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12:19 AM
hah
neb for you:
 
lol nice
 
12:36 AM
lol
 
ok, time to head out
(where did the day go?)
theoretically 26 days before launch!
I have a lot of work to do
see you all tomorrow
 
\o/
 
Bye, Carl!
Hi again, everyone else!
You know what sucks???
Bluetooth sucks!
 
12:57 AM
turn wifi off
 
as always: nice hardware, shitty samsung software
 
I got 11 calls for jobs today at work
 
I can't...need WiFi on at the same time
 
11 calls? 0o
 
I, unfortunately, watched their presentation today
 
1:00 AM
from different companies/recruiters?
 
How can the galaxy S2 still be $300 when the S5 is announced
yeah mostly recruiters
 
If it was the same company then they better work on communication before hiring anyone for development
 
wow
anything really interesting in it?
 
I am only really looking at the ones in San Francisco
 
zapl, it's device dependent and unpredictable
 
1:02 AM
Ah nice
 
but it is harder when you are competing with people that are already in the area
 
A HUGE potential client is having issues that I haven't yet been able to reproduce. Seems restarting device fixes it but that is obviously unacceptable
Eskimo, what area are you looking for?
I get proposals all the time but I'm not looking so I could pass something along if it comes up
 
wifi / bluetooth coexistance problems exist, 1 antenna for 2 things to send / receive on the same frequency
 
Ah
But I don't have the problem on a lot of devices. Seems to be certain brands (worse on cheap Chinese brands)
I use Bluetooth to get data from a separate device then WiFi to send it to the server. ..
 
bluetooth / wifi 1chip solutions or just crappy drivers
 
1:07 AM
You think I need to close the Bluetooth connection when I'm done before sending data
I have to admit, I'm not to up on the hardware aspects of it
 
I have definitely found that some off brand devices have janky wifi chips
I've even go so far as to create a Service that exists only to toggle the wifi every now and then for when it craps out =x
 
hehe
 
hey guys!
 
I have been finding the same though have still had issues on big name devices but not on the same level
 
neb, how come you got good at OpenGL?
 
1:10 AM
I'm just trying to figure out if it is worth looking into a software solution or if I just need to change hardware
 
I have had some wifi trouble on a 2-3 year old LG device that we are using for a project also
is your project meant to run on a device 24/7?
 
cuz I learned it
 
If you're using it correctly and e.g. other software known to work well has the same problem you better switch hardware. The whole bluetooth system architecture is incredibly complex and usually not that well tested
 
It's used every 2-3 hours throughout a normal work day
 
This is really frustrating... Why is ProGuard not including everything... Sigh...
 
1:14 AM
+ constraints on what is technically possible when using the same frequency for two things in parallel
 
It was special hardware that we got for one specific client so it hasn't been thoroughly tested with other software
 
lol!
I got that neb.
but were you forced to learn it for a project or simply just thought it would be good to know?
any evaluation lol?
 
But my software works on Samsung tablets, etc... with only very intermittent problems
 
both those things are true
it's good to be continually improving your skillset
 
fair enough. :)
made any cool games with it or anything?
 
1:18 AM
made a wallpaper as a learning thing,
 
SUCCESS!
 
working on a game now, with libgdx
and have a plan for another game
 
oh sweet, nice one.
got any screenshots you can send me? I'm intrigued. :D
 
I am able to see my pc screen from Glass!
 
hey emm.
niceee. ^^
 
1:19 AM
you can go buy the wallpaper if you want
or look at the screenshots
 
your wallpaper app is made using OpenGL?
 
I saw that. ^^
 
yes
 
nice.
I've no idea where you started with that.
but cool. :D
brb getting a drink.
I've never really looked at integrating it with Android.
I'm currently working on it with c++ though.
 
1:28 AM
@zapl do you think closing the Bluetooth connection completely before sending the data should solve it or is it still going to be a hardware issue?
 
lol ed
I just finished watching the first episode of House of cards
I like it
 
I haven't watched any of that yet...
Maybe I should
 
You guys in the US have it so easy
you have that hulu and netflix stuff
And all that
we have to search for shitty streams if we want to watch something
 
@codeMagic I'm looking for an android position in san francisco or dc
but more san francisco
 
Hmmmm I might start putting cat photos in my app screenshots too.
 
1:37 AM
The cat pic is awesome
But I already said that when I first saw it a few months back
 
Hmmm, I went looking for pictures of my cat to use in that pull request I sent the other day, but I don't have any good ones.
 
I finished house of cards season 2 in two days
 
o0
lol
 
it's pretty enticing lol
 
Adam the pull request for the fragments bug?
 
1:44 AM
Eskimo, I will let you know if I see anything
 
Haha, naw, the fix to TouchImageView
 
Aah
:)
 
Used a photo from our trip around the Coromandel Peninsula instead.
 
Confirmed that Proguard seems to be hosing my project... Sigh. Now, what to do about it...
 
2:01 AM
This is pretty cool, anyone know if anything like this is possible with Java? darkdust.net/writings/objective-c/method-swizzling
 
I don't know of a way to do it quite like that, but maybe reflections package has something close? You can change a method when you call a constructor for an object though, which could probably be used to achieve something similar
I doubt there is a way to override the syncronized command though
 
Hmmm, wonder if that's how they do the overdraw overlays.
 
its finally caught up to me
i need to implement a task queue
 
Anyway, was just something I was curious about, I don't actually have in mind any use for it!
Can do that with RxJava can't you?
 
well
idk if its actually a task queue
its kind of weird
basically im gonna be downloading the files on the fly
and lets say i get 10 files im doing all 10 at once
but in case the user is using the app while the files are being downloaded
i need to know which ones are currently in a queue
so im thinking a static arraylist in the application class might do the trick
 
2:14 AM
static arraylist?
hmm doesn't sound right
 
that guy better take your pull request adam
or im rioting
 
im with you on that one eskimo
 
VLC is such a good video player
 
it's true, it supports everything
 
@Ahmad the goal is to be able to, at any point in the app, know if a certain file is being downloaded currently or not
i dont think making a sql table is really efficient for that
 
2:17 AM
Yeah
 
it made the process of sharing my desktop screen to Glass that much easier
 
using DownloadManager?
 
if only it had a nicer skin (I don't mean all the themes they have either because they all suck).
 
But I don't know, there has to be a more obvious and better way to handle that
 
one thing is that the downloads obviously take place on a different thread
so it needs to be sychronized
though i could just post the main thread when i want to change the list
 
2:19 AM
yeah just use callbacks
 
no im not using download manager
 
What are you downloading?
Are these files large?
 
files from s3
mp3s specifically
 
I learned in an interview one time that any handler created on the UI thread will execute runnables on the UI thread
 
no theyre small
 
2:21 AM
Ah
Hmm but eskimo is righ, you could use the download manager for that
@ExceptionAl Welcome. Please read the room rules.
 
yea im reading up on the docs for that right now
 
@PearsonArtPhoto How's the Android course coming for you?
 
Well, may be a stupid question but... does "unicorn" has any special meaning here?
 
The unicorn is a legendary animal that has been described since antiquity as a beast with a large, pointed, spiraling horn projecting from its forehead. The unicorn was depicted in ancient seals of the Indus Valley Civilization and was mentioned by the ancient Greeks in accounts of natural history by various writers, including Ctesias, Strabo, Pliny the Younger, and Aelian. The Bible also describes an animal, the re'em, which some translations have rendered with the word unicorn. In European folklore, the unicorn is often depicted as a white horselike or goatlike animal with a long h...
 
JMR we have something similar with our app - we have a bunch of web requests, downloading films, sessions, etc, and we only want a single instance of a given request to be in flight at a given time. So I've got a class which manages starting these requests and it's just got a list of names it tracks - if that request is already in the list, it just returns.
 
2:30 AM
 
That's a pegasus =p
 
Our success/failure is coming through an event bus, so it's listening for those events, and when it hears that it grabs the name of the network task from the event and removes it from the "in progress" list.
 
(nope, same meaning as everywhere else)
 
@Code-Guru Pretty good so far, although it's been a while since I've touched it.
 
I feel like I'm behind. I have barely started watching the week 5 videos.
Of course, this is the first week with almost all brand new material for me. And it's also been my busiest week IRL
 
2:32 AM
Same here. I often watch them while doing tedious stuff at work, didn't go in today.
 
I guess I need to improve my English. Because I don't get "We heard you like Android and rules so we put unicorns in it because unicorns." that is in the rules page.
 
Now, if I could only debug my project... Sigh.
 
p.s. does anyone know how SO parses wikipedia and creates that little blurb? specifically how did it decide on that image, which isn't even a unicorn, it's some sort of extinct rhino. when there are several pictures of legitimate unicorns that appear before that one on the page.
ahmad: can you work on fixing that? =p
 
@ExceptionAl That sentence isn't correct English.
 
It's not intended to mean anything really
just a joke
 
2:34 AM
Now I feel much better lol
 
lol foamy
 
So, I'm going to try and install Android Studio, just for the fun of it.
 
the only thing about the download manager is that im not launching this download from an activity
 
@PearsonArtPhoto best thing you can do, it's much better than Eclipse IMHO
 
Well, it'll be fun to figure out, but I'm getting no where debugging my ProGuard problems, and I suspect it's Eclipse causing the issues, so...
 
2:37 AM
also, it doesnt seem to have a way to indicate which files are currently being downloaded
thats the most important part
 
Does anybody know if there's a due date for AS to come out of EAP?
 
@PearsonArtPhoto Did I tell you that I figured out the cause of my testing problems? I haven't found a solution yet, though... ;-(
 
@ExceptionAl remember how long gmail was in beta
 
Nice, what's the problem?
 
Good point @JMRboosties
 
2:40 AM
The problem is that the database file remains open across all testXxx() methods in a test class. So any changes to the database propogate across tests.
even when I delete the database file, the open file in memory keeps its contents intact.
so I need to figure out a way to either close the ContentProvider or destroy the Application object which owns it.
 
wut
 
like i dont favor animals becoming extinct
and i have nothing against rhinos
but it seems like their time has come man
 
lol
 
2:58 AM
You... I like you — BadKarma 28 mins ago
damn....
life saving Evo 3D: imgur.com/TOwGBDA
 
user457812
Nice of HTC. Marketing thing, so it's got a bit of an odd aftertaste, but nice nonetheless.
 
user457812
That's cute, the new Samsung phone has a fingerprint scanner cough cough
 
user457812
Wonder where they got that idea from.
 
samsung is trying to trademark "Finger Scanner"
 
user457812
Not sure if joking...
 
user457812
Honestly, Samsung feels like it's the corporate equivalent of the Indian help vampire stereotype.
 
user457812
They're Korean, but everything they do just gives off this weird vibe like they want to copy/paste things
 
lol
 
kinda the opposite though they build a lot of unnecessary crap
but I guess spending millions on software doesnt matter so much when you are making billions
 
user457812
They make a ton of stuff that isn't copying, but they tend to push the stuff that's blatantly copying other things a lot harder
 
user457812
3:20 AM
Google's off doing its own thing at this point, HTC's the guy shouting "I'm not dead yet!," Nokia's choking on its own blood, and Motorola's dead.
 
user457812
Kind of a crappy time to be an Android OEM selling to anyone in the US, at least.
 
user457812
Samsung's basically got that locked down.
 
user457812
And LG, meanwhile, is the idiot that desperately wants people to stop calling it an idiot while it simultaneously ducks on the corner of a brick
 
samsung is more massive than they seem at first glance
they have a subsidiary that is one of the largest (by revenue) shipbuilders in the world
also, Samsung Life Insurance (the world's 14th-largest life insurance company)
 
user457812
4:20 AM
You can say that about a lot of companies, actually.
 
Heya, Everyone :)
 
user457812
One that still kind of surprises me is Amazon just because I have the hardest time not thinking of them as just a store even though they're also a huge cloud provider, a publisher, device maker (not necessarily a manufacturer, but I'd say that's a "yet"), etc.
 
Hey, nil what's up ?
 
4:40 AM
\o
 
Heya, Williams
Sleepy Williams :P
get back to work :D
 
Seeing StackOverflow questions
 
So you're on work ;) Good!
 
yes
downvoting :P
 
Lolz
I have answered yesterday
Edit if necessary,
 
4:53 AM
Yes, it seems right to me
 
but don't say me to upvote :P
 
Of-course not. I know, you know only downvoting :P
 
morning
 
exactly
o/
 
4:57 AM
Morning :D
 
5:09 AM
TIL a good increment for counting up in a textview is 25 ms.
anything less than that feels slow
 
cool!
good for samsung
 
It's just for Samsung smart watches
 
user457812
After so many years and name changes, I suppose it's good that Tizen is on something, even if it's just a useless watch
 
user457812
5:21 AM
Reminded me of meego/moblin too, which used this:
 
user457812
Clutter is a graphics library for creating hardware-accelerated user interfaces. It relies upon OpenGL (1.4+) or OpenGL ES (1.1 or 2.0) for rendering, can be compiled on different platforms (X11, Wayland, Darwin and Win32) and has multiple bindings to other languages (including Mono, Perl, Python, Ruby and Vala). It also supports media playback using GStreamer and 2D graphics rendering using Cairo. Clutter was created by OpenedHand Ltd, now part of Intel. Clutter is free and open-source software, subject to the requirements of the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL), version 2.1. ...
 
user457812
Which is one of those libraries that I want to at some point use to build something but have no idea what I'd use it for
 
5:37 AM
Can't a developer set the virtual imei of Genymotion ?
It is giving null
 
 
2 hours later…
7:13 AM
google it :)
 
Heya, Anders
I have inflated menu in one of my activity, why cant I see the menu button the on that activity
 
gentlemen
 
is it in your xml or java
 
I have inflated xml inside onCreateOptionsMenu() function
 
7:28 AM
Uhmm
Can't really remember how menus work
'ello Reed :)
 
@AndersMetnik I was afk, I did before you said this, I found on one blog it is in for commercial plan of the GenyMotion
 
is R.id.delete in your menu.xml
?
Hey Anders!
 
Shit still havn't answered your mail, sorry @luckyreed76
 
7:30 AM
I have put onle one item having id "delete"
 
did you define a icon
no worries Anders
 
user457812
@BAmiyo You've got write access on the condition that you read the rules and agree to follow them. You've got ten-ish minutes to do this.
 
Still need me to answer it ?
 
No I dont as it does not require
 
it does
 
7:31 AM
title is enough
 
@TheLittleNaruto fragment or normal activity ?
 
normal activity
It does ? But I dont want to show any icon
 
yeah @AndersMetnik it has changed a little bit
 
Send me an updated mail then, I'll try and fit it in tonight :)
 
cool man, i hate foreign keys and all that
 
7:32 AM
Hehe
 
SQL is not as fun
 
The problem is I can not see the menu button , on clicking which I can see the menu items
 
try setting the android:icon
 
Let us see the deleteonly xml naruto
 
user457812
I think mr. BAm is too busy spamming other rooms to read the rules and acknowledge the rules.
 
user457812
7:34 AM
I should just fast-forward this and revoke his access..
 
Sure thing nil :)
 
deleteonly , Anders
Okay Lucky
 
@nil okay
 
I don't think delete is a recognized id in Android...not sure though
 
@nil i am a new user.
 
user457812
7:37 AM
As a new user, you should refrain from spamming questions.
 
user457812
Instead, hang out for a while and chat like a normal person.
 
okay
 
user457812
Otherwise people get their panties in a twist.
 
adding icon dint make change , same issue persist
Should I change the id ? , Lucky
 
I can't see the problem
cleanbuild and all :) check error log? :)
 
7:38 AM
android:showAsAction="ifRoom"
 
Okay
still not solved
Man! It's a simple thing , I am stuck at.
There must be a minor mistake
 
It is always a minor mistake
 
Yeah! :)
I have made a demo project for menu options
the menu button is on title bar at right
My activity is set to full screen
Cant I show the menu button along with home and task manager button instead on title bar?
 
take it off full screen
 
user457812
I wish I could raise goldfish plants.
 
7:48 AM
removing full screen shows the menu button on title bar
 
are you sure you set android:icon =drawable/delete
 
8:04 AM
Yes
android:icon="@drawable/logo"
Lucky, is there any way to show menu overflow icon on bottom along with back, home button instead of title bar?
 
good question...not sure the answer. Try google
 
I just found this , seems promising
I'll give it a try
Wow! It worked Man!
 
you are welcome hahah
 
Good morning guys
 
8:30 AM
\o
 
o/
 
@Williams I still don't get why I shouldn't post a link to an article here just because you have a senior looking over your shoulder. If you are being watched, how about not going online in the chat in the first place?!
hey kabuto! still awake!?
 
XD! for now o.o
 
@WarrenFaith Agreed!
 
AdamS, I saw you on G+ in the "about library" discussion
 
user457812
8:47 AM
About library?
 
user457812
If that's a thing I can't even begin to imagine how you'd google it without hitting every (physical — i.e., contains books) library's "about" page first
 
user457812
It's a shame I can't link to this thread on SA about web dev. It's pretty funny.
 
user457812
Damned paywall makes it hard to share stuff.
 
@WarrenFaith Okay Leave it, no problem :)
 

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