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11:00 AM
@StackedCrooked Now you can't not tell us.
 
@JohanLarsson Seems good. Not sure what feedback you expect.
 
11:17 AM
:D
^ @R.MartinhoFernandes, something for our resident linguist. :)
This is retarded. Especially so, for somebody who has an ID since like 15 years old and has to use it everywhere.
 
> why even bother having voter ID laws
because not having them is retarded
and not having a photo ID at all is retarded
next!
 
Buh.
@Griwes How do you write macros / templates in Vapor?
 
@ThePhD Macros? No idea yet, but those will be functions operating on internal AST nodes.
 
user1804599
@wilx lol MTV
 
Templates? with (foo : type) function some_function(x : foo) => x;
 
user1804599
11:29 AM
lol templates
 
In case of types with (...) just resolves to a function that takes things and returns other things.
I don't exactly know how it's going to work for functions, since I want to be able to both explicitly specialize the arguments and call the function with pattern matching.
Maybe I'll just have with (...) for explicit arguments and placeholder in types for implicit ones.
Still open for bikeshedding.
 
@Dominico909 lol
 
I figured out that you can't use / to divide
but have to use div
 
Hi. Why the not aligned std::atomic<uint32_t> is (true == is_lock_free())? Does x86 arch support atomic MOV to not-aligned memory?
 
11:40 AM
next step: breeding chickens in space
prep 4 mission 2 Mars
 
How is this related to C++?
 
u r nu, ain't ya?
Trollololo
 
@pavelkolodin You are new here, aren’t you.
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Where is the rule allowing to be stupid idiot when you are old?
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@pavelkolodin Yes.
 
11:45 AM
@pavelkolodin You are turning me into a grammar nazi ... English isn't your first language is it??
 
Aligned accesses are always atomic; non-aligned can have a lock prefix that makes them atomic, locking the bus for both accesses that need to be physically done.
 
@Telkitty how is this related to C++? Ahaha, you are so stupid.
 
Ven
Ahaha
 
@pavelkolodin also, you need to widen your vocabulary
you are a stupid dumb retarded ass <--- see, many adjectives
 
Ven
Kids these days.
 
11:47 AM
Isn't the Lounge supposed to be dead?
 
we are undead
 
Oct 7 '15 at 15:19, by Griwes
HOW TO BOLT CLOCKS
 
@BoltClock handwave This is not the Lounge you are looking for.
 
He maybe new but he's getting up to speed pretty fast. Only a few minutes and already ripping off on telkitty
 
user1804599
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 58 minutes.
 
user1804599
11:49 AM
yay
 
and suspended ...
now I feel bad
 
user1804599
Yeah, you should get suspended too.
 
oh come on
 
user1804599
Suspend everybody.
 
@Telkitty Get thicker skin.
 
11:50 AM
@Telkitty I mean, he did say "Ban the fucking idiot."
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@wilx I used to have thicker skin, then I was away from the internet for a while & my thick skin thinned
 
my star on @BoltClock's message was a valid one
 
@BoltClock clever ... he just didn't realise who is the f***ing idiot
 
Oh this keeps getting better
 
11:52 AM
 
@Telkitty When were you away? What have they done to you in China⁈
 
@BoltClock I go read the news again and come back to this sigh
 
@Aaron3468 If it were like that I would still be married. Or from the other end, I would be unemployed several years at a time… This is so sad…
 
Danishes for Denmark
 
I ate this caesar salad
mmm
 
11:58 AM
@AlexM. Was it made of caesars?
 
you brutus
 
user1804599
@wilx hero
 
user1804599
Unfalsifiable :D
 
I think I have a problem - I subconsciously move away from people as soon as they show any sign of intimacy (like wanting to touch me in anyway). Some of those people are even very close female relatives. What to do?
I do this on a subconscious level, I don't want to make them feeling shunned in anyways.
 
nwp
@Telkitty Find friends that are the same or don't mind.
 
12:06 PM
My friends usually give me space
 
nwp
I have a friend that I sometimes don't hear from for months. Other friends had issues with that and were too clingy and lost her.
Some people accept that you can be friends without contacting each other at least once a week, others do not.
(I assume "moving away from them" means not being with them for a month or so)
 
did I miss drama
 
Ven
yes
 
lol
Building a simple hello world react program takes 3 minutes
 
Ven
12:14 PM
almost as bad as scala
 
nwp
Webscale man!
 
user1804599
lol Scala
 
@Shoe just wait for modules
 
@AndyProwl JS and C++ people united in waiting for modules
 
C++ modules are so powerful they'll solve JS problems
 
12:21 PM
they transcend languages
 
@AndyProwl modeules are broken
 
modlulz
 
@GundolfGundelfinger you bet your faggitty ass you did! :D
 
just remember to make your modlulz tyep sfae
 
Doesn't matter, modules are borked and don't respect type safety
 
12:26 PM
@thecoshman reported
 
if I werent at work I'd still be laughing lol
 
@GundolfGundelfinger that triggers me. You have offended my sense of freedom
 
"C++ modules are so powerful" like modules get added
and JS programmers inexplicably can now use modules too
my favorite kind of jokes that make no sense
hahaha
 
@Telkitty More sex. Everything is solved by more sex.
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12:29 PM
@wilx except aids
 
@thecoshman I said everything!
 
@wilx well, it's worth a shot, get me a tub a Vaseline and some 7 year old boys
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That moment when SO chat is more explicit than Discord chat
 
@набиячлэвэли come here, Pirate's looking for you
 
he said boys
 
12:33 PM
Ouch
 
wow we found a new jerry
 
nwp
> Scientists now think immunity may be reliant on continued exposure - once regular contact with HIV stops, immunity is lost.
so more sex apparently is the answer after all
 
well then, fuck everyone. you might cure aids, but either way you get to fuck everyone
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Space or no space, would be awesome with a superstar comment!
 
12:36 PM
@nwp that's suggesting a steady level of sex
 
Please keep discussion civil & professional at all times
Lest I must call in a moderator
 
@JohanLarsson flag because off topic
 
We are clearly having a mature discussion about fucking the world
 
nwp
@thecoshman there are probably other ways of "exposure"
 
12:38 PM
@GundolfGundelfinger You cannot have both civil and professional at the same time.
 
nwp
maybe the AIDS vaccine way to prevent AIDS is just HIV pressed into pills
that would be pretty ironic
 
@wilx the civil service fool
@nwp you canny vaccinate against AIDS
 
@AndyProwl: Now I can see the history but cannot write there.
 
shit
oh wait
 
@thecoshman Russia wins the game: apparently they have a new weapon sufficient to blow any European country.
 
12:39 PM
that might be normal
how about other channels?
 
@Morwenn What is the difference from previously existing thousands of nukes?
 
@wilx bigger blows
 
@wilx It could only nuke a region at once, not the whole country.
 
@Morwenn I like the personal touch though
 
But damn nuking a whole country with a single bomb?
That's kinda impressive.
 
12:42 PM
Why though?
 
I'm not even mad :P
 
@StackedCrooked now imagine what a married bomb could do!
 
if Russia built a nuke the size of Russia, they could drop it unto themselves
and destroy all other countries in the process
 
a single bomb vs a couple of bombs
 
a nuke the size of russia would probably obliterate the planet
 
12:44 PM
can you imagine if every country worked together for a common goal
like exploring space and maintaining our planet
instead of building bigger weapons
to stop each other from using them
 
@StackedCrooked not really, small country
 
@AlexM. You're an utopist. I like that.
 
@Ven does not like me :(
 
imagine eagle eats grass for a living ...
 
@AlexM. Especially considering that space stuff is probably still way cheaper than the bigger weapons which are not even meant to be used.
 
12:45 PM
@GundolfGundelfinger fyi, I don't really check discord on my phone, so y'all better of @ing me
 
but put a condom on the '@' first
 
ADG
I'm getting random Segmentation faults which do not occur when I use gdb
they happen sometime, sometimes they don't
 
@Morwenn ikr
 
ADG
segmentation faults ->0011110001.. for a deterministic algorithm and data :( wtf!
what should I check?
 
@ADG Check you privilege. And also your UB.
 
nwp
12:48 PM
@ADG this or this
 
check your cat
 
check this box: ☐
 
nice box
 
nwp
sometimes I wish debuggers wouldn't try to help by initializing stuff to 0
 
@ADG debugging tends to initialise things better (well, debug builds) so make sure you're not doing bad things
@nwp it's not the debuggers that do that, it's the debug builds
 
ADG
12:51 PM
to be precise i'm inserting exactly everytime 79,65,67,43,47 and then removing each element in this order only and inserting back in my red black tree implementation that is supposed to be deterministic!
I'll try to remove -g
 
@nwp They sometimes help by initializing stuff to CCCCCCC or F0F0F0F0 etc.
@ADG Well, you are mishandling some pointers somewhere.
 
ADG
@wilx Thanks wilx, I'll check for that.
 
nwp
@ADG consider using sanitizers and linters instead of looking through the code
 
ADG
@nwp like cppcheck?
 
nwp
cppcheck is pretty bad in my experience. Try if you can compile with -fsanitize=undefined.
 
ADG
12:54 PM
what does it do?
 
nwp
it makes the compiler add code to your program that checks for undefined behavior before it happens and dump information when it does
 
ADG
looks good
 
user1804599
C++ modules: making linking even more complex, broken, and horrible.
 
ADG
@nwp dound it thanks a lot
'member access with null pointer'
@wilx thank you too
 
Geebus, just step through the code around/before the segfault.
 
ADG
12:59 PM
It is fixed now
santiziers are awesome
 
@ADG member C style caaaasts? Oooooh I member
 
ADG
theoretically the node should not be null! but it was just added a if(x!=null)
 
 
@ADG valgrind, asan
 
ADG
@asan?
heard that valgrind gives time profiling
 
1:04 PM
@Luc @Griwes Can we resume that bikeshed where I am a dipshit
 
It's usually hard due to me being plonked by Luc.
 
If I mmap a file, reinterpret its lovely bytes into an almost-POD (everything trivial except construction), is it still UB?
@Griwes Oh yeah I forgot that.
Well If I made it out of Luc's bottomless plonklist, surely you too can.
 
@rightfold and breaking type-safety
@GundolfGundelfinger o_0 how is a type almost-pod except that bit?
 
Even std::launder requires the object to be in its lifetime so that doesn't help
 
@GundolfGundelfinger It depends on the platform you are running on. On some platforms, you might not be able to access unaligned data, which can happen in the file.
 
1:06 PM
@GundolfGundelfinger Pretty sure it's UB in C++17, not sure about before if it has a non-trivial ctor.
@GundolfGundelfinger It requires an object, that implies it's within its lifetime. :P
@wilx We are talking the C++ abstract machine.
 
@Luc @GundolfGundelfinger is officially requesting a trial period off your plonk list
 
:P
 
@wilx Assume alignment is fine. It's just bytes that are provided from outside the C++ machine, but were a valid object in "some other C++ machine".
 
Hm…
 
@GundolfGundelfinger That last part is irrelevant.
C++ has no provisions for communicating between two different instances of the abstract machine.
 
1:08 PM
right
am just trying to explain
 
@GundolfGundelfinger I wouldn't think so... if you are presuming that the bytes are valid...
 
@Griwes That's bad
 
(It doesn't have any convisions either.)
 
1:25 PM
It is quite unexpected to hear/read that from Moore.
 
user1804599
Moore also said computers went twice as fast every 18 months, but mine only got slower.
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@rightfold lol
 
Ven
funny joke rightfold wow
 
user1804599
I hope Trump wins.
 
user1804599
A celebration against SJWs.
 
1:28 PM
@rightfold some of us have to live here, thanks
 
user1804599
Deliciously crying millennials.
 
@rightfold It would be interesting to see him win and then be a decent president. But I guess that is unlikely.
@rightfold Yeah, that would be awesome.
 
user1804599
Trump is a moron.
 
@rightfold And Hillary is a sociopath. What is worse when it is the USA president we are talking about? :)
 
user1804599
Btw the fancy metal tags for the #MicrosoftEvent can pretty much double as kitchen knives 🧀🔪 http://tnw.to/microsoftevent https://t.co/OWQFQ5ADdT
 
user1804599
1:31 PM
Evil Microsoft.
 
user1804599
Bill Gates for president.
 
@rightfold onyl because dumb programmers made them do more than twice as much work every 18 months (got to spy on you somehow)
 
user1804599
@ratchetfreak I've been running the same software for years.
 
@wilx ...how the fuck did you arrive at that conclusion
Did I miss you getting a degree in psychology or something like that?
 
Ven
sigh
this guy
 
user1804599
1:38 PM
@Ven Whom?
 
@rightfold Me. He has me plonked.
 
user1804599
@wilx Hillary is a witch.
 
@Griwes Do I need to have a degree to have a (arguably unfounded and stupid) opinion? :)
 
Good you at least see that it's probably stupid. :P
 
@Griwes: Dunno, man. She apparently flipflops on her opinions as she needs to get votes: Why Clinton’s flip-flop on trade is so unbelievable | MSNBC
Even if only half of the opinion changes she is being accused of were true…
imgur.com/gallery/yZ0LZDP — How many of these are not true or insubstantial or justifiable?
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Bear in mind that I am not from there and all my information is second hand.
 
1:49 PM
@wilx meh
she's a politician, what else is new to you
 
@Griwes There are politicians who are consistent with their expressed opinions and policies.
 
So, Canada is definitely in the top of 3 of North America's best countries.
 
Ven
ew.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Second after USA before Mexico? :)
 
@wilx And they are typically really bad (exhibit A: Korwin-Mikke, for the most part).
 
user1804599
1:51 PM
Give crisps.
 
@Griwes Can I “meh, he [Trump] is just a male politician” too on his pussy grabbing stunts? :)
 
@wilx NO.
As a male, I feel offended by you even suggesting saying that.
 
@Griwes You are not a politician, why should you be offended?
 
The ten stages of programming language adoption https://t.co/lbOtBY8wDQ
 
1:55 PM
Because it's not a characteristic trait of polticians to behave like sexual offenders.
 
Rightfold skips right to 4 and then loses interest entirely.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Sounds like Bartek. :D
 
Also lol just because he's running for presidency he's now a politician?
There's politicians, there's bad politicians, and Trump is waaaay below those.
 
@Griwes Isn’t he? By definition of running for political office?
 
@wilx I'm using the more linguistically proper interpretation of that word to try to bring some sense into debate about things.
 
1:57 PM
lol
@Griwes Are you a linguist now? :)
 
@wilx Ah yes, "here's 50ish examples among countless thousands, so this is clearly a characteristic trait!". This is truly a plonkable offence.
 
Heh.
Plonkable?
Trump is a horrible candidate, but so is Hillary.
 
There's no comparison, lol.
There's no relevant category in which Hillary really loses with Trump.
 
@Griwes Lack of national security related scandals on his part?
 
@wilx That's only because he has no access to any national security related materials. lol
 
user1804599
2:07 PM
Dark humor is like food, not everybody has it.
 
Ven
everyone, not everybody
 
@Griwes It's a characteristic trait of power hungry people, though. If you have power over others, and you like to use it, then it's only natural that pesky things like consent are optional for you.
 
> To electronically transmit classified information, State Department employees must use a specific closed system, not their usual @state.gov email addresses. Clinton has said she viewed classified information in hard copy in her office, and she used other secure channels when traveling.
> Some emails now made public actually show Clinton’s team discussing how they couldn’t email each other classified information over the private server and instead had to move the conversation to a more appropriate venue.
vOv
 
@wilx vOv
I find that while what she did was a dumb thing to do, it's one of those things that have been blown out to enormous sizes for no good reason.
 
2:16 PM
@Griwes No good reason? Are you joking?
 
No.
 
@Griwes The original action may well have been a mistake, and ultimately not all that big of one. But let's consider what's happened since. She claims that she instructed her staff to cooperate with the FBI investigation. Lacking proof to the contrary, this absolves her of criminal culpability. But let's think it through in more detail. I see three basic possibilities: 1) even for a trivially simple message like "cooperate", she communicated so badly that they received the opposite message.
2) She's chose such incompetent staff that even though they tried to cooperate, they failed. 3) She chose such traitorous staff that they intentionally obstructed justice, even though they knew she wanted them to cooperate.
 
Dunno. From what I understand the FBI got what they wanted.
 
Well, of course, there's also choice number 4, which anybody with an IQ higher than his shoe size just about has to suspect is mostly the case: when she claims she told them to cooperate, she's actually lying.
 
That's actually the original Japanese version of A Million Random Digits, which is much better than the American remake the book was based on.
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2:27 PM
@Griwes The FBI got some evidence. We don't have any way of knowing exactly how much more evidence there may have been that the FBI never saw/got.
 
Damn, 3 start on star board in a single day. That is unlike me.
Me/I?
 
I wonder if you can mod farming simulator 17
to add things like sensors
 
@AlexM. Undoubtedly depends on how much work you're willing to put into it.
 
@JerryCoffin oook
 
so you can write an AI that controls things
that would be cool like a playground to simulate self-driving tractors and such
 
@wilx So, how good is it compared to ZBrush?
 
user1804599
Paint is awesome.
 
@wilx I don't know about "not true", but at least a couple of those are merely: "at one time she didn't have a clear, publicly-stated stance on this issue, and now she does." A few more are basically: "when she was part of the Obama administration, we assume she supported his stance, even though she never said so." There are some real flip-flops there, but they're mixed with quite a bit that doesn't show any real change of position on her part.
 
@rightfold MS Paint is only good for lying about how you spent X thousands of hours doing something in it. :)
@JerryCoffin OK.
 
> "The biggest update most retarded replacement to date"
 
2:45 PM
> Microsoft envisions these creations will be viewed on the HoloLens.
that's the leading reason most likely
looks cool if it's bundled with the OS and free it won't hurt anyone
 
Jesus fuck
2016 it's still hard to find a fucking software to fucking convert a .mkv to .avi
 
@Shoe Why would you even try that?
@Shoe Exactly because it is 2016 you should be using mkv instead of avi.
 
@Shoe I used this with success vidcoder.codeplex.com
 
Irrelevant. Finding a software to convert between formats is the issue
 
be careful with the options if you have embedded subtitles it's a bit wonky there
 
2:50 PM
I have multi audio and multi subs
 
for some animes I had to burn the subtitles in during conversion but I didn't look too far
maybe you'll have more patience
 
@AlexM. Windoz :C
 
so it has support for all that stuff but you have to explore stuff, it's not too bad
 
Let's try Handbrake I guess
 
@Shoe ffmpeg then? Or avconv or whatever is the tool?
VLC might work as well.
 
2:52 PM
Tried VLC and it fucks everything up
Like the video is fucked up, the audios seem merged or something
 
user1804599
@Shoe Pretty easy to find: encrypted.google.com/…
 
what's that encrypted.google thingy?
 
user1804599
I don't know.
 
@Shoe: What about Avidemux?
@Shoe Just a HTTPS endpoint.
 
are .mp4 read by tvs?
i guess we'll find out
 

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