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12:00 PM
@Sino have you researched calling conventions?
 
guysss
my company is posting on so careers
 
user1804599
nice
 
it's full of cringe
 
how many pedant openings do you have
 
user1804599
12:08 PM
> 0 jobs for “company:"Addstones Vanilla"”
 
@HubertApplebaum doesn’t ring a bell
 
I must be delicious, I got bitten by a mozzie while walking again
 
@slaphappy link
 
@Zoidberg what, am I crazy :p
can you see this one
 
alors déjà c'est bourré de mots anglais ça me donne une diarrhée illico
 
12:11 PM
hey guys, [french]
 
can I downvote a job posting
 
> tout en gardant des bases solides en back.
je pige pas, back-up?
 
my friend's company is here too
 
le shat de chateau
 
> réaliser des d’UI dynamiques et sexys en Angular
muh cancer
 
12:13 PM
cancr.io
3
 
> Aussi passionné et motivé qu’un Jedi
 
5 mins ago, by slaphappy
it's full of cringe
 
j'mappelle edition
 
> La moyenne d’âge de nos 250 collaborateurs est entre 28 et 35 ans.
et le QI ?
 
28 to 35
 
12:14 PM
@HubertApplebaum tout le monde sait que les Jedi préfère la sérénité aux émotions !
 
> "La France peut évoluer vers un régime autoritaire"
jerry
 
Note how they checked all the marks in the Joel test even though they have no idea what the job is
 
c'est la mère de l'auteur qui ferait bien d'évoluer vers un régime tout court
 
> Etre capable de se mettre d’accord sur le choix de la musique en Open space
> ✓ Do programmers have quiet working conditions?
conclusion : tout le monde choisit pas de musique à chaque fois
en bon Jedi
 
lol
SENS-JE DU SARCASME
 
12:20 PM
@HubertApplebaum tu apprends vite petit padawan
 
time to watch a documentary on open-air defecation in india to realize my white privilege
 
@HubertApplebaum is that what the kids call it these days
happy valentine’s!
 
yes, open is better than closed, Liskov etc
 
they didn't tick "Do you have a bug database?"
why
 
@slaphappy cos they don’t have one
 
12:21 PM
 
all these buzzwords
my cancr
 
Ell
> Do your programmers have quiet working conditions?
 
t’es dans la finance et "valeur ajoutée" c’est un buzzword pour toi
je crois que je t’ai démasqué là
 
Ell
Oh wait I'm late
 
do you think I should apply
 
12:24 PM
why do you ask us?
 
@edi
 
@LucDanton la montée en compétence de nos collaborateurs est une de nos priorités, c'est pour cette raison que nous intervenons sur des projets de grande ampleur pour des grands comptes etc
 
are you fluent in PHP? it's one of the prerequisites
 
je le fais bien ?
 
@edition How reach the calling convention?
Lot of french ppl here !
 
12:25 PM
tellement de manières de dire "on est pas complèment de gros branleurs"
 
and British people
 
@edition and Canadian
 
blech
I'm cold and sick
 
@edition you r good in VBA ?
 
my boot is good in VBA
 
12:27 PM
:)
 
Our good old friend Sino came around
 
hahaha ;) I hope am not bothering you
 
Oh you weren't. But apparently some others were.
@LucDanton please, is branleur inclusive?
 
user1804599
Sino Weiba
 
branleurs it's swearword
I guess
 
12:30 PM
Yeah. Good guess.
 
Weiba ?
 
Weibo. Fix yer google skill
 
@sehe hohoho
 
I'm honestly unsure :)
2
 
lol
@sehe where u living?
 
12:33 PM
what u talking?
 
am talking to you :D
 
@sehe so am I
 
@orlp Overshifting, UB.
 
user1804599
Overshitting.
 
@sehe s/talking/stalking/
 
user1804599
12:34 PM
@LucDanton merry christmas
3
 
Happy valentine's day
 
you got a follower
 
@milleniumbug even when right shifting?
 
@EtiennedeMartel ARE YOU HERE ,
 
user1804599
AWK is awesome.
 
user1804599
12:39 PM
They could just as well have named it AWESOME
 
user1804599
AWKSOME
 
stop doing that.
 
what did he do?
 
just picked some random person to start pinging
 
12:41 PM
sometimes it sends mails
 
@milleniumbug that says it's defined
E1 >> E2
If E1 has an unsigned type or if E1 has a signed type and a non-negative value, the value of the result is the integral part of the quotient of E1/2^E2.
the integral part of 1 / 2^100 is 0
and is representable in uint64_t
 
> The behavior is undefined if the right operand is negative, or greater than or equal to the length in bits of the promoted left operand.
 
Do you guys know of a website or tool that allows me to place a bet on something, share a link to it with another person and then show the result of it?
 
@Zoidberg Perl is awesome. AWK is precisely not named Awesome because it is not Perl. Also AWK is closer to AWKward than to AWesome. :)
 
12:44 PM
Like flipping a coin virtually
I know there's random.org but it doesn't allow me to share the result.
 
@Shoe Interesting. Make it the next new social thing!
 
@Shoe I can show you a way to flip a coin virtually, securely
 
that's because sharing the result is meaningless
 
Become a billionaire.
 
user1804599
@Shoe NSFW
 
12:45 PM
you can just keep flipping virtual coins until you get the desired outcome, then share the link to just that one flip.
 
@Puppy You share the link to an unknown coin flip
 
@Shoe generate a random long string, like adjhdagjkashfkjbakjfehkfjehgjekahfejkah
 
Once one of the two decide to see what the result is, then it becomes public
 
user1804599
@Shoe Twitter poll results aren't visible until you make a choice.
 
then put "true" or "false" in front of it
 
12:46 PM
@Zoidberg lol, sounds fun! :D
 
and hash it, and give me the hash
 
@Shoe How would you possibly enforce that? You can't guarantee that you actually shared the link to this flip.
 
e.g. in Python
 
@Puppy So you can place your bets, verify that it's still private, and then click to see the result.
What you mean?
 
import hashlib; print(hashlib.sha256("truefebjkvebsoivbesiovbsovibsidovb").hexdigest())
you also choose true or false, and put some random garbage behind it
 
12:47 PM
@Puppy this is a wellknown scheme
 
@Shoe ready?
my hash is b804ddaa56ca2f0b1dcf71d52908e84b8f03bcc58fe92739efdcfb62a768ce34
 
;)
 
@Puppy Say we have to place a bet. I go to this website and I create a new unknown coin flip with a specific link. I give the link to you. Now we both have an unknown coin flip which is private. We bet on something. When we are ready one of us click to show the result and it becomes public.
 
Please don't ban me, peace & love
 
@Puppy my scheme works
 
12:48 PM
If you are worried that the other checked the result before betting, you can refresh the page and if the result became public than one of the users got to see the result.
 
@Shoe cmon gimme your hash
 
@orlp oh bby
 
once we both have publicly declared our hashes it's impossible for us to find another input with the same hash
 
Hash is unique
 
> TypeError: Unicode-objects must be encoded before hashing
 
12:50 PM
so we've 'locked in' our choice of true/false
 
user1804599
No, it's not unique.
 
user1804599
There are multiple values with the same hash.
 
@Shoe try Python 2 or b"trueashjfashfkasjk"
@Zoidberg but it's cryptographically impossible to find two values with the same hash :)
 
Here: 94472761a2486b0fac78d62f196e52dbb0429a53fb0d9ee10a8bc88e47cd09df
 
ok
 
12:51 PM
@orlp ++
 
now we both can not change our choices anymore, as that's cryptographically impossible
in a second we will both publish our inputs to the hash
 
Nice
 
if we both chose the same, I win
if we chose differently you win
(e.g. true/false you win, true/true I win)
falsesdhgkjsdhgkjsheguisehgiusdhgksdghseughsdjkb3wq was my input
you can verify that it hashes to b804ddaa56ca2f0b1dcf71d52908e84b8f03bcc58fe92739efdcfb62a768ce34, which is what I posted earlier
what was your input?
 
truefebjkvebsoivbesiovbsovibsidovb
I see
 
gz, you won :)
 
12:54 PM
Good idea
 
but you see that it would be impossible for you to go back on your choice?
so it really is 50/50
 
yup
 
(assuming we both randomly generated the true/false, otherwise you can abuse the human psyche)
 
Ven
Fun fun fun
 
@Ven Welcome to theLounge <C++> chat! Please review the room rules. Please don'task if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
12:57 PM
more random atting
 
Ven
@sino welcome to my plonk list
 
However, every time you kick him the entire room gets pinged :P
Or is it only the owners?
Not sure.
 
Only the owners
 
Ven
10k+
No?
 
Owners are usually 10k+ :)
 
12:58 PM
I am the counterexample
I own nothing
 
was he kicked?
 
worse lol
mod muted him
wait what
is it a bot?
in JavaScript - Spread Knowledge; Abolish Ignorance, 17 mins ago, by Caprica Six
@Sino Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Please don'task if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
6 mins ago, by Sino
@Ven Welcome to theLounge <C++> chat! Please review the room rules. Please don'task if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
What did he do now
 
Is he just copy pasting other peoples messages in the hope that they're relevant?
or what?
 
Basing something off JavaScript never yields anything good.
 
Ven
1:04 PM
Maybe just pasting starred shit?
 
troglobyte
 
I gave him a time out
Trolling 3 times in a row after being kicked 3 times in a row wasn't enough of a hint, apparently.
 
I thought I had Sino plonked
wait was he the infinisockpuppet guy?
 
dunno, who cares
Just plonk and move on
 
@orlp He knows :) He refuted Sino's comment
@MadaraUchiha thanks /cc @Puppy
 
1:08 PM
@Shoe I idid
 
@Shoe +2
 
I was just curious cuz I thought I did that already :P
 
@Borgleader me too
 
user image
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sweet :)
 
Surely creating a sock puppet account and posting something stupid here has much more overhead than me clicking the plonk button.
So he is in for a long ride.
 
1:12 PM
@fredoverflow New glittery face of computing.
 
Love should not be represented with function types though
Like love :: a -> b
Maybe it does
Like love :: Jefffrey -> Tony represents me loving tony
 
no that's not how functions work
:P
 
So shouldMarry x y = love x == y && love y == x for example
Actually, that's shouldFuck
shouldMarry _ = const False
 
I had a friend over, but I didn't have an extra high table
problem solved
 
why is there a sink next to your bed
 
1:24 PM
because I have a sink on my room?
 
@orlp creative
@fredoverflow If that's a ven diagram of sorts - the way I read it, "generics" is in, but "you are my type" is not
Also, wouldn't it be more accurate to say "dynamics aren't for me"? Oh well.
 
you are my type typo
 
Ell
@Shoe can you do shouldMarry = const False?
 
1:43 PM
@Ell that's not what he did; but sure you can
shouldMerry _ = const False is a -> b -> Bool
your version is a -> Bool
 
1:56 PM
Damn.
I so want some IO streams replacement!
Let's do a Lounge project!
Let's write a specification for IO streams replacement!
 
Yeah, let's not
 
@набиячлэвэлиь Why not?
 
Use Boost.IO
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, I do not want it to depend on Boost. :(
 
2:02 PM
@wilx because its a major pain in the butt
 
But I would certainly like it to be compatible with some of the Boost.IOStreams concepts, like the Device, Sink, Source, etc.
@Borgleader So is not having it! :)
 
What need is not covered by stl & boost io stuff?
 
@Borgleader The streambufs API is abysmal, both semantics and the API function names.
Boost is just too big for log4cplus.
I have previously successfully used Boost.IOStreams in an application where I could just import whole Boost source tree into Subversion.
But I do not want to do that with log4cplus. Not do I want to depend on it as a separate requirement.
 
user1804599
@wilx contribute to bitbucket.org/rightfold/io
 
transitive boost dependency introduced ™
 
user1804599
2:10 PM
Boost's I/O stream API sucks too, as it forces the use of C++ I/O streams.
 
user1804599
You need to design the replacement from the ground up, and only add C++ I/O stream interop at the very end as a separate independent library.
 
@Zoidberg It does not, IMHO. It only does that if you want to use the streams formatting.
 
Feb 6 at 12:56, by Alex M.
I'm out of sugar and all I have is this crazy strong espresso
I have acquired sugar
it looks very pretty
 
@Zoidberg I was thinking of basically only using C++ IO streams read() and write(), which means the theoretical library would have to ship with own formatting library parts.
 
user1804599
This shows the concepts (reader, writer, seeker) of my design: bitbucket.org/rightfold/io/src/…
 
user1804599
2:12 PM
I don't get the obsession of adding formatting into an I/O stream library. It's a completely different level of abstraction that you should build on top of an I/O stream library.
 
@Zoidberg Sure. But for an IO library to be useful you have to have some formatting capability, either on top or built in.
 
user1804599
Not built-in.
 
user1804599
Built-in is always wrong.
 
user1804599
It must be separate.
 
user1804599
I/O stream musts not know about encoding and whitespace and newlines and everything.
 
user1804599
2:14 PM
They must know only about bytes.
 
user1804599
Any data format other than byte arrays is out of the scope of an I/O stream library.
 
user1804599
It must go into a separate library that may depend on the I/O stream library.
 
user1804599
Only then it is possible to make it easy to define custom I/O streams and automatically have any formatting stuff work with it.
 
user1804599
Also, with a flexible design like mine, the I/O streams need not give a shit about buffering. They don't need to do buffering, since the streams are so easy to compose even a braindamaged programmer can pass a stream into a buffering decorator (that has to be implemented only once ever).
 
Hmm...
I am looking at your IO library.
 
user1804599
2:23 PM
I have yet to document the three important concepts (reader, writer, seeker).
 
I'm wearing a kilt above my sarouel. It's like the final boss f comfy :3
 
user1804599
Readers have a single method char* read(char* begin, char* end) that fill the given range and return a pointer to the one-past-the-last-filled char.
 
user1804599
Writers have a single method char const* write(char const* begin, char const* end) that writes the given range and returns a pointer to one-past-the-last-written char.
 
user1804599
These aren't very convenient to use but they are incredibly easy to implement, which is much more important because you can build convenient interfaces on top of the simple concepts.
 
@Morwenn oh, alladin pants :P
 
2:29 PM
@Borgleader Mine is more like samurai pants.
 
@ElimGarak Lachrous
 
user1804599
I'll add some issues to the bug tracker on Bitbucket about TODOs.
 
looool I just discovered that labs for this thing are mandatory and I have to do them until tuesday
RIP
 
@ThePhD Great fucking success \o/
 
on the other hand, it's about writing parsers and compilers and whatnot
I can use haskell for this
should be ez
 
2:32 PM
Damn, that remix *-*
I liked the original, but that remix is actually even better.
Even though it's just the original slowed down.
 
@Morwenn I'm a samurai in my pants ;)
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
 
I've got a samurai in my pants.
 
user1804599
<script>alert("Merry XSS!");</script>
 
user1804599
:(
 
user1804599
I wanna learn this mozart.github.io /cc @Ven
 
2:49 PM
NSFW if you need ideas for Valentine day.
 
If someone works on a Sunday, his work is not safe.
 
not even hitler worked sundays
 
@nick ^
 
steam doesn't seem to have an auto-buy on release option
 
thank god gaben
 
3:01 PM
I don't think gaben was aware of nekopara's existence when he set that rule
 
3:23 PM
@ScarletAmaranth But if you give shouldMarry :: a -> b -> Bool then I think that it can deduce the a in const :: b -> a -> b as a -> b.
 
@Zoidberg Which is exactly what iostreams did/do. Not that it's surprising that having been told this only, like, a hundred times, you continue to ignore it.
 
@ScarletAmaranth @ElimGarak it seems the lamborghini pic was from Die Another Day
just noticed it
while watching
OP was full of shit that day
 
user1804599
3:45 PM
Cool you can convert existential types to universal types.
 
user1804599
Using DeMorgan's laws.
 
first it's De Morgan
 
the reddit thread with the cars is locked
I CANNOT TELL OP THAT HE'S FULL OF SHIT
I WANT TO TELL OP THAT HE'S FULL OF SHIT
my hands burn
I have to
I MUST
 
stop flagging me you patriotic old man
 
3:53 PM
some retard
 
I'll hunt this guy down
and spray some text on his windows
"why do you lie"
"your anti-NK propaganda is worse than NK's anti-US propaganda"
 
what's the thread?
 
go to /r/northkorea
and search for "cars"
it's probably the first result or so
it's an archived thread
 
yes
now follow the message I replied to originally above
and see the original imgur album
next, try to see if you can find it in those results
do you want me to TeamViewer into your PC and do it manually for you, granny?
 
3:57 PM
idgi
 
Was that so difficult to go "History > Link" and paste the link here?
jerk
 
you could've just clicked the first result you know
3 mins ago, by Alex M.
it's probably the first result or so
 
I did
It did not contain the picture you posted earlier
 
> HK-55 defeated by Lachrous's Companion with Kill Target (0 damage)
 
of course not
 
3:59 PM
silly swtor, HK-55 is my companion
 
there's a message I replied to
just click the arrow for context
26 mins ago, by Alex M.
@ScarletAmaranth @ElimGarak it seems the lamborghini pic was from Die Another Day
 
all I see is a picture of cars immatriculated in pyongyang
 
that's the message in which I replied to
 
seems very NKish to me
 
THERE'S NO FUCKING LAMBORGINI IN THAT REDDIT THREAD
 
3:59 PM
fine, there isn't
 

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