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2:03 AM
@ElimGarak No :( Im always so fucking tired when i get home. Damn that 2x 2hr commute
I need a flat near where i work pronto T_T
 
2:14 AM
Benefits of a 2000 triangle window frame. Smooooooooth
 
uplay launcher that crashes on startup unless it’s started with admin rights :|
 
@Borgleader Damn that's longer than mine.
6
 
It can't install spyware without them rights, dammit
 
Mine's only an hour and a half :/
 
@Nooble you in new york?
 
2:18 AM
@Borgleader Yes.
My commute is from Queens to Manhattan.
 
@Nooble wtf happened to that crane
 
> spammer le chat
nice French EULA
 
It joined the Empire
 
@LucDanton yall use english words half the time anyway
 
Man, if life were as simple as planar reflections.
 
2:20 AM
@Borgleader The one on Worth street, right? I heard it killed a guy. Don't know why it fell though. I was gonna go there with friends but snowball fight.
There was surprise snowfall today. Looked beautiful.
 
@Nooble Yeah that one, tragic that somebody died. I just cant wrap my head around that just happening.
like wtf
@LucDanton the swtor launcher needs admin rights too, never figured out why
 
@Borgleader It's basically criminal negligence, but nothing will come of it
 
probably yeah
 
@Borgleader Mining cartel coins
 
rofl
 
2:23 AM
@Borgleader Crane collapses happen all the time in Manhattan. There's always another skyscraper being built by some rich guy.
 
@Nooble til cranes collapsing is a common thing
 
@Borgleader I mean they're not like an everyday occurence. Maybe every 6 months?
 
@ElimGarak have you seen this? its pretty cool
yesterday, by Borgleader
the BladeRunner one is cool /cc @JerryCoffin
@Nooble thats still wway more frequen then i expected
 
Queens boulevard got closed plenty of times because these occurences. And when it isn't a crane collapsing, it's a pedestrian getting hit by a car or a car driving into a small store :P
It's nicknamed the boulevard of death.
 
damn
 
2:27 AM
@Nooble It did look REALLY beautiful.
 
whoa
 
If I had a good DSLR like @Jerry I definitely would've taken a picture.
 
@ThePhD Loved the snow on the trees :)
 
Also, multilayered clothing with simulated parts is a bitch.
 
@ElimGarak yeah thats my favorite, its me desktop background at work now
 
2:29 AM
@Nooble RIGHT
It had JUST enough enough on them
And then there were those narrow strips of green fields
covered entirely in a thin sheet of white
It looked like a fuckin' fairytale
or an Anime scene.
 
You guys are such sentimental pussies <3
 
There's only 1 other time in my life where I was convinced I had walked into an Anime scene.
It was when I was 11. I was walking home in Fall. And for literally 2 minutes straight,
 
NOTHING but red leaves were falling.
 
Here's one from snapchat.
 
2:30 AM
It just kept coming down.
It honestly felt and looked magical.
 
Couldn't carry DSLR because heavy and fragile and too hipster.
 
The wind was blowing just right too.
 
And it wasn't even that cold! It was perfect
 
I seriously need to reverse engineer Apple Maps and Google Maps, to stream out that geometry of cities they're both pulling in from the same place. My current dx hook is too unreliable and limited, capturing the data from input assembly is nasty.
 
I thought Google makes all of its map data available?
 
2:33 AM
The 3D buildings that have been extrapolated?
 
Oh, that.
Not a clue.
 
I wrote my little tool to extract the entire Seattle downtown area for the artists to have a realworld basis, with proper scale. First I tried all the tools previously made, all failed miserably. 3D ripper, some gl hook etc.
 
> Support Ending for the .NET Framework 4, 4.5 and 4.5.1
... uwotm8
 
rekt
 
Oh
> All other framework versions, including 3.5, 4.5.2, 4.6 and 4.6.1
So they're just saying "we're not supporting unupgraded shit."
And 3.5 can't be destroyed because it's basically the backcompat with a LOT of old stuff.
 
2:38 AM
lol, I am always amazed by the people who manage to get shit working, given their code.
 
@ElimGarak i would get a headache after 15 min of staring at that
 
Icicle.
 
too flashy
 
@ElimGarak o_o that’s wasteful
 
I get a headache while reading C++ errors too
 
2:39 AM
There's 5 km of that
 
that’s a lot of memory being allocated and immediately thrown on the ground
 
Yay DSLs
 
hopefully it’s O(kn) and not O(k²n) or O(kn²), can’t math atm
 
O(a lot)
 
amortized O(a lot), cus it reallocates into result, too
 
2:44 AM
Amortised by the brick wall you run into
 
@ElimGarak with -Werror I Ctrl-F to error:
 
dis is not how u dx12, m8 ._.
 
(in this case with no -Werror we’re looking at a bright purple warning:)
 
Every time I get this itchy feeling to help out on a project, I open a random cpp and just say to myself nope.
 
dis is not how u share codes m8
 
2:47 AM
@ElimGarak Can you explain what is wrong? :o
 
Not enough auto
 
I thought the amount of pointer casts was just fine.
 
@Nican Not enough raw pointers.
 
Everyone needs more void* pointers in their lives.
 
void* is the wheel on the bus that makes it go 'round and 'round.
 
2:50 AM
@ElimGarak what are those rsx::method_register thingies?
 
mornin'
 
@Borgleader Reality Synthesizer X internals from the PS3, in particular testing alpha blending and the ref val for it.
 
@jaggedSpire RISE AND SHINE MOTHERFUCKER.
 
@Nooble excellent
 
> Opposite the earlier parts of the series more uniform
wat
 
2:53 AM
Oh how I adore SCREAMINGCASE3D12Function.
 
@Nican Well, beyond the fact it is yuck, the author(s) are hardcoding themselves into a corner and consistently repeat themselves by not generalizing their code. DX12 spills its guts for you to put them together how you like them, you're not meant to smear the walls with them. :D
 
@ElimGarak you mean all the magic values
 
@Borgleader I mean, there are 20 methods that basically do the same thing to different data. :D
 
ah, well thats not apparent from your screenshot :P
 
@ElimGarak What are templates.
 
2:55 AM
Screenshot was just messy shit :D
I have no idea how these people succeed in making things run. It's impressive given the amount of shit.
 
I can't make anything run.
 
Someone recently informed them of smart pointers.
So the code is alternating and/or mixing nekkid owning pointorz and unique pointorz.
It'll be some time until they realize they can do the same thing with COM.
		ID3D12PipelineState *pso;
		ID3D12RootSignature *root_signature;
		ID3D12Resource *vertex_buffer;
		ID3D12DescriptorHeap *texture_descriptor_heap;
		ID3D12DescriptorHeap *sampler_descriptor_heap;
 
Ok. So I was not really missing anything.
 
...they didn't know about smart pointers have they been living under a rock?
 
@ElimGarak nothing wrong with that
gotta transition somehow
 
3:03 AM
I compliment their effort though, in total, there is over 1M LoC being maintained.
 
@jaggedSpire std::unique_ptr_to_unique_ptr_to_unique_ptr_unique_ptr.
 
that's a hell of a lot, I gotta say
@Nooble that's a) snake case and b) not it and you know it
 
@jaggedSpire snake case master race
 
On the other side, there is xenia, for X360. There we enter camel toe case and two-space soft tabs, if any.
 
@ElimGarak Two-space tabs are used by monsters only.
 
3:11 AM
Its backend is solely OpenGL, I suspect OpenGL 4.5 only given some of the extensions used.
 
Mail: "What is a root signature?" *typety type* (one hour later) *send*
rofl
 
Pretty much. Also, people asking you to explain resource renaming to them.
Then why is it called resource renaming.
What is a hazard and why do we track it.
How does WDDM work.
 
I wish OpenGL automatically mapped some of its functions to extensions if it wasn't of the right level.
 
And my favorite: if heaps are aligned on a 64 KiB boundary and constant buffers are tiny and there are thousands of them, does that mean we have to lose almost 64 KiB on most of them?
 
Uh.
Who aligns on a 64 KiB boundary?
That's huge.
 
3:25 AM
Stuff in GPU memory is huge. That's for standard resources, buffers and single sample texture. MSAA resources is 4 MiB aligned. There is a special exemption for tiny textures in special tiled circumstances, at 4 KiB.
 
> tfw I make 96 byte Constant Buffers
I make one constant buffer per... well, constant buffer, per shader.
 
> An instance validates successfully against this keyword if it validates successfully against exactly one schema defined by this keyword's value.
jesus
 
@ThePhD Usually, you have per object and per frame information (and other frequencies) and you have to slice that across different constant buffers. With D3D12, you can create a sufficiently fat buffer with whatever semantics you desire and then use the GPUVA to move along it and define constant buffer view (basically, descriptors which are almost pointers). The buffer is a resource and a resource has an underlying heap which contains it, and that heap is aligned on a 64 KiB boundary.
 
@ElimGarak Sounds like what I tried to do for my D3D11 engine and then stopped because it didn't work quiet so well.
 
Within the resource, you plonk constant buffers which are aligned on a strict 256 byte boundary and there ya go.
@ThePhD it takes a lot of thinking about it, your requirements etc. With D3D11 it was trivial as a lot of stuff was handled for you. On top of all this, you do hazard tracking and resource renaming in D3D12.
 
3:32 AM
@ElimGarak and in true gamedev fashion theyre called hazardtrackingmanager, resourcenamingmanager, constantbuffermanager, etc :P
 
ayyyy
Usually the buffer itself is stored in system memory (under writecombine policy, upload heap type) and as GPUs now do virtual memory and don't require retarded patching, the GPU maps to the physical system memory and pulls it over PCIe when needed.
 
so either it didn’t autosave or crashing somehow made the autosaves disappear
 
ITT Luc playing Assassin's Creed Unity
 
It could be both!
 
also after each crash (yes, it wasn’t the first one) it also attempts to cloud sync and fails every time
 
3:37 AM
Clearly that wouldn't be a problem if it stored everything in the butt and skipped this ancient backwards technology that is your hard drive
 
Cloud should be a bonus optional feature, not something that fucks you over. As in, oh, I reinstalled my OS and forgot to save my saves. Oh, wow, cloud to the rescue.
Connecting to the Cloud...
Cloud has nothing to say to you.
Connection terminated. Would you like to start a new gaem?
Unable to access Cloud. Autosave is disabled.
 
> In Unix, finger is a program you can use to find information about computer users. It usually lists the login name, the full name, and possibly other details about the user you are fingering.
2
 
Because pointer was trademarked and had insufficient innuendo.
 
Also lol nerd news
Post about "decentralised minimalist microblogging service" (basically self-hosted text files and some tool to fetch them)
> Check out Freenet (freenetproject.org), it is the perfect platform for implementing static content social media like this.
> Seems like something like this would be a perfect use case for IPFS[0]
> Also: quitter.se (StatusNet/GNU social)
 
They are raising $30k
 
3:49 AM
Remember to include definition of "minimalist"
> It would be great if there was a directory of users.
lol
 
> We are a federation of microbloggers who care about ethics and solidarity and want to quit the centralised capitalist services.
 
> copies Twitter design
lol I didn't even look
Content includes photos of RMS and anime babes
Also there was a link to minimalist chat
lol
 
Oh, shit, snackchat brightness overload
sup shoe
 
why can't we make custom attributes
C++ adds features and shits all over them
 
That'd require compiler plugins
Good luck getting that out of MSVC
 
4:00 AM
yup
msvc has it under C++/CX or whatever their latest and greatest is
but I think that's CLR
same as C# etc
 
C++/SUX
 
WinRT is not CLR I think
 
@Rapptz It's not.
 
C++/CX generates COM components, not CLR classes.
 
4:03 AM
WinRT (C++ "extended") is an attempt at going up from Win32 (C)
 
@Rapptz Yeah--"Managed C++" and "C++/CLI" are both CLR (and both messes, at least IMO).
 
COMponentes
Managed C++ is also ded
 
The only reason to go for C++/CLI for me would be to wrap native zeebusbus stuff to be accessed in a C# WPF project.
 
good news everyone I put W10 to sleep it stayed up the whole night my laptop is burnin
 
4:05 AM
how2software
 
Do powercfg lastwake or something like that
 
Install FartOS
 
powercfg /lastwake
 
  Compteur des sources de sortie de veille - 1
  Source de sortie de veille [0]
    Type : Minuteur de sortie de veille
    Propriétaire : [SERVICE] \Device\HarddiskVolume5\Windows\System32\svchost.exe (SystemEventsBroker)
    Raison fournie par le propriétaire : Windows exécutera la tâche planifiée « NT TASK\Microsoft\Windows\UpdateOrchestrator\Reboot » qui nécessitait la sortie de veille de l'ordinateur.
 
Also powercfg /waketimers to pinpoint which badware registers them
 
4:07 AM
No habla francenol
 
IOW windows really wanted to reboot to it woke up
 
There are settings to disable wake timers (doesn't really work but might as well) in power plan, and 'allow wake' in maintenance I think
Control Panel\System and Security\Security and Maintenance\Automatic Maintenance
 
I got a really nifty idea for my resource tiling subsystem, but I don't feel like doing anything until tomorrow. wat do.
 
@LucDanton mendiant
@nick are you around
Dean is coming over from Korea today let's all go hiking tugethar
 
I want to hike with nick and cicada, too
 
4:11 AM
No MVPs
 
Model View Perturbator
 
Also Get-ScheduledTask | Where-Object {$_.Settings.WakeToRun} to find which scheduled tasks are broken
(You can't really disable that Reboot one though, because Windows helpfully restores it for you every update)
 
Windows also helpfully reinstalls the shitty apps I don't care about
 
@LucDanton I kinda liked the tdk# approach a bit so I made my own implementation that extends it a bit.
 
I don't even try to touch Metro shit
 
4:13 AM
Separated it from the canonical one though.
 
@Rapptz You managed to do it?
 
the macro? no
the actual code? yes
 
I don't get metro at all
 
@Rapptz will take a look soon
 
I haven't pushed it
 
4:14 AM
hey looks like alt-tabbing killed the gaem
let’s see if Steam would refund me
 
what a surprise
 
@Shoe You know I'm just too good.
 
"Soon" does not imply any particular date, time, decade, century, or millennia in the past, present, and certainly not the future. "Soon" shall make no contract or warranty between Luc Danton and the end user. "Soon" will arrive some day, Luc Danton does guarantee that "soon" will be here before the end of time. Maybe. Do not make plans based on "soon" as Luc Danton will not be liable for any misuse, use, or even casual glancing at "soon."
 
oh sorry I meant to call Rapptz 'son'
 
lol
how to reduce boilerplate
 
I don't know how to macros and boost.pp has implications
 
> LinkedIn shares drop 40%, erasing $10B of company's value
laffo
 
wow 10 bucks
not bad
 
@HubertApplebaum what value
 
13 peanuts and a caramel candy
 
4:21 AM
I'm not parting with any peanuts for something like that
they're delicious
I will trade 13 peanuts and a caramel for 14 peanuts though
 
@Rapptz $10 bucks
 
That's a lot of nuts
 
well I'm nuts, so it works out
 
@Rapptz >implications
 
yeah
the implication that you need 10 thousand boost headers
 
4:22 AM
Boost.PP is great
(way to make people weep)
 
and technically not nuts, are legumes, etc.
<insert pedantry here>
 
It's fun writing functional code in a language based on text substitution
 
I'll keep that in mind when I wipe the tears
 
with data types!
 
Data type
It's like TCL in that regard
Except it can't do anything
 
4:24 AM
tabs vs TCL
 
I almost invariably use VARIADICS_TO_SEQ and then all the SEQ_ENUM stuff or what have you
@Rapptz I don’t suppose just linking you to my Boost.PP reflect macros would help would it?
 
@LucDanton sure
 
@CatPlusPlus blockchain technology!!!!!
 
buttchain
 
wew
I dropped the macro idea
it's just a lot of effort
 
that was fast
I like to think I was helpful
 
I mean before I saw your thing
 
too late I’ve taken credit
 
4:32 AM
we were in voice chat in discord
and I was trying to write macros and I gave up
figured it's easier to kill myself instead
 
> npm ERR! Refusing to install keybase as a dependency of itself
 
ERR!
 
node dot jabbascript is a really good technology
 
don't bully my stack
I figure I might as well try to handle realistic json I deal with.
 
4:44 AM
modernpaste.com laffo the demo takes 10 seconds to load
 
oh good it supports VHDL and Verilog
 
no C++ lol
this demo blows
 
why is 15% of my screen taken by garbage at all times
 
That's modern
Oh the nobejs client is deprecated, they switched to Go
Cool
 
@CatPlusPlus wow
@LucDanton 21stcentury.js
 

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