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5:00 PM
@AlexM. surely you mean being dependent on it
 
@JerryCoffin That's true. They are still objectively bad sometimes.
But once you've been working with them a while you start to get this instinct about where the problem is.
You still feel the awfulness when that instinct is wrong, though. :-/
 
@Mr.kbok no the point of it was that it's not a desirable skill since if you have to debug it means you didn't pay enough attention beforehand
in the same idea, I'm sorry caps is good at reading template-powered error messages
I wouldn't want to be him
 
lol
 
anyway
 
@milleniumbug nice onebox
 
5:01 PM
taking it out of context results in an extremist idea
and like all extremist ideas they're not rooted in reality at all
:P
 
being good at debugging is good since you'll be debugging bad code written by other people
 
yea, main point against it
if you're the only one writing code, sure
otherwise, you'll have to be good at debugging
and expect the worst at all times
all it takes is some guy (maybe you) not feeling like putting in the extra effort today because who knows reasons
or a tight deadline and someone from another team being brought urgently to help
of course what he'll write will fit like a cube in a circular slot
 
@PravasiMeet I'm having a bit of déja vu
 
@Borgleader bby I need your help
 
I'm here bby
 
Ell
5:08 PM
my new kernel won't boot
6
why not
 
@AngryLettuce rescue me from code with no ownership semantics worth anything
I need some love
 
<3 <3 <3
 
also have some kittens: :3 :3 :3
 
@Ell another kernel recompile?
 
Ell
5:09 PM
yeah
 
@TonyTheLion what are proper design practices nobody knows
 
Ell
well, I haven't done one in a while
and it seems my kernel sources are somewhat borked
so I need a new kernel
 
@AngryLettuce this is quite apparent that this knowledge is widely lacking
@Ell ell problems
 
Kernels are to Ell what transpose matrices are to ThePhD
 
@AngryLettuce and what shitty code is to Finance Industry
 
5:11 PM
Shitty code is to the finance industry what water is to an ocean
 
@Ell by "not done in a while" you mean "not even a month ago"
 
Ell
haha no it was at least a month ago
 
@Ell That's the normal state of affairs for Linux.
 
I'm as deep in philosophical thoughts right now as I was in your mom last night
ban incoming
 
Dec 19 '15 at 17:04, by Ell
I need to recompile kernel for WiFi dongle
 
5:13 PM
Ell is really an uber nerd
 
@TonyTheLion <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
 
Ell
@milleniumbug Oh yeah I didn't end up doing that :P
 
@Borgleader awww thanks :) :D <3
 
@AngryLettuce your comparisons are to literature what whales are to an ocean
 
Varied and in danger of extinction?
 
5:15 PM
Windows is terrible, Linux can't hardware, can't program OpenGL on a VM
what do
 
give up and pickup botany
 
@AngryLettuce I think the meaning was quite clear really
 
I was going to say that
 
@milleniumbug Time for Lounge<OS>.
 
5:15 PM
makes sense
 
@LucDanton That's my literal interpretation I promise
 
@JerryCoffin superior successor to TempleOS, Template OS
 
Ell
@milleniumbug linux can certainly hardware
I just choose for it not to hardware :P
 
@milleniumbug why not MosqueOS
 
@LucDanton inb4 someone makes a comment that lands us on meta again
 
5:18 PM
@Borgleader I will make sure that doesn't happen
 
@Borgleader penises are a form of male oppression
 
@TonyTheLion i know youll keep me safe :)
 
@Borgleader always
 
@Ell Last time I run Fedora on my computer (previous year in August), it didn't support DisplayLink, Factorio can't vsync (this one may be the fault of i3 which apparently can't composite), computer doesn't turn off by itself, hibernation didn't work
 
@jaggedSpire If I have my way I'll have 6 courses. (Before you get frowny-face on me, the credit counts for them are high enough that if I take even 1 more I'll be over the credit limit).
 
5:19 PM
and so on
 
@AngryLettuce so if that is the case, and considering they are an essential part to being male, how does one come to a resolution of this problem?
 
@ThePhD Youre above 5, gfl :)
 
@Borgleader Something happened to put us on meta related to religion?
 
@ThePhD Not yet, notice inb4
 
@TonyTheLion ban penises
 
5:21 PM
@Borgleader Oh.
 
@AngryLettuce lol
 
a few days ago someone explained to me why the apparition of 2 genders is an inevitable consequence of evolution and I found that very interesting
 
apparition?
As in, the creation of 2 genders?
 
apparition: a remarkable or unexpected appearance of someone or something.
 
what, is that not correct english
 
It's technically correct.
Just funny to use the word apparition there.
 
@AngryLettuce apparition: the act of becoming visible
I guess its more this one
 
okay well then I don't know the proper word but you get the idea
 
Also, too many animals in the world require 2 of the same species but with two different sets of physical characteristics.
So you'd have to invent a category for that.
 
5:23 PM
I don't understand
 
And even if NO animals require it, we do as human beings, so it'd be pretty important (societally) to make 2 genders for at least us, since that is how we propagate the species forward.
 
no the creation of 2 genders is a logical consequence of evolution and competition
 
Oh. That I'm not sure of.
 
well his explanation is very convincing and it's apparently generally agreed upon
 
Ven
Lol, building bison hardcodes paths in the generated binary. Even with the --enable-rpath flag...
 
5:25 PM
@ell i just got the msft surface book, youd love it
 
he also said 2 genders works, more than 2 don't
 
what's happening?
 
Ell
@milleniumbug I usually prefer it when my computer doesn't turn off by itsself :P
 
I expected this response
 
Well. Teams > singles, so from a competition standpoint a self-impregnating hermaphrodite could only ensure they and their offspring survive by either A) having lots of their own children and B) defending/feeding all of those children. Having 2 people split those responsibilities is pretty much always better than putting the burden on one.
 
Ell
5:26 PM
@milleniumbug it was a joke man
 
user406009
@ThePhD I don't think that's really an issue.
 
No it's not even that @ThePhD
 
You can imagine, however, how having 3 people required for reproduction would start to go awry.
@AngryLettuce Oh, welll, I can't guess the reasoning then.
 
user406009
The main benefit of 2 genders is better evolution through more genetic combinations.
 
@Ell I knew that
 
5:27 PM
First things are simple, you have an organism that reproduces without external intervention, just by duplicating itself
 
Ell
@nick why, what's wrong with it? :P
 
Much like shitty questions on SO
 
user406009
As a previous premed, shouldn't you know these things ThePhD :P
 
And while this works well (see bacteria etc) it has the disadvantage that nefarious mutations stack up very quickly and you need a mechanism to remove them
One possible mechanism is merging your genome with another individual's and that works well (that's sex with only 1 gender)
 
@Ell linux support 2/10
 
Ell
5:28 PM
@nick :(
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce Removing is easy. The weak die off.
 
So you've got 2 individuals of the same gender producing "better" offspring than if they were just cloning themselves
 
user406009
The more difficult part is ensuring that "good" mutations spread throughout.
 
@Lalaland Yeah but it's a waste of resources
 
user406009
5:29 PM
In single celled organisms like bacteria, plasmids carry out that role.
 
user406009
However, that wouldn't really work for a large multi-cellular organism.
 
@JerryCoffin The downvote is mine. Please mention or link the DR and it'll be gone. (As is, it implies wrong things IMO. We've discussed that right above it.)
 
yes we know we're not talking about bacteria because they have a different solution to the problem
 
@AngryLettuce the two genders allow for genetic optimization while specializing roles for individuals
 
So, these 2 individuals collaborating for the creation of a third put resources in common ('eggs' or whatever)
But inevitably one side of the exchange will start 'cheating' (ie, send out eggs with less energy, so they can produce more) that is at the expense of the other partnerr
So the partner, to be competitive, needs to find a strategy to compensate for the other 'cheating' the sex game
And that's how you get the 2 genders
I borked his explanation completely
But you get the idea
Anyone wants sex now??
 
5:32 PM
you did indeed
no
@AngryLettuce no, cuz you need two genders
 
@AngryLettuce yes me but not with u bby
 
@Mr.kbok you homophobe
 
can I have mitosis instead
 
@AngryLettuce no i am biologist expert
 
@Columbo The downvote is stupid, and you're being an ass. It answers the question that was asked completely and accurately. The DR is interesting, and may someday become relevant, but at the present time, it's nothing more than a statement that somebody else has noticed that it's prohibited, and doesn't think it should be (and the fact that both you and I agree with him doesn't change that).
 
5:33 PM
Pas de bras pas de chocolat, pas de mitose pas de mycose
 
no bra no chocolate
no mitosis no gainz
 
Tant va la cruche à l'eau qu'à la fin elle est pleine
 
baguette
 
@Ell it's not that it's super special hardware or anything, most of it's fairly generic. But it's quite unique- there's 2 batteries, screen is detached by software (thus requiring dedicated support on linux), screen is meant to auto-rotate based off accelerometer data, and the GPU is in the base so it would require switching to dedicated every time you detach
 
Tant va Saïd à la mosquée qu'à la fin il se fait péter
 
5:34 PM
ouch
 
What's a GPU
 
jsavais pas que y’avait des mosquées comme ça
 
@Elim pls respond
 
also the dedicated GPU is a custom piece by Nvidia so i'm not sure if their generic driver would support it
 
Ven
ehbahc'estbien
 
5:35 PM
@LucDanton ça se prononce mosgay
 
Nov 23 '15 at 14:05, by Gregor McGregor
Trying to batch potato production through the use of GPUs (General Potato Units)
 
c’est intégré avec un sauna pour les ablutions avant la prière c’est ça
 
Gregor being helpful
Ablution c'est joli comme mot ça donne envie d'en faire
 
> Ablution is pretty as word it makes you want to do
 
I can't sleep jfc
 
5:37 PM
What? I can't read all those messages. Is this French? .____.
 
Google translate fail
 
@JerryCoffin Your answer itself would needlessly make the OP look for alternatives while his current code is intended to work fine (and will in practice). Your answer is neither complete nor accurate. It is incomplete by language-lawyering without consideration of (very) relevant DRs. It isn't accurate because it's implicit conclusion is based on defective parts of the standard.
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce Step one. Turn off the computer.
 
That'd hurt its feelings
 
@AngryLettuce Go out and take a walk, try sleep again.
 
5:38 PM
@AngryLettuce get drunk
 
And yes, I am certain to the extent that I will downvote answers that think otherwise. BIGOTRY FTW!
 
lol people arguing about downvotes
can we have arguments about grains of sands that'd be constructive too
 
@AngryLettuce nah that would go against the grain of productivity
 
@AngryLettuce When is it too big to be considered a grain of sand?
 
I'll see myself out
 
5:40 PM
anyone have the meetup sheet where we mark who's met who
 
@AngryLettuce @thecoshman has this
but since he rarely comes here, good luck getting access to it
 
I'll ask him on skyep
 
he seems to be on IRC
 
@Columbo You are, of course, free to downvote as you see fit. Your attempts at self-justification are noted but found wanting. I haven't asked you to change your downvote, and I won't do so--but that doesn't change that fact that it's stupid and you're being an ass.
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce Wait, are you chillin with nick now?
 
5:42 PM
niiiiiiiiiiiiickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
 
No we "had dinner" earlier
 
that reminds me that we haven't mumbled yet in 2016
 
user406009
Also, we have yet to add Nooble2016 to our description, tags, or room name.
 
@AngryLettuce aka sex
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Scott Meyers's retirement home [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq] [nooble2016]
@Lalaland done
 
5:45 PM
Also can confirm that nick asked for forks to eat noodles
 
lier
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce That's because forks are superior to chopsticks in almost every way.
 
user406009
The only food where it sorta makes sense is sushi.
 
Ell
@nick I'm amazed the AMD open source driver worked out of the box on the PS4
 
@Lalaland Oh yeah? Well I'd much rather have a chopstick in the urethra rather than a fork
 
Ell
5:47 PM
maybe they'd have the same luck with nvidia
 
@Ell lol what
 
I opened the window now there's a mosquito in my room ffs
mosque-to
praise allah the bloodpumping
 
you need one of those meshes you can put in the window
 
@Ell it might, i think a lot of the patches related to the Surface have moved upstream (at least for ubuntu)
 
that prevents bugs coming in
 
5:48 PM
might work without needing additional drivers but i doubt it
@AngryLettuce lol that reminds me, I turned on the dehumidifier before I left and when I came back the room was humid as fuck and I had a full tank of water
drank that shit cuz gotta conserve water you know
 
user406009
@nick That's disgusting.
 
its literally water pulled from the air
 
Filled with air-germs.
 
user406009
I would worry about the cleanliness of the machinery.
 
5:52 PM
nah I poured it down the sink like a respectable gentleman
 
@Lalaland As long as the machinery's clean, it's literally distilled water.
 
@nick You'll never survive as a Fremen.
 
@JerryCoffin yeah I probably wouldn't
 
user1804599
Yummy.
 
user1804599
5:56 PM
Vinegar.
 
i'd be expected to sacrifice myself on a moment's notice
not about that lifestyle
 
what are you gweilo doing up so late
 
lol
i'm off soon i need to sleep
 
@nick so as a SF hipster, how are you finding the HK hipsters?
 
user1804599
@Ven have you tried jetbrains.com/mps?
 
Ell
6:03 PM
lol at this driving license photo i.imgur.com/F5LWufS.jpg [reddit creddit]
 
@TonyTheLion 2/10
 
@nick kek
this guy has it figured out
woah
> Until now anything containing less than 10% alcohol in Russia has been considered a foodstuff.
everything makes sense
 
Are whites really a minority? Discuss.
 
user406009
@AngryLettuce That depends on who you consider white and what specific location you are looking at.
 
6:12 PM
Nice racist cover up
 
Globally? I think so?
I think the majority of the population is Southeast Asian right now.
 
Well yeah they breed like rabbits
 
user image
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lol
 
what the fuck
 
@AlexM. that got dark really quickly
 
Ell
6:17 PM
Integration is haaaaaard
 
I need to make food
so much :effort:
 
@Ell Weird name for a penis!
 
> Undoubtedly it will be built using MSI's choice military-class components.
IRTA
> Undoubtedly it will be made from the shittiest, cheapest plastic only MSI is able to force chinese children to manufacture
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, bizarre
 
voting to undelete
 
lol this guy has only negative scores
no wait one of his questions is at 0
quality contributions
I like that his website is a domain that doesn't exist as well
 
what was the answer
I cannot seeee
:(
was it even an attempt?
 
Greetings sub-humans. As promised, I am here for official business, Uncon 3.1 is coming up (6 moths away, but planning helps)
 
@AlexM. get 10k then you'll know
 
6:26 PM
@thecoshman Lets plan it when @AngryLettuce is in Europe again
 
@AlexM. nah
 
unless he doesn't want to attend
 
I just got a Samsung 950 512GB PCI SSD. Possibly the fastest device on the consumer market. Visual Studio still takes >1 hour to install.
 
Come one, come all! Time to start the annual shouting match. Where oh where shall we host Uncon 3.1? Date is set, following the same logic as before, for June 11th. But where!? Place your nominations here. 'We' have loosely agree on Poland btw. Voting will be held once we feel enough people have had chance to nominate, probable once this the pin expires.
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@TonyTheLion Of course I'd like to, but I can't see that far away into the future so plan as you may :p
 
6:30 PM
Tony, can you do the needful
 
@AngryLettuce awww
 
// so it looks like professional grade software
Thread.Sleep(3600);
 
Any way, I think I'll slink back into the shadows now. Remember people, IRC is the hip place to be!
 
@thecoshman but there's literally no one talking there
 
It is still perplexes me why Microsoft software takes so long to install. Is it doing more than just copying files? It is not bound by neither CPU/Disk/Network.
 
6:32 PM
Oh, if you want to see current nominations, feel free to take a look (saves re-nomination the same place see)
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@thecoshman I can be fucking wherever if you fix my CI issue
 
Is there another computer limitation that I am not aware about?
 
@TonyTheLion I was AFK for the last free weeks.
 
@thecoshman me too, for most of it
 
@Nican scan hdd and network activity while the install is going
see where most of the time goes
 
6:34 PM
@TonyTheLion so IRC witches!
 
look for times where there is not hdd activity, if there's no hdd and no internet then it probably does something else
that being said in some cases for me VS triggers one of those "processing updates" message at restart
so it def does something other than copying files
 
@Nican The NSA did a poor job of capacity planning, and their servers are overloaded.
 
user406009
Was there ever any actual evidence that MS is leaking tons of data to the NSA in windows 10?
 
@Lalaland Yes, but they the Men In Black neuralized everybody who noticed.
 
this isn't even remotely funny
 
6:40 PM
is it about atheist witchers?
 
good evening :-)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Nosz kurwa
 
user406009
@JerryCoffin So, it's still a bunch of tinfoil hats.
 
So much for separation of church and state
 
@набиячлэвэлиь they discuss very important matters there
> Konkurs na pracę monograficzną "Media o Kościele - niezależność dziennikarska czy zaplanowany atak":
> Ideologia gender - zagrożenie dla cywilizacji.
 
6:42 PM
@Lalaland Honestly, I don't know of any such evidence (but I rarely pay much attention either).
 
@AlexM. it's a govt thing "to stop atheisation of Poland" or w/e
essentially idiots
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh FFS
 
user406009
@BartekBanachewicz What are they going to do? Ban/censor the internet?
 
arent there more important things to deal with atm
 
except paid by me to literally sit fucking there and not even do nothing, worse, do one of the most idiotic thing I could possibly imagine
 
6:43 PM
ban everything
 
@Lalaland No
They can't do that
 
they can't do shit
 
user406009
This really reminds me of this study.
 
but the very fact of its existence is insulting
 
accidentally opened a tab of stacoverflow in my browser . damn
 
6:45 PM
PLONKKKKK
ok my plonk jokes are getting old
 
Your old jokes are getting plonked.
 
your old plonks are getting joked
 
@BartekBanachewicz I like how the anti-child abuse bill got voted against/whatever by some party for something along the lines of "Niszczenie tradycji kulturowej Polski"
 
tacoverflow
 
Today I made marzipan-filled dates.
 
6:46 PM
@набиячлэвэлиь gotta defend the tradition of burning jews amirite
 
@набиячлэвэлиь nietzsche translating the polish culture
 
@Morwenn Is that some weird hookup fetish
oh you mean date the fruit
yeah typical christmas dish :3 so delicious
 
I wouldn't date a fruit
fruits cannot reciprocate sentiments
 
@AngryLettuce Yeah totally. I had some left so I thought it would be a good idea :D
 
I dated a banana once
 
6:48 PM
:*
can someone make my ci build btw
no pressure
just you know
 
@BartekBanachewicz Link
 
5
Q: Build fails because of "multiple definition" linker errors in native dependencies

Bartek BanachewiczI maintain an open-source framework that uses CircleCI for continuous integration. I've recently hit a wall where the project suddenly refused to build in rather strange circumstances. Build 27 was the last one that succeeded. After that, I made some minor changes to dependencies and noticed tha...

 
I like how Bartek Bananachewicz does the kissing smiley right after "I dated a banana once" ;)
 
@набиячлэвэлиь ahahah ha ha ha
 
6:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Oh god no, linker errors (especially headless) are a nightmare
 
The Tale of The Headless Linker
 
> ds. efektywnej regulacji gry w pokera
Oh ffs
Are they all on shrooms?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь still more useful
 
Or did the propaganda get to them, but not to us
 
@AngryLettuce the one you just had shortened?
 
6:52 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Fuck's a "Godka"?
 
@набиячлэвэлиь gadka
you're not a true silesian
 
@BartekBanachewicz ah
 
@набиячлэвэлиь this is even worse than a typical one
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd get it if it were said, not spelled out
 
for all i know might be a cabal bug
 
6:53 PM
c-lesian
 
@AngryLettuce c-lesbian
 
pls no gay bashing
 
Who would like to promote badminton?
Are there competitive games/championships of that shit?
 
Yeah in Indonesia
China also I believe
 
We're talking Poland
 
6:54 PM
Nobody gives a flying fuck about Polen
 
@AngryLettuce Good point--anybody using bash should be morose or glum, not gay.
 
I enjoyed playing badminton ages ago
 
Badminton is among the few sports I actually enjoy.
 
@AngryLettuce Bees care about pollen and mate while flying.
I enjoyed inventing badminton.
 

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