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11:02 AM
Weekend #VR hack experiment: Job Simulator meets Overwatch. 😜 #gamedev #madewithunity https://t.co/4Bmp0LBgNw
@rightfold Try Perl6! :D
 
11:22 AM
@nwp Oh.... Lel. You're terrible and I should feel terrible :)
@wilx In COBOL of course
 
11:40 AM
@sehe That's not eat your own dog food but more like scat.
 
sci-fi: murder with hacked VR
 
user1804599
@wilx Perl 6, like Python, Perl, and Ruby, is a DSL for build scripts.
 
user1804599
It shouldn't be used for writing compilers.
 
user1804599
Trump is bad, porn caused Trump, therefore porn is bad
 
user1804599
is the message
 
> Fight on UK train after people kept placing bagels on travellers' heads
 
@wilx Guys, read the thing. /cc @rightfold
> But isn’t this claim … ridiculous?

Of course it is. No part of this argument stands up to scrutiny.
 
user1804599
cba, have to work
 
12:07 PM
> This article just is an example of how easy it is to create a valid-sounding theory by forming a conclusion and reverse engineering it, cherry-picking things that back it up from the vast amount of data available. I cynically picked porn and Trump because those are two extremely popular search terms right now, so people are more likely to read it
 
> valid-sounding theory
^ Not sure if I agree with that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes wow nice troll
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow. OK, I shamefully admit I did not read it.
 
I only looked at the pictures.
 
@StackedCrooked More like statement of fact amirite? :D
 
12:23 PM
@wilx FFS right back at ya
 
@sehe /me hangs head in shame
 
@wilx Lel. It was the first thing that caught my eye when scanning it :)
Yeah. Well, it worked :) Article achieved goal
 
@sehe clicks successfully baited
 
The Guardian is very left wing but this was wall played indeed.
well
 
12:39 PM
Wall payed level: Mexico
 
@sehe lmao
 
maybe someone can send trump a VR headset with US/Mexico wall in it?
 
@rightfold no, distrust of hillary caused trump, as did unfair media coverage
 
the only thing you can really be sure of is that USA caused Trump
 
the poor people voted for trump, now trump will screw them over
the irony is, trump isn't doing it intentionally
 
12:57 PM
@Telkitty we assume
 
Trump, for once, has done the media a favour - that's not true, subscription and profit of many news media have skyrocketed since his election
trump has been one of the most money making entertainers of all times
bringing all the dollars to his enemies
 
^ true
 
user1804599
@Mgetz geef chips
 
1:27 PM
Yet another macgine learning powered automation of tedious work/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-02-28/jpmorgan-marshals-an-army-of-developers-to-automate-high-finance
 
user1804599
1:58 PM
Nice, cppzmq is header-only. :)
 
2:10 PM
But, is it any good?
@Telkitty problem with this is that he can use it as fuel, also, it leads the MSM to navel-gaze (they cannot avoid analyzing the ways in which Trump is attacking them, which ... makes them look self-centered)
 
Ven
so, jsonb vs hstore for that postgresql column. I wish people wrote concrete things about what's better in each one
instead of their "in the general case, use X, except in some cases" => which cases??
amazing graph colors, thanks for making sure I can't make sense of your stuff.
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
@sehe Yeah, the C++ binding is very good.
 
have you actually used it? Strange, since it appears you just found out about it being header only
 
user1804599
Yep.
 
user1804599
2:14 PM
But I never knew it was header-only.
 
@Ven lol
@rightfold huh
You just failed to notice it worked
 
user1804599
It depends on object code in libzmq.
 
user1804599
But libzmq only exposes a C API, I thought it also shipped with the C++ API.
 
@Mysticial gender is voluntary!
 
user1804599
The C++ API is a header-only wrapper around the C API. I thought the C API was a wrapper around the C++ API.
 
2:16 PM
@rightfold ah
gender is volatile!
 
user1804599
So now I know that gfortran doesn't implement destructors yet (introduced in 2003, come on) I decided to do the I/O part in C++ instead of Fortran.
 
Instead, contribute fortran destructors to GCC
 
user1804599
I don't want to touch that code base.
 
Shave That Yak!
 
user1804599
It is probably a nightmare.
 
2:20 PM
It is probably a yak
Also, it'll be something different than inventing the same 3 subsets of actually useful language over and over again :)
(I jest, I'm guilty of much the same)
How's work, by the way?
 
user1804599
fun
 
Good! Are you using Fortran for it?
 
user1804599
No, just PureScript
 
@rightfold Wow. That's delightfully organized if that's ALL of the fortran FE
 
user1804599
2:23 PM
Fortran isn't too complex.
 
@thecoshman It's like having Cat back
 
@rightfold Fortran isn't very complex, but COMPLEX is very Fortran.
 
@Mikhail Yet!
:) SCNR
 
2:39 PM
@rightfold I thought they were compiling GCC as C++ these days... apparently I was wrong
 
user1804599
Apparently it's "C++".
 
user1804599
There's a :: here and there.
 
@Mgetz They're compiling it as C++. That doesn't mean it is (really) C++, merely that it's C with prototypes for all the functions, no use of class, delete, new as names of (functions | variables), etc.
 
@JerryCoffin I thought they were actually using some STL to replace internal old style C constructs in new code.
 
@Mgetz Who knows--maybe they are in a few places (but if so, it's clearly not even close to pervasive--yet).
 
2:46 PM
IIRC they did use a few templates.
 
I think they are limiting themselves to C++03 for portability reasons
 
Ven
@rightfold ENOTCUTE
 
3:02 PM
actually GCC is fairly liberal in their C++ conventions
insofar as you can be with that codebase
 
user1804599
@Ven I want to write a Fortran compiler in PureScript.
 
@jaggedSpire trooth
 
Ven
3:18 PM
@rightfold you said Haskell!
I really need to learn PR.
I wonder if I still have the fork of your lisp in java...
 
user1804599
Haskell is awesome.
 
Ven
Nope I don't :(.
 
user1804599
:( it was so nice
 
Ven
you deleted it, you murdrer
 
user1804599
XD
 
Ven
3:20 PM
i probably have it on some hard drive. doesn't mater anyway – why was I thinking of this?
 
user1804599
because it was awesome

like all my code
 
Ven
:S
if I thought you actually care I'd look for it, but I know you don't.
 
user1804599
of course not, it's Java
 
Ven
yes?
 
user1804599
3:27 PM
BEAUTIFUL <3
 
user1804599
<3 working around PHP's shitty scoping issues <3
 
"Detained by US immigration: 'In that moment I loathed America": https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/28/in-that-moment-i-loathed-america-i-loathed-the-entire-country <= A powerful, disturbing account by @therealmemfox
 
nwp
@Abyx looks like mexico has to suffer under trump after all
 
@nwp what?
 
@Luc Quelles sont les recommandations de la cadémie rançaise pour traduire "hardware prefetcher" en rançais ? "pré-rapporteur matériel" ?
 
Ven
3:34 PM
e-toutou
 
nwp
@Abyx trump dislikes immigrants, US immigration does its job to deter them, people hate america, mexico is in america and thus gets loathed too
 
Ven
@rightfold write a fortran backend for PS. ;-)
 
user1804599
I'd rather do the other way around.
 
@nwp illegal immigrants.
 
user1804599
Write Fortran, get JS with PS foreign declaration.
 
3:42 PM
@nwp good lord you geography is bad, Mexico is not New Mexico
 
Ven
@rightfold so Fortran-to-JS in PS?
 
user1804599
:D
 
Ven
well, go ahead
 
user1804599
XD
 
@thecoshman Alt-Mexico!
 
nwp
3:50 PM
more like alt-america
 
@rightfold If you insist on posting links that lead to PHP, at least have the decency to mark them "NSFW" (or really, "NSFL").
@thecoshman Mexico is still part of North America, or at least was the last time checked.
 
I though they were central america
 
@JerryCoffin Ah, but that is not 'america'
 
@ratchetfreak Maps that include central America at all (many don't) generally consider it the countries between Mexico and Columbia (not inclusive on either end though).
 
4:09 PM
Central America is where France has a land border with the Nederlands.
 
@Morwenn Sounded to me like that border ran through Brussels (give or take a kilometer or so).
Obviously I pay more attention to language that politics.
 
Well fuck. Newegg cancelled the memory from my order.
Seems like they oversold their memory and didn't actually have any guards to check if they had any stock left.
 
user1804599
Hmm in Fortran you must explicitly specify that a variable may be pointed to.
 
@Mysticial ...or did like airlines, and assumed that 10% (or whatever) would cancel at the last minute.
 
user1804599
If you don't then you can't create a pointer to it.
 
user1804599
4:17 PM
This is like register in C.
 
@JerryCoffin Maybe. They still have 8 x 16GB sets for cheap. I'm thinking I might just get one of those instead and put the other 4 sticks in my Haswell box to make it 96GB.
But then I'll be left with 4 x 8 GB which I'm not entirely sure what to do with.
 
@Mysticial Sell it at an inflated price, obviously.
Wait a minute. No--better idea. Give it away to somebody who needs it (i.e., me)!
 
Another thing I'd want to consider is the Skylake build coming later this year. If memory is gonna be so expensive by then, I might as well - take a larger position now.
 
I'll start a "not for profit corporation", so you can write it off on taxes as a charitable donation... :-)
@Mysticial "Larger position". You've been hanging around traders way too much.
 
"A software engineer is detained for several hours by U.S. Customs — and given a test to prove he’s an engineer"
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/software-engineer-detained-several-hours-us-customs-given-fairchild
 
nwp
4:24 PM
@ProblemSlover that one?
 
@nwp you got the tool which automatically checks if there are similar posts/ duplicates,. huh?
 
5:00 PM
learn something new and awful every day cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
@AldwinCheung tu connais Philippe Laglue de Tours ? y’a un projet d’archive par un fan
 
@LucDanton O_O I didn't know banishment was a thing.
 
nwp
5:20 PM
@ProblemSlover no, I'm just so bored that I actually read what people write here
> Russian invaders

Because of military aggression of Russia in Ukraine, the QtRPT project doesn’t give any consulting help to the users living in Russia.
And also we doesn’t accept any councils and recommendations from Russian users.

Any cooperation with the Russian users will be resumed only after a full conclusion of the troops from Ukraine and Crimea liberation.
source /cc @Abyx
 
@nwp hm. so this project is maintained by ukrainians
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It mostly isn't. Most US states directly prohibit most forms of banishment (either intrastate or interstate). Even where it's not directly prohibited, it's rarely even considered, at least directly. OTOH, there are quite a few places that laws saying that sex offenders (and sometimes drug dealers) can't live within X distance of an elementary school, and things like that.
 
@ProblemSlover Those are not questions I can answer if I hadn't slept for 24 hours.
And the answer to the first one depends on the exact definition of "balanced".
 
@nwp lol
I think you might easily guess the amount of fucks I and other Russians give
 
5:35 PM
In a fair number of cases, it turns out that elementary schools are close enough together that this effectively banishes people from relatively large geographical areas. In at least one case, however, it was thrown out by a court because it was effectively almost banishment from the state, which the state's constitution didn't allow.
 
@nwp the link redirects to google btw
 
nwp
@Abyx Wow, they must really hate you guys. Try using a (non-russian)proxy.
 
@nwp yeah I could but meh
 
@JerryCoffin what state was that in?
 
state of disrepair
 
5:38 PM
@johnathon I'd have to check to be sure, but I think Tennessee.
 
@JerryCoffin Tennessee's constitution permits exile, and Maryland's permits banishment for corruption.
@JerryCoffin but your correct, appeals courts typically overturn banishment cases
 
@johnathon My memory was wrong? Next you'll be trying to claim that I'm human or something...
 
@JerryCoffin i was saying you was right
 
@johnathon Apparently wrong about which state that particular case was in though.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm still trying to find the case, but to my knowledge that's the only 2 states that permit banishment
@JerryCoffin and the only 2 states that the punishment would have been given in the first place.
 
5:45 PM
@Mysticial hm?
 
French official: police sharpshooter accidentally opens fire at President Hollande's speech; 2 slightly injured. http://apne.ws/2m9KSU5
 
@johnathon No, the case in question was about a law where (certain types of) criminals couldn't live within N feet of a school (or perhaps bus stop--details are fuzzy), and it turned out that was essentially the entire state (and when questioned, those who'd written the law made it clear that this was their basic intent).
 
Ell
@Abyx whoopsie daisy
 
@ProblemSlover I mean like does a balanced tree have to have exactly the same depth on each side? Or perhaps same depth within 2 like the RBTs? And do they have to be minimal?
 
@JerryCoffin I know. That actually sounds like something the legislation we had here back in the 90's would have done. The mentality here regarding those individuals was and still IS a bit extreme. I've not got much compassion for them either. We still have laws saying that offenders of that nature can't live within N feet of a school , library, or other place where children gather
 
5:51 PM
@Abyx must have been a refugee
 
@sehe He fired. Anybody who ran was immediately a refugee...
 
VIDEO: Moment police sharpshooter opens #fire during #Hollande #speech https://on.rt.com/84e0 https://t.co/1Zq4rs9ZZj
 
@Mysticial You have to allow some imbalance. Otherwise, you can't (for example) have a binary tree of four nodes at all.
 
^ NO FUCKS GIVEN
 
user1804599
I see clang has snippets of standardese in its source.
 
user1804599
5:53 PM
Why is that not a copyright issue?
 
@JerryCoffin I guess the "slightly" injured means his boss gave him a black eye
 
@rightfold Fair use.
 
@JerryCoffin Was the case your thinking of revolving around bus stop locations?
@JerryCoffin if so that was Georgia in 2007
 
@johnathon Sounds about right--like I said, I can't remember exactly what it was, but bus stops was one of things I remembered as a possibility.
 
Good morning
 
6:01 PM
@JerryCoffin Georgia's transit system isn't state wide so I'm a little confused how they could argue that the case was effectively banishment from the entire state. The thing that overturned it though was that the legislators did confirm that banishment was the intent, and GA's constitution doesn't permit it.
 
user1804599
> Citing standards or including extracts is encouraged as long as acknowledgements and any necessary royalty arrangements are concluded.
 
@johnathon Imagine that. Legislators fairly openly admitting that their intent was to break the law. No, that's not sarcasm: open admission of intent really is rare (and refreshing).
@Shoe And a fine morning to you too, good Shoe!
 
@JerryCoffin Well, following the stint with Hollywood portraying to the general public that they banned Ray Charles....... To be fair, I've always liked those GA gentlemen LOL
 
@JerryCoffin :)
 
6:10 PM
@JerryCoffin did you know that GA still contests the state line trying to get access to the TN river?
 
@johnathon I had no idea. Doing a quick look, it appears that at least technically, they have a solid case (I.e., the current boundary is clearly not what was originally specified).
 
@JerryCoffin Yea. That particular area though isn't wilderness anymore and there's not really a way for them to have access to the river and not consume a rather large portion of TN's population as well.
@JerryCoffin at least not from what I've seen. It's only an hr away from me.
 
@johnathon Yeah--it looks like a few years ago, they even tried to settle the dispute by letting Tennessee keep virtually all the land, and give them only a little chunk that's not populated (but does give access to the river/lake), but Tennessee apparently just ignored that, so it just died.
 
6:36 PM
@JerryCoffin Was Vance Dennis's name on that?
 
user1804599
@Ven I implemented the first check!
 
Ven
@rightfold \o/
 
user1804599
That there is exactly one main program. 😂
 
> Cabal hell
> Stack purgatory
 
Ven
@LucDanton stack has been pretty nice so far tbh
 
6:41 PM
I would have tried but I don’t have the storage space
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked congrats
 
uegh, my top case broke off
fucking drainage pits
or whatever those things are called
 
@JerryCoffin That would still have taken Look out mountian, east ridge, and st elmo
 
@johnathon Not sure--I closed that page already, and I'm too lazy to look for it again.
 
@JerryCoffin well if they move the parallel it would also consume part of North Carolina
@JerryCoffin GA has a very up hill battle in the matter because of both of those points.
 
6:59 PM
There, I did it. I succumbed to impatience and desire to upgrade my existing box and dropped the order for the 8x16GB DDR4. That probably won't arrive until next week.
 
What was it's ETA?
 
No idea. But I got an email this morning saying that Newegg oversold the DDR4 which I tried to buy.
So I didn't actually manage to "short-circuit" the demand. My latencies were too high.
The next best thing was a similarly priced 8x16GB set. Which nobody would buy for Zen since it only has 4 slots. But I can use the other 4 sticks in my current box.
So most likely, I'm just gonna pull 4x8 out of my current rig to get the Zen build up and running this weekend. Then I'll do the ram swap next week.
I can also use the opportunity to get test out 128GB of memory in my current box.
I'll have enough to do this weekend that I won't need the full 64GB of memory before next week anyway.
Since most of my early tests will be CPU-only.
 
Good planning.
 
Then if and when I find a good 4x16GB DDR4 deal, I can go ahead and do another 2-way memory swap to put the 8x16GB that just ordered all into the my current box to permanently run it with 128GB. And put the new set in the Zen box.
I'll be left with my original 8x8GB DDR4 which probably won't have much of a purpose other than to test mobos or for backup.
 
iv'e got two sets of 2X8 ddr 3 laying around, thought of doing a couple low end builds but it's full height ram
 
7:11 PM
But because of this DDR4 bullshit. I'm definitely overrunning my original $1500 budget for the Zen box. But whatever. That's life.
Now if Newegg bounces my order for the 8x16GB I just ordered. I'm gonna be really pissed.
 
@Mysticial TBH i didn't really care about budget when i built this machine. I knew what i wanted and that's what i got. The only thing I wasn't sure about was the cooling solution, I've got a noctua nh-15 sitting in the box that's collecting dust because the behemoth won't fit in the case and regardless I'd not put that much weight stress on a vertically mounted MB.
 
In this case, I'm okay with overrunning my budget because I really haven't spend any money on hardware in the past 2 years. And I'm expecting DDR4 to get even more expensive this year and I know I'll be needing more DDR4 later this year.
 
Ell
okay I'm being simple
A = {2, 3, 5} can be represented as 01110100 apparently
I don't see it but it must be obvious :V
 
@Mysticial excuse me, NH-D14
 
Ell
00110100 would make sense
 
7:23 PM
@johnathon ?
 
@Mysticial the noctua cooler i have that i'm not using is a NH-D14, not a NH-D15
 
oh
I've learned to hate tower heatsinks because they just get in the way. And they tend to bend/put a lot of stress on the mobo if they don't mount into the case.
 
it'd be great for an ultra quiet desktop build
but it's not something I think I'd want in a tower at all, regardless if it fit. Perhaps with some extra mounting though it wouldn't be too bad.
and that's what set me behind schedule on my build when i did it, because I had to get an appropriate cooler
it's a very high quality piece though.
but to use it you have to use short ram that doesn't cool as well.
 
7:40 PM
Knowing myself, I'm gonna end up running all 128GB in my current box just because I can brag about it. And my Zen box which I had intended to run 64GB the whole time will only get 32GB until I can find a good deal for 4 x 16GB sticks.
 
7:50 PM
@Ell It would?
 
Ell
@Shoe yeah, the bits position represents the integer from left to right
00110100
01234567
maybe it's a table
 
Oh I see
 
Ell
*typo
that was kinda ironic
 
/cc @Mysticial clearly didn't read the code in the question before answering
 
FGITW fail.
lol
 
@Mysticial the only reason I swapped my 2x8gb sticks into my desktop was netflix has a memory leak
and it buys me enough time to close the app
 
8:35 PM
@Mysticial FGITW ?
 
8:53 PM
sleeping in the chair is such a challenge :/
 
86
Q: What is FGITW and SCITE?

Alex AngasI only read Meta every so often but I've seen lots of talk about SCITE and FGITW. I have no idea what these are! Can someone please define and explain these abbreviations?

 
https://www.wsj.com/articles/uber-fires-top-software-engineer-recently-hired-from-google-1488230777
Can't belive WSJ would bother to write an article about such stuff
 
9:20 PM
So they shipped my ram out already even though I ordered 4 hours ago. But it's coming from New Jersey. Not sure if it'll make it by Friday.
 
@rightfold What the hell is wrong with his pool software? youtu.be/xhj5er1k6GQ?t=22 The rest is quite neat though.
 
@ProblemSlover I wonder if Uber's trying to compensate for their horrible workplace culture.
 
Isn't newegg usually reliable when it comes to shipping? Or was this a duck against NJ? =)
 
@CaptainGiraffe They're reliable, but NJ isn't exactly next to Chicago. So it'll take an extra day or two.
OTOH, my video card is shipping out from CA today and it says it should be here by Friday.
 
@Mysticial fed ex or ups?
 
9:33 PM
Both. Half the order is coming from UPS, the other half Fedex.
 
I've not personally had bad luck with either, and as things go you should get your order by the ETA.
 
At the very least, I'm not building anything Thursday night.
 
well, building sucks when you can put it all together but you just can't turn it on
(huge cpu cooler that wouldn't clear the ram)
 
I still have no ETAs for the cooler and the SSD. The cooler is the most important part. I can build it with just the cooler, mobo, and CPU. Everything else I can pull out of something I already have.
 
@Mysticial My server RAM arrived today
 
9:49 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Perhaps you could appreciate these numbers as well. dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3684302/…
 
I also need the PSU to arrive by Friday because I'm not gonna pull a PSU out of my existing boxes. That's too much work.
 
what psu did ya get?
 
This is the 2nd version of my list: pcpartpicker.com/user/mysticial/saved/NFfkLk
The 1st version had a different cooler, but I had to change it because of the AM4 issue.
Now the memory is changing too.
I ended up ordering this memory instead: newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232427
Holy shit. Are you shitting me? That sold out as well?
Newegg says it "shipped" my order already. They better not be lying.
 
10:08 PM
Why would they be
 
Assuming Newegg did ship it and I'm getting my memory, I'm fucking glad I didn't wait until getting off work to order it.
It's almost as if I should be doing HFT on Newegg.
 
@Mysticial i opted for the best supply I could get. I also plan to (in the future) SLI this thing. evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=220-P2-0850-X1
 
@johnathon 850W is probably overkill for me since I don't run high-end graphics.
 
10:31 PM
@sehe I have a tracking # now. So I think I'm safe.
 
I already thought you were :)
 
Geez, this whole DDR4 shortage + Zen launch really doesn't play well together.
 
user1804599
@sehe And how is your job going
 
Still the same. Ups and downs
Where did we chat last time? You ditched discord IIRC
 
user1804599
Twitter, planned WhatsApp
 
10:34 PM
Oh yeah. Twitter still exists
 
@sehe Did you really have to remind me? I find its continued existence depressing.
 
@JerryCoffin hey that joke fits 140(ish) characters very well
 
@LucDanton I really wish it were a joke.
 
Depressing jokes
The only jokes that are in vogue lately
 
> You just explained German to a native German. Not even we have a word for that!
 
10:56 PM
@Mysticial that is a beast
 
> Hello, my name is Scott. I often confuse O(n) and whatever the other correct thing is. I can write a for loop, though.
There is some hefty irony in that. I BET he can write nested for loops, even
 
@sehe How much are you betting (and who's the subject of the bet?)
 
I'm betting an eye.
Humor is the subject.
 
@Mgetz No it isn't. It's "just another" Zen rig. Not even a fancy video car.
And a small one too. mATX.
The "beast" will probably be what happens to my current 5960X box.
 
@sehe Careful or the Graeae will catch you. Rumor has it they weren't strong on humor.
 
11:03 PM
I haven't heard of them in a while
 
user1804599
@sehe There is a nice mnemonic for the symbols.
 
@sehe Being a wasp, I'm naturally a follower of Pemphredo.
 
user1804599
O has the "dash" on the top (in calligraphy), Θ has it in the center, and Ω has it at the bottom.
 
@rightfold I don't care about the symbols. I'm afraid of devs who can write for loops and not remember big-O notation
@rightfold nice
 
I'm staring to write getters and setters, does that mean my code is fucked?
 
11:08 PM
probably
 
Is OOP just a bad idea in general? Because the object will mutate its internal state in some unpredictable way... basically I have settings object, and I'm using getters and setters to make sure the settings are never invalid...
 
> closed as primarily opinion-based
 
So, if I have a POD type and I want to break every time a member is changed in anyof the many instances of the structure, is that something a debugger can do?
 
11:19 PM
I don't think its possible, it would need to make a synthetic assignment operator, which would require a recompile.
 
You could unmap write-access to the page that the object lands on. Then catch all segfaults and filter out the ones that go to that page and to that object. Record the change, make the change and pass end the signal handler.
 
That is an interesting idea, but then you need to hook the construction of the object...
 
@Mikhail I guess for once class-wide operator new has a justification
 
even then you have objects on the stack
I think overloading assignment and recompiling might be a more practical way.
 
@Mikhail I was half-serious
 
11:29 PM
Have you considered using Java?
 
Is that a kinda of Javascript?
 
@Mikhail Probably.
 
@Mikhail That's nothing to do with OOP, that's just you using it wrong.
 
Is maintaining an object's validity through getters and setters wrong?
 
11:47 PM
not inherently
but it's probably a sign you're doing it wrong if you have a bunch of them
immutability's better
 
Ell
Do I remember correctly that there is an output iterator which prints delimiters?
like printing a, b, c from the vector {"a", "b", "c"}?
oh hey
 
Ell
lol
inserting a backspace seems real dodgy
 
Bonus points if its implemented like that
 

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