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12:00 AM
o.O
 
Heh.
I'm already at the point where reaching the limit will make it impossible for me to pay it within a month.
 
I hate credits. I'd rather prepay or single-use CC
I don't know any card firm that allows me to do that easily yet. Apparently they want people to loan
 
credit card companies are sometimes good as a line of protection when you buy something and get scammed
 
Have you actually got something reimbursed that way? I've only heard horror stories of CC companies blaming the CC user for "consenting"
 
No I've never issued a chargeback but its fairly common. They are also good about monitoring and reversing fraud; one time someone bought some clothes from a retailer worth several thousand dollars apparently using my credit card... no idea how they got it. They called me and checked what was going on and reversed the charges immediately.
 
12:11 AM
@sehe In Canada the law puts the burden of proof on the side of the credit card company. That is, they have to prove that you actually did the purchase.
Most of the time when you ask to remove a transaction from your account they just don't care and do it.
Of the few times I had to do that, customer support has always been very helpful.
 
@Jefffrey livecoding.tv/video/… has the live feed of most of the activity reviewing/refactoring your answer there. In case you want to hear my comments as I go :) /cc @Borgleader
 
@sehe I was watching part of it, but i missed most of it. Will watch later.
 
Organizing the vods is more work than the recording. I'd love for some ways to sort the vods by date and maybe edit them (trim start/end) etc.
 
@sehe I wonder if Twitch has better support for that.
 
> Save your past broadcasts on Twitch for 60 days.
mmm
That seems limited
 
12:20 AM
Yeah that's for n00b accounts ;)
http://www.twitch.tv/day9tv/profile/past_broadcasts
Im not done scrolling and I can see VODs of January
 
Do you know someone with a twitch?
 
Not personally no
Ive wanted to stream on Twitch if only as an excuse to use this
but I want to make a custom avatar first :(
 
@sehe I bet you bashed my repetition of char_('%') >> char_('%')
:3
 
@Jefffrey and the fact that you use "capturing" expressions and then use hazardous tricks to subsequently ignore them :)
I didn't even realize how much of a spam magnet my hotmail account has become
 
hello everyone :D
 
12:35 AM
@sehe You mean that raw call?
 
inb4 cyclic traversing of array
@Jefffrey no. I meant
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Q: Boost Spirit: "Semantic actions are evil"?

KostyaReading and watching this presentation: http://boost-spirit.com/home/2011/06/12/ast-construction-with-the-universal-tree/ I've discovered this statement -- basically we are suggested not to use semantic actions. I must admit, that I've already felt something like that: grammars with semantic act...

 
lol, I just received all your notifications
@sehe Oh, no competition. I just took that question as a reason to take a brief look at Boost Spirit. I expect major problems, but at least it compiles. :P
 
@Jefffrey I hardly believe that was "a brief look" :) The pitfall re. auto rules is rather obscure
 
It is, but it's easy to find your SO answer that says that Boost Spirit does not work well with auto.
 
:D That's not the first thing that usually happens when people give it "a quick look".
I guess for loungers things are slightly different
 
12:44 AM
he he
@sehe Honestly when the only change from a working version to a segmentation fault version is that you moved some parts of the grammar into a variable, you kind of suspect that there's some reference semantic going on somewhere. And from there, IIRC, "boost spirit segmentation fault" gives your answer in the first few results.
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A: Segmentation fault only in optimized builds in Boost.Spirit.Qi grammar initialization

seheYou cannot (safely) use auto on Spirit expression templates. That leads to UB. Will post a fixed version soonish(awaiting information). Meanwhile, see: Assigning parsers to auto variables boost spirit V2 qi bug associated with optimization level

This one
And I took the idea of qi::copy from here, which is one of the two links.
 
@Jefffrey hehe. Good intuition there
@Jefffrey Ah. You can see my experience with that predates boost 1.55 :)
I completely forgot that qi::copy got added
 
Wow, so I reported a bug for clang using their bugtracker
 
I should upvote that answer
 
two replies in < 30 minutes
 
@Prismatic How unconventional
 
12:49 AM
@sehe That's why I was confused at your comment
 
@Prismatic Next time use connect again. Not so high-risk
 
I kind of remembered I took that from you
 
@Jefffrey :D I'm good at forgetting trivia. I can remember the important things quite well though
 
Thanksfully. Better that than the other way around.
 
Oh. I forget important trivia all the same :(
Conceptual understanding sticks. And I have a way of creating "mental hooks" (coat hangers, if you will) to remember where to find the trivia again
 
12:51 AM
Hmm, does the video start from somewhere?
Because the livestream starts from a point where it's 50% not my code anymore.
 
Yeah. There's an earlier part. I'm still finding it. I think I linked you the largest part
 
Oh, is it part of the previous livestream video maybe?
 
yes. I'm still working on giving it proper links
 
Do you know how you can see all pasts broadcasts from a user?
It's unbelievable there's no such a link
 
livecoding.tv/sehe/videos ("See more videos from xxxx")
All the way down the bottom. I don't think livecoding.tv UI is very well done
 
12:54 AM
Oh I see
@sehe Found it
 
Must be at the end of the -9 vid then. It's the only one I didn't review
 
~1:20:00 here
 
Yup. *-9 indeed.
 
You guys ever have trouble concentrating on writing software if its the only thing thats going on
 
Yes
 
1:05 AM
@sehe UI is obviously poor. That should obviously be: "See more XXX videos".
 
:D
 
Hahahah, dat qi_lit header
 
@Prismatic Complexity is tiring. And willpower is limited
@Jefffrey yeah. The whys :)
 
My coliru headers are usually much more disorganized
 
My headers are usually incomplete. That's only a problem if @rightfold reviews the code
 
1:07 AM
Like I have <vector>, <iostream>, <string>, <algorithm>, <functional>, <iterator> just for an hello world.
 
I type them out by hand. That makes it easier to be frugal
 
Have you ever created a class where all members and functions are static
 
Sure.
And not just in Java or C#
 
Are there any advantages over just creating free functions in a namespace?
You can always just declare the functions in a header file, then hide the members and any additional machinery in the source file in an anonymous namespace or something
 
@Prismatic I have done that. To the best of my recollection the last time I did the advantage over namespaces was obvious: not all compilers implemented namespaces at the time.
 
1:19 AM
@Prismatic The problem is not everyone would wrap them in a namespace.
 
@Prismatic the obvious: template <typename T> struct X { static void apply() { /* ... */ } };
It's hard to parameterize a namespace
@Ell has an honourable mention there
 
@buttifulbuttefly turns out this stuff is not supported on non TCC driver gpus, yey.
 
1:50 AM
Talking about the GPUs, does anybody know how OpenCL FFTs compare to CUDA FFTs on nvidia hardware?
 
no
 
:D
 
@Mikhail maybe @buttifulbuttefly would know
 
If it's about FFT, I think Mysticial would have been the guy
OpenCL vs CUDA is more of butteful's territory, perhaps
 
Highest paying job on mechanical turk appears to be rating adult video content.
I propose we open a porn website that is about rating porn
 
1:56 AM
To maximize the money it should be fast.
 
@Mikhail So, porn websites?
 
@Mysticial Rarely lasts past 15 minutes
 
So algorithmic porn rating - aka: High Frequency Porn Rating
 
fucking arbitrage
 
@Mikhail o.o lol srsly?
then again youre probably paid less than the bandwidth it costs to watch the videos so
no point really
 
2:02 AM
15 cents
 
@Borgleader How would they ensure you've watched the video in its entirety
 
NSA
 
no skipping allowed
 
2:24 AM
@MarkGarcia not supplementary acids
no, stay away.
I LOVE THE HOLE WORLD YAYYYYYYYY\
YAAAAAYYYYYY
OMG I DID IT
 
2:43 AM
what is conceptually wrong with this: stackoverflow.com/a/17906410/314290
 
you can't change the deleter through the interface once you create the unique_ptr
the only way to do so is to move a deleter through another unique_ptr
so that deleter will always be nullptr if it was possible and when the destructor runs it'll dereference a nullptr = boom
pit of success etc
ofc it doesn't actually stop you from passing in a nullptr deleter anyway but that's your fault entirely at that point
 
@Rapptz But why is it a null function pointer?
Can't the compiler just couple the lambda to it?
 
what
 
Frankly I don't get it
the only thing that changed was that it doesn't take templates and that the constructor doesn't construct a new object implicitly
wait a minute
Ahhh.... I see now.
 
basically, I want my unique_ptr to eat an a pointer to float* and a deallocator. But instead I'm doing some reset nonsense
 
2:54 AM
@Rapptz It's the fact that it's constructed with an empty pointer before he assigns it right?
 
std::unique_ptr<int, void(*)(int*)> x(ptr); is illegal
that's all I'm talking about
I don't know what tangent you went on
 
@Rapptz It's illegal because the destructor is unspecified right?
At that point in the program
 
if get_deleter()(get()) isn't well formed then it's UB
 
In other news...
I just did an SQL-style join in R with a table with over 4,000,000 elements without SQL. Woo.
 
I had some good experience offloading SQL to amazon RDS
FYI
 
3:28 AM
Damn, Anno 2205 looks really good.
 
3:49 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Is that the first in the series to include space?
 
Yes. Anno 2070 allowed for underwater colonies, but 2205 is the first one where the moon is an option.
 
Perhaps the moon would be a good place to manufacture toxic goods because there is no atmosphere.
 
@Mikhail There's a mooning joke in here somewhere butt I forgot it.
 
@VermillionAzure You forgot it like how humanity forgot how the US faked the moon landing.
 
@MarkGarcia US or THEM?
 
3:56 AM
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@Mikhail okay mickey you win
 
4:46 AM
queue::poop
 
 
1 hour later…
6:10 AM
Is lounge ded?
 
yes
 
6:23 AM
hi Lounge<c++>
 
Hey Folks..
 
6:38 AM
@nabijaczleweli this I surmised several hours back
'g moanings
 
Ell
@sehe hehe
 
Lounge really has died. Again, my latest message was still on this screen.
 
Ell
@sehe No, it's uh... just resting
No no not dead at all - it's stunned
 
@Ell What's the difference?
 
6:53 AM
Gah. OP posts the most restricted question about the technicality of starting a thread, and I get a willy-nilly commenter goin'
Try doing some intensive work and then printing the cout. I don't think this example can guarantee this scheduling if the two threads have any intensive work or I/O. — Matt 5 mins ago
 
@sehe I think he missed the fucking join()
 
Any sys admins here that can help me?
 
runs away
 
my postgres is doing too slow io
about 600K/s writing
for some odd reason
and it's only the postgres that is not using more io
the rest of the apps use a lot (although they don't really need that)
 
@Ell It's one of those videos YT won't let me play
 
7:01 AM
wierd
My system should sort out its priorities
literally
 
user1804599
Use a priority queue.
 
user1804599
@sehe downvote close delete ban
 
user1804599
I wish JavaScript had alloca.
 
7:32 AM
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Yep, I'm a professional Lounger :P
 
Link pls
 
@TonyTheLion Remind me never to talk to any of your distant relatives stackoverflow.com/questions/31261673/css-selector-isnt-working/…
 
7:52 AM
@MichaelMitchell Oh yes you need the TCC driver lol did I not mention that :(
Hey it's BoltCock
 
hey its butti
 
Hey it's Porny The Lion
 
hey
 
7:59 AM
@BoltClock it's a lovely community we have
 
hola
 
> Samsung unveils 2TB 850-series SSDs
 
@BoltClock I think this actually explains the situation :P
@BartekBanachewicz now stop, you've gone too far Samsung! SSDs are meant to be smaller faster drives, not just faster drives!
 
@thecoshman A pedant would point out that 'any img tag that is a child of a #gallerywrapper' is #gallerywrapper > img and that you probably meant to say descendant
medium is the default border-width value
 
@thecoshman what?
 
8:09 AM
@BoltClock medium is what I said, no?
 
what are you talking about
 
@thecoshman I think I'm having a bit of trouble parsing your sentence
 
@BoltClock F5?
 
@BartekBanachewicz He's just not ready for SSDs as mass storage drives yet
@thecoshman Better
 
> Dear Amazon S3 Customer,
Based on your usage patterns, we noticed that you might be able to reduce your storage costs by using Amazon S3 lifecycle management to enable automated archiving to Amazon Glacier. Archiving objects to Glacier allows you to reduce the cost of your stored data to as little as $0.01 per gigabyte per month
spot on
 
8:11 AM
@CatPlusPlus how do i mine
 
exactly how he hisses
 
@BoltClock one last edit
 
@thecoshman And you're right, the spec doesn't state what medium is, it says it's up to the browser
 
> You have 0.00000499 bitcoins
wut why not 500
 
@BartekBanachewicz because it's a very good system
 
8:12 AM
@BartekBanachewicz floating point
 
> People on bitbuddychat are talking about bugs discovered in the software used by one of the bitcoin exchanges. Apparently computers can store numbers in several different ways. One of them is called floating point.
ahahahaha
oh my god
 
@sehe opposed to how much now?
 
@BoltClock not so sure. I'm guessing but I suppose bitcoin knows better than to use binary floats
 
this is better than actual mining
much better
 
@sehe thatsthejoke.jpg
 
8:13 AM
@thecoshman ~$4 a month. Lemmesee: aws.amazon.com/s3/pricing
 
@sehe well that's a massive savings then :P
 
Everyone has used floating point for currency at some point in time - they're just afraid to admit it
 
> Point out that there's a floating point error in the status line above.
> No there isn't.
hahahaha
 
@BoltClock it's hard not to, bad teachers are everywhere :(
 
@BoltClock pro tip: whatever you do in the lounge, avoid coming across as naive unless you're a regular. We tend to have PTS reactions
@BoltClock I've never met anyone who was afraid to admit it
 
8:14 AM
@sehe Touche
 
@sehe is that just storage?
or storage as part of a ~cloud~ server?
 
ohwow
TIL about "deploy to heroku" butan
 
@sehe never mind, I read
 
@thecoshman ~~~~~~~~~~~cloud~~~~~~~~~~~
@thecoshman yeah nice one you almost got me there
 
8:16 AM
@BartekBanachewicz aka floaty shit managed by someone else that just works most of the time
 
@thecoshman S3/glacier. (so, storage)
 
@sehe What was it? I enjoyed Shostakovich actually
 
¬_¬ are you limited as to what 'requests' you can use, ie can you use 'PUT_CHEAP' to get the much cheaper rate?
 
@thecoshman "shit" and "works most of the time". I wonder how stable are your solutions in comparison :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz 99.999% is not all the time...
 
8:19 AM
@TonyTheLion not much
 
@thecoshman so what?
 
@BartekBanachewicz so it's most of the time, not all the time...
oh, maybe the use of 'shit' is confusing you...
 
@thecoshman who said anything about "all the time"
 
@BartekBanachewicz then why are you questioning my 'most of the time'?
 
nevermind
 
8:25 AM
this is the most pointless argument ever
 
I know... apparently I was technical enough with my use of an undefined word
I wander how much it would cost to run my MC server via Amazon...
 
Someone just sent me credit card details by error, complete with card number, account name, expiration date, etc
The security in this bank is definitely not optimal
 
@Mr.kbok pics or it didn't happen
 
@khajvah I see what you did there!
He's gonna have some transactions in Georgia soon
 
@BartekBanachewicz stable solutions require horses
 
8:32 AM
Oh I fixed the postgres issue by turning it off and on
amazing things can turning turning off and on do
 
@khajvah Sounds like typical windows fix
 
@Rerito nah I am on linux
 
Still :)
 
yeah
> JavaScript Jedi
 
so, Greece
do we laugh at them yet or not
 
8:42 AM
> yet
still
Is it fun to work in a huge company with 700 developers?
I want to apply for a job
 
I feel sorry for the guys who have to keep coming with new abstract logos for Amazon services
 
python sucks for big projects
 
@BartekBanachewicz You can prolly still listen here: livecoding.tv/video/pki-git-rerere-serialization-mmap-spirit
(in order of appearance, as I remember: Prokofiev 3rd, Poulenc Gloria, Shostakovich piano trie n°2)
 
@khajvah s/f.*//
 
s/trie/trio/ ^^
@nabijaczleweli E047: trailing space
 
8:54 AM
what's up in this fiber
@CatPlusPlus Why would I need fiat dollars they are a terrible car brand
 
Essentially blackmail.
 
No racism
 
@buttifulbuttefly oh now really
 
@sehe boo. hiss.
also do you pronounce iso as ezo
 
@khajvah hey bby u wanna c my big python project
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