think I'll learn much from the russian version haha. Maybe a google translate will give me a clue :p
 
7:08 PM
I don't think so
maybe ping me again later if you are really interested and maybe I'll try to compile some key parts into english text
google translate often fails hardly on russian <-> english
 
Ah I haven't tried.
Yeah I'm interested! But right now I'm trying to put my crappy app on bitbucket and find a way to access it through a browser :D
I started making a launcher some time ago. It's just a tutorial I followed with a few additions though.
There's very little information about how to make launchers.
But I should be able to get something with what I know now.
I read something earlier about someone else making a launcher and got me inspired again. I doubt I will work a lot on it though. Will make it open source once it has a decent foundation to build on
 
I guess, launchers are the kind of apps that got broken the most across Android version updates?
 
They are?
 
I don't know
just asking; forget it :D
 
I just don't like the current launcher patterns. They're all the same really
And one thing in particular that annoyed me in the launchers I tried is
 
7:16 PM
I noticed today, Android source code has, among other stuff, a lot of some "funny" videos
that must be one of the reasons why it's huge
 
WHY THE HELL CAN I NOT SET A SEPARATE BACKGROUND FOR EACH HOMESCREEN!
 
The moment when you realized you asked @McAdam to pick up the kids...
 
lol, what sarge? xD
you mean videos in the source code or videos about the source code? xD
Tristan, I assume you wanted to send that message to someone else? =p
 
Make sure to warn the kids
 
7:19 PM
^ something like this
 
that's in a tests folder
 
yeah
 
ah, funny =p
Hi Eski
 
it could be in a git submodule or something
 
hey miva
 
7:28 PM
What the hell is this...
 
|o|
 
Does anyone have experience with Codeanywhere or Nitrous or any other browser IDE?
 
o/ miva
 
\o
 
I do miva
 
7:30 PM
Is it useable for android?
 
Just had a meeting with my boss about our new project. I now have a little more specific instructions than "build a database"
 
Define useable
You can code in the TextBox on google.com. You can code in Java on Codeanywhere fine. It's not like you can run an emulator with it.
 
When I'm not on the pc I work on it, can i quickly go in the ide, write some stuff down and be done?
 
That's good enough I gues :D
Guys, my android studio looks really weird. The font changed lol
 
7:34 PM
I don't see a java template on CodeAnywhere am I blind
 
someone ran a security analysis on my app and told me that it reads list of running apps. How is this possible, I am not aware of any part of my app that would do that
can you please advise
 
18 hours ago, by Tristan Wiley
Sorry too close to your face? I thought you were blind.
 
do a ctrl+shift+f on "packagemanager"
 
18 hours ago, by Tristan Wiley
Well, you are now
 
@meda or maybe one of the libraries your project uses
If you have any security measures in your app, they can check if there arr no malicious apps on the phone
or if you check for root a really simple check would be to see if superuser app or superSU is installed (or whatever they are called)
 
7:38 PM
@RaghavSood is there a technology not listed on your resume?
 
BlackBerry
I eventually do plan to use it to get a job, so I left it out :P
 
:'D
 
@miva2 yes it seems like they reversed the app, they also told me it integrates with ad network and social media
things that I have no clue about
 
The analysis software could be crap, most of that stuff is
 
I dont really use 3rd party libs
 
7:41 PM
probably a library you included then
 
I got google play service jar and GSON
thats all
 
If you don't use 3rd party libs then my first thought would be eski's answer
 
ok
how can I check that on the library
 
play services does a lot but I don't know exactly what. Maybe you can check that?
 
these stuff are not in my manifest file
 
7:43 PM
Bored so I'm making the library I work at a sleek Bootstrap website
 
Did you make all of the app yourself or just a part?
cool tristan, show us when you're done :D
 
Haha okay, I work in an hour so I'm not gonna get done now xD
 
That's ok, I'm patient
Ah, I finally found the sourceCode of LaunchMiva ;D
 
me irl
 
Why does bitbucket allow me to choose "Language: Android"
haha adam :D
 
7:49 PM
because it likes you
 
aww, now I get all fuzzy inside. Thanks bitbucket!
 
<3 bitbucket
I'm hungry.
 
because Android is not (only) Java :P
 
duh! It's also javascript
 
@miva2 maybe for default gitignore files?
 
7:55 PM
Yeah probably
but calling Android a language is still wrong .__.
o/ Trevor
 
lol true
\o
 
I think I did something wrong... Am I not supposed to make an empty repo on bitbuclet first and then add a project to it through sourcetree?
 
you can
just add your repo as a remote to your sourcetree project
then push
 

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