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9:04 AM
iPhoney, iBad
great names for devices that spy on you
 
Wasn't ME after XP?
 
user1804599
No.
 
oh
My first Windows was 3.11 iirc.
 
@fredoverflow I wonder what Windows 2 looked like.
 
user1804599
9:13 AM
@fredoverflow He's better at counting to $79.3 billion.
 
user1804599
> William Henry "Bill" Gates III
 
user1804599
what
 
user1804599
Bill is like neither William nor Henry.
 
Sure it is. Never heard of the 10 dollar William?
 
9:13 AM
cool
 
reversi
 
hmm
 
> No wonder Windows 8 sucked. No Reversi!!!
 
user1804599
>>> reversi("olleh")
"hello"
 
9:15 AM
it's all too clear that I did not know C# when writing this code.
 
user1804599
> Each node has a unique name in the form of an identifier composed partly of the hostname on which the node is running, e.g "gurka@sallad.com".
 
user1804599
Now I want gherkins.
 
@rightfold what's this witchcraft?!
 
user1804599
Game development in Python.
 
@rightfold Game development in Python: 80% faffing about with string reverse operations in the command line, 20% researching game ideas one could steal
 
9:33 AM
So how's windows 10 for those of you who tried it
 
Will Windows 11 be advertised by Spinal Tap?
 
user1804599
Windows 10 isn't Gentoo so it's shit.
 
@MaiLongdong Windows 10 is bugged as fuck. At least for me.
@rightfold Gentoo is Gentoo so it's shit.
 
@Columbo like how
 
hmm
just realized that I don't even have this enumeration anymore.
 
9:40 AM
Oh look another bios update for my PC. And like the previous 4 updates, it says "fix keyboard behavior". #lel
 
@MaiLongdong Started an LoL game yesterday, the screen just went black and though I could get into an intermediate menu with Ctrl+Alt+Del, it didn't help much. I then went on to reboot into Win7
We lost because of that >:-(
 
Windows preventing you from playing shitty casual games is not a bug, it's a feature.
:dota2supremacist:
 
@MaiLongdong Well, Arma III had problems as well IIRC
And that's proper fucking shit
 
starcraft 2 keeps crashing the nvidia driver under win10
 
Who cares about all these shitty games, the only thing that matters is agar.io
 
9:42 AM
now now
 
Alcohol sucks
 
10:04 AM
@CatPlusPlus Tell that to the sexy bottle of champagne I had the pleasure to drink yesterday
 
@CatPlusPlus you wrote it reversed
I suck alcohol
 
INTEL WEBSITE WHY ARE YOU SO SLOW
 
because you didn't pay for higher speed internet? :p
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
10:14 AM
finally purple stuff
 
user1804599
And apparently very easy to get as its ingredients grow on trees.
 
@fredoverflow Holy shit
 
11:09 AM
sop m8s
 
11:37 AM
Are there no better candidates for USA president in the Democratic party than H. Clinton?
@chmod711telkitty The first two seem too watery. The 3rd looks weird, too pink. Only the last one seems reasonable.
 
@wilx You ask that like the population of the room at this time is not almost exclusively European.
 
@Puppy Is it not like morning on the east cost right now?
Also, @Puppy, you are allowed to have an opinion on that as well, even though you are British.
 
don't really follow US politics
except that it seems that the vast majority of Republican politicians are utter morons
4
 
@Puppy I agree with that.
 
so frankly
I would say vote for basically whoever wins the Democrat nomination.
 
11:49 AM
@Puppy Well, I fear it will be Clinton.
 
what's the problem with that?
 
Morning titties
 
Ell
Top o the mornin
 
it's 12:52 ;p
 
@fredoverflow ME is before XP I think
Windows Millennium Edition, or Windows ME (marketed with the pronunciation of the pronoun "me", but commonly pronounced as an initialism, "M-E"), is a graphical operating system from Microsoft released to manufacturing in June 2000, and launched in September 2000. It was the last operating system released in the Windows 9x series. Windows ME was the successor to Windows 98 SE and was targeted specifically at home PC users. It included Internet Explorer 5.5, Windows Media Player 7, and the new Windows Movie Maker software, which provided basic video editing and was designed to be easy to use for...
 
12:08 PM
You are all so slow in the summer.
3 messages in 16 minutes
 
well whaddya know
turns out that empty string literals crash the Wide compiler.
somebody, who was totally not me, fired an assertion in a case where it did not actually apply.
 
You are working on Wide again? I thought you abandoned it
 
nope
 
"nope" as in "I'm not working on Wide" or as in "I haven't abandoned it yet"?
 
I have not abandoned it
as is demonstrated by the fact that I am currently working on it
 
12:12 PM
You haven't demonstrated it really. You just demonstrated you have found a bug. Which could happen without you working on it.
 
what?
 
Nevermind, it glitched out for a second
*static_cast<T*>(static_cast<void*>(&storage))
Hmm
 
I don't believe that I am the original author of that optional
I think it's robot
a long time ago
 
12:18 PM
Why not just static_cast<T*>?
Also explicit operator bool() const { return present; }... explicit? What's the point?
static_cast<bool>(obj) sounds more terrible than obj.present().
 
you mean, apart from the fact that operator bool is literally the defining example and primary motivation for why explicit operators were added to the language?
explicit operator bool still permits if (obj), for example.
 
I see
I thought that was considered implicit.
 
nope.
may have been in C++03 but it didn't matter because you couldn't have explicit conversion operators.
that's why there was all that safe-bool idiom crap about how to convert to a bool without allowing really stupid shit.
 
user1804599
It's awful.
 
hmm
 
12:22 PM
Makes sense
 
why the fuck did I choose such a terrible brace match highlight?
maybe it looks slightly less awful for Dark theme
ah it does look much less awful
 
My bricked box core temp is down to 68C this morning:) Who needs mobo fasteners/clamps?
 
you do
 
12:38 PM
hey guys
so how on earth do i set up st2 for c++ development?
compiling is no problem, since i usually compile via console
 
1. Open C++ file
 
@CatPlusPlus I mean full syntax highlighting and that sort of shit. Link would be appreciated
 
See 1
 
@CatPlusPlus How helpful. Thanks
 
also Putin on a Ritz
 
12:44 PM
@ChemiCalChems I don't recall ever having to do anything to get C++ syntax highlighting in ST
 
@Borgleader Ok. Thanks
 
Jun 19 at 1:46, by Borgleader
@Nooble Use Sublime Text with SETI theme.
(theres a screenshot of it under that message)
 
@Borgleader Does ST give you class support out of the box? Cause I don't think so.
 
wtf is class support
 
it's support for insulting all the nearby peasants
if somebody who has to actually work for money comes nearby it immediately says "Filthy peon!"
 
12:49 PM
@Borgleader Autocompleteting with user defined class members.
 
only works in England though
you have to pay for support for Indian caste systems
 
That's it, 3, 2, 1, …………
And parallel_studio_xe_2015_update3.tgz is downloaded
 
@ChemiCalChems no clue
 
@Borgleader Ok.
I think I'm gonna stick to Code::Blocks. It sucks, but is far easier than going onto setting up anything else.
 
Visual Studio master race
 
12:53 PM
^
inb4 haters
 
VS is shit but it's a bit less shit than the competition (somehow, VS is pretty fuckin' shit)
 
I use VS w/ Resharper++
 
did not have a good experience with Resharper++ but it was still in beta
 
@Puppy VA pissed me off when I got a license from them, so I'm giving R++ a chance
 
Resharper C++ is really nice
 
12:58 PM
alright this is fuckin' stupid.
why am I calculating outlining in the parser instead of just inspecting the resulting AST?
 
> # intel-ipp: Editing variables
# intel-ipp: Remove documentation
# intel-ipp: Move package
==> Tidying install...
-> Purging unwanted files...
-> Compressing man and info pages...
-> Stripping unneeded symbols from binaries and libraries...
==> Creating package "intel-ipp"...
-> Generating .PKGINFO file...
-> Adding install file...
-> Generating .MTREE file...
-> Compressing package...
@ChemiCalChems Good choice. I use C::B since ages and it worked great until recently.
But that's somewhat of an individual issue.
 
@Columbo I just use it as a text editor, so it works alright. Nice syntax highlighting, nice user interface.
The only problem is whenever I create a new header file, I have to open and close the file so that C::B can parse it and have all the class support I expect. It's quite simple to do, but gets on my nerves.
 
@ChemiCalChems Hmm. Why don't you just add it to the project and select "Reparse"?
 
@Columbo Cause I don't want to make a project since that would give me unwanted files and stuff. It's a long story.
 
not sure how you expect C::B to work without a project telling it what to do.
 
1:06 PM
^
 
@Puppy It works alright. I just use it as a text editor
 
@ChemiCalChems …use Vim
 
definitely so much worse than Visual Studio
 
lol Code::Blocks
But there's one thing I can say though, it's not as terrible as it was in 10.10
 
@Puppy Visual Studio is great. That's completely relativised by the horrific compiler it provides
 
1:14 PM
eh
I don't usually find it a problem
it's probably more of an issue if you're writing a bunch of template wankery
 
@Puppy Not if you write C with classes, no
 
there's a midground between template wankery and C with Classes where it's mostly fine.
 
@Puppy Well, it's not that bad, clearly. But I would definitely prefer Clang, which - at least to some extent - seems to be supported by VS
 
so would I but that extent is not enough.
 
@Puppy …and that's because if it was, a lot of miserable VC++ devs would suddenly lose their job
 
1:16 PM
as soon as Clang finishes support for MSVC ABI, I can add support to Wide and then bootstrap Wide.
then I can be responsible for all the compiler bugs I run into ;p
 
@Puppy What is Wide
 
a language
 
What problem does it solve
 
1:19 PM
@Columbo How do you not know this by now =/
 
@Borgleader I knew what Wide was long ago, I just tried to comfort puppy by acting interested
 
I don't require comfort from anyone else on this matter
 
!!hi
 
I hate how bloated most IDEs are.
 
~bloat~
 
1:28 PM
So I try to avoid them whenever I can.
 
hmm
 
~~bloat~~
 
~~~bloat~~~
 
it's really difficult to design APIs
 
eh
 
1:29 PM
sometimes
 
Kinda
 
Ell
~~~~~~bloat~~~~~~
 
You can stop now
 
also you got the number wrong
 
alright what's up with bloat
 
1:29 PM
Generally anyone using that word is not worth listening to
It's about as meaningful as "manager"
 
I can't hear you because I'm on top of bloat with my four-core machine with 8 GB of RAM
 
~~~~tĩldẽs~~~~
 
Ell
I'm bloating you with bloat
 
@unordered_meow lol only 8GB?
 
Also it's based on a dumb assumption that less features automatically makes things better and vice versa
 
1:31 PM
that's not "I can't hear you" territory.
I have 32GB and even that is possibly not "I can't hear you" territory depending on what application exactly is being talked about
 
I could use 32
 
Yeah, I know. But I really, really wanted to say this.
 
Ell
I have 8GB also
 
hmm
still got 11GB free.
bastards
 
1:32 PM
I wonder what's the fatality rate of mountain goats
 
@CatPlusPlus IDEs are great when you actually need the features they provide.
 
Shocking
 
"A car is great when i need to get from point A to point B"
ya dont say
 
Yeah so are legs
 
Cars are so bloated
 
1:35 PM
@Ell Me too, though I'd appreciate an upgrade to 12. Otherwise lookup tables for certain stuff are too small :/
 
Ell
boat is "things I don't want"
 
I don't like boats either
 
I thought it was "bloat"
 
verbibloat
 
pain black screen on new rig
no beep, nothing
fan spins
 
Broken mobo
 
Ell
man I had 2 secs to edit
 
☑ rekt ☐ not rekt
 
> No license files found in /home/arcoth/PACKAGES/intel-parallel-studio-xe/src/...
But it's there!
 
phew, it took me a bit to come up with this but I think I got it right
 
1:40 PM
Half of all PKGBUILD authors are retarded
 
IDEs attempt to provide features for all cases and this means that many features are not needed in average. Thus there is an unneeded overhead for doing specific tasks. I consider this "bloated".
 
What overhead
 
Ell
like having to move your mouse over things you don't use
idk
 
inb4 vs takes long to startup
 
1:44 PM
It's rude to laugh at people
 
well I think in the case of VS, it just takes forever to complete trivial operations, let alone non-trivial ones
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ party pooper =/
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus why lol?
 
@Puppy Eh, that's not really affected by specialised tools existing
 
1:47 PM
probably not
but then again, VS doesn't exactly isolate them properly
 
@Ell Using mouse and also accepting default layouts as something set in stone
 
Ell
sometimes you can't customize the layout enough
 
That's again a different kind of problem than 'omg bloat'
 
@Ell I thought it was a joke.
 
Ironically it's because of lack of a feature
 
Ell
1:49 PM
@CatPlusPlus I would categorise it as bloat
interface bloat
 
Interface manager bloat
 
Ell
user interface is a real thing
they can be badly designed
 
You don't say
 
Ell
they can be bloated
ie full of things that aren't useful and you can't alter
 
We got it the first time around. Don’t bloat with explanations.
 
1:51 PM
lol
 
And here's that word again redefined to mean whatever you want it to mean at the moment
 
Ell
I think it means the same thing any time you use it
 
Yes, nothing
 
It is bloated in meanings.
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus to you I guess vOv
 
1:53 PM
to me it pretty much has one use: contains too much, with implied negative consequences.
 
I wonder who is starring all these messages
 
oh sorry, my memory's pretty bad. I star messages so next time I can continue reading from where I left.
 
That's what the dotted line is there for
 
lol I'm joking
 
I usually post a test message for that
 

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