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11:00 AM
@Griwes I know, I was just ranting
I think my new company won't have problems with that
also lol I forgot
will I be getting a company laptop
shit
hopefully it's just a workstation
 
what's the point of reddit if it's going to be the next 4chan?
I mean I understand that there could be facebook after myspace
The whole point is getting more regular users, then sell them ... so the more users you have, the more you worth
 
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@BartekBanachewicz what's wrong with them?
 
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IME inconsiderate jealous asshats are nice people.
 
> Students working at Intel bring the education level down
::DESPERATE_EMERGENCY_PSYDUCK::
you fucking bunch of brainless mutant zombie idiots
3
 
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Students don't work.
 
11:07 AM
@buttifulbuttefly platform impedant
 
> Nie zdziwiłbym się, typowy absurd zjebanego kraju.
 
@rightfold I do
 
> To jest po prostu żenada, co wyprawia polibuda. Biurwokracja w najczystszej postaci. Ponoć ta umowa trójstronna to był jakiś prikaz z góry, tzn. z Ministerstwa Nauki. Wiecie czemu? Bo student, nawet jak nie pracuje, to nie liczy się do bezrobotnych. Dlaczego? Bo studiuje. A jeśli pracuje, to zabiera miejsce pracy tym niestudiującym - i nie daje obniżyć stopy bezrobocia! Nie zdziwiłbym się, gdyby to była prawda - nie tylko ETI wymaga takiego magicznego papierka.
cc @Griwes @nabijaczleweli @milleniumbug
 
@BartekBanachewicz what's wrong with intel?
 
nothing is wrong with Intel
 
11:10 AM
international intel intern
 
@BartekBanachewicz it's not just a magical piece of paper :S
 
@sehe that one they are requesting is
 
ok - my PL is not what it never was
 
Oh, another JetBrains commercial?
 
I like jetbrains stuff
 
11:12 AM
@sehe basically they don't care about what you're doing; what's important is having that paper because of statistics and government-induced somethings
I don't know what it's about
I don't want to know
I just want my diploma
 
@fredoverflow I love how the video starts
 
why can't those people just fuck off and give me one
dunno let me study that one last semester in peace without making me deal with tons of BS
how about that
 
@BartekBanachewicz are you talking to yourself?
 
@BartekBanachewicz lololol
 
13 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@Griwes I know, I was just ranting
 
11:14 AM
oh
 
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Initialiser lists should have had syntax like this <<1, 2, 3>>.
 
@BartekBanachewicz wat?
 
@rightfold Why not simply std::vector<int> x = 1, 2, 3? ;)
 
@fredoverflow I like my {} parenthesis
 
11:17 AM
You mean curly braces.
 
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<1, 2, 3> -> std::vector<int> x;
 
yes, curly ftw
 
real vectors have curves curls
 
put 1, 2, 3 into standard vector of int named x, please   // best syntax
 
@rightfold that doesn't play well with CUDA <<<B,T>>>
triple brackets ftw
 
11:17 AM
I meant mine :)
 
thanks Fred
lol
 
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DATA DIVISION.
WORKING-STORAGE SECTION.
01 x                                    PIC 9(3).

PROCEDURE-DIVISION.
    MOVE 1 TO x(1)
    MOVE 2 TO x(2)
    MOVE 3 TO x(3)
    .
 
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This is the best syntax.
 
lolvector
x can has 1
x can has 2
x can has 3
kthxbye
 
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oh
 
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11:21 AM
x cannot be subscripted
 
@fredoverflow that follows Marco's theorem: Every ask.fm/Whatsapp post from a 12 years old boy trying to be a cool guy can be reduced in polynomial time to a LOLCODE program
 
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whatever
 
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arrays suck
 
sometimes the reduction isn't easy, but proves that morons are NP-complete
 
@BartekBanachewicz Dealing with BS is what is being an adult about. :)
 
11:24 AM
fuck that
 
get it
 
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what is a soulmate?
 
solemate - one & only mate
 
every husband is like that
:(
 
^ sexism
So imagemagick resizing defaults to 3000x3000
@VermillionAzure forgot to ask: are you Cinch?
 
> Hey, those kids aren't gonna take care of themselves. No matter how many times you read Ayn Rand to them.
this is just hilarious
 
@BartekBanachewicz did you buy fucktorio?
 
Yes I bought Factorio
 
@BartekBanachewicz this is the other Rutter piece they're gonna rehearse tonight: open.spotify.com/track/2NFz6FllTiDbkQ1wYkY0H0 Most interesting.
This is raising my expectations of the choir quite a bit (first time I work with them)
 
I tried it today since I was bored, it's a great game
from what I've seen it's being drawn with native APIs on Windows (e.g. GDI+ bitblts)
that's a lot of work
and it's a nice game too
 
11:46 AM
GDI+ is horrible
 
^^ agree ^^
 
@fredoverflow with the right buzzwords. But I fear they inadvertently promote the Java brand of C++ (because it makes their IDE line of products shine more)
 
I used Direct2D lately but there's no compatibility with older windows versions so
 
🏃
 
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11:47 AM
just to say: sublime text also uses GDI+ under the hood
 
I have yet to find a decent 2d API.
 
(Windows)
@Mr.kbok what about Qt?
I like their API
 
> You should probably stop, Mr. Trump. This guy writes for a living and he writes in short joke forms.
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz :D
 
@MarcoA. wut
 
11:49 AM
@Mr.kbok D2D is supported on all supported versions of windows
 
it uses SDL or Allegro
can't remember
 
Log. Zing. In many ways
 
@MarcoA. The runtime is fucking huge and you don't have control of the GUI thread
 
@BartekBanachewicz I just looked at the imported libraries. Your point sounds way more reasonable.
 
@MarcoA. ie it's a framework, not a 2d API.
 
11:52 AM
@BartekBanachewicz wait wtf
 
@Mr.kbok I agree that the runtime is huge but it takes care of porting stuff to other platforms
 
way to go with leaking implementation details
 
@Mgetz Really?
 
and it usually looks the same
 
Yeah but I don't need that anyway
No the real issue is that you don't have control of the event loop
 
11:53 AM
also I'm camping there again because obviously I have nothing better to do
I'd rather play Factorio at my home
 
oh I get it
"all supported versions"
Well if you're going full rightfold over it
 
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@Mr.kbok ???
 
@Mr.kbok they revamped originally it was introduced with Vista
 
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11:55 AM
revampire
 
@Mgetz I guess Vista SP2 is not too bad. At the time I first had a look it was too recent, though.
 
@Mr.kbok removing that control in Hate was a deliberate choice on my part
 
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Install Gentoo.
 
I want to be able to e.g. automatically parallelize or network-ize the game
 
@rightfold "going rightfold" means being completely oblivious of any practical aspect of a project
11
 
11:56 AM
can't do that without taking control myself
 
@rightfold like "requirements"
It's a new expression I made up
 
@BartekBanachewicz is it worth the money? I was thinking of supporting it
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't consider that an issue for a game framework
 
@Mr.kbok YES I AM CINCH
 
whatever the toolkit they use
 
11:59 AM
14 mins ago, by Marco A.
I tried it today since I was bored, it's a great game
 
yes, but I tried the demo
 
@MarcoA. it seems boring
after you get to the mid game
 
@MarcoA. if you expect a storyline, you might be disappointed. Free play is amazing though
 
12:00 PM
much more things you can do later
 
@BartekBanachewicz I like freeplay games. I get bored of stories and usually go seek'n'destroy
 
@MarcoA. then buying the cheapest option shouldn't disappoint you
 
@MarcoA. terrible
 
@khajvah infidel
 
12:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz OTOH you may be using a 2d API for many other things and possibly things where you expect to be able to control when and how you draw
 
ofc I happened to be making a game but sometimes you want to just show a picture
 
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infidel castro
 
When were you planning on telling us you use a 5 y/o version of the library :) Yes. That seems ... related. I hope you don't mind me wasting my time here then — sehe just now
Too much snark?
 
@Mr.kbok what game
 
12:03 PM
for instance if you're building a graph or image processing algorithm you want to draw stuff while debugging
 
@Mr.kbok what game
 
@sehe TEH NUMBERZ WERENT DIFFERENT ENUFF
 
@VermillionAzure github.com/kbok/UPRISING (It's abandoned though)
 
ewwwwwww microsoft types
 
@milleniumbug I'll let them know
Maybe
One day
When I find out who they are
 
12:05 PM
@VermillionAzure Well Direct2D
 
@VermillionAzure GCC doesn't support them
 
@sehe ewwwwwwwwww no support ewwwwwwwww
we need to buttress it. NAO
 
@VermillionAzure sodium oxide
 
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bIlujDI' yIchegh()Qo'; yIHegh()!
It is better to die() than to return() in failure.
        -- Klingon programming proverb.
 
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dat documentation
 
12:08 PM
I so don't wanna work
sunny outside, my motorbike is downstairs
my task is a boring thing
 
hakuna matata
 
@sehe indeed! I've been busy trying to sort out my economical situation, working my ass of for shitty pay - but heck; at least it's something
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's pissing it down :\
 
@VermillionAzure is "add' a forbidden word now?
 
@Mr.kbok abandoned? oh, it's enterprise, that explains it :P
 
12:10 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp are you having fun (you know, co-workers, off-time) too?
 
@sehe not really to be honest
@sehe hardly any time to hang out with friends, nor do things that I really want to do
 
yeah uh I can't wait until I end this job actually
exactly two weeks left
 
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I have to design an instruction set.
 
but you know.. "life is tough on the tough ones" as my mother always says
 
I could use some time off
 
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12:12 PM
And it must be compact since it's downloaded often.
 
gzip it
 
@BartekBanachewicz at least you get payed, right? that's worth something, unless you already have shitload of cash that is
@sehe how are you doing, all good?
 
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@milleniumbug :p
 
@rightfold move
 
I don't get why people who can't install something decide to report an issue in the gihub page
 
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12:14 PM
@thecoshman ???
 
@sehe what
 
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@khajvah because they are morons.
 
@rightfold the only instruction you need vOv
 
@VermillionAzure buttress?
 
@Griwes yes same here
 
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12:16 PM
@thecoshman no.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp reasonably :) Pretty normal here
 
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That would result in very slow execution.
 
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And doesn't provide JavaScript interop.
 
@rightfold subtract and branch if negative :D
 
@sehe butt +ress = butt ress
 
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12:18 PM
@milleniumbug the instruction set shouldn't need instructions to deal with numbers.
 
the apartment was nice but a bit small
 
Noun: buttress (plural buttresses)
  1. (architecture) A brick or stone structure built against another structure to support it.
  2. 2005, Will Cook, Until Darkness Disappears, page 54:
  3. 2010, Tony Howard, Treks and Climbs in Wadi Rum, Jordan, ISBN-13: 9781852842543, page 84:
  4. (figuratively) Anything that supports or strengthens.
Verb: buttress (third-person singular simple present buttresses, present participle buttressing, simple past and past participle buttressed)
  1. To support something physically with, or as if with, a prop or buttress.
 
not a problem since I'll only stay there for a year tho
I think I'll take it
 
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I want to first design a minimal instruction set sufficient to compile any Mill program to.
 
@sehe TIL
 
12:19 PM
@AlexM. how big? How many rooms?
 
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And only after that add more specialised instructions for performance reasons.
 
@AlexM. why?
 
@rightfold: Stack based or register architecture?
 
user1804599
Stack-based, probably.
 
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Easier to generate and easier to interpret.
 
12:20 PM
@BartekBanachewicz one, just like the one I live in now
@BartekBanachewicz because I want to rent one more year until I have money to buy my own
I need to rent it now because I was thrown out from where I live now
I have one month to find another place
 
@AlexM. oh right
but you'll need to decorate your own as well
 
"thrown out"?
 
paint walls n stuff
@milleniumbug he posted earlier today. Bathroom leaking on complaining neighbours
 
ok, gonna lurk moar
 
@BartekBanachewicz yep ideally I'll find one that is not finished and make the bank loan cover finishing expenses too
 
12:21 PM
OMG I HAVE A MOVING SQUARE
GUYSSSSS
I HAVE A MOVING SQUARE
 
I'll see if I manage to get money for a 3-room ap, tho I'm ok with 2 rooms too
 
I'm glad the only loan I have to pay up is the kitchen one
will be done with in 10 months
about right to take next loan for a motorbike :3
 
I'll probably be done with the apartment loan in 30 years :A
tho I plan to buy a house in the nearby future so I'll probably sell the apartment and make it cover rest of the loan and the advance payment for the house if I can
 
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And likely more compact.
 
@AlexM. meh you'll pay it faster
 
12:25 PM
for another loan
 
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Otherwise you need to encode the operand location in every instruction.
 
lol apartment loan
 
@Mr.kbok what?
 
@Mr.kbok you need loans for houses/aps, I don't have 70k eur to spend
 
OMG I HAVE A SQUARE!!!
 
12:25 PM
I can't buy my tiny 2-room ap even if I take a lifetime-long loan
 
@AlexM. if you keep working in IT then assuming regular raises you should be done with it in 10-15 years
@Mr.kbok Paris :v
 
@BartekBanachewicz yep.
:(
 
@BartekBanachewicz yea, that may be true
 
A place like mine is like 350k nowadays
 
I'll get my first raise once I finish college and can stop being "IT technician"
 
12:26 PM
Jun 12 at 13:46, by Bartek Banachewicz
god I so regret I did enter this shitty industry now
 
I don't know how much I'll climb from there though
after the college thing my salary will be in the high end range for mid-level engineers
add a bit more and it becomes low end for seniors
 
@VermillionAzure it seems like you are also having an orgasm
@AlexM. You should think about writing a dumb mobile app and earning a lot of money
 
@rightfold this one is for you searchlite.nl/vacatures/… /cc @ven
 
> In a batch file REM at the start of a line signifies a comment or REMARK, alternatively adding :: at the start of a line has a similar effect.
wtf I kept reading REM IF NOT EXIST dir as "remove if not exist"
what kind of insanity is this
 
@AlexM. You need syntax highlighting
 
12:35 PM
yea that would help
 
@AlexM. This is exploited in MSYS2 where they write their comments like:
rem ember that xyz is aaa when ...
 
korea
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is this mexico border?
 
Yeah, US-Mexico.
 
12:36 PM
oh :(
I suck at guessing
 
@Mr.kbok the text on the sign isn't korean :P
 
ooh, domain is running out soon, best make sure I pay for more of that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which side is which state?
 
@AlexM. I tried to answer as fast as possible :P
 
I guess left side is US?
 
12:37 PM
@Mr.kbok Korean DMZ is 4km wide. (And it is the most militarized border in the world)
 
@wilx I have a wild guess..
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, ofc, I forgot the DMZ.
 
@milleniumbug lol
@R.MartinhoFernandes those people need to chill
 
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@sehe lol C++ and COBOL
 
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12:39 PM
sorry but I prefer a job without too much horror
 
like python job?
 
went outside 2 times today
5
now my tshirt started smelling of sweat ugh
 
2 times too much imho
 
@AlexM. holy fucking shit
 
I miss autumn
and winter
especially winter
 
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12:40 PM
Also it doesn't tell me which company it is.
 
it's not even THAT hot
 
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And it requires at least HBO.
 
31 deg
what do i do when it gets to like 36+
do i die
 
@rightfold you mean like the TV channel?
 
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No.
 
12:41 PM
@AlexM. yes
 
Twas 40+ on Saturday.
 
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Education in the Netherlands is characterized by division: education is oriented toward the needs and background of the pupil. Education is divided over schools for different age groups, some of which are divided in streams for different educational levels. Schools are furthermore divided in public, special (religious), and general-special (neutral) schools, although there are also a few private schools. The Dutch grading scale runs from 1 (very poor) to 10 (outstanding). The Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA), coordinated by the Organization for Economic Co-operation and...
 
Then thunderstorm and heavy rain.
Just like in the tropics.
 
@AlexM. nah I survived 40+ a few days ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes RIP me
 
12:43 PM
hmm... might swap to a vp3 with ovh... I'd lose a core, but it'd be cheaper and just as much ram. It's running mine-craft... so it's the ram that I need... well it also technically running a mail server... but I don't use that...
 
@rightfold so it's like bachalors degree but different
 
lol, I've not even hit 10% cpu in the last year, yeah I think I can afford to lose a cpu core :P
 
@rightfold when do you become a vertex buffer object (VBO)?
 
@rightfold lol. You are that.
 
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@khajvah no, HBO isn't a degree.
 
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12:49 PM
You can earn a degree there.
 
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@sehe no I'm HAVO.
 
Right.
define: denkniveau
 
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Adjective: dwaas (comparative dwazer, superlative meest dwaas or dwaast)
  1. foolish, stupid
Noun: dwaas m, f (plural dwazen, diminutive dwaasje n)
  1. a stupid person, fool
 
Noun: ervaring f (plural ervaringen, diminutive ervarinkje n)
  1. (countable) experience (act of experiencing, something that is experienced)
 
I wanna do skydiving
 
12:51 PM
dwanky
 
but it's expensive
 
good excuse
 
well alright then
 
I mean, it's not if you do it once but you gotta practice to have good fun and that means many flights
 
@rightfold I'm guessing HBO is a serie of classes on professional topics
Got it
series
I'm so funny
 
12:56 PM
no, you aren't!
 
@Jefffrey like a sausaggio on pizza
 
salsiccia, goddamnit
 
sausaggio sounds funnier
 
what a question
 
12:57 PM
I say it out loud at times and laugh
 
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@sehe also a company which deals with COBOL programs of several multinationals is unlikely a nice place to work at.
 
Don't encourage him
 
we should make a sausage pun contest
my AI passes the thuringer test
 
@AlexM. So that mean I'm funny
 

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