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10:01 AM
Shit, I managed to miss Robot, Griwes... I give up, I love you all.
I like how the Surface Pro gets worked up temperature wise when it downloads a fucking file. Like a fat dude climbing up a flight of stairs.
 
Ell
He popped in a while ago
What about @bartek
 
Bartek left? And by the impression you guys gave me, it wasn't on pretty terms.
 
Ell
I think he's on a break.
 
Essentially
 
Ell
Well kinda
 
10:07 AM
Seriously whoever marked this as a trail should be locked in the same place with caged chickens ...
 
When someone disappears, you can expect that person back. But ragequits are a bit different. For example, I don't think LRiO is going to be back. To create your own chat room called Bar<C++> where you basically talk to yourself requires a high level of pissed off.
 
Ell
@elim Idk, I think the opposite
When someone ragequits they usually realise they want to be here after all, once they've cooled down
 
A proper bush trail should not require the walkers to jump off mini cliffs like this (taken today):
 
Maybe, I would like Bartek back.
 
10:08 AM
 
Ell
If someone leaves normally, they seem t disappear silentlly and never return
 
Or walking over slippery green boulders like this (also taken today)
 
Ell
but yeah if SO shuts down, I wonder what will happen to the lounge
 
SO will live on, but I am wondering how far they intend to keep the chat functionality up. If they get a brain fart or something. It would shatter the regulars, but I guess we'd regroup somehow.
 
@ElimGarak did he do it? ._.
 
10:12 AM
Mumbel is a kind of a good alternative
 
@nabijaczleweli Cat doesn't like to talk. Unless he's drunk.
 
But nothing is persistent there, so transcript would be ded
 
Ell
I'm sure we would chaotically organize
 
@ElimGarak we use it as a text chat anyway
 
Ell
I have some skypes and they have emails and there's always keybase which I think most people are o
 
10:13 AM
@Marco are you going to the next ++it meetup?
 
@AndyProwl unfortunately not, I'll be in Switzerland by that time :(
 
Skyep is nice but only for 2-human communication, it's kinda fucky for groups
 
@MarcoA. ah, shite
 
Ell
I think I'd rather only regulars be able to view the transcript
 
The transcript & Google indexing our love of cocks are the two single most disturbing things regarding this chat room. Otherwise, it's fine.
 
10:17 AM
If I run an application I built from terminal, it works fine. If I run it from QtCreator I get a missing symbol error... because I think its linking to the wrong library. So annoying
shared libraries in general are always such a pain the ass
nothing ever just works
 
I'm okay with Gugel indexing your cock-love
@Prismatic Windooze or Linux-like?
 
linux
 
Shared libs are kinda ugh there
 
When QtCreator runs the application it prioritizes a library in usr/lib
but it works fine from CL... I dont get it. Both have the same LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Maybe I'll try recompiling the library with rpath
 
If it's not for me and my existence, people would start to think this is some kind of gay chat
 
Ell
10:34 AM
@prismatic does qt LD_PRELOAD anything?
 
Oh kitty. Stop talking about your cocks and their existence
 
@Ell not as far as I can tell
 
@AndyProwl yeah, I can't really avoid this travel
it's been scheduled for months
 
Ell
What does ldd show?
 
@MarcoA. is it for the whole month or something? The date has not been picked yet
 
10:38 AM
half a week
wasn't it around 18th of October?
 
@Ell ldd on what? my application?
 
@MarcoA. there are three candidate dates and people have to vote
AFAIK it hasn't been decided yet
 
@sehe I don't have any roosters any more
only two lovely hens
 
calling ldd on the application through terminal will show the correct paths since my environment variables are set up correctly through the bash profile
 
also bought another case of wine
 
Ell
10:44 AM
Are there launch parameters or anything in qt reatoe?
What is ++it conference?
 
@Ell yes, there's a command line parameters dialog somewhere
@Ell ++It is the Italian C++ group. They periodically schedule conferences or join meetings/provide talks
it was founded only few months ago and I joined ASAP because nobody cares about C++ in Italy
most of my university professors repeatedly taught us that C++ is dead, obsolete, inheritance is dangerous and hurts performances, C++ is messed up and it's a failed attempt at emulating C and making it easier to use.. etc..
 
Ell
I wonder what groups there are in England. I should Join or sthng
Oh cool
 
Don't bother telling me why what I wrote is wrong. I already agree with you.
 
@MarcoA. so they taught it to you but said its bad at the same time?
 
@MarcoA. "inheritance is dangerous" ahahah
 
10:49 AM
@Prismatic yes
 
Ell
How could they even think inheritance is dangerous :L
So stupid
 
In case of Paris Hilton, it is.
 
Ell
That reminds me, is there a way of forcing a call to be non virtual besides using a value?
Ie if I have child& and I want static dispatch on a virtual.function
 
Ell
Actually that sounds dodgy
 
10:51 AM
What do you mean 'using a value'?
static polymorphism is a thing
 
@Prismatic consolas/hack
I still prefer Consolas, 0s are more readable
and also i's
 
Ell
@prismatic I mean I can do that if I have Child, ie a value not a reference
 
@MarcoA. "oblique" should be "italic" :)
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yeah
 
Ell
If I have Child&, ie a reference to A child, how do I call a virtual function statically? But I suspect it is not possible
And after thought it shoulsnt be posisble
So ignore me :)
 
10:54 AM
You can do static polymorphism with CRTP
Actually I think you mean you want to call a function that would be marked 'static virtual' or something right?
i dont think the latter is possible
 
Be right back, switching to El Capitan. Whoo.
 
El Suckitan is out?
With 120% more transparency?
 
(Beta 7, Hackintosh, we talked about it already, I think)
 
Ell
@prismatic I just meant calling a virtual member function without using the vtable on a child&
wait it woildnt be dangerous o.O
it woildnt be virtual either
ignore me
 
@Ell Yes. With explicit qualification. e.g. foo.bar::qux().
 
11:01 AM
Does anyone know what do I have to change in my build.gradle when I move my project from eclipse on windows to android studio on mac?
 
user1804599
I can't choose.
 
user1804599
What to write the server in.
 
There we go!
 
user1804599
PHP maybe.
 
@elyse No.
 
user1804599
11:12 AM
Why not?
 
Well, beside it being PHP? Have you considered the alternatives?
 
I picked a wrong spot to build a house
 
that’s a biggun'
 
@CatPlusPlus Yup, you're done.
 
11:14 AM
It actually doesn't do damage if it's not aggressive
But it makes the screen shake like fuck
 
Also, why does every game on Steam look like a HD-ish Minecraft clone?
 
Also pooped on my roof
 
@Ell static_cast and fully qualify what you intend to call
 
@CatPlusPlus What's up with the shed and the high tech thingie in the background?
 
Shed is mine, obelisk comes with the map
 
11:16 AM
derived obj;
static_cast<base&>(obj).base::fn(); // No virtual dispatch
programming like this should make you feel bad
 
Can you build Obelisk-like stuff?
 
They're used to copy characters between official servers and summoning bosses or something
 
Ah...
 
There is metal tier of buildings dunno how they look
 
Last game I played was that Unity thing, uhm... The one with blocks and space?
You can build ships and stuff.
 
11:18 AM
Space Engineers?
 
Yes, and then collide them. Remotely. While being on the bridge of either one.
That was so good.
 
I don't think it's Unity tho
 
@MarcoA. neat
why did we abolish death penalty again
 
They have their own thing
VRage or whatever
 
user1804599
@ElimGarak Haskell, but CBA to install it and Cabal and all that crap.
 
11:20 AM
Yeah, probably for the voxel engine. Would be a hassle to add that to Unity.
 
@MaiLongdong the same reason why some people go vegan
 
ARK is okay
I think I'll buy it
 
@MarcoA. Why do you need the static_cast? Wouldn't obj.base::fn() suffice?
 
And a new GPU to run it because gods I get 20FPS on average
 
xd Ran a UE4 game on OS X with the GTX980 and newest Nvidia drivers (few days old), it's atrocious.
 
11:21 AM
@chmod711telkitty How are vegans related to voxels besides the v
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yes, I wanted to make it clear since he asked for a reference
plus without the reference type no dynamic dispatch would happen either..
 
You can tame dinosaurs and fling shit at people GOTY
 
@MaiLongdong what about the 's'?
 
@MarcoA. True
 
Flinging shit alone would be GOTY material.
Is there a game about flinging shit? And why not?
 
11:23 AM
Also I hear you can kill people by force-feeding them shit
 
@CatPlusPlus that's what McDonalds heard too
 
Goddamn Brontosaur finally walked away
 
I tried playing that Hatred game, man, that thing was atrocious.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ echo "12+30" ?
 
11:24 AM
Oh, it's leftover from something else.
 
ah
 
@ElimGarak Gimmick games tend to be
 
ITT Jefffrey using coliru as a calculator for kindergarten level mathematics
6
Let's try 8+11
Wow 19
Unbelievable
 
@MaiLongdong ahahahah
 
But is it always 19 though?
 
11:26 AM
Also
 
Ask someone at Caltech.
 
So, basically, WoW troll with a species-generic mount. :P
 
@elyse How exactly does the CanSetType magic work?
 
There are T-Rexes and a saddle for them too
 
11:27 AM
makes sense
 
I'd like to have that big one that shat on your house as a mount.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow You're only allowed to set the type if an implicit of type CanSetType.type is in scope, and it's only in scope in the type checker.
 
T-Regices
 
@MaiLongdong Sums with even numbers always scared me. :c
 
lal
 
11:27 AM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ That's odd
badum tssh
 
@ElimGarak Also possible
> Multiple people can ride on the Bronto, but only one person can drive the dinosaur
 
roflkopter, it's an ARK bus.
 
Vroom vroom poop
 
Get on the floor
Everyone drive the dinosaur
 
Any flying creatures to mount?
 
11:28 AM
Yes
 
@elyse I see. Nice. Does the name of the user who asked this question remind you of anyone? :)
 
And it can pick people up
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow lolnice
 
You can swoop in, catch someone and then drop them
 
Basically, the Cargobob of GTA V Online. Just without people cursing at you.
 
11:30 AM
Also there are monkeys and guess what they use as ammo
 
Shiet.
 
bananas
no that would be africans!
or coconuts
 
Hello, my name is Martian Odyssey. I did not invent Scala but discovered it on Earth.
 
"Feces" seems so polite. Hurls shit at you is far better.
 
11:32 AM
@chmod711telkitty lol
 
Hey guys, Quick question:
If I have a function like glm::decompose: http://glm.g-truc.net/0.9.7/api/a00208.html
What if I only need the scale component.
Is there a way I can do something similar to :
"glm::vec3 scale; glm::decompose(matrix, scale, _, _, _, _);"
?
 
No trivial way
 
You need multiple verbibols
 
@Berry If only there was a site where you could ask such programming-related questions :(
 
11:34 AM
Quora.com
 
Yahoo! answers
 
thought the chat would be quick and easy :P thanks anyway
 
I always get Hungry when people do that!
 
11:36 AM
Asking questions in chat can only result in people throwing feces at you.
 
As I am experiencing now :P but I got my answer
 
> C++ inherited arrays from C where they are used virtually everywhere. C++ provides abstractions that are easier to use and less error-prone (std::vector<T> since C++98
You should use the STL Vector because it provides you greater flexibility. — Moiz Sajid 1 min ago
lol
 
@Berry try SO website and don't just tag it C++ but something more specific if possible
 
Don't really know the name for it... wildcard or whatever? omitting return variables?
 
knowing C++ doesn't mean you know what's written or how to use any C++ library. Knowing English doesn't mean you're able to comprehend an English-written psychology text (or any other book)
 
11:38 AM
I know English, how come I'm not the next Shakespeare?
 
I actually AM the next Shakespeare!
 
I should hope so, because you sure as hell are not the next John Carmack.
 
@fredoverflow you still don't know how is pointar formed
 
Are those some more of them "feces" you were talking about?
 
Nah, you need to anger Cat Plus Plus for the feces. Think of us as merely piss sprinklers.
 
11:41 AM
alright. Came her hoping for helpfulness sprinklers but alas
 
kbye
 
bai
Why do people only come here to take advantage of our kind, helping hearts? And then leave forever? Is it because Jeffrey uses Coliru as a calculator? :(
 
give gp plz or i repot
 
Jefffrey can you try 7+3 for me just quickly pls
I tried doing it by hand but failed
 
11:44 AM
I got to 9 and lost count.
 
Yep I got CARRIED away ahahaha gedit
 
ahahahah
 
hahahahahaha
this kills the chatroom
 
Cat is probably too busy with mesopithecuses flinging shit at him.
 
Mesopithecii
Mesopitheca
 
11:47 AM
@MarcoA. What? You form pointer by applying & operator.
 
I actually looked for the plural form. Can't find it. Took the safest route.
Result: "primates". Thank you, Internet. Very useful
 
user1804599
wtf
 
user1804599
I have 16GB RAM and a library fails to compile because the compiler ran out of memory.
 
@fredoverflow fred is really not that simple, take a look at the important issues here: stackoverflow.com/questions/31618222/…
 
Because the process is 32 bit?
 
user1804599
11:49 AM
hmm, maybe
 
a linked issue still being discussed by the committee is how is babby formed how girl get pragnent
 
Babushka.
 
ld options are dumb and confusing
 
lol, it isn't even large address aware. Who the hell is still in 32-bit land and doesn't deserve to die in a fire?
 
11:51 AM
@ElimGarak Fukitol
 
@ElimGarak everything that has to support ARM compatibility across a wide range needs it
it's a huge slowdown for some projects
 
user1804599
I just used the DMD installer.
 
user1804599
I guess.
 
"Rejected software" indeed
 
user1804599
11:56 AM
ugh now I have to compile dmd myself probably
 
I need to call my ISP's customer support and vent a little.
 
yay it worked by manually specifying rpath. Good stuff qmake
 
Did anybody here enjoy Dragon Age Inquisition?
 
@ElimGarak never played it :'(
no time / no pc
 
I tried, didn't like it. Too many fetch quests and the game totally doesn't respect your time.
 
@Griwes wow
 
> 2> Building Custom Rule E:/GitHub/openexr/OpenEXR/IlmImf/CMakeLists.txt
2> CMake does not need to re-run because E:\GitHub\openexr\OpenEXR\IlmImf\CMakeFiles\generate.stamp is up-to-date.
2> Generating b44ExpLogTable.h
2>C:\Program Files (x86)\MSBuild\Microsoft.Cpp\v4.0\V120\Microsoft.CppCommon.targets(170,5): error MSB6006: "cmd.exe" exited with code -1073741515.
========== Build: 1 succeeded, 1 failed, 2 up-to-date, 0 skipped ==========
thx because thats such useful information
ffs
 
but error codes are easier to google!
 
12:16 PM
-1073741515 == 0xC0000135 == STATUS_DLL_NOT_FOUND
 
Which one of the bazillion dlls on my system is it looking for :(
and where is it looking for it
 
it's in WinNT.h
no idea lol
uhm that is openEXR
it might require the dlls to be available in the /lib directory
or that dir to be visible at compilation time (PATH)
this stuff is nasty to compile on Windows
I probably did it to have Cycle up'n'running
 
IlmBase compiled without a hitch
Well I found this
but he sadly doesnt mention where he copied the dll
at least i know which one it probably is now
 
@Borgleader lib folder? Give it a try and add it to PATH variable
 
E:\GitHub\openexr\IlmBase-build\lib thats where it is right now
 
12:23 PM
@Borgleader is it visible?
 
and i set DILMBASE_PACKAGE_PREFIX to that directory
 
Apparently, Guild Wars 2 is free to play now.
s/free to play/shit
 
Ugh....
its free to play because theyre releasing an expansion
so the original game is free (and there was already no monthly fee)
jeezus
 
12:34 PM
Also, they promise they won't introduce "too aggressive microtransactions".
 
isnt it windows.h
 
user1804599
Bleh, PHP sucks. D sucks. Node.js sucks. Everything else also sucks.
 
The game has been out for like 2 years and all the payed for things are cosmetic
 
What happened?
 
or yknow like bank slots
 
user1804599
12:37 PM
I want to write a program.
 
nothing that would make you better than other players
their model is pretty god imo
Cat++ plays (or used to anyway)
 
@ElimGarak And they didn't
 
I kind of expect it to decline in quality now, but I will give it a shot.
You two still playing?
 
12:52 PM
Though lol raids
I kinda got bored
 
Not regularly, I dont have that much time these days.
 
It's still an MMO
 
I waste too much of it building libraries
:P
@MarcoA. I think I found the answer
oh hohohohohoho the build is taking longer :D :D :D
 
@Borgleader fyi just stopped streaming :) I run on a most random schedule, admittedly livecoding.tv/video/visiting-some-new-so-questionscomments
 
Wellp, just upgraded to 50 mbit. Life's shit, but acceptable.
 
1:05 PM
@chmod711telkitty you noo,ooo,ooo,ticed?
 
@sehe i didnt even know you were streaming today :(
 
I realized that. So that's why I mention it. I think you can get notified by livecoding (if you have a profile)
Saves me the trouble to keep a list of people that might want to know
> The forum software is undergoing an upgrade. Back shortly!

Phoronix Media
kk
 
@Borgleader I recalled a lib-similar passage :D
glad to hear that
now you can enjoy the complimentary and complete ICE experience MSVC has to offer you
 
> ========== Build: 17 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 up-to-date, 3 skipped ==========
I looked at their cmake-fixes branch, and I think they fixed it in there but not the same way I did. Would have been nice if theyd put it in master branch though =/
 
They misspelled "ICEs" as "succeeded". Curious
 
user1804599
1:17 PM
PS C:\Users\elyse\timedo> mkdir --help


    Directory: C:\Users\elyse\timedo


Mode                LastWriteTime     Length Name
----                -------------     ------ ----
d----         8/30/2015   3:16 PM            --help
 
user1804599
good game windows
 
is there a keyboard shortcut that will kill a running process in the terminal
sometimes ctrl+c works
but not always
 
user1804599
And mkdir /help creates a directory name C:\help
 
When it doesn't work I have to suspend the process and kill -9 it
 
user406009
@Prismatic Control z will pause it.
 
1:26 PM
Yeah, thats what I mean. Ctrl-Z to pause (suspend) and then kill it by finding the pid and sending kill -9
but I dont want to do all that. It would be nice if there was a keyboard shortcut that would just send SIGKILL
 
@sehe For twitch I have a chrome plugin that tells me if any of the streamers i follow are streaming. I would need something like that for livecoding :)
 
user406009
I would argue that an application which doesn't respond correctly to SIGINT (contrl-C) is broken and should be fixed.
 
I am trying to fix it, lol
 
user406009
Dealing with signals is a pain.
 
user406009
There is so little you can do in a signal handler.
 
user406009
1:39 PM
I actually prefer making a "signal handling thread".
 
user406009
Thread-safety is much easier than signal-safety.
 
I'm going to hell:
0
A: Clear static variables in another library C++

PotatoswatterIn POSIX, the first string in the argv parameter to main is a path representing the UNIX executable that was invoked. You can replace the current process with a new executable by calling execvp (or something similar). It follows that you can reset the state of global variables by calling execvp....

 
materialize thoughts would be possible given the right future technology - a mind reader & a advanced 3D printer
 
@Potatoswatter I stopped reading halfway in, I felt dirty.
 
user406009
@Potatoswatter That's actually a somewhat decent approach. If I was you, I would mention dlopen in your answer as well.
 
1:42 PM
@Borgleader Did you feel the urge to… start afresh?
 
user406009
Since it seems his troublesome application is a specific library, he can dlopen and dlclose it repeatadly.
 
user406009
Easier to deal with than restarting from main.
 
I think his problem lies between his keyboard and his seat-back.
 
good day guys. do anyone of you knows how to recover files from guest account on windows 8 which is upgraded to windows 10?
 
@user3783598 You need to downgrade back to 8. :(
 
1:47 PM
really?
Does windows 10 have no backup files for the files stored in guest account on 8?
 

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