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8:00 PM
@Morwenn are you molesting statues
 
well I don't consider this an insult
it seems more like an obvious fact.
 
@jaggedSpire It isn't me D:
 
@Morwenn oh well then
 
it's like stating that you can't fly.
 
@jaggedSpire Maybe its into BSDM
 
8:01 PM
@Borgleader You can read the guilty pleasure in the eyes.
 
@Borgleader from that facial expression I'd certainly say so
 
@Borgleader you mean MSDN
 
no one's that filthy
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think you mean MSN.
 
8:02 PM
You like them wizz, don't ya?
 
gimme all them toolbars
 
Also parse custom animated emoticons in the fucking middle of words please.
 
that's horrendous
skype does that as well
 
Seriously?
 
yep
Skype is awful
 
8:03 PM
That would explain why they bought it.
Skype smileys are aweful too.
 
"I've heard people say that Trump is the president the US deserves :p" @Morwenn yes he deserves it :P
 
Someone get the gif.
 
what gid @Nooble ?
 
post the gif and I will kick you.
no gifs.
 
i dont do gifs anways.. im more of a viedo person :P
 
8:10 PM
> viedo
hmm let's see
where did I end with my Vector
 
@Puppy what, you can't disable animations in your browser?
 
video
i think thats how you spell it
i hate that word
 
@milleniumbug giggles it's just like 3D printers
 
@milleniumbug don't know don't care
 
hmm right I leak memory
I probably shouldn't
oh and constructing it doesn't work
oh well
 
8:12 PM
@Puppy Are you terrified of gifs or something
 
it's in the rules, no gifs.
 
the rules are meaningless nonsense anyway
 
Wow , the puppy is a little grumpy today
 
Except the two special gifs.
Sparkly Bjarne and the PSA.
 
8:14 PM
no gifs, no exceptions.
 
@Nooble ye
@Puppy how does it feel when your moderation job in this room is reduced to something a 3-line js snippet could do
Does it give you purpose in life?
 
don't really care.
 
inb4 animated .png
 
sshh
 
nwp
@Morwenn do those exist? I thought they failed to specify that.
 
8:17 PM
I don't think they exist.
 
Jan 16 '15 at 13:59, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@DroidDev Only two gifs are kosher here.
 
Eh, looks like they actually do exist.
So technically speaking, this isn't aginst the rules:
 
1 message moved to bin
 
lol
 
8:19 PM
@Morwenn lol being a smartass about the ruls
 
6 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
the rules are meaningless nonsense anyway
told you
the rules are so vague they could literally be replaced with "whoever has the RO privileges can use them in whatever way they want"
 
nwp
hmm, turns out you cannot star binned messages
 
yep
that's pretty much what they are, more or less.
has been since the room started.
 
did it animate?
 
@JohanLarsson not for me
 
8:20 PM
@Morwenn lol srsly
 
nwp
was animated for me
 
It did for me, bouncing ball
 
@Puppy mmm, I can see why you were whining so fucking much when you lost the RO status now
 
I seem to recall that it mostly concerned not having an italic name anymore.
 
maybe chrome is afraid of puppy
 
nwp
8:21 PM
the ball wasn't chromatic enough
 
and also I seem to recall that there were literally years between losing and regaining it during which I didn't complain at all.
 
if that's what you want to believe
 
it sure is.
 
The Puppy is moderator of this chat?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not to defend the puppy or anything, but you seem to be whining about this more than he did when he lost his RO status.
 
8:24 PM
I've definitely noticed that whenever you disagree, you whine a lot.
 
@Mysticial I'm always whining about RO powers
 
a lot more in one evening than I did in the entire duration
 
retarded moderation is my pet peeve
 
nwp
@user5600875 everyone with an italic name
 
Or a blue name.
 
8:26 PM
@nwp so the Mystical dude i never saw is Mod. ?
 
yep.
 
nwp
@user5600875 yup
 
I am the OP here
 
well guys time to meet "Your God"- Linus Torvalds
 
8:27 PM
Linus is dumb
 
user406009
@user5600875 Well, the technical term is Room Owner. They are not Stack Overflow Mods.
 
hahahaha ok
 
user406009
ROs actually have very little power.
 
Did he really just say Linus is dumb ?
yea. Room Owners
what i meant sorry
 
Flame war! Here we go! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!
 
nwp
8:28 PM
in this lounge everyone is dumb except yourself
 
@user5600875 Linus is dumb.
 
:/
 
user406009
@Mysticial It's not a real flame war without Linus though!
 
Remember: The goal of a moderator is not to moderate, but to escalate.
12
 
@BartekBanachewicz haha lol
 
8:29 PM
@Mysticial sounds awfully like US international policy
 
i wish i can keep that message lo
 
@user5600875 you can frame it or tatoo it on the side of your dick
> 23Skidoo added snoyberg to haskell/cabal a day ago
OMG
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz ?
 
@Lalaland there's been this whole drama
about cabal devs not wanting stack on haskell.org
 
@BartekBanachewicz Chill out.
 
8:32 PM
and vice versa
@user5600875 just because I am stating obvious facts like dumbness of Linus doesn't mean I'm not chilled.
 
@BartekBanachewicz ok man its not really a fact but an oppinon
People surely call you dum @BartekBanachewicz and other people call you smart
so its an oppinon thing
 
You never know. He may be able to objectively prove Linus' unintelligence.
 
he's provided plenty of evidence to support this opinion
 
@Nooble i doubt it, but it may be possible
 
@BartekBanachewicz example?
BartekBanachewicz : "Example #1 : He Founded Example"
 
8:35 PM
5 minutes in and still no reference to Hitler. Come on guys... This is getting boring.
 
Founded Linux*
 
nwp
@user5600875 you can edit your posts
 
You guys are worse than hitler /cc @Mysticial
2
 
@user5600875 every single hate message from linux mailing lists
 
Fuck i always forget that
 
8:36 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what's that all about? i'm fond of seeing how good devs are antisocial bastards
 
@BartekBanachewicz you mean he hates a lot of people?
well thats common .. i hate almost everyone too
 
No.
I hate a lot of people.
 
lots of people hate lots of people
 
But I don't talk shit to people that contribute to my project for no reason.
 
i learned one lesson today
the subtle art of not giving a fuck is hard to master and has subtleties but is very useful
 
8:37 PM
ChemiCalChe : "Hitler is a coward"
 
@user5600875 you can mention people
 
@BartekBanachewicz i gotta give you that.. thats just pure insanity
@ChemiCalChems no i was just immiating you :P
 
@user5600875 yes he took BSD kernel and made a worse copy of it
 
@user5600875 oh
 
clearly a life achievement
 
8:39 PM
@BartekBanachewicz you may be right
 
I made a worse copy of minecraft
 
wait what am i saying
@BartekBanachewicz i didn't hear about that
 
it's on github
 
@BartekBanachewicz Dunno man. Your minecraft clone is pretty excellent.
It's done right.
 
hahah
@Nooble well at least it has reasonable memory footprint
 
8:40 PM
@BartekBanachewicz yo can you please show me that commit xD
 
why can't we all just not give a fuck about bastards and get to work on our things
 
that was one of the "done right" goals
52 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
it's on github
 
i'm in crossfire myself
 
i thought you had the comit .. im not gonna search through 800,000+ Commits xD
 
i want to make money with my games, but don't want to be a prick, what to do?
 
8:41 PM
@user5600875 the commit of what
 
When he copies the BSD Kernel
 
oh shit uh
 
why the fuck does he copy BSD Kernel?
 
@user5600875 not FreeBSD, BSD
@user5600875 because that was the dominating kernel when the Linux was born and it was expensive?
 
Are you kidding me?
 
8:42 PM
No?
 
BSD Is older than Linux?
 
> Linus Torvalds has stated that if the GNU kernel had been available at the time (1991), he would not have decided to write his own.[33]

Although not released until 1992 due to legal complications, development of 386BSD, from which NetBSD, OpenBSD and FreeBSD descended, predated that of Linux. Torvalds has also stated that if 386BSD had been available at the time, he probably would not have created Linux.
 
srsly why is it taking for ever to install windows VM
Well we can all admit that Linux is a Overpowered Kernel.
 
@user5600875 because it's not
There are other kernels that are used way more
 
Yea like windows NT but.. thats because normal users are most often not developers
There is no denying the fact that Linux is one of the best kernels for Development Use
 
8:46 PM
@user5600875 I deny it.
So clearly you're wrong.
 
Ok so what do you use?
 
OSX, FreeBSD and Windows, with respective kernels
 
@user5600875 no user actually cares about kernels
they care for applications
 
yeah one thing to mention is that most of development isn't that different from normal use
I launch programs.
I launch a text editor and a compiler.
 
they care for applications so much cross-platform applications exist and being cross-platform is a desirable property
 
8:50 PM
@milleniumbug yea they dont care.. but it is the CORE of the OS
applications are User Level obv.. so its the OS.
 
@user5600875 so...?
 
@user5600875 so?
You only care about it when it fucks up
 
@user5600875 Installation time is irrelevant
Cloning a VM takes 10 seconds
and snapshots are a thing
 
besides dunno Windows installs in like 5 minutes nowadays
 
no it dosent !
 
8:53 PM
we're not in XP age where HDDs had 30MB/s
 
Let me spice this up: Your mom installs at 30MB/s.
 
Hey!!!
 
Xcode actually allows setting env variables as a part of project settings
 
Who pays a tutor 15 dollars for 15minutes lol.. thats insane they must be super rich
 
8:56 PM
that's a terrible feature.
 
@user5600875 Obviously people who think such tutor session is worth it
 
@user5600875 my rate is one of the lowest there BTW; most people charge more
@Puppy I think it's decent to have that option
 
nwp
has anyone played with the juCi++ editor?
 
@BartekBanachewicz ill rather learn my self and discover stuff. or just get friends online to help me with stuff, or like chats here
 
For example, you can have projects configured to two different versions at the same time
 
8:58 PM
@nwp I'm contributing to it
 
environmental dependencies in build systems are already bad enough
 
actually, not recently
but still, I have like 16 issues and 15 commits
 
nwp
@milleniumbug I'm thinking about doing the same
 
@Puppy yes you're describing 100% of c++ development on the planet
 
yes, so let's not make it any worse.
 
8:59 PM
@user5600875 And some people prefer to pay and get direct and personal response. So?
@Puppy It's certainly not making my life worse.
 
@BartekBanachewicz idk.. they must have rich parents for 15$ for 15min.. thats 1 dollar for every minute
 
coming from the guy who can't even conceive of usability
 
@user5600875 Congratulations on your division skills. Are you aware that there are people who have money that doesn't come from their parents, e.g. people who work?
@Puppy You have leveled up your ad hominem skills I see.
 
it's not an ad hominem in this case.
since you can't even conceive of usability, I find it hard to accept an argument that you find that it doesn't reduce usability.
 
@Puppy you're wrong.
 
user406009
9:03 PM
@user5600875 15$ for 15 minutes isn't actually that much. At least in the US.
 
@nwp The codebase is... problematic, but it actually gets better now, now that there are some tests
but I still can't, for example, comprehend the clang interaction layer at all
 
you'd find it hard to comprehend Wide's too
because that's Clang.
 
yeah, that's why I don't contribute to wide
besides the occasional attempts of building it on other systems
 
personally I think that "Because I'd have to deal with Clang" is a great reason.
 
Have their been notable additions/improvements to LLVM in that last few months?
 
9:11 PM
I could write a non-standard standard library for Wide :)
 
libsystem_pthread.dylib`pthread_kill + 90
    frame #2: 0x00007fff9c9216e7 libsystem_c.dylib`abort + 129
    frame #3: 0x00007fff8cab7e5c libGPUSupportMercury.dylib`gpusGenerateCrashLog + 158
    frame #4: 0x0000000108495c7b AppleIntelBDWGraphicsGLDriver`gpusKillClientExt + 9
    frame #5: 0x00007fff8cab9361 libGPUSupportMercury.dylib`gpusSubmitDataBuffers + 511
    frame #6: 0x00000001080043fa AppleIntelBDWGraphicsGLDriver`IntelCommandBuffer::getNew(GLDContextRec*) + 48
is that OOM
 
FYI, $60 an hour is 125k a year
 
@milleniumbug write it to terra, it actually has users
 
@Borgleader Dunno
@milleniumbug You could do but the language isn't even remotely finalized and truth be told I've not really done anything with it for a while
 
@Lalaland Haha your kidding me.
 
nwp
9:14 PM
@milleniumbug how does one build the tests? They don't appear to get built when you just build juci, and cmake in the test folder complains about CMake can not determine linker language
 
user406009
@Mikhail Not to mention that the hourly rate would be higher for something like tutoring.
 
user406009
Since it won't be continuous or long hours.
 
@user5600875 why would he?
 
Or overhead, but hell, I needed to talk to an IP lawyer and that cost $400 dollars an hour. The ass hole tried to tell me a story about his college days.
 
9:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz i honestly think $15 for 15minutes , is preety dam expensive. my oppinon on it
 
@user5600875 do you live in the US?
 
Yup
 
then I dunno why you'd think that
 
@nwp They use cmake -DENABLE_TESTING=1
 
He thinks that because he can't appreciate attention to detail. smh
 
9:17 PM
you might as well use cmake -G Ninja -DENABLE_TESTING /path/to/juci in your build folder
 
I actually have the code from the CM thing I was working on
it's a super interesting project
 
@sehe its just my oppinon..
 
if only because fuck make
 
I just wish my graphics driver didn't crash when launching
@user5600875 there do exist bad opinions you know
 
@user5600875 And you're proving my point. Or should I say ponit
 
9:18 PM
it's not like you can say "it's just an opinion" and immediately think that everyone will accept it
 
@BartekBanachewicz oppinons*..
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Zone of bad opinions [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
@sehe wait were you talking to me? i didnt know
 
@milleniumbug we're all stalkers
 
9:20 PM
You were clearly talking to me so what gives?
 
hmm i thought that sege dude was Room Owner
sehe*
 
this app has a "setup()" function which calls an "initialize()" function
give me a hammer
 
@BartekBanachewicz The feature set actually makes it possible to write a decent one, might as well try
 
@milleniumbug I have already started btw
I can push what I have right now
 
9:22 PM
well actually it's one file so far so
 
ah yeah, the vector
 
preety funny but im actually assembly room owner LOL
 
(you have to excuse my terrible includepath support)
I am ashamed of it
deeply
and truly
 
Guys any C++ Viedos or articles that are really good in intermediate C++ ?
viedos wil be good
 
9:25 PM
@user5600875 I am not sure if I'd describe your level as "intermediate" if you want videos
Read C++ Primer then Josuttis.
or one of the new ones
 
man i hate that book
 
rip you
 
that book is number one hated list
for me
 
somehow I'm not surprised
 
9:26 PM
very boring and dull
 
yes it's not a comic book
it's, on the other hand, a very good, comprehensive book for a serious learner
 
Books are more interesting when you know what they are talking about.
 
no @BartekBanachewicz its hard to explain
however let me try my best
 
can I not
 
sec parents
 
9:27 PM
lol programming videos
the worst medium I can imagine for teaching programming
 
@milleniumbug BTW last thing I was working on was getting the __gc to work. It should work for tables for Lua >5.2, but it doesn't seem to work in terra's lua. Maybe the userdata will have to be created to register the vector's deleter
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz How do you do the RAII?
 
alternatively of course there's RAII
 
nwp
@user5600875 the conferences usually have a youtube channel with a lot of talks
 
9:29 PM
@Lalaland haven't attempted that yet
but I guess you'd need to modify function creation
to introduce scopes
with macros for example
> The first argument to every macro is the compilation context ctx. It can be used to report an error if the macro doesn’t apply to the arguments given, and is needed in certain API calls used in macros. The second argument to every macro (tree) is the AST node in the code that represents the macro call.
you can directly insert AST nodes that would call destructors at the end of the scope of the quotation, for example @Lalaland @milleniumbug
 
user406009
So, basically implementing destructors yourself.
 
yeah
it's kinda lua-like in the "implement everything yourself" ideology
 
the fact that it's possible is quite impressive
 
Boo is the other notable language that can do that I think
@R.MartinhoFernandes would know
but frankly, I'd start with the GC hooks myself
memleaks are virtually not a problem in embedded anyway, for example
if your code doesn't grow, that is
 
> She'll be the first f***** president. Fuck she deleted the 'emale'
apt
 
9:41 PM
that was so bad I actually laughed
 
This is surprising. And welcome context
Maybe D Patrick was actually on the campaign team, I would never know
 
@StackedCrooked the latest Shokugeki no Souma was fun
 
ugh seriously this seems like driver crashing
god damn crap intel gpu drivers
 
anyone knows some sad songs?
i'm noticing all my music lib is full of metal and indie, there's nothing to cry to
 
update() {
    drawInto...();
}
I am not sure which kind of people I hate more
the ones that do drawing in update routines, the ones that update in their draw routines, or the ones that call their update routines "draw"
 
what is it about a song that makes it sad? it can't only be that it's played in a minor key or in a major key, it has to be something else
can't be the lyrics either
even though those have a lot to do
but for example, what a wonderful world is supposed to be happy, but i cry everytime
and it's written in a major key, and the lyrics celebrate on life
maybe that's what's sad about the song
that it draws life as happy when the world will never be like the song says
the irony of that song may be it
 
cinder 0.8.6 doesn't appear to have a way to get opengl errors at all
 
i'm over-analyzing again, sorry
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wikileaks, herping the derp.
 
it doesn't make me cry anymore
fuck
 
9:57 PM
Well, they seem to really want Sanders to win, and they won't hesitate to fabricate lies to do that.
I mean, the stuff they've leaked is certainly genuine, but their interpretation of it all is incredibly sketchy.
 

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