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12:03 PM
firefox disappeared from my mac
stop being weird computerz!
 
> >mac
> >computerz
telkitty plz
 
oh there’s a Steam sale thing
 
There's one distinct feature of PCs: they are personal.
However, IIRC, you don't own a Mac computer. Apple does. (Or did that only apply to their software?)
 
12:19 PM
@LucDanton Yeah, I didn't really see anything particularly tempting there
 
wow I suck at this benchmarking thing.
 
This just isn't fair, I didn't even drink last night and I feel more hung over than usual :\
 
start telling the youngsters off your lawn
 
Today the winds are over nein thousands.
 
nonius reports 0ns for everything
this is the worst
 
12:25 PM
nice optimization
 
I RNG'd the hell out of it too :'(
 
Hey, ood news, my reading of the license of Elements of Programming is that it's a permissive license :D
 
@Rapptz Probably the operation is too fast for the clock.
those timings that you do have that aren't 0ns strongly scream to me that the clock can't measure finer than 160kns, give or take.
so try performing about 100,000 times as many operations as you do now
 
@Puppy what’s with the unsolicited advice
this really is Nonius business you know
 
lol
 
12:41 PM
@Rapptz If you have an intel chip, RNG is no longer a source of work.
 
lol
idk I gave up
 
Intel processors now have a special builtin CSRNG that pushes through gigabytes of RNG data per second.
 
I figure if both give all these dumb 0ns results then I'm just micro-optimising
 
or youre shit at coming up with good benchmarks :P
 
doubt it
 
12:49 PM
@Borgleader Borgleader.~
 
@Rapptz is timing even an issue for you? or are you just trying to optimise for the sake of it?
 
@ThePhD sup
 
@thecoshman when I changed the real code from function1 to function2 it went from 200ms to 16.8s.
and I was curious why
instead I got.. that
still confused but I'm over it
 
nonius v1 to v2?
 
latest stable
er sorry clarified a bit lol
 
12:52 PM
ah
wait, 16.8 seconds? as in 16800ms o_0
what the hell dude :P
 
yep.
when isolated it's not slow lol
 
@sehe what's health care system like in Netherlands?
@Rapptz that's probably a red herring :P
 
@Borgleader Not much... kind've wondering why you're awake so early. o-o
 
@ThePhD erm... i wake up 2hrs earlier than this on week days
 
Xeo
> early
 
12:54 PM
this is "late" for me
 
Xeo
it's almost 2pm, guys
 
1pm here
 
Xeo
You're a dog, what do you know about time.
 
I'm out of sugar and all I have is this crazy strong espresso
 
I have sugar bby
 
Xeo
12:57 PM
> I'm out of sugar
well done!
@AlexM. try cream
 
@TonyTheLion pls send some
this coffee hurts
 
Xeo
don't drink it?
 
@Xeo don't have that either
 
black coffee, best coffee
 
12:57 PM
@Borgleader Exactly why you should be in bed more on the weekends. ;;
 
@Borgleader <3
 
Xeo
why do people make unpalatable drinks so they can stuff them with sugar to make them palatable?
 
@Xeo I normally wouldn't but the industrious neighbor woke me up
 
How will you stay up late and party all night long on weekends if you're getting up at regular working hours?
 
12:58 PM
@Xeo because sugar!
 
@ThePhD I just tend to wake at those hours during the weekend too
 
when I arrived here there was space for sale for commercial ppl next to my apartment
someone bought it and now they're building their shit in it
 
As much as I like to sleep in, I still tend to wake up the same time ish
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Yeah, my cats don't leave me much of a choice in that regard
I went to bed at 2am, and woke up around 8
 
@Xeo ah that's a good thing to take into account if I ever decide to have a cat
 
12:59 PM
@TonyTheLion Also if i get up too late on weekends, mondays are rough because i end up not sleeping much on sunday and then im a zombie the next day
 
Xeo
Could've gone back to sleep, but I was actually awake, so I just got up
 
@Borgleader yep same here
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Eh, they can deal with being hungry for a few hours
sometimes I don't get up until 12 on weekends
 
@Xeo I haven't done that in a while
 
Xeo
but they do tend to make noise which wakes you up
 
1:00 PM
I would love to, but I start feeling bad if I don't get up after 10 am
 
Xeo
or just straight jump onto you
 
fwiw the coffee is not that bad
it resets my brain
because it's so bitter
 
I wouldn't mind some floofy cuddles in the morning
 
Xeo
I'm so happy I don't need coffee or any form of caffeine to get my brain up and running
I just get up and that's that
 
user1804599
"main.grass" (line 20, column 31):
unexpected "~"
expecting identifier, "foreign", "(", "[", "{", "\"" or ")"
 
user1804599
1:01 PM
Parsec is amazing.
 
there's a difference between getting your brain up and running
 
@Xeo Lucky you
 
and not feeling any kind of sleepy
I can get my brain up and running without caffeine too
 
I can do without coffee, it just takes me way longer to wake up
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Once I'm up, I'm not sleepy until evening
 
1:03 PM
but I need the no-tiredness
 
Pfff.
All you weirdos with your...
 
jesus christ a guy keeps telling me to play underrail
 
responsibilities.
 
Xeo
of course I tend to just stay in bet another 30mins after waking up just because I can :D
 
being tired at work is the worst
 
1:04 PM
@AlexM. now you know how it feels :P
 
it just prevents any productivity
 
@Borgleader lol
ye my work routine is
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion I found that walking to work really helped with that for me, with a nice quick pace.
 
double espresso when I arrive
cappuccino two hours later
 
@Xeo ohhh yes, a walk in the morning is nice
 
1:05 PM
I feel great thru the day
 
but I don't go to the office
so I end up being lazy, walk from my bed to my desk and back
 
I'd walk to work but that would mean waking up 1 hr earlier and meeeh
I just take the cab
I walk back home
 
do you have a driving license?
 
nope I'll retry to get one once I move to my own apt
failed twice lol
 
1:08 PM
@TonyTheLion what about tired of work?
@TonyTheLion "you fucking what mate?"
 
@thecoshman yea thats also a productivity killer. But I don't suffer that at the moment
 
@TonyTheLion you don't 'suffer' it, you 'enjoy' it :P
 
maybe I enjoy the suffering :P
 
Any way, I've got go pay bills ¬_¬
 
@thecoshman oh fun
 
1:11 PM
:28606787 that's dangerous, unless you use a separate account to pay pills
 
@KhaledKhnifer Its actually fine when you micro-manage your finances as much as I do
 
@TonyTheLion it's dangerous, because if someone over-pills you by mistake it's gonna drain your money from the bank like magic
 
@Nooble You are?
 
Tony plays You Need A Budget like the government sucks money from the poor and gives it to the rich
 
what does over-pilling mean
an overdose of pills?
 
1:13 PM
ergh... it's raining, I feel like shit, have to pay money, have to carrier shit dust home
 
I've been using Money Lover to manage my expenses, it's a really nice app
 
let's see your mobile pill is auto paid by your bank account that has ~10K$ usually in it
 
on android
 
@KhaledKhnifer lol, not an issue here. Like I said, I know exactly how much money is in my account at any given time, and when each bill comes out. Its literally a non issue.
 
this shit sucks
 
1:13 PM
@Puppy hahahaah
I wish I could remove that stupid steam status thing
I literally don't use steam for anything else
 
moneylover.me <--- very recommended because it looks good and it works and it's cheap
 
then the mobile company because of a mistake charged you for internet on your main cell phone, which sometimes is an amount that transcend exponentially
 
@TonyTheLion fairly sure you can set if you want your 'in game' status to be shown or not...
you might just need to appear off line for that though
Friends 30th party tonight ¬_¬ Sunday is going to be hell I think.
laters
 
awwww what a cutie
 
1:17 PM
That's a very sad police dog.
 
@Mgetz fun
 
@HubertApplebaum the irony, I see it
 
@HubertApplebaum no the sign means you are not allowed to dump your dead dogs here
 
now based on the 2 pictures deduce which character means dog
 
1:20 PM
none
the characters on the dog don't appear on the sign
 
@HubertApplebaum m a t c h d o g
 
chinese be hard
 
犬 is inu which is dog in Japanese
which is probably the same in Chinese
borrowed words etc
 
correct !
and it's the second before the end of the first line in the 2nd picture
 
but it doesn't appear on the sign
 
1:22 PM
they used different characters
狗 and 犬
anyway back to shitposting
 
Oh hey, found Cat
2
 
sup shoe?
 
> iPhones 'disabled' if Apple detects third-party repairs
 
I'm not sure if I should be a badlet.
 
1:24 PM
lol
@HubertApplebaum Apple the badlet
 
狗 means dog 犬 is more like canine
 
user1804599
def fizzbuzz (
      D 3 mod 0 = {"Fizz"} {""} if
    S D 5 mod 0 = {"Buzz"} {""} if
    ~
    D "" = {P itoa} {S P} if
)

def main (1 100 1 {fizzbuzz print} for)
 
user1804599
Just a few more things to implement and then this will compile. :>
 
user1804599
Integer literals and = in identifiers is all I need I think.
 
look it's elyse inventing a language
 
1:26 PM
YNAB is expensive wtf
 
such a rare event must be documented and remembered forever
 
@AlexM. yea but its only a one off expense (unless they've gone to a subscription model)
 
they did
hence don't buy it
 
I was reading on what is Fizzbuzz, and it went ..
> The "Fizz-Buzz test" is an interview question designed to help filter out the 99.5% of programming job candidates who can't seem to program their way out of a wet paper bag.
 
1:28 PM
I don't think it's subscription based
anyway if I ever need something moneylover doesn't provide I'll keep it in mind
 
lol
 
it looks nice
 
user1804599
I don't really like fizzbuzz.
 
yea you need FizzBuzz because people apparently will write anything on their CV
 
user1804599
It's the kind of problem that has no beautiful solutions.
 
1:29 PM
> I can polish a turd
 
user1804599
It's full of special cases.
 
prove it
turds can't be polished
 
@MadameElyse what interview question would you make a candidate try?
 
@TonyTheLion See Mythbusters episode
 
user1804599
Depends on the job.
 
user1804599
1:30 PM
Probably something that will be done in the job.
 
@AlexM. YNAB4 is a one off purchase
all future versions are a subscription
 
@набиячлэвэлиь wait.. they proved you can polish a turd?
 
@HubertApplebaum fukk it then
 
@TonyTheLion duh
 
I'll just export my moneylover data to csv
 
1:30 PM
kek
 
@MadameElyse assume a programmer
 
and write my own money manager
 
> The new YNAB is $5 per month, or $50 per year. If you are a YNAB 4 user, we'll give you a lifetime ten percent discount, making it $45/year.
 
user1804599
NO SHIT
 
@HubertApplebaum I actually thought you were shitposting.
But you're right lol
what the hell
 
1:31 PM
I never shitpost
6
 
user1804599
there are many different programming jobs hth
 
@HubertApplebaum :ironistar:
 
ironistars not allowed
 
tough shit, you got some anyway
 
when'd they change it
 
1:32 PM
@MadameElyse business-code programmer, nothing technology-oriented
 
we were funposting about it yesterday
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
> funposting
thats a thing?
 
And I bought it like 4 months ago so I am quite pissed
 
@набиячлэвэлиь what mythbusters episode?
 
1:32 PM
@TonyTheLion I don't think so
I never funpost
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion yes that's when we discuss Vlad from Moscow
 
every time I post I go through intense pain and depression
 
@HubertApplebaum drink less alcohol bby :P
 
they probably hired a business genius that figured out that the target audience for budget software might have loose purses
 
I'm watching a SOAD gig. Love SOAD <3
 
1:35 PM
@LucDanton in a way that makes sense
you can't spend too much if you don't have anything to spend in the first place
being poor is the best way to manage your money
otherwise you die
 
I use mint.com
not really a budget tool though
 
and that selfsame genius was probably disappointed when they couldn’t just set the price for using the software to '15% off whatever savings you manage thanks to us'
@Rapptz do you use it to print money for yourself instead
 
not in the same sense as YNAB anyway
@LucDanton I use it to keep track of things
 
that’s a really misleading name
 
1:37 PM
lol
 
anyway would recommend
 
damn I'm still hungry
 
what does it do
 
@TonyTheLion omg you reminded me that I'm hungry
 
1:38 PM
I want something that gives me GRAPHS and that I can easily query
 
it tracks your spending
 
Xeo
@HubertApplebaum You get 8 months for free, then. Check the website
 
Like sum(spending) on category(hookers) for period(last month) or something
 
Xeo
I'll just continue to use YNAB 4 vOv
 
user1804599
1:39 PM
lol this bag of crisps has a warning on it that says you should wash your hands after using
 
@Xeo same but I would not have purchased it
 
@sehe I narrowed it down to Kawai CA97 vs Yamaha CLP-585. The former has an awesome keyboard, fantastic piano samples, but the speaker system totally sucks. The latter has awesome speakers and good keyboard, but the sound is too "electronic" on pretty much all samples. Been switching between one and the other for the last 2 hours, can't decide :(
 
@Tony startup idea finance app with electron
 
I don't know if mint.com works outside of US/Canada btw
 
what do you mean outside of US/Canada
 
1:41 PM
bits not rated for export
 
@HubertApplebaum lets do it
 
@HubertApplebaum how do you think it automatically tracks your spending yo
 
sigh, stupid kids ringing the door bell cause they think its funny
 
you link your cards/bank to it.
it is p. handy
 
and how it works is that you input your bank login into it
it’s genious
 
1:42 PM
can't wait to move out of here
which hopefully should be soon~~~~
 
@Rapptz connects to the NSA API?
 
@HubertApplebaum ye
 
NSASendAllYourData(void* data)
void* because they want your junk as well
 
real men budget with Excel tbqh
 
I use Excel to do some hypothetical spending calculations
 
1:45 PM
nice
 
@TonyTheLion Yell 'get off my lawn' at them
 
@TonyTheLion actually it's a z prefixed function, n prefixed functions check user permissions. Also Kernel MODE
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion kill one
 
user1804599
the others will stop
 
Step 1: change half the files in your library. Step 2: watch your testsuite explode.
 
1:48 PM
@Rapptz I never saw MATLAB spelled so wrong
 
user1804599
What to implement first: user-defined types or documentation comments?
 
User-defined types.
 
user1804599
Ok. :3
 
everyone knows real men budget with matlab and the financial toolbox
 
real men budget with math.h
 
1:50 PM
look at that shit I don't even know what it means wow
 
> butterfly range
where is the daisy scale and the pony fairy coefficient
 
buttiful buttefly range
 
@AlexM. oh man options pricing
 
I think fascinating graphs are there to help ease the painful financial experience
 
1:54 PM
thats hard
 
user1804599
data (a option) (
  (a some)
  none
)
 
I think money is the most complex thing we've invented
truly something only someone as insane as us could've created it
 
The Black–Scholes /ˌblæk ˈʃoʊlz/ or Black–Scholes–Merton model is a mathematical model of a financial market containing derivative investment instruments. From the model, one can deduce the Black–Scholes formula, which gives a theoretical estimate of the price of European-style options. The formula led to a boom in options trading and legitimised scientifically the activities of the Chicago Board Options Exchange and other options markets around the world. lt is widely used, although often with adjustments and corrections, by options market participants. Many empirical tests have shown that the...
this shit
 
bby u wanna stuff my black schole
 
before currency were invented, it was just trading, currency then was based on value, modern currency is a number in a database where its value is based on a trust-circle or a financial system
 
1:58 PM
money can only buy what's provided by humans
 
what is the value in a currency that was made up by a mathematician like bitcoin ?
 
what is the value in a currency that is made of sheets of paper mixed with tissue?
 
@AlexM. oh yes, the irony is that fiat currency is the only way to prevent boom-bust cycles. But it also takes a fairly assholish central bank
 

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