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5:04 PM
:D
 
great im already getting upvotes for opengl docs
i guess that means my edit was substantial enough
fuck i shouldve eaten before drinking so much beer
im sofucking wasted
 
I suggest chugging a jar of pickle juice
Won't help with being drunk, but why not :P
 
@Mysticial you live in the US.
@BartekBanachewicz an "absfinent" is someone who doesn't use SFINAE.
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@Mysticial I think it's all ok.
 
@sehe no, why
 
5:09 PM
@Darkrifts I guess water and loads of it is what i need
to be alive tomorrow at least
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes We only get shot. Seems like where you're at, people are getting blown up. I suppose the ladder hurts less if it takes you out immediately.
 
Or axed, or shot.
Quite the variety.
 
What about trucks driving into stuff
 
Ell
UK summer :V
 
5:12 PM
@BartekBanachewicz even islamists don't give a damn about poland
 
> adaptive framework to understand data centre dynamics
 
Things are pretty fine here.
 
I thought that machine learning was all about not understanding things
 
Police are investigating the events and that's it.
No martial law or any such bullshit.
 
Irrelevant image
 
5:13 PM
@Abyx which, alongside not being hit by natural disasters, is a pretty strong reason for living in poland
 
@BartekBanachewicz Apart from being invaded by Nazis and such
 
@Darkrifts chatting with idiots on Lounge<c++>
 
Berlin, this Saturday ^
 
@Darkrifts last time that happened was 1939 you know
 
@BartekBanachewicz I guess that's why many poles migrated from it when they had a chance
 
5:14 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes the guy on the left looks sad
@Abyx maybe that's also why so many come back
 
@BartekBanachewicz he just wants to get home
 
@Abyx besides, it depends on your profession. Being an IT person in Poland is pretty great.
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's great everywhere
 
1939, 2016, whats the difference :P
 
@Darkrifts 67 years.
 
5:16 PM
lol
Touche
 
@Abyx actually the gap between IT workers in Poland and say US I think would make IT workers more privileged here
which some would say is not a good thing
 
Check your privilege
 
@BartekBanachewicz nah, it's just that the other people are poor
 
@Abyx it's always relative
they are poor but food and accomodation is cheap so vOv
sure electronics are expensive
 
but yeah, remote work from a poor country is the best
 
5:17 PM
but in day to day life, it doesn't really matter
@Abyx 'xactly
 
maybe I should move to Poland too
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes super rare and not really dangerous
 
> not really dangerous
 
5:18 PM
after we annex it
 
@Abyx just FYI last house I was looking at was about $150k for 350msq
 
(read: never)
 
dunno about russia prices
 
Not super rare at all, but yeah not worrisome.
 
I suppose center of Moscow can be quite expensive
 
5:19 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what's msq?
 
ah, right
 
Microsoft qubits obviously
 
@BartekBanachewicz IRTA Russian princes
 
why'd you need such a big house?
@BartekBanachewicz omg that's so cheap
 
5:21 PM
@Abyx because I like space and it had two garages
 
Welp, figured out what I did wrong with the ^2 operation in FOS-X. I was thinking if a did [2] ^2 ^2 ^2 it would be [2] -> [4] -> [8] -> [16], but it was actually [2] -> [4] -> [16] -> [256]
See kids, this is why you memorize your own documentation
 
my reqs are 2 garages, at least 200m area, a reasonable garden and it'd be best if it wasn't a series house
@R.MartinhoFernandes is @Abyx a prince
 
welp anyways it's not possible to have a house near your workplace, e.g. near center of city
 
@Darkrifts stop writing terrible code
@Abyx my workplace isn't near the center
 
It's not terrible, I just forgot that the ^2 operation was applied that way :P
 
5:26 PM
and always sitting in home working remotely is boring
 
it's more like a future center
but yeah houses closer to the center are gonna be more expensive
if you don't mind driving it's fine though
@Abyx OTOH you can go windsurf every other day
 
@BartekBanachewicz how long does it take to get there from home?
 
@Abyx I live faaaar away and it takes me about 40 minutes.
but I technically live in a different city, since I work in Gdańsk and live in Gdynia
it would be less if I had a faster motorcycle :P
the quickest I was able to get home was about 13 minutes in the middle of the night
but let's just say it wasn't exactly in line with traffic regulations
 
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz bartek don't do >= mach 1 on a public road thx
 
5:31 PM
yeah, maybe it's good to live in or near a not-so-big city
 
I just need a faster bike
k time to buy ksp
 
Is @gnzlb not around?
Ah. I had an apple-clang bug he might like to look at.
 
also I unlocked 2nd layout of the Mantis ship yesterday
@набиячлэвэли łoł
 
@набиячлэвэли Yeah.
apple-clang keeps introducing failures into the original clang codebase.
I'm not sure why.
 
5:40 PM
> >apple
 
apple makes great software
the main argument people have against them is that their software is trecherous, but not that it's bad
 
@Downvoter Why the downvote? — Downvoter 58 secs ago
wow that delicious coincidence
 
@BartekBanachewicz They just make crappy overpriced hardware and nobody else makes software worth using
 
@Puppy yes I know your bad opinion already
I'm sure you've never owned a single Apple device
 
Ell
the integration between their crappy software is good though
 
5:44 PM
I have
 
@Ell the hardware is also really good
 
Ell
but if you don't want to do things the apple way then you're outta luck mostly
 
I've owned an iPhone, an iPod Touch, and I use various Apple devices professionally at work.
 
@Ell I think that's FUD
 
Ell
It's just my personal experience
 
5:45 PM
all Apple products run variants of Unix
 
Ell
it doesn't matter really
 
when you get root access on them you can do pretty much everything
 
Ell
it's not about that though
if you want to use apple's software
like iTunes for instance
 
then you use it
 
Ell
you have to do music synchronisation the apple way
 
5:46 PM
if you don't, then you don't
shocking eh
I don't want to use iTunes so I don't use it
 
Ell
my brother has a macbook pro, an android phone & a windows desktop
 
@Ell same here
It think all of those devices perform best in their respective categories
 
Ell
Synchronising music on the mac via the internet is quite impossible
 
bullshit
but go on
 
Ell
Well, he doesn't want to use icloud or w/e it's called
 
5:47 PM
@Ell getting linux to work is quite impossible
 
Ell
basically gave up in the end
@BartekBanachewicz if you say so
 
@Ell ditto.
 
Ell
Well, how would you do it?
the itunes sync thing
 
I use Spotify.
 
5:48 PM
2 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I don't want to use iTunes so I don't use it
 
Got locked out of my OVH account. Somehow.
WTF.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes whistles
 
Ell
I use spotify too
 
so what's the problem again
 
Can't find my TOTP secret.
 
5:49 PM
I have Spotify, ST and bash
that fulfills my requirements
 
Ell
ST = sublime text?
 
Ell
I have Spotify, emacs & fish
(& chromium & i3)
they satisfies mine
 
right you can't be a hacker without those
gotta keep up the image
plz keep the star
5
 
Ell
It isn't about image
 
5:50 PM
I am sure you think I am going to believe you
 
right you can't be a hipster without those
 
> hipser
 
I think this discussion is rolling down
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I think you believe me but you're pretending you're not to bait me or something
so maybe you're genuine
I can't tell vOv
 
Wait, is @Ell arguing with Drunk @Bartek?
 
Ell
5:51 PM
but you seem to do it all the time
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes teehee
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes he's drunk? :P
 
@Ell no I think that unless you show proof of that setup working I think it's pure BS
 
Ell
It's a tad early isn't it?
 
59 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
I'm drunk. AMA
 
Ell
5:52 PM
oh lol
@BartekBanachewicz what bit about the set up do you think is any different to what you use?
 
@Ell configuring and maintaining it takes too much time
so much that you're not left with a lot to do actual productive work
 
Ell
Not at all, I haven't reconfigured i3,fish, etc. basically since installation
 
which is great on its own
 
Ell
updating funtoo does take time
 
i mean you're having fun and stuff
but the thing is
 
Ell
5:53 PM
but not much really
 
one day you stop being a hacker and start wanting to deliver things
and that's the point where you get rid of all the bullshit
 
Jul 22 at 9:32, by Bartek Banachewicz
I wonder if I should not start it for longer or start failing now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's another issue altogether
which is programming being terrible
maybe that's the next step
you don't need a lot of setup to despair
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Meh I honestly don't understand what you think is such bullshit about this?
Do you think using vim is BS also?
 
@Ell not much really. It's more about the attitude
@Ell it kinda is
 
Ell
5:55 PM
Ah okay
 
learning vim isn't worth it
 
He's just jealous.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do you mean Linux + emacs or Spotify? :P
 
@Downvoter no idea what you mean that I mean
 
@Downvoter hello
 
5:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I could install linux and emacs if I wanted to, really
not sure what's there to be jelous about
that you can type <your package manager> install emacs?
 
Ell
haha
 
@BartekBanachewicz Setup being too tedious to maintain
@milleniumbug Heelloo
 
well that's gotta be like a fucking life achievement
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hence the jealousy.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what
jealousy is about things you want but can't get
I can use linux and vim. I choose not to.
 
5:57 PM
You get a lot of butthurt from it, though.
 
I just like insulting people that disagree with me
especially when I'm drunk
 
Ell
That's not very nice :P
 
I never claimed I'm nice
 
Ell
It's probably not wise to admit it though
 
mostly I don't give a fuck. Life is about being happy. Sometimes making other people happy makes me happy. Sometimes making them sad makes me happy.
 
5:58 PM
ITT @BartekBanachewicz realises his true feelings
 
Ell
Now you can't even claim ignorance :P
 
It's all about not being poor and having control over everyone else.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You whine a lot for someone who "doesn't give a fuck".
 
@BartekBanachewicz "[...] according to it [The Lounge], I'm a terrible person" Confirmed.
 
So that your own personal happiness can trump everything else
 
5:59 PM
> trump
 
Writing and updating these benchmarks feels like such a chore.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you activated my Trump card
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes getting an extrovert drunk ends that way
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you TRIGGERED
 
You whine all the time.
 
vOv
it's all about how you move on with life
sure whining doesn't make your progress but it's also relatively harmless
 
Ell
6:01 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I think people whine when they don't have anything else better to talk about
 
it's like swearing when you hit your hand with a hammer
 
Ell
I know that's why I usually whine
 
@Ell that might be spot on, but since you're picking up the whine it works for the moment vOv
 
How to not give a fuck about X, in 3 easy steps:
1. Don't bring up X
2. Don't make notice when people bring up X
3. Don't even bother saying you don't give a fuck unless asked for your opinion on X
 
Ell
^
 
6:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes @Ell brought it up
welp sure I can also not chat at all
that would be ultimate display of not giving a fuck
I suppose not living would be the ultimate way
but then again world would quickly became boring
I'm not yet sure if my life has any grand purpose. But in the chance it doesn't, I decide to get on with it anyway.
I can throw in a few useless fucks to give, why not.
but really, why are we even discussing that
who cares about my life besides me
 
Ell
it's more of a monologue at this point
 
hence
we actually talked a lot about tech while drinking at work
how node.js is taking the market because it has the qualities that matter
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'promisfinuous' has a really dirty ring to it
 
> Freikörperkultur
 
Also the Monadic Warsaw ekmett's talk is here
 
6:09 PM
@JohanLarsson lol what
 
triggered by > dirty ring
 
heh he implements MonadTrans like that's obvious
damn it I'm so mad I missed it
{-# LANGUAGE PolyKinds, DataKinds, ConstraintKinds #-} ...
 
Realized that corewar in FOS-X could be easily won by simply outliving a program that isn't infinite with 1 instruction
 
he's like an alien
 
do any of you know enigmagroup.org?
 
6:16 PM
For us that don't, mind explaining what it is :P
 
@Darkrifts provides dummy security holes to exploit, fix, etc.
@Darkrifts actually pretty fun but it's been going down the last year...
 
@mil you pinged me?
 
@Darkrifts no one donated so they require you to pay for some challenges now... utter crap
 
I think I will have to get sober to watch this talk
this is just pure crazy
 
6:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz why
 
@BartekBanachewicz You should try wrapping your head around my ideas while drunk :P
 
@thepiercingarrow You can see the pings in your SO notifications
 
Might actually make sense
 
@Downvoter click on the link, watch first 5 minutes and tell me how much do you understand
@Darkrifts what do you happen to be idea-ing
 
6:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz believe it or not, im still watching, close to 10 min
 
A completely rewritten assembly to be interpreted by certain software :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz i dont understand a whit but i kept playing just for the sake of it
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The "best" part is that all of these have to be written for every exception specification
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes not unless you actually have to write java
 
i.e. if you want to have a function passed in you have to write a functional interface, unless there happens to be a functional interface that matches
 
Ell
6:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes at least you don't have to explicitly use them I suppose
 
C# lambdas masterrace
 
statically typed requires a type declaration of some sort
 
@MichaelBen-David Yeah, in C++ this can be std::function<return_type(argument_types)>
 
@MichaelBen-David no. type inference exists.
 
@MichaelBen-David auto in C++ doesn't exist, var in C# doesn't exist, Hindley-Milner is a dream I had last night
 
6:28 PM
Stipulated for auto and type inference in C++ sorry. Not sure var in C# works at the same level.
 
it does
 
Ell
yeah I'm lost 10 minutes into that talk
 
Java is at a statically typed disadvantage from a generic point of view due to type erasure. I should have qualified my statement further.
 
Ell
I think he could have been better prepared
 
Java's type system sucks
 
6:32 PM
@MichaelBen-David That's one of the problems, yes
 
@Ell I think he's overstating the audience capabilities
when I was at monadic warsaw last time most of the audience gasped at the mere mention of "monad transformer"
@набиячлэвэли Java sucks in general
 
Ell
I think he probably is doing that too
but also I don't think he is a great speaker really
 
Maybe. He knows a lot though.
 
Ell
I'm sure he does
 
I mean at a certain level you can't really tell whether the speaker is good or not.
He certainly lost me, so I'm pretty sure he also lost kinda everyone in the room.
 
Ell
6:36 PM
Well, if you understand the talk for the first 8 minutes and get lost within the 9th minute
 
@BartekBanachewicz why do you regret then to not have been there
 
@Downvoter because I could've talked to Edward directly
 
Ell
I think that indicates the pacing isn't quite right
anyway
gotta do some maths
 
@набиячлэвэли But everything is an object :o
Except the few things that aren't.
 
6:45 PM
I just bit myself inside my mouth ;_;
 
biting yourself :/
 
@wilx rip in riperonis
 
@wilx Try to bit yourself outside your mouth now.
Or to bit yourself inside your moth.
 
;_;
 
Or to bit bit yourself inside my mouth.
 
6:48 PM
@Morwenn That sounds kinky. :D
 
Kinda :p
 
@Morwenn vore? kinky...
 
@Wilx, how about you byte yourself now :P
 
ksp installed
i oficially cease to have a life
 
PANIC THE KRAKEN IS HERE
> oficially
 
6:50 PM
@Darkrifts That would be eight time worse! I am not a masochist. :)
 
How about a dword then :P
 
I really like the vocals at the beginning :)
 

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