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8:00 PM
What happened to your avatar? :(
 
:D
you like?
 
mao as in the chairman?
 
@Pheagey kinda, but I am a bit dissappointed
:D
 
'cause we're not avatar buddies anymore....
Its ok, I still like you.
 
@Fabien Typing is hard c'mon!
@Pheagey :-)
 
8:01 PM
I preferred the typo :(
 
:P
 
@HamZa victory?
Do I see a @Chris in room 11?
 
I just wrote in /etc/hosts/
192.168.41.101 cyberguru.com
is that good ?
 
@HamZa Yes. And now make a request to http://cyberguru.com
 
8:05 PM
@PeeHaa shouldn't I restart something ?
 
Nope
 
hello
 
@HamZa evidently has not installed any adobe products before. :)
 
Sem
@HamZa I always prefer a local prefix when stuff is on the local network (local.cyberguru.com)
 
@PeeHaa nothing :(
@Sem lol I first must make it work !!!
 
8:06 PM
wsup
 
@Sem I abuse domain.localhost for that, but @DaveRandom always yells at me for that
 
@Happyninja Tearing my hairs right now ....
 
@HamZa Define nothing
 
@HamZa why?
 
@PeeHaa I get the ad to buy that domain
 
Sem
8:07 PM
@HamZa So, you were busy with some sort of VM right? Why not a simple apache daemon?
 
@HamZa hmmmm that is very strange
Ping that shit
 
do you use wild cart certificate?
 
Unsure if it'd help as @PeeHaa knows more, but instead of $document_root in the conf I just hardcoded it.
SCRIPT_FILENAME  /var/www/judyq/public_html/$fastcgi_script_name;
 
MWAAHAHAHAHHAHAA IT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOORKS
 
Changes in the hosts file should reflect without restarting anything
 
8:08 PM
nm then
 
@HamZa VICTORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
THAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANKS !
 
@HamZa As a note, SSH all server stuff :P
 
Sem
Congrats, now explain to me what you've made. I must know.
 
@Fabien thanks yeah, now I can copy paste !
 
8:09 PM
Can we PM on SO?
 
Nope :(
@Happyninja Yes I do
 
@Sem @Happyninja I was trying to install nginx & php5.5 !
 
@PeeHaa da
 
pieterhordijk.com @Happyninja
@Chris What have you been up to?
 
@PeeHaa I restarted networking things
 
8:10 PM
@HamZa hmmmm k. Learn something new everyday :)
 
@tereško mwahahaha I got NGINX !!!
 
@PeeHaa While I don't remember when I had a notice about the fact it soon wouldn't be possible to register that kind.
 
/me boasting now lol
 
We launched some new intranet stuff I've been working on for the past few months... busying my ass off with busy-ness.
 
@Happyninja I doubt that :P
@Chris Aaaah real life again...
:)
 
8:11 PM
@HamZa you mean that you made it actually work with php-fpm or that you managed to install it at all
 
@tereško well it shows "hello world" :D
 
Ahh thats the first thing mine said too :)
 
come back when it shows php_info()
 
@tereško lol
 
8:12 PM
lol
 
.. or was it without underscore
 
challenge accepted
 
@PeeHaa got it; it's related to the SAN (Subject Alternate Name)
 
Why do people abuse strtotime so much?
 
@tereško hehehehehehe
 
8:14 PM
i can never remember
 
php -i
:D
 
@MichaelIrigoyen 'cause its easy?
 
Sem
@tereško One of the flaws of php IMHO, unpredictable func names.
 
same things goes for me and needle, haystacks vs haystack, needle.
 
@Chris interesting
 
8:15 PM
@Sem yes...
 
@Fabien array vs string functions is all you need to know ;)
 
@tereško mwahahaha it works :D
 
@Fabien really need to have a consistent format for that as well
 
But yeah it sucks even when you know it
 
@ircmaxell...any chance on that?
 
8:16 PM
I found it useful to encrypt local https data
 
@Happyninja Why would you encrypt encrypted data?
:P
 
@PeeHaa my english still not that good. But I think you understand why it could be useful to have something else then a self-signed certificate
 
@Happyninja If you want to use ssl/tls there is really no reason to use a self signed certificate
cetificates are dirt cheap
Or free even
@Happyninja startssl.com
 
@PeeHaa there si certain circumstance where you need to have a SAN to a Wildcard cert
 
You got a link on how you installed SSL on your serv?
 
8:20 PM
Well yeah there may be some
@HamZa Nope not really. But it is really easy. Config wise it is a matter of:
listen 443 ssl;
ssl_certificate     /path/to/cart/name.crt;
ssl_certificate_key /path/to/cart/name.key;
In your server config
 
oh, I see...
Will google it ...
 
How much is a cert and you need to renew every year right?
 
@Fabien You can generate one yourself AFAIK
 
@Fabien startssl is free
 
So why choose a paid one over free?
 
8:23 PM
More insurance
 
user895378
@Fabien You're welcome: pastebin.com/m3aVQCg8
 
ty @rdlowrey :)
 
user895378
just change the values and execute the script.
 
All I remember about our old certs is they ALWAYS forgot to renew them.
 
user895378
I mean, it won't do you much good because browsers won't trust your cert but you can use it for testing.
 
user895378
8:25 PM
For any sort of production environment you'll actually want to get a cert from a real Certificate Authority.
 
Ah that makes sense.
 
@rdlowrey Yeah although imho EV certs are the biggest scam in history of the web
 
there are situation where it prevent a system to works
like with email mobile device push
 
So @HamZa What's next? After SSL
 
@Fabien checking I postgresql is working (remotely), after that maybe installing FTP ? But I doubt if that's needed ...
 
8:30 PM
Also, where does everyone do their hosting?
 
what ssl spec has hostname as a request var?
 
@HamZa why? You already have SFTP
 
@HamZa If you are the only one that needs to copy files. Just sftp that shit
 
^
 
ok guys, that makes sense. I'm wondering how do I manage my stuff.
I mean, I used to use ftp in notepad++. But that's all old now
So how are you guys doing ? I hope not downloading a file manually, editing locally and then uploading manually ?
 
8:32 PM
@HamZa git
 
Something I need to learn :(
 
@Fabien We host on RackSpace
 
@PeeHaa Ok, so that's my next step. Thanks
 
@Fabien cloudvps (dutch)
 
@HamZa Sublime Text 2 w. Git Extention.
then SSH pushing from dev -> prod
 
8:33 PM
@Pheagey I see, I got ST now ...
 
@HamZa while writing? I use winscp to sync files with the VM while I am writing
 
Do they allow you to choose what distribution you want on their hosting?
 
@tereško "win" --> I'm on linux now :)
 
@HamZa rsync that shit :)
@Fabien yes
 
8:34 PM
.. or you can just mount the remote file system
 
@tereško hoooo~ That sounds interesting !
 
hosting is expensive :(
 
VM's are free !
 
@Fabien neh hosting is also dirt cheap
 
i'm paying 14 EUR/mo for a VPS
 
8:38 PM
 
@tereško we pay like 125$/mo CAN :(
 
Or pick one of the many other cheap vps hosters
 
@PeeHaa that's in USA
 
@PeeHaa I would be free on that to choose my distribution?
 
@PeeHaa Do never use them. Seriously!
 
8:39 PM
@tereško ah true
 
actually we own the hardware too
 
here is a thought - don't host your stuff in USA
 
^ that
 
@cheesemacfly I won't. :) I'm happy where I am :)
 
I'm using tilaa.com (Netherlands). But I have not used it long enough to actually recommend it.
My basic requirements were - VPS, in EU, with FreeBSD, under 20EUR/mo
 
8:42 PM
Gotta make a good friend in the hosting business -_- exploit for free hosting.
 
@Fabien did that few years ago. Isn't worth it.
 
lol
 
lol
My old company made JustHost.com so I am definitely never going there.
 
Silly really, looking at buying hosting so I can put my parked domains there :P
I should really use LamePHP.com for something.
 
8:46 PM
WTF gravatar changed my avatar??
 
lolz
 
No fucking way... :(
To the meta mobile!
 
Anonymous
40
Q: How do I remove background-image in css?

Itay Moav -MalimovkaI have a general rule which gives all DIVs a background image. I have one div (with id='a') which I don't want it to have the background image. What css rule do I have to give it?

 
^ this user has no idea about what he's doing ...
 
Anonymous
8:48 PM
81 upvotes for a tip
 
@Simon_eQ I shall flag that as low quality lol
 
Anonymous
this is why I have less and less respect for people with over 50k who joined SO when everyone was stupid
 
@Simon_eQ meh
 
Anonymous
@HamZa ehh, I have seen worse.
 
8:50 PM
chilling from my nginx horror:
 
Anonymous
@cheesemacfly how many accounts do you have man?
 
@HamZa i was there myself when I began.
 
Lol, that's what I was about to ask you :D
 
Anonymous
@cheesemacfly I don't know what that means honestly.
 
Anonymous
@HamZa I am working on a site which probably gets more than 100 mil visits a month:)
 
Anonymous
8:52 PM
let me check alexia
 
@Happyninja where ?
@Simon_eQ 100 mili visits :-)
 
Just kidding. Appears to be someone in this chat if you look here -->
 
@Simon_eQ Btw are you in that company or what are you doing right now ?
 
cheeky, my hosting auto-renews 15 days before hosting is up. Which was 6 days ago. Another year it is!
 
Anonymous
@HamZa yes, I am in that company. They told me to create a mobile site, for this site I am talking about.
 
Anonymous
8:55 PM
I am checking alexa but, can't find how many users visit each month
 
@Simon_eQ Nice, are they going to pay you ?
 
No. The identicons still come from gravatar, but not via a hash calculated from your email address. Users can still opt in to a gravatar if they have a gravatar account with an image. — m0sa 13 hours ago
 
Anonymous
@HamZa Nope! I am the one doing the paying. I slash 15$ a day, for transport and luch :/
 
Do they not have their own stats?
 
Mystery solved
 
Anonymous
8:56 PM
sad, but true story
 
Interning?
 
@Simon_eQ So you're doing something like an internship ...
For how long ?
 
Sem
@Simon_eQ mobile site or a responsive one?
 
Anonymous
@HamZa Nope. I am taking a test until monday to see, if I have some potential or I am a complete idiot. After the test, if I pass I'll take internship with low salary as a starter..
 
Anonymous
@Sem mobile.
 
Sem
8:59 PM
@Simon_eQ to bad :(
 
Anonymous
m.foo.com
 
@Simon_eQ Question 1. What does the CONCAT() function do in MySQL?
 
Anonymous
@Fabien Just a minute, let me google that :p
 
:)
Question 2. How do you pronounce SQL?
 
Sem
@Fabien jQueery
 
Anonymous
9:01 PM
seequel
 
If it is mysql as sequel if it is postgres as es que el
 
Anonymous
wait, like a movie seequel
 
:P
 
@PeeHaa No, MySQL is "My" "S - Q - L"
"sequel" is only used for SQL-Server (a microsoft product)
 
@ircmaxell no way
Lemme me check the archives yahoo answers :p
 
Anonymous
9:03 PM
I once got this html 5 tut from somewhere. The guy irritated me saying "hech - t - m -l"
 
damn it @ircmaxell
 
@Simon_eQ CONCAT shouldn't be googled :(
 
@ircmaxell Any other things you want to tell me I have been wrong about me entire life while you are at it?
 
Anonymous
@HamZa anyway, I can't find how many mils. But the site has 18000 links referring to it.
 
Anonymous
thats got to be big right?
 
9:05 PM
@Simon_eQ well it doesn't matter if it's big or not, I'm more worried about you. Do your best and let's hope you get a place there
 
@PeeHaa nah, I limit myself to one earth-changing correction per day :-P
 
Anonymous
@HamZa thanks. I just can't believe my chance of working in that site.
 
Sweet, bluehost is letting me cancel despite the auto-renewal and they'll refund me. £100 saved :)
 
I'm looking forward to tomorrow :P @ircmaxell
 
Anonymous
9:06 PM
just like I thought, but worth checking
 
lol @Simon_eQ Your test not on paper? :)
 
:-P
 
@Simon_eQ Well as long they don't supervise everything, you could google some things :)
 
Anonymous
@HamZa What do you think I was doing earlier today hmm?
 
@Simon_eQ learning ?
 
Anonymous
9:12 PM
@HamZa working!! It's free to do what you please. Pretty liberal work-space with flat hierarchy decision making.
 
Anonymous
btw: I was wrong. I just checked the site gets 200 Million visits per month.
 
Anonymous
\o/
 
@Simon_eQ Hmmm, so a big work place ?
 
Anonymous
@HamZa Nope. flat hierarchy === no boss.
 
@Simon_eQ ah ok
 
Anonymous
9:14 PM
everything is done through dialog.
 
Anonymous
You have no one to control you.
 
@Simon_eQ Sounds like a bunch of hippies to me :P
 
@PeeHaa lol exactly
 
Anonymous
@PeeHaa :)
 
Anonymous
9:17 PM
My first day (yesterday) was a total disaster. I brought, my one and only HP probook 4520 hoping to install things I've never heard off before, in the company. The laptop just simply refused.
 
@PeeHaa E_TOO_MUCH_CHOICE
 
@HamZa We need a new option. All of above :P
2
 
haha
 
Anonymous
^ agree.
 
You had to bring your own laptop?
 
9:18 PM
Bring your own device (BYOD) (also called bring your own technology (BYOT), bring your own phone (BYOP), and bring your own PC (BYOPC)) means the policy of permitting employees to bring personally owned mobile devices (laptops, tablets, and smart phones) to their workplace, and use those devices to access privileged company information and applications. The term is also used to describe the same practice applied to students using personally owned devices in education settings. [http://malleehome.com/?p=184 Bring Your Own Technology (BYOT) on maleehome.com] BYOD is making significant inroad...
 
Anonymous
@Fabien yes. Why? oO
 
I dunno, just seems like the kind of thing that should be provided.
 
Anonymous
The whole sites source code is in my laptop as we speak.
 
@Simon_eQ Most companies don't let you work on your laptop. They either have computers on site, or if you are lucky they provide you with a laptop
 
Anonymous
@Fabien You are right. But, no one has Windows in that place. All are macs, linux -- so It was supposed to favor me.
 
Sem
9:20 PM
@Simon_eQ Mind sharing the URL?
 
@Simon_eQ SO let them buy you a macbook :p
 
Anonymous
@Sem for?
 
Sem is trying to steal some ideas ...
 
Anonymous
2 days ago, by Simon _eQ
I have a test on my PHP skills tomorrow, in a company so big, I've wholeheartedly given myself, the certitude of my failure. I'll just practice more, to fail with some dignity.
 
Sem
@Simon_eQ This website that you are going to make a mobile version of.
 
9:21 PM
@Simon_eQ Do you have any hints to what the site is like?
And by site I mean test
 
Sem
@HamZa Ideas for webapps? To lazy to realize it in my free time trust me.
 
Anonymous
@Sem No one is closer to me like @HamZa here. What makes you think I'll show you a site that is being designed by a total idiot like me :?
 
You have to design it!?
 
@Simon_eQ @Sem lives about 3KM far away from me, he's technically closer lol
 
Stalker alert
 
Sem
9:23 PM
@Simon_eQ I don't know, just want to take a look, give some tips on how to design the mobile version and be amazed I don't know
 
Anonymous
@Fabien The organization provided the wireframe, I just convert that to html5/css3
 
wireframe -_-
 
@Simon_eQ you will find that big companies are peopled with a lot of idiots...
 
Did they give you a deadline?
Also why give you as task if you completely flop the exam?
 
Sem
@Fabien Shush, wireframes are wonderful
 
Anonymous
9:26 PM
Obviously they will run tests on it. I won't be the last one to work on the site. Anyway, @Fabien the task/exam is same. => design the mobile site. @Orangepill These people are different. Its like a Google-like work space. Enjoy, play, joke, chat pingpong...
 
Oh, gotcha.
Have you built a mobile site before?
 
Anonymous
There are no bosses. Everyone shares a project, the time is indicated. (in my case 5 days) and its upto you, you do the site in a day and rest for 4 days or whatever... @Fabien responsive-- yes!
 
Sounds fishy. Abandon ship!
 
Anonymous
@Fabien btw: mobile site is not that hard. once you get the media queries ...
 
Anonymous
@Fabien why?
 
9:29 PM
A joke :P
I prefer dedicated mobile sites personally.
 
I prefer desktop sites most of the time
 
Sem
@Simon_eQ Why would you use media queries if you're making an entire front-end just for mobiles..?
 
@PeeHaa the 960 grid :P
 
@PeeHaa lol, yes.
 
@Simon_eQ That sounds awesome...good luck to you
 
Anonymous
9:31 PM
@Orangepill thanks. :)
 
Sem
@HamZa Still can't get over the fact that Google's results and YouTube are not centered at least
 
Anonymous
I am not optimistic I will pass the test though. As I am way out of my league. Anyway, we will see..
 
Anonymous
@Sem actually. I worked with responsive sites, but this time it will be for a mobile site only.
 
Sem
@Simon_eQ Then you don't need media queries
 
Anonymous
take away the media query, what you have is just a mobile site beneath it.
 
9:33 PM
@Simon_eQ You'll do fine.
As Sem says, don't worry about media queries.
 
Sem
@Simon_eQ How detailed are the wireframes, and do you have a wireframe for each page?
 
Anonymous
@Fabien The weird thing is, they only called me to interview after I wrote letter saying, I will work for free
 
Anonymous
@Sem Not very detailed. Just a photoshop mockup
 
@Simon_eQ Pricisely, even if you were terrible, which you are not, you're free.
@Simon_eQ zaketeck.com/2013/02/Mobile-Website-Design-2013.html Start browsing source code.
 
Anonymous
@Fabien Yea. Even if I work for free, and leave after some months, I could get attestation and be able to work in any other it company with ease.
 
9:36 PM
The only media query you should be concerned about for mobile is if they include tables as mobile.
 
Anonymous
thanks.
 
@Sem you shall trust them, they hire all kind of engineers and psychologues ...
 
Sem
@Fabien So many <div>s so little time
@HamZa I can read from left to right in the center too! :(
 
@Sem and from right to left ?
 
Sem
@HamZa Can't read hebrew or anything like that, sorry.
 
9:38 PM
ok
 
Anonymous
Actually, I'm not doing this from scrach. I go through a lot of places to look for sources codes to compare, read things, constantly testing... its harder than it sounds
 
@Simon_eQ Just don't work for free for too long :P At least see if they can cover you travel at some point.
 
Anonymous
Its just for a week. It will end this Friday. Then its either yes/no.
 
@Simon_eQ btw do you live on your own ?
 
what format is this
 
Anonymous
9:41 PM
Jun 11 at 13:46, by php NoOB ఠ_ఠ
@MadaraUchiha I can't travel, I am an asylum seeker :(
 
Anonymous
@HamZa I thought you knew me man!! I am disappointed. :p
 
@Simon_eQ It seems I wasn't there at that time
but that wasn't my question. My question was if you live alone, or with someone ?
 
Sem
@Orangepill could be some awkward CSV? Invalid JSON? :P
 
@sem I looks kinda like vcard
 
Sem
@HamZa snif snif I smell a LAN party
 
9:44 PM
Woah woah woah, do we have any gamers here?
 
@Sem hahaha
@Fabien I was a Counter Strike addict ...
 
Anonymous
gamer?? guilty.
 
Which CS?
p.s. RPGs don't count.
 
1.6
 
@HamZa So you played 7 years ago? -_-
 
9:46 PM
@Fabien Nope, 2 or 3 years ago. It's still the best IMO lol
 
I liked Source. Great for surfing.
 
Sem
I was the MMORPG freak, now mostly normal MMOs and shooters
 
Heh, I stopped it because it's a waste of time.
 
Sem
Exactly
 
I tell you what will be a great waste of time... GTA V. I'm quitting life once that comes to the PC.
 
9:48 PM
If I spent the time I played in learning/programming I would have been a genius (or something similar)
 
Could say that about a lot of things. I am pretty sure I'd be a polyglot.
 
@Fabien heh, don't start with it. It's like drugs
 
Sem
That's why I started making a 3D game in Unity 3D, a bit of both :P
 
@Sem "I'm debugging this game" :derp:
lol
 
I gotta get Saints Row IV. I liked III.
 
Sem
9:52 PM
Why are all you guys so scared of placing your email in your profile..
@Fabien Preordered it :)
 
@Sem Because people from a certain part of the world will use it as a support system
 
@Sem Why are you hunting our profiles for emails? -_-
 
@PeeHaa hahaha I got many tickets lol //cc @Sem
 
:)
 
Sem
@PeeHaa Nope
 
9:54 PM
yup
:)
 
Sem
@Fabien Because I wondered
 
@Sem Trust me, the moment you close certain questions, you get an email to support them ...
 
Same goes for when you answer a couple of questions
 
yup
 
Sem
@HamZa If that's the case maybe I'll remove it. Hasn't been the case yet.
 
9:55 PM
@Sem I don't see your email at all ...
 
Sem
I don't answer questions :D silly people
 
:P
 
lol
 
Sem
@HamZa On my stackexchange acc
 
dm () php ! net
 
9:56 PM
@Sem, just hunt down everyones Github
 
Sem
@Fabien I'm not that much of a stalker, not yet.
 
@Sem Let's not call it stalking. It's a passionate following.
 
haha
 
Anonymous
night people. stay safe.
 
Night @Simon_eQ
 
9:59 PM
later @Simon_eQ
 
@Simon_eQ gnight
 

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