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11:00 AM
> down because too not
wut
 
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@fredoverflow it's pretty much the same in any reasonable language with a reasonable library.
 
I need food
 
food needs me
 
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Can't easily use the Scala API from Java though since it uses type classes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz WTF do rare earths have to do with it?
Unless it means something else.
A rare earth element (REE) or rare earth metal (REM), as defined by IUPAC, is one of a set of seventeen chemical elements in the periodic table, specifically the fifteen lanthanides, as well as scandium and yttrium. Scandium and yttrium are considered rare earth elements because they tend to occur in the same ore deposits as the lanthanides and exhibit similar chemical properties. Rare earth elements are cerium (Ce), dysprosium (Dy), erbium (Er), europium (Eu), gadolinium (Gd), holmium (Ho), lanthanum (La), lutetium (Lu), neodymium (Nd), praseodymium (Pr), promethium (Pm), samarium (Sm), scandium...
 
11:04 AM
maybe he means (crude) oil
 
Rare earths are lanthanides.
 
hmmm apparently there's thunderstorms on the way
means there's a chance things will get cooler, yay
 
They're not rare at all.
 
When moisture increases you'll feel even hotter :v
 
@TonyTheLion I'd rather have constant heat than the weather we're having now :<
 
11:05 AM
scandium and neodymium are used a lot in the industry no?
 
@AlexM. what weather you having?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes dunno he probably thinks about an apocalypse where southerners will drive their pickups to the north and shoot gays fighting for fuel and remains of walmarts
with bald eagles flying above
 
@TonyTheLion right now it's ok at around 25 deg but a week ago it varied betwen 10 deg and 22
 
@BartekBanachewicz Neodymium is as common as copper.
Most rare earths are.
 
variations are bad because I often get caught dressed improperly for the weather
 
11:06 AM
@AlexM. yesterday it was > 35 here
 
if it's also raining I get rekt
 
pfffff
 
@AlexM. you need more GoreTex clothing
 
today is 22, which is better
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes thought so
 
11:07 AM
So yes, when those run out, we will be screwed.
 
@BartekBanachewicz the problem is when it's hot enough for tshirt so I wear that
then rain and cold happens
 
Who cares, though?
 
@AlexM. buy a softshell jacket?
 
Lots of things will run out before neodymium. We will already have been screwed for hundreds of years by the time we run out of neodymium.
 
high-tech clothes have much wider temperature ranges
 
11:08 AM
I wear what mom buys for me
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@AlexM. stop being a sissy and buy yourself a leather jacket then :)
incidentally leather has many properties similar to high-tech fabrics
 
how do you wear a jacket at 25+ deg tho
 
by being fucking brutal, duh
 
@BartekBanachewicz Also, there will be no guns by the time rare earths run out: we will have melted them down to use their (then) precious metals.
 
@AlexM. at 25+ deg your body temperature is only marginally higher than the surrounding. It's not a problem if your clothes are thick if your body cooling mechanisms aren't interrupted
 
Xeo
11:11 AM
Aww yeaaah. We got an Icecream Overflow at work \o/
 
the process is sorta brought out to the surface of the clothing
Coolmax, a trademark of Invista, is a brand name for a series of moisture-wicking technical fabrics developed in 1986 by DuPont Textiles and Interiors (now Invista). The fabrics employ specially-engineered polyester fibres to improve "breathability" compared to natural fibres like cotton. 'Wick away' or 'wickaway' is a general term used for fabrics that are engineered to draw moisture away from the skin through capillary action and increased evaporation over a wider surface area. == Structure == Coolmax fibres are not round, but are slightly oblong in cross-section with grooves running lengthwise...
 
how does one see what resources an app uses from dynamic link libraries
these are windows files
 
@BartekBanachewicz Er, that's only relevant if you're already sweating.
Well, guess wearing a leather jacket can help with that.
 
right now I wear this stuff :\ photo.mensfashionforless.com/o/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes well, he complained about temperature drops and occasional rains
 
11:16 AM
I have a light jacket for when it rains the problem is
I don't want to wear it unless it rains and I can't guess if it will rain 8 hours before
 
I know it isnt easy
 
@AlexM. Just do like I do.
 
I really like autumn and winter because I can wear heavy clothes with lots of pockets
 
since its shared or closed source
 
so I don't need my bag for the phone and all that stuff
 
11:17 AM
@AlexM. I have a Superdry coat that has a lot of pockets but isn't heavy
 
I simply don't care.
 
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TIL such clocks exist.
 
@AlexM. I only buy shorts with lotsa pockets.
 
11:17 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What are the thinner stars?
 
something like that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes are you not scared of things falling off?
 
except I like ones with 2 rows of buttons
 
or being easily stolen :O
 
Oh, the ones on the outside?
 
11:18 AM
ok maybe I should try Another chatroom
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I want to learn Tcl.
 
A pentagram (sometimes known as a pentalpha or pentangle or a star pentagon) is the shape of a five-pointed star drawn with five straight strokes. The word pentagram comes from the Greek word πεντάγραμμον (pentagrammon), from πέντε (pente), "five" + γραμμή (grammē), "line". The word "pentacle" is sometimes used synonymously with "pentagram" The word pentalpha is a learned modern (17th-century) revival of a post-classical Greek name of the shape. == Geometry == The pentagram is the simplest regular star polygon. The pentagram contains ten points (the five points of the star, and the five vertices...
 
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Maybe I will write a bug tracker in Tcl.
 
@Mr.kbok I guess it's the stars of the Confederate flag rendered as pentagrams.
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes they're downward-pointing pentagrams in particular.
 
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11:19 AM
 
It's a Mormon symbol.
 
it's a satanic symbol as well
 
I think it's more likely to have a Mormon symbol than a Satanic one. It's meant to offend everyone at once.
 
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> Mormons are a religious and cultural group related to Mormonism, the principal branch of the Latter Day Saint movement of Restorationist Christianity, which began with Joseph Smith in upstate New York during the 1820s.
 
the pentagram is a symbol for doom which is a fun fps
 
11:21 AM
In geometry, the great retrosnub icosidodecahedron or great inverted retrosnub icosidodecahedron is a nonconvex uniform polyhedron, indexed as U74. It is given a Schläfli symbol s{3/2,5/3}. == Cartesian coordinates == Cartesian coordinates for the vertices of a great retrosnub icosidodecahedron are all the even permutations of (±2α, ±2, ±2β), (±(α−βτ−1/τ), ±(α/τ+β−τ), ±(−ατ−β/τ−1)), (±(ατ−β/τ+1), ±(−α−βτ+1/τ), ±(−α/τ+β+τ)), (±(ατ−β/τ−1), ±(α+βτ+1/τ), ±(−α/τ+β−τ)) and (±(α−βτ+1/τ), ±(−α/τ−β−τ), ±(−ατ−β/τ+1)), with an even number of plus signs, where α = ξ−1/ξ and β = −ξ/τ+1/τ2−1/(ξτ), where τ =...
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's usually circumscribed, though (see picture rightfold posted).
 
retrosnub is a cool name
 
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> The Book of Mormon is a sacred text of the Latter Day Saint movement, which adherents believe contains writings of ancient prophets who lived on the American continent from approximately 2200 BC to AD 421.
 
@Mr.kbok gah take advanced geometry away
 
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Cool! Screw Eurazia!
 
11:21 AM
my brain still melts since I was trying to design a grid for potato empires
grids are hard
sphere subdivisions are hard
Meanwhile in the UK:
> "Britain is not a state that is trying to search through everybody’s emails and invade their privacy," he insisted.

"We just want to ensure that terrorists do not have a safe space in which to communicate.
> The absolute privacy of Facebook and Twitter users can no longer be tolerated
 
lolwut
The waht
 
If everything is hard, maybe it's not them, it's you? Have you considered that possibility?
 
WILL SOMEONE THINK OF THE TERRORISTS
 
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Does x86-64 have instructions for dealing with numbers represented in decimal in some way?
 
Ell
is there any data on how useful these laws have been?
 
11:23 AM
@chmod711telkitty No, it's their fault for wearing revealing clothes. When they do, everything gets hard; can't do anything about it.
@Ell These laws haven't been vOv
 
It has some BCD stuff
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I meant the programmes, PRISM etc.
 
do they also mean to ban math
 
Probably
 
The law forbids you to take a power of a prime of more than 20
 
11:25 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes But I can not afford fabrics ... have to make that medium sized dress on a piece of fabric only enough for small, thus something has to give ...
 
the law forbids you compute primes exceeding 10^20
 
Ell
fuck the system, man
 
barbaric island lands /cc @thecoshman
 
united korea
 
@Ell don't worry we'll drop you with leaflets explaining Diffie-Helman exchange from the sky
Poles have a good history of flying over Britain already.
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seoul looks like a great city to visit malls in wasmcongress.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/…
look at that shit
 
long-exposure photo
 
@BartekBanachewicz :D
 
@Griwes glad someone got it
 
sbi
@Ell France has pretty tight laws regarding this. Like storing all phone meta data for months. And it's also the only western European country that has had terrorist attacks recently.
 
11:30 AM
if you think about it, bikini saves a lot of fabric, than ... say a muslim robe (abaya)
 
sbi
@chmod711telkitty Wearing nothing would save even more.
 
I was going to say, but if you go on to the street naked, you would get caught for indecent exposure
Save the fabric, save the environment, wear less in summer! (unless you are hairy, then please be fully clothed)
 
If you're hairy enough you can be fully naked
 
sbi
Given that clothes are a replacement for the fur we lack, why would I have to wear more clothes than others if I have more hair then they do? That just doesn't make sense.
 
I wonder how strong is the "textbook" example of D-H exchange
like, assuming I want a 256-bit AES key that I'd like to share
 
11:36 AM
Clothes are an improvement over fur though; they're much more modulable
 
sbi
Also, what one culture's "indecent exposure" is another culture's evening robe.
 
@sbi Or a t-shirt for that matter
 
Do I always hash the thing into 256 bits?
 
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yay I am learning Tcl
 
11:37 AM
or do I i.e. pick a 256-bit prime
is finding 256-bit primes reasonably possible?
 
@Mgetz late to the party eh
 
Only a li'll bit
 
guys guys the spaceX rocket exploded
 
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again?
 
C++11 is out!
 
11:40 AM
I still admire spaceX courage for even attempt
 
Mickael Jackson is dead!
 
Java has Generics!
 
American now is an independent country!
 
Only your mom is big enough to be an independent country
 
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Tcl is like Nok.
 
11:42 AM
Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus.
 
Moses splitted the red sea
 
The last dinosaur is now dead
 
Space rock hit earth and formed the moon.
@chmod711telkitty Aren't chicken the descendants of dinosaurs or something?
 
moon or dinosaur which came first?
 
Moon was necessary to stabilize weather.
So I would guess moon first, dinosaurs second.
 
11:45 AM
 
weird ... because there are so many species of creatures on earth, but none on moon
Dinosaurs are a diverse group of animals of the clade Dinosauria. They first appeared during the Triassic period, 231.4 million years ago, and were the dominant terrestrial vertebrates for 135 million years, from the beginning of the Jurassic (about 201 million years ago) until the end of the Cretaceous (66 million years ago), when the Cretaceous–Paleogene extinction event led to the extinction of most dinosaur groups  at the close of the Mesozoic Era.
By this definition, we are in an interglacial period—the Holocene—of the ice age that began 2.6 million years ago at the start of the Pleistocene epoch, because the Greenland, Arctic, and Antarctic ice sheets still exist
 
Ell
 
dinosaurs was way before the ice age
Is it possible that creatures are getting smaller because the environment has been getting warmer since the ice age?
 
Aren't we still living in an ice age?
After all, there's ice on both poles.
That wasn't always the case.
 
11:57 AM
I got no ice
 
what global warming? :x
how warm is the equator when the earth is completely out of the ice age?
 
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proc sum {xs} {
    set r 0
    foreach x $xs {
        set r [expr {$r + $x}]
    }
    return $r
}
 
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omg my first function
 
we're well over 300ppmv right now according to my knowledge
this is perhaps more scary
 
People break everything
Users are the worst
 
12:05 PM
@sbi The other way around yes :)
 
sbi
@Borgleader See! I knew it!
@thecoshman Efficiently is the word you were looking for.
 
But ... but ... people need to use CO2 ... they actually produce CO2, they are the developers of CO2? Developers are to blame ...
 
sbi
Anyway, I gotta care for the sick child, cook a meal, pick up another kid... Need to leave now.
 
@sbi Then you are going to sneak out for a date with robor??
 
@BartekBanachewicz what? where are you reading this insanity?
 
12:15 PM
@thecoshman that was sarcastic
 
@sbi I thought that would be a little too obvious :P trust you to try to be efficient about my use of words.
@BartekBanachewicz I wish that wasn't believable :(
@BartekBanachewicz "that doesn't mean it's because of the CO2 though, burn ALL the things!"
 
lol those logos
 
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that'd've been a nice logo in 1999
 
@BartekBanachewicz Haskell logo designed by the Borg
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, they have a point in that these days you get called a bigot, a xenophobe or a racist very easily, just for disagreeing respectfully.
 
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12:22 PM
@wilx racist.
 
Before all hell breaks lose, no, I am not against gay marriage.
 
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I am.
 
Disagreeing respectfully has nothing to do with it.
You're a bigot because of your bigoted beliefs not because of how you express them.
 
@BartekBanachewicz looks 90's ish
 
Noun: bigot (plural bigots)
  1. (derogatory) One who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices.
  2. One who is strongly partial to one's own group (e.g. religion, race, gender, political party, etc.) and is intolerant of those who differ.
  3. bigot m (plural bigots)
  4. bigot m (plural bigots, feminine bigote)
  5. bìgot m (Cyrillic spelling бѝгот)
Adjective: bigot m (feminine bigote, masculine plural bigots, feminine plural bigotes)
  1. over-pious, holier-than-thou
 
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12:24 PM
1. Bartek
 
OOOH
I found that logo I liked
 
by my understanding, which ever side you sit, you'r a bigot
 
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@BartekBanachewicz AKA HO3
 
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Like, oxidised water.
 
@thecoshman not really no
 
12:25 PM
> One who is strongly partial to one's own group
 
@thecoshman and is intolerant of those who differ
 
true...
 
yes reading things till the end helps indeed till the end helps indeed
 
Lately I'm getting terrible delays on Google search
 
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Typed "code is composable" and got autocorrected to compostable; love it when autocorrect knows about the state and quality of my code.
 
12:26 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...and is intolerant of those who differ. <-- This.
 
Maybe duck thing will work better
 
@CatPlusPlus google is watching you!
 
so just being for/against doesn't make you bigoted.
Adjective: intolerant (comparative more intolerant, superlative most intolerant)
  1. Unable or indisposed to tolerate, endure or bear.
  2. Not tolerant; close-minded about new or different ideas. indisposed to tolerate contrary opinions or beliefs; impatient of dissent or opposition; denying or refusing the right of private opinion or choice in others; inclined to persecute or suppress dissent.
  3. intolerant (comparative intoleranter, superlative am intolerantesten)
Noun: intolerant (plural intolerants)
  1. One who is intolerant; a bigot.
 
I respectfully disagree that your opinion isn't complete garbage
 
@thecoshman being untolerant makes you bigoted .
 
12:28 PM
which most of these people are, they have an idea what marriage is and'll be damned if it can change!
but then a lot of people for gay marriage seem rather intolerant of those against it...
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~~because dictionary says~~~
 
Noun: marriage (plural marriages)
  1. The state of being married. [from 14th c.]
  2. A union of two or more people that creates a family tie and carries legal and/or social rights and responsibilities. [from 14th c.]
  3. 1990, John Stevens, Lust for enlightenment: Buddhism and sex:
  4. 1995, Edith Deen, All of the women of the Bible, page 275:
  5. 2009, Charles Zastrow, Introduction to Social Work and Social Welfare: Empowering People (ISBN 0495809527), page 30:
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well there we go, chat has spoken, let the fags marry!
...
 
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omg omg omg chocolate
 
Noun: fag (plural fags)
  1. (US, technical) In textile inspections, a rough or coarse defect in the woven fabric.
  2. 2001, Oliver Sacks, Uncle Tungsten: Memories of a Chemical Boyhood, Alfred A. Knopf (2001), 15,
  3. 2011, Bill Marsh, Great Australian Shearing Stories, unnumbered page,
  4. (UK, obsolete, colloquial) The worst part or end of a thing.
  5. fag (plural fags)
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Verb: fag (third-person singular simple present fags, present participle fagging, simple past and past participle fagged)
  1. (transitive, colloquial, used mainly in passive form) To make exhausted, tired out.
  2. (UK, archaic, colloquial) For a younger student to act as a servant for senior students in many British boarding schools.
 
being intolerant against people who are intolerant is kinda a deep topic
 
12:31 PM
define: bartek
vOv huh, fancy that
 
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being intolerant against people who are intolerant is called racism, sexism and islamophobia
 
nah, it's twatophobia
if you can't handle that some poeple out there are dicks, you're gonna have a bad time
equally...
if you expect people to have to put up with your shit, you're gonna have a bad time
 
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Fins and the Dutch are the happiest people in Europe on average.
 
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They don't have such a bad time!
 
man I just received a header file from the other team
textbook example of bad code
 
12:35 PM
Well duh it's C++
 
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@Mr.kbok publish it for all to see.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I am considering integrating nonius with a c++ project of mine, could you chat later?
 
Yep looks like C++ alright
 
@gnzlbg I'll be busy later on, but I'll be around during the day.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes shall we use a different chat room?
 
12:40 PM
I have to deal with renting a place to live and then I have a date.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes sounds like a nice plan for the day :)
 
@gnzlbg If you prefer, sure.
 
Xeo
@gnzlbg Except for the part where he's homeless until he does the first thing in that list :P
 
@Xeo I'm not moving in before Saturday anyway.
Until then I'm... uh... staying with someone.
 
Xeo
Sure. But you're not technically homeless anymore after you sign the contract
 
12:43 PM
apparently this was done with unreal engine 4
 
Xeo
@AlexM. The guy that does those is fucking crazy
 
@Xeo Nah, I'll still be homeless till I can actually live in the new place.
 
I thought you lived in berlin?
 
Xeo
He's homeless in Berlin
 
12:45 PM
Robot's flat searching algorithm is very unoptimised
 
:|
I delegate. Not my fault if the person to whom I delegated had a meltdown.
 
maybe said person uses an O(n!) algorithm?
 
i hate looking for places to live in
hopefully I won't have to do that for a looong time
the renovation is almost finished
 
@rightfold What do you think
 
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I don't know.
 
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12:48 PM
I didn't see it.
 
you suck
 
the reason why I don't delegate, a lot of the times is that because I don't like to rely on people who are likely to screw things up
 
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No, I work.
 
That's not mutually exclusive you know
> delimitted
kill me
 
@CatPlusPlus Thank you :)
 
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12:51 PM
% expr {[dict create 1 2 3 4] == "1 2 3 4"}
1
 
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this is absolutely amazing.
 
@AlexM. snow forest is amazing
 
Who gave Tcl to rightfold
 
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And it has built-in SQLite support.
 
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I'm sure gonna use this for Hexapoda 23.0.
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12:53 PM
@CatPlusPlus no idea
thankfully it's mostly harmless
 
joke's on you
you don't have the judgement to trust the right people/create the incentives
 
@AlexM. The picture with the trees is beautiful.
Although, I do wonder, is this being rendered real-time at any decent framerate?
 
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And don't worry, sehe. I still have the logo.
 
@Nooble no
everything is baked e.g. lighting
 
12:54 PM
Aww...
Well it's still beautiful.
 
well if it were possible to do that in rt with today's hardware then gamedevs would surely do it :P
 
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And then they'd remove it because consoles
 
@chmod711telkitty You need people that don't suck
 
> "It has quotations, that means I didn't say it" - Me
 
12:56 PM
@AlexM. Nah, it was only his life that collapsed.
 
@rightfold hotlinking: $0.02 per request
 
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This is a coldlink.
 
@CatPlusPlus Sadly this is the case for many AAA titles.
 
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I need to build a C++ library
 
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12:57 PM
worst engine ever
 
@rightfold Nsmr your next project coldlink
 
It will have a C interface
 
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:O
 
@rightfold gifs $0.04, colour gifs $0.05 p/req
 
Because fuck publishing binairies for each fucking visual studio version. fuck
 
12:59 PM
@Mr.kbok hourglass API design
 
Some ports are even locked at 30FPS. The amount of work that unlocking that framerate would have take is virtually non-existent.
 
@sehe Exactly.
 

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