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9:00 AM
I did some ruby last night
 
Trying to fall asleep?
 
nah just waibz
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh well. I gave the spotify links for a reason. But it's kinda important for you to at least cover the important tracks of those works... The live feed auto-selects them for you :)
 
listening to 3rd right now
 
@buttifulbuttefly nicce
 
9:11 AM
does it have to be in .txt? my file is currently a .jsonMLMLTL 4 mins ago
Made my day
@BartekBanachewicz Note that later in the feed I switch from Mic to soundcard monitor, so it gets better (and loud). And I just remember I played Rutter's Gloria in the end
 
@sehe he he he
 
Welp I just got destroyed on Meta
And I'm glad I got destroyed.
 
 
@VermillionAzure Link so we can downvote you further?
 
@buttifulbuttefly #meta
 
9:23 AM
-7
A: Ideas for proposals to help Stack Overflow create a more positive community?

VermillionAzureCreate a canonical section geared towards "new" users. It's a huge concern to the current community that some people don't look up answers correctly and just create questions without abandon. Why not create a section geared towards those users so they don't ever create a new question in the firs...

 
@BartekBanachewicz oh thanks i wanted to get the duplicated question
 
terrible
 
> it's what can we to do take action
 
awful
 
let's talk about taking action more
 
9:25 AM
@BartekBanachewicz I just did.
 
@sehe old
 
@VermillionAzure that was meant to be sarcastic
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not being sarcastic.
I just posted the meta question to reddit
This is an awareness issue that 1600+ people have a misconception what SO is supposed to be or whatever.
 
You don't understand stackoverflow is governed by a handful of overprivileged trolls
 
@VermillionAzure it should be a help-desk, no?
 
9:27 AM
@Mr.kbok Either way, people are also trolls in real life.
 
They are power-thirsty nazis that will close your shitty jQuery question without any regards for your feelings
 
@Mr.kbok Dude, I've been on the side of that coin.
 
why did yo make a new account ?
 
9:28 AM
To be fair, the site seems fairly good at picking up on similar questions. I often find the easiest way to search is to start asking the question to get suggestions I might be duplicating. Maybe a new question can go into some sort of hidden area for like an hour... people can see the question waiting to be asked and questions SO suggests are similar, we can then 'close as dupe' before they are even opened.
 
1
Q: Should we downvote misinformed questions, even if they are fixed?

CinchI've been a member of Stack Overflow for about a year, and I've been question banned for about a month. Here's the question that I especially am focusing on: Does the change in lower bounds for the char type in C++14 break compatibility with ones' complement systems? While the original question...

^ Here's me bitching.
 
> I have dealt with some pissed off clients in the past but never ones who have their own death squads. (re: hacking team)
 
It's okay to post shitty questions, SO takes some time to get used to. What's not is to throw a fucking tantrum because someone downvoted it since it's literally the first google result
 
@khajvah why do you think.
@Mr.kbok My answer was to simply make the answers more obvious and easier to read if they can't realize it's the answer they're looking for
It seems like people have the no-bullshit mentality. Which is fine.
 
I always leave some time for the OP to fix (after I comment). When it's still there unchanged in ~a day then I'll downvote
 
9:30 AM
duplicates are useful too
they are not the main problem of SO
 
But this only works for me because I follow a very limited set of tags, in which it it easy to revisit them all in a day or so
 
Meh.
If I could, I'd start my own programming Q&A website.
 
> programming website
 
But that's not going to happen because I don't have the skills.
 
what does it mean?
 
9:31 AM
A website that produces programs of course.
 
silly me
 
A "programming website" is like a "talking robot"
 
"<topic> website" a website on the topic of <topic> vOv
 
@thecoshman sounds like a dictionary.com definition to me.
 
not at all
 
9:35 AM
Noun: website (plural websites)
  1. Alternative spelling of web site
  2. website n, c (singular definite websitet or websiten, plural indefinite websites, plural definite websitene)
  3. website f, m (plural websites, diminutive websiteje n)
  4. website m (plural websites)
(I lub that feature)
 
lol
web site: alternative spelling of website
 
> lub
 
Anybody want to upvote if they're pissed at the article?
 
wrong spelling bub
 
9:37 AM
@TonyTheLion totes perf
 
@TonyTheLion boob
 
@VermillionAzure no, SO is not a place for flower power, it's about learning and being right. Sure people don't need to be nasty, but people seem have a real problem with being told they are wrong.
 
@thecoshman Why shouldn't this get upvoted?
 
khajvah stop bartekking
 
9:39 AM
I mean if people are misunderstanding the purpose of the website, somebody needs to tell them.
 
:D
 
@thecoshman well. I think I agree.
 
@VermillionAzure vOv I really don't care, you kids play along nicely now
 
@VermillionAzure you should apply for moderator
 
But I'd phrase it as "for many people, community comes first" <-- that's the non-goal
@VermillionAzure And we do
 
9:40 AM
@sehe admit it, you love me!
 
@khajvah And fail? No. Besides, nobody likes me. (Star if you mean it)
 
heaps
 
@VermillionAzure I like you <3
 
@khajvah DAMN IT HATE ME MOAR
 
You live in Hawaii, I like you
 
9:41 AM
oooh balls. I got my hopes up there that this git svn clone was nearly done, was just having a mid clone break to do... something
 
@VermillionAzure I'll try. How about tomorrow, 21:00 CEST?
 
I wanted to ask something but I got distracted and forgot the question. Damn.
OH!
Remembered.
Is there a platform where time_t is actually not integral type?
@VermillionAzure: Nope, not that.
 
92
Q: What is ultimately a time_t typedef to?

kalI searched in linux box and saw it being typedef to typedef __time_t time_t; But could not find the __time_t definition.

If it's not, it's probably niche.
 
> The clock_t, size_t, time_t, [TMR] clockid_t, and timer_t types shall be defined as described in <sys/types.h>
> time_t and clock_t shall be integer or real-floating types. (pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/basedefs/sys/…)
 
@VermillionAzure Yeah, I have seen this one yesterday. I needed to round a time_t value down a minute and I had to use std::fmod instead of plain %.
 
9:45 AM
So you mean, any platform where it's real-floating point
 
That is why I am asking, is there an actual platform where it is a floating point?
 
> I needed to round a time_t value down a minute and I had to use std::fmod instead of plain %.
@wilx Apparently, then
 
@sehe I had to use std::fmod because I knew about the specification allowing floating points, not because it is actually a floating point type on Linux/Windows/FreeBSD/anything I know.
 
isn't time_t the unix time thing
i.e. the number of seconds since the epoch
 
@AlexM. Yes.
 
9:47 AM
i.e. integral if common sense
I wonder why floating points would be appropriate and where too now
 
@AlexM. Common sense is not allowed here. The specification allows floating point. :)
 
assert(!common_sense);
 
@VermillionAzure ahahaa
 
user1804599
time_t is awful.
 
user1804599
Use Noda Time.
 
9:49 AM
@wilx ah
@rightfold wut. "Air pollution is awful. Use chopsticks"
 
> Okay, you're now running a bot that posts things to bitbuddychat.
ahaha
 
user1804599
@sehe no.
 
I got a bug report for log4cplus that daily rolling file appender rolling was drifting so I solved it by rounding down before computing next rollover time.
 
user1804599
Chopsticks aren't an alternative to air pollution.
 
lol
 
9:51 AM
you should have fixed it by moving the file appender to a drag track
 
user1804599
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user1804599
I proposed this years ago.
 
user1804599
fuckers
 
I should study. Uff... too hot today
 
yes it's hot :<
 
9:52 AM
your mom is..
oh nevermind
 
I have to wear black or very white clothes
otherwise the wetness gets really visible
especially on my back
I hope I lose weight soon
and stop sweating like a pig
 
fap more
that burns calories
 
I need an inflatable doll if I want to lose calories for real :A
2
 
@AlexM. lol
 
@rightfold Noda Time is not an alternative to time_t.
 
9:54 AM
Alex when are you starting your new job
 
What about a real girl (not doll!) instead?
 
it's related to the application domain
 
@BartekBanachewicz first monday of next month
I can't wait, I'm excited as fuck <3
 
that's soon
 
@wilx He wants to lose calories, not euros
 
9:54 AM
yep
 
I'm not sure when I should start
 
Oh boy
Jobs
 
@wilx haha yeah I don't know
 
was thinking about 1st of September actually
that would give me over a month of vacation
but I'd have less cash that way
and I need money for autumn motorcycle gear sales
 
@sehe I was not talking about a hooker. :)
 
9:56 AM
I'm gonna brag here
the thing I'll be working on is used at CERN for their LHC ni.com/video/3290/en
can't wait to see all the stuff people do
 
I should pay taxes and stuff and then I'll take a look at my budget
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't really feel like vacationing and that's good since I have to move out now
the owner threw me out after the neighbor complained too much about the water thing lmao :')
 
about the what
 
the flooring in my bathroom is poorly done so water goes through it and starts dripping in the neighbor's bathroom
 
uh
so how is it your fault
 
9:59 AM
Hi, is this an appropriate place for a C question?
 
legal responsibility
@Warosaurus nope (thanks for asking)
 
@BartekBanachewicz the owners paid the same guys 3 times to fix the floor after they failed 2 times
they're just incompetent
and it was always just patching
never a full overhaul
 
> I'm not trying to threaten (I am not personally a dictator of a repressive regime), just trying to warn, and save lives. lel
 
@AlexM. ditto
 
tbh I'm glad I'm leaving the idiotic being under me was getting annoying every time I went out of the place
 
10:00 AM
@sehe Thanks! :)
 
I'm sure the feeling is mutual but...
I care about myself more
now I gotta find a nice place with a balcony
 
shit so much money in taxes
 
this time in a new building and not some hundred years old apartment block
 
I hope those fuckers won't find it necessary to correct my calculations
I was too lazy to find an accountant so I became one :/
 
> July
> taxes
what?
 
10:03 AM
I'm doing different taxes than you :)
quarterly income tax for businesses
 
Bartek is a company
Bartek Ltd
 
actually it's called "Bartosz Banachewicz"
I kinda regret not naming it "Bartex" or something
 
poor soul
 
Bartalex
let's partner up
 
what would we do
 
10:05 AM
not haskell that's for sure :P
 
fuck being a "x language shop" anyway
 
we can do this
May 18 at 14:52, by Alex M.
Apr 27 at 20:38, by sehe
Uh. @BartekBanachewicz and @AlexM. have started an evil team: Enterprises Hit by BARTALEX Macro Malware in Recent Spam Outbreak
 
wot
Bartek is company?
 
@AlexM. whistles
 
> Macroses
 
10:07 AM
@Griwes what about Macross?
 
yes our english would be a bit better than that should we make Bartalex 2 Ltd
 
hmmmmm doesn't look that bad
 
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@BartekBanachewicz I think that's what happened to the old digg lol
it was bought to get their programmers and the actual site and stuff were given to some other company
 
10:08 AM
I should be able to survive one month
 
can't remember the details
 
Damn, I did read this as C++ bukkakke
 
mmm actually I should be able to afford this one-month vacation
 
I'm actually doing good at losing weight tho
now I'm able to tie my belt two holes further
and my jeans still slightly fall down
 
ooops. Did you compile the right sample? Your code compiles and the error references dynamic_cast only — sehe 2 mins ago
lol today's a good day
 
user1804599
10:16 AM
it's so cold
 
user1804599
brrrrr
 
@AlexM. it's funny
I had a talk with my GFs brother yesterday
about how I switched to motorcycles from bikes to gain weight
I should eat more :S
 
motorcyclists never gain weight because they have too much sex
 
user1804599
@sehe :'( :'( :'(
 
user1804599
10:19 AM
:::'''(((
 
'''(((::: (prefer UNICODE ordering)
 
user1804599
UNICODE
 
ordering
 
user1804599
prefer
 
'''(((:::
 
user1804599
10:22 AM
(
 
if I could go back in time I'd go visit gamedevs and show them today's games
e.g. I'd show Id how quake 3 will run on low end phones in 14 years
 
inb4 DooM logo comparisons
 
user1804599
C++ is doom
 
user1804599
I want to work on software.
 
Pet peeve of the day: SSH apps on the Play Store that can't use keys.
 
10:24 AM
@StackedCrooked have you ever thought about building a front end for coliru on android
 
@AlexM. there's a mobile web version already
 
@AlexM. I'm thin and I sweat like a pig :(
 
@BartekBanachewicz I can't seem to be able to get the layout of the site to work properly on my phone
on chrome
 
gargle krum
 
when it autozooms for input everything goes to hell
I wonder if you can add plugins to vim on android
I could add a plugin that makes requests to coliru for the current file hmm
 
10:29 AM
@buttifulbuttefly pan galactic?
Hi
 
yup you can add plugins to vim touch
I can definitely see this working on a 12" tablet like the galaxy tab pro
with a keyboard
 
@AlexM. hackers keyboard works nicely with vim touch
 
man
everyone is up when im up late
 
10:36 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I've been using one that's rather nice... supports keys too iirc
 
@AlexM. looks familiar
 
'ConnectBot'
 
is it not weird to use a touch keyboard? I was thinking about an external bluetooth keyboard
 
@VermillionAzure I don't go away much
@AlexM. Yes it is
 
10:37 AM
so
 
so
 
I apparently need to go to my uni to prove I've done/I will do an internship
because an internship is mandatory to get BEng
a month of it or something
 
BEng!
 
I just settled for doing the same thing at the new workplace instead of here
I don't wanna start making papers for it and then leave the company
again
haha at the prev prev workplace the people were pretty mad
IM NOT GOING TO HELP YOU DO YOUR INTERNSHIP PAPERS YOU'RE LEAVING
even if I worked there for a year
the joys of working in a tiny place, people think you're screwing your relationship with them over if you find a better place to work in
the atmosphere there was family-like
@BartekBanachewicz what's a BEng btw
 
Bachelor of Engineering
anyway uh fucking
 
10:42 AM
my degree will be lame
"Programmer"
 
I could theoretically do that thing basing on my company thing
BUT
 
I mean it's bachelor's in computer science but
 
I think I was supposed to go there before I start
 
the official title is "programmer"
 
which is retarded af
I mean if you were to accept the "internship" before it even started why don't you accept it after you now know everything about what I did there
 
10:43 AM
college rules are weird
 
it's an invention made to fuck with people
 
the internship part was especially disorganized at my college last year
 
it has no benefit whatsoever, it's just another obstacle thrown at you by that shitty uni
 
the secretary took all of the papers and told students
 
and of course there's ONE person doing all the paperwork for everyone
and he goes to vacation when there's the most demand
 
10:44 AM
"if you don't see the grade on the site in one month file a complaint or sth like that I don't care"
it all works out in the end tho don't worry
 
One can only imagine the
@BartekBanachewicz this is statistically very probable
 
user image
14
 
does linux leave traces too
 
Yes. Traces of nuts
4
 
o_0 so as this git svn clone progresses... it's shrinking the size of the repo
@sehe well, technically they are seeds
 
10:49 AM
@sehe he's available on tuesdays 16:30-18 and wednesdays 10-12
 
@sehe lol
 
this is just
uh
 
god it's so fucking hot
 
it's so hot fucking god
 
is god a woman?
 
10:51 AM
who cares
Anal sex is platform independant
 
@buttifulbuttefly is it not usually this hot in tokyo?
you're from tokyo right
 
@buttifulbuttefly It's gay sometimes
 
No I live in HK, it's not as hot but it's vastly more humid so overall it's worse. But the buildings all have aircons.
 
uh seriously
 
I was expecting "no you idiot I'm not from tokyo"
 
10:52 AM
it's possible that I won't be able to do that
 
the heat has weird effects on cicadas I see
 
I am from Tokyo
But I live in HK
 
:<
 
I hope my new company will agree to this stupid shit paperwork for my uni
if they won't, I'm pretty much fucked
 
I have yet to meet a company that wouldn't
 
10:53 AM
I believe the fucker won't agree to take any of my past work as a "internship"
 
@thecoshman I used that, but I wanted scp.
 
@AlexM. it has bullshit like "the company agrees on letting a visitor from the uni inside that will verify that the student is doing the practice"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think you just want to drop to a linux terminal :P
 
@thecoshman Er, no, I want scp.
 
@buttifulbuttefly needs mounting hardware :\
 
10:55 AM
I just think it's dumb as hell that after working in the industry for years already, I have to go through those hoops to prove I'll be working for another 1.5 month
like, not even working
doing an internship. Until recently it wasn't even possible to do a paid internship
 
well you can't prove that you worked before, can you
how could you?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just encrypt it, put it on a public file share site, then pull it down and decrypt it :P
 
fucking inconsiderate jealous asshats
@AlexM. by showing all of my previous contracts?
 
is it even ok to do that :O
 
Obviously?
 
10:56 AM
@BartekBanachewicz or at least be willing to let you keep the job vOv
 
That's how you prove you've worked. Duh.
 
@AlexM. he prolly won't accept any of those
 
also would colleges cross-check with your past employers
for every student
 
@BartekBanachewicz Who is "he" here?
 
to ensure that the work was relevant
 
10:56 AM
@Griwes the guy that does the internship paperwork
 
here the company needs to sign an agreement with the uni and you need to fill a paper with what you've done at the company
 
@AlexM. My uni requires contracts between the company and the uni to accept work as internship.
 
to prove that it's relevant to your practice
brb gotta see an apartment
hope it's nice
 
@AlexM. We do that last part ourselves. Basically if the company has a contract it's all pretty much done at that point.
 
"relevant", lol
as if the course was relevant in any way
brewing coffee is more valuable technically than half of the classes so there
 
10:58 AM
Come on.
You know what was meant by that.
 
my work placement for my programming based course was basically as a network admin... it was a fun yeah (co-worker more than work) but yeah, bugger all to do with my course.
 

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