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12:01 AM
This macro looks really nasty and sophisticated at once. I will definitely test it. — user229898 Dec 14 '09 at 17:06
 
@milleniumbug Why are there 5 different people giving the same answer?
 
Five times the rep!
 
@Nican snack overflow
Also, hey, this is terrible as hell:
 
@milleniumbug 190 upvotes in 2 days, so jealous
 
@milleniumbug stop being like cat
 
12:06 AM
if (((int)ptr & (sizeof(*ptr) - 1)) == 0) { /* ptr is aligned */ }
 
was about to post another duplicate answer before I realized it was locked
 
@Veritas The result obviously isn't very portable, but with some casting, of course you can. int &x=*reinterpret_cast<int *>(0);
 
What do I need to become a proficient C++ developer?
 
Lurk in the Lounge
 
12:07 AM
@user286508 A good book and lots of patience and willingness to sell your soul to the devil.
 
@user286508 A healthy dose of insanity helps.
 
@user286508 A good book to start and then you write lots of code
 
Thank you
 
@Borgleader i am rock hard
 
yesterday I installed an update for my graphics driver, today my system BSODs
ugh
 
12:09 AM
AMD?
 
Intel? :P
 
@JerryCoffin let me rephrase, you can't dynamically create and store references. So it's kind of pointlessto talk about reference collections. References are not actual objects.
 
@Prismatic Isnt Android studio a reskinned Eclipse?
 
@AlexM. had to help the neighbours with something haha..

I wanted to access the type below the iterator to do this:
template<class InputIt>
bool all_unique(InputIt first, InputIt last){

std::set<typename std::iterator_traits<InputIt>::value_type> s(first,last);
return s.size() == std::distance(first,last);
}
 
@Borgleader no it's based on intellij idea
 
12:11 AM
oh
well it shouldnt be so bad then
You know shaders have come a long way when ^
 
@Borgleader It isn't the code editing part thats shit, its everything that has to do with android
 
@Prismatic what problems have you run into?
 
@Veritas Much better (but for what it's worth, there is a reference_wrapper that does support copy and assignment, so it can be stored in collections).
 
I know, I was replying to Alex. Waiting for operator. to be accepted.
 
12:20 AM
@Veritas I wouldn't hold my breath. Isn't that a really old proposal?
 
@ʞɔᴉN there's pretty much nothing I've found intuitive or helpful about any of the following: creating things, importing things, the non-wysiswyg xml preview bullshit, building things
 
many different proposals that wouldn't get accepted because of small details.
 
'Collection' can be a wide term that extends to more than just pieces of memory.
Also, trivial case of a collection of one ref: struct foo { int& ref; };
 
like why do I have to drop down into a file browser and add files like java activities or native libraries manually? it seems like AS is just for some cookie cutter drag and drop shit with zero consideration of creating big projects with it
 
@LucDanton Luc Races Dan Ton Orbite D:
 
Ell
12:24 AM
I would think of a type or instance of a type satisfying Collection concept
 
Good evening, Lounge.
 
@jaggedSpire Hello.
 
Ell
Good... Very early morning
Time to sleep
Night all!
 
@Ell Awh. Night.
 
12:26 AM
@Ell Later.
 
@milleniumbug unordered_meow seems like a good nick.
 
Yeah
 
@jaggedSpire std::shared_purr
 
I think I'm gonna use it
 
@milleniumbug sweet
 
12:28 AM
@jaggedSpire hello @Ell good night
 
@Borgleader heh
 
hehe
 
oh boy, internal IDE error occured
thanks Google
 
@Prismatic is it your birthday already?
 
internal developer error
 
12:38 AM
Steps to recreate: Create a new activity. Hit the undo button
 
Is that MSVS
 
android studio
 
@jaggedSpire Good evening.
 
@Nooble I underestimated my time away. It was 11 hours, not 10.
 
@jaggedSpire How far away is your office?
 
12:49 AM
@Nooble 20-30 minutes, depending on the time of day.
 
@jaggedSpire Is that by car?
 
@Nooble yep
 
I wish I had a car :(
 
While all you got is cdr
 
would it be practical in NY though?
 
12:51 AM
@ʞɔᴉN NYC no, NYS proooobably
 
nuble is in NYC right?
 
@ʞɔᴉN no idea
 
Yes.
Ooh I can get a learner's permit next year.
 
Windows 10 downloading, 12%
daaaaaaaaamn it goes so slow
 
@Nooble Note to self: avoid NYC next year. :P
 
12:53 AM
also how long does it take chat to notice a name change
 
@Nooble in CA you can get one at 15 1/2 I believe, is it different there?
@milleniumbug a while, took mine like an hour
 
@milleniumbug nice nick.
 
@ʞɔᴉN I need to be 16.
 
Chat takes a lot of time to sync with proper, true
 
@Nooble oh. so the soonest you can get a license is 16 1/2?
 
12:54 AM
@ʞɔᴉN 16, just 16.
@jaggedSpire Don't worry, I won't have the money to buy a car.
 
but you need to get the permit first right?
 
Yes.
 
@Nooble And you're not going to steal one? for shame.
 
@Nooble and then you spend 6 months learning before you can get a license, correct?
 
@ʞɔᴉN Is that how it works?
 
12:56 AM
@Nooble let me rent your gigabit internet
@Nooble that's how it works here, dunno if it's different over there
 
@jaggedSpire I'll steal one and take off the license plates. They'll never know!
 
@Nooble devious
 
If I could build a PC, I can build a car. The Nooblemobile™.
 
Noobile
Wait no
 
@nabijaczleweli too close to nubile
 
1:00 AM
@jaggedSpire yep
Moobile
Moble
 
@jaggedSpire i think this is accurate though
 
> Nubile - (of a girl or young woman) sexually attractive.
???
 
does it have to be a girl?
 
@ʞɔᴉN According to the Great and Powerful Google, it applies to girls. I checked since I wasn't sure it was a gendered term, or if it simply meant "Young and pretty"
 
aw
 
1:06 AM
noobeel
 
I think I've read old books with "nubile" used to describe young men, but they all had that weirdly earnest vibe where the author is completely oblivious to any sort of...implications of their vocabulary.
 
it moves as sleek as an eel, meant to be driven by noobs!
 
See: the "boner" issue of Detective Comics for an example of that vibe if not that usage, though that's more a case of a word's meaning drifting over time.
 
@jaggedSpire they probably just had me on their mind
 
1:09 AM
@ʞɔᴉN kek
 
jagged you take your English very seriously
are you a good writer? i'm always in need of help on essays and stuff
 
I smash my hand on the keyboard and words come out so yeah I am a good writer why
 
@ʞɔᴉN I'm a shit writer
no one knows what I'm saying when I write essays but me.
 
@nabijaczleweli why the fuck was this flagged
 
@jaggedSpire ah same
 
1:14 AM
@Borgleader Because a flaggot came
 
i read so much yet write so poorly
 
I'm slightly ( slightly ) better with narrative style, though I go into purple prose too often to be healthy.
 
I'm, like, the best writer.
 
@Nooble Sure
 
@jaggedSpire haha
 
1:15 AM
Koalas are best writers, except nobody can understand what they write because nobody speaks koalan
 
@Nooble of course, you're better than everyone at everything
 
I go into green prose a lot, it helps with the comments
 
@ʞɔᴉN Read: non-stop action in periwinkle, mauve and violet! how exciting!
 
mm yeah the greentexts
 
@ʞɔᴉN Ah yes, you've finally come to this realization.
 
1:16 AM
@jaggedSpire ok I hate writers who use "periwinkle"
 
@nabijaczleweli Hopefully he fell asleep after doing so
 
@Nooble i'd ask you your hourly rate but I know it's far more than I can afford
 
You know what this sentence needs? more adjectives! The existing adjectives need to be more adjective-y! They need more drama!
 
@ʞɔᴉN I charge 4 eucalyptus trees per hour.
 
@Nooble hands over meth ssshhhh
 
1:17 AM
@Nooble expensive.
 
Only zero if you're an attractive female koala.
 
Can those trees be on fire, or do they need to be strictly non-explosive?
 
@AlexM. in presence of pizza
 
i can only pay in redwood trees though
 
1:19 AM
@jaggedSpire They may be explosive, but I woodn't want them exploding at the time you give it to me.
 
@Nooble facepalm
 
@ʞɔᴉN You're out of luck then, Redwood trees are worth next to nothing in today's koaleconomy.
 
@Borgleader how I feel right about now
@Nooble true, guess I really can't afford you
 
@ʞɔᴉN You can buy me a ford for when I get a permit though, that can cover an hour.
 
@ʞɔᴉN I had pizza for dinner. I wish I'd had pad thai, instead. This is probably indicative of an insatiable appetite for pad thai than any lack of desire for pizza, though.
pad thai is my ambrosia, I think.
 
1:23 AM
Pad thai is amazing.
 
@Nooble There are three different Thai places within a 10 minutes' drive of my apartment. I am very, very happy about this.
 
@jaggedSpire is it über spicy?
 
@ʞɔᴉN Another obstacle is my location. Like many koalas, I live in the dense jungle that is NYC. People come all over the world for my amazing literary skills, though. One of my fellow students crossed a fjord to get to me.
@jaggedSpire There's a thai place near my apartment as well. 2, but within walking distance. I'd say 2 blocks or so.
 
@Nooble I suppose I can't take a plane?
 
@ʞɔᴉN You can get it with different heat levels. I can only tolerate up to Hot, though I prefer Medium.
 
1:27 AM
@ʞɔᴉN No, there's no challenge in that.
 
Sorry to interrupt, but I have a quick C++ question
Do koalas prefer C++11 or C++14?
 
@Nooble I have no idea how I would ever cook anything for myself if I lived that close to a thai place. "Hmm. I could cook something tasty, or I could walk two blocks and have the food of the gods themselves."
 
C++14 is more awesome because it has polymorphic lambdas and std::make_unique
 
C++14 of course
though i'll let the koala answer that
 
Although I do see that there's no point in crossing a fjord to buy a lesson you can't afford from the lord of writing.
 
1:28 AM
Ah, I should have known koalas are lazy and fond of lambdas
 
@audun We koalas prefer C++41.
 
@jaggedSpire I have no idea how I could cook for myself and survive
scrambled eggs 3x a day seven days a week
 
Although since you humans haven't yet invented a time-machine, I suppose C++14 should suffice.
 
@audun this is quite true
@Nooble I think after enduring such trials I should be entitled to free words of advice
 
@ʞɔᴉN Follow recipes of increasing complexity. It's just like programming--don't dick around with complicated low level stuff if it can be done for you in a way that meets your needs. Take advantage of other's hard work to simplify your own.
 
1:30 AM
@jaggedSpire I have no idea how to cook anything, period. Besides eggs and anything microwaveable.
 
IOW outsource stuff
 
@Nooble Pasta!
 
damn I wanted to say this
It's like the simplest thing you can prepare
 
@unordered_meow eggxactly
 
Also french toasts
 
1:31 AM
@jaggedSpire Oh that should be easy...
 
@Nooble And then you can stick stuff in it.
 
@unordered_meow What has happened to you, centurybug!
 
@Nooble Discovered another, O(meow) nickname
 
@jaggedSpire so I need to find an open-source steak library..
 
@jaggedSpire Baconbaconbacon.
 
1:32 AM
@Nooble :P
 
1 hour ago, by jaggedSpire
@milleniumbug unordered_meow seems like a good nick.
 
there's a lot of food that's easy to cook and tastes great, but it's so boring to cook for just yourself
 
@audun Unless you experiment. Then it's borderline hazardous.
 
@ʞɔᴉN Yes I suppose so.
 
@jag
 
1:33 AM
I experiment. Fortunately, I alter small things or I'd have difficulty eating all my food.
 
@jaggedSpire that's exactly when you want guinea pigs!
 
@aud
 
hehe, I thought I could press enter for autocompletion :D
 
Tab.
 
Hmmm, I wonder if I can ping myself
@unordered_meow No, not really
 
1:34 AM
Awh.
 
@unordered_meow
there
 
@unordered_meow You can, use :MESSAGE_NUMBER.
 
indirectly
 
You need your message number.
 
@unordered_meow lolno
 
1:35 AM
test
...
 
@unordered_meow Good job!
 
@Nooble Can you wield a knife without being a danger to yourself and others?
 
@jaggedSpire Depends. Is the knife sharp enough to be dangerous?
 
@Nooble You want it to be sharp, yes. Blunt knives are unpredictable.
 
@unordered_meow just FYI you can't change your name again for another month :)
 
1:37 AM
Yeah, I know
 
More force to cut through object -> less control -> hello, E.R.
 
I'll live with it
 
cool
was a bit of a nasty surprise to me
 
@jaggedSpire I'll say "yes if I try really hard".
 
Apr 2 at 0:34, by Lightning Racis in Obrit
oh fuck ... they fixed the display name change loophole. Looks like I'm going to be "Lightning Racis in Obrit" for a while...
 
1:38 AM
@ʞɔᴉN And now you are headache'd Nick
 
haha
 
@unordered_meow lol
 
@unordered_meow Back when LRiO was still a regular.
 
Huh
@ʞɔᴉN @Nooble I use this website for some of my food. Low cost -> don't feel as bad if/when you mess up.
 
My last kitchen experiment involved acetone, a barbecue lighter, a cup of stupidity, and a decently sized 1 x 1 meter fire.
 
1:41 AM
Holy
What were you doing with an acetone in the kitchen
 
I was 12 and I was testing my ideas for a nail-polish-remover-propelled rocket thing.
 
@unordered_meow ill advised things, presumably
@Nooble yep
 
And the kitchen was the source of a bucket of "just in case anything goes wrong" water.
 
@Nooble testing ideas for a rocket thing in the house.. lol
 
@Nooble Well at least you had a plan
 
1:43 AM
afk heading home
 
@ʞɔᴉN You are not allowed
 
@jaggedSpire It only startled me, really. The only damage done was burning my last ziploc bag for containing an aerosol of acetone.
 
@Nooble shocking.
 
@jaggedSpire "Shocking" was another experiment involving a coil of copper wire, a 125v capacitor, and a charging circuit from a disposable camera.
Being shocked by that thing was actually not painful. It made my hand vibrate, which was weird.
 
> things I was too skittish to do as a child
 
1:50 AM
I tried to make an EMP device, which only succeeded in temporarily disabling a TI-84 from very short ranges.
Not the destruction I seeked.
Which was for the better, because I needed a graphing calculator for high-school this year.
@jaggedSpire The cashier at my local Radio Shack was reluctant to hand over the capacitor I had saved up $7.25 for. Made sense though, I don't think she felt safe handing that over to a kid.
 
@Nooble sought, FYI
@Nooble Heh. She doesn't know the power of the Nooble side of the force.
 
@jaggedSpire Too late to edit :(
 
@Nooble just as planned!
 
@jaggedSpire I shall now disable your electronics with the same circuit, only now it is hooked up to my apartment building's electric grid.
 
@Nooble Oh my.
I'm shocked you would do such a thing.
 
2:01 AM
I just need you to come a few hundred miles closer.
 
@Nooble ...what's the heat index there?
 
@jaggedSpire 84° F.
So around 30° C.
 
The heat index here has been in the low hundreds for the last week, is why I'm asking. I think I might hate high 90's F temperatures with high humidity.
Actually, there's no think about that.
 
I stay home with the AC running.
 
I was raised in a place that is literally so dry I had to use lotion on my hands to keep them from cracking open in the winter. I cannot into humidity.
97 degrees there -> :D
97 degrees here -> *there is no god*
 
2:05 AM
Not at all humid here, just either too cold in the winter or too hot in the summer.
And sometimes a hurricane or two.
But you still have to school, damn mayor.
 
@Nooble Haha I remember that. I went to college near Albany
I was a week late to school sophomore year because my flight was cancelled.
 
@jaggedSpire Personally there wasn't any destruction near me, except some rich guy's house whose front gate got blocked by a fallen tree :D
 
@Nooble oh no not a fallen tree!
Whatever did he do?
 
There was a sudden influx of students into my school, mostly people who lived near the coast.
@jaggedSpire He had to contact the fire department, the tree was pretty huge.
@jaggedSpire Premature vacation!
 
@Nooble hmm. I think I've informed you of the worst weather I ever had back home. Though having the local paper headline read FIRESTORM OF EPIC PROPORTION was pretty neat.
 
2:15 AM
posted on August 01, 2015 by Herb Sutter

The CppCon 2015 program is up! If anything this is an even stronger program than last year, which is saying something. My name isn’t on it yet, but yes, I am giving a talk at CppCon. It should be announced this week.Filed under: Uncategorized

 
2:28 AM
@jaggedSpire Firestorms sound interesting.
 
@Nooble very interesting when you're east of one in an eastward-blowing windstorm.
I was working in a grocery store, and spent a good portion of my days corralling carts because I found it preferable to dealing with people. It was fun watching the flames lick their way towards town. Less fun things: when it started snowing ash.
 
@jaggedSpire Be glad it wasn't a Misty rain.
I've been waiting years to make that pun.
 
@Nooble Since I don't get what you're referring to, I'm going to assume that you're referring to some horrible and implausible high-proof drizzle that would have likely ignited everything within (more) miles.
You monster.
 
@jaggedSpire Pokemon.
@jaggedSpire Although this is nice too.
In Pokemon, Ash (the main character) and Misty were travelling partners.
 
@Nooble Ah. I'm terribly sorry, but I am one of the few among my generation (or so it seems) that almost completely missed out on Pokemon-mania. My experience with it is limited to drawing Pikachu and Jigglypuff and wandering past other kids trading Pokemon cards when I was in Elementary school, and seeing my fellow students at college occasionally play through games.
I drew those two because I knew how to draw them and because I was bribed with sweet elementary-schooler swag I can no longer remember.
I was a mercenary child.
 
2:42 AM
@jaggedSpire I'm sure you can draw Togepi, too. It's a jagged shell with a cute thing sticking out of it.
 
@Nooble sigh
 
Coincidentally the pokemons of Ash and Misty.
 
Looks like you're correct. That's the yellow one, right?
I kid
 
@jaggedSpire :P
 
It is Friday night. Do you know where your Lounge Members are?
Seriously, where is everyone?
 
2:45 AM
The europeans are sleeping.
The others, lurking.
 
wow. The entire top row has been seen within about the last minute.
Hey guys! I'm doing inadvisable things! You should tell me to stop!
Committing crimes against programming.
It's okay to name all my variables with the names for numbers in different languages, right?
 
Can someone help me with C++? It's giving me errors.
 
So, one, two for integers, uno, dos... for floats, etc.
And a,b,c... for strings.
 
@jaggedSpire Yes I'm sure this works, unless someone thinks otherwise.
 
Of course the reason I'd be doing this is so I can reuse them, since I don't want the names to imply the wrong description.
And everything should be in main, right?
With goto statements?
 
2:52 AM
@jaggedSpire You need to use raw pointers for everything.
 
Well, that does without saying.
And I need to new[] and delete all of my pointers, because arrays are better.
 
@jaggedSpire Of course. The standard libraries are for the weak.
 
Even though the stupid compiler says I've got a memory leak. Ha! it's only doing that because it's leaking from the head at my 1337 pr0gr@mm1ng skillz.
 
I see you're asking so many basic questions. Why don't you learn C first, and then learn C++? It'll be easier.
 
@Nooble After all, C++ is just C with classes.
 
2:55 AM
@jaggedSpire Precisely.
 
Please, won't somebody else say something? Anything?
 
We need to break some of the lounge rules to attract the owners' attention.
Tabs vs Spaces!
 
@Nooble :o
ohshit
...I actually am part of the both crowd.
tabs for indentation, spaces for alignment. Keeps alignment when something has the same indentation level, and lets programmers customize the indentation level to their preference.
 
I\tprefer\ttabs\tfor\teverything.
 
@Nooble and how is that going for you? nab tried to kill you yet?
 
2:59 AM
@jaggedSpire He made me install a game just to kill me.
 
@Nooble dedication
 

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