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5:00 PM
@Nooble watch this guy's videos after you get the game youtube.com/user/CurseCS
(the tutorials I mean)
play a bit of casual and deathmatch first and you're set
ez killz ez life
 
Nice.
 
there's a lot to the game and videos help
after that it's just experience to make sure you play consistently
 
@Nooble not sure if i told you, but i decided on just getting a lightweight laptop for work rather than gaming
 
@Columbo yes, already thought of that ;-)
 
@Blob You did.
 
5:05 PM
ok
 
But whyyyyy.
 
@Columbo there are a few caveats that needs to be properly thought through, but the basic idea is what you are saying
@Columbo going to take a look at your constainer implementation in a few minutes btw
 
because my laptop is too heavy to be portable (battery also dies fast) and taking laptop to school makes life easier. and junior year i doubt i'll have enough time to play anyways
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Don't
I'm currently making a big change
 
@Columbo too late
 
5:06 PM
Better check it out afterwards
@FilipRoséen-refp Well, Idc, but I'll ask you to check the new version out as well anyway
 
@AlexM. AWP looks like my kind of gun :)
 
that might change as you play
the preference I mean
I switched roles in my < 400 hours a bit
I find that on average it takes at least 1000 hours to know stuff well enough to be consistent and develop a role properly
or so I've seen with players I've played with
 
@Columbo btw, your implementation of your relation operators suffers from the common problem of being weird in regards of values such as std::numeric_limits<float>::quiet_NaN ()
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Which ones
 
@Columbo the ones where you are just negating the result of some other operator
 
5:10 PM
@Nooble after you're gold nova 1 or so in competitive search community servers for 1v1 arena modes
 
@FilipRoséen-refp ... but those are for containers, aren't they
 
N players are placed in N/2 arenas and are limited to specific weapons
usually it's one of (rifle of choice, AWP, pistol of choice)
 
And iterators
 
you can use that to see over time what weapon you feel most comfy with
 
Which weapon do you use?
 
5:13 PM
at the moment I do some kind of semi-aggressive awping and when I don't have an awp I switch to lurking around the map and trying to flank people with w/e I have
I prefer the ak when I don't have an awp because the first shot is very accurate and a headshot from the ak is a kill
the ak's counterpart (M4A4 or M4A1-S) takes 2 bullets to kill if you hit the head
this is not as much of a problem as it seems because as CT you hold sites anyway and positioning beats accuracy in all cases
 
@Columbo the problem boils down to the fact that !(a < b) doesn't have to be a <= b for "weird" types/values (such as NAN), I mean - this is a common problem, and depending on how you feel it might not be worth spending time dealing with
 
@Nooble note that w/e weapon you choose to be the best with
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I didn't know reverse_iterator could have NaN
 
you need to train to be at least decent with the others
 
Which relational operators are you referring to
 
5:19 PM
CS matches are heavily based on economy
 
@Columbo Constainer::Array<...>
 
The ones for iterators can't be handling NaN values
 
making sure the other team doesn't have money for an AWP and rifles is an objective on its own
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Right, but there lexicographical_compare is applied
Which uses std::less IIRC
 
How long does it take you to debug something in C++?
 
5:20 PM
it's important that you're able to do a good job with pistols especially, since winning an eco round can save your ass and get the other team in a bad spot
 
@DonLarynx for (;;)
 
for two winky faces, each facing away from each other...so inverted sex? (jk)
 
@Columbo doesn't matter what indirection you choose
 
Can I have two typedefs with identical names in different TUs that resolve to different types?
 
@Nooble if you want to watch a live pro match TSM vs NiP starts in a few minutes twitch.tv/faceittv
it's the final
 
5:22 PM
@Columbo ultimately it boils down to being the same thing, and one of the reasons std::rel_ops is considered broken (but only for those "weird" set of entities that yields behavior similar to NaN)
@Columbo it's nothing super important, just the first thing I noticed
 
@AlexM. Final?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I'll keep it in mind.
 
@Nooble the grand final of the faceit tournament
 
@FilipRoséen-refp rel_ops is broken anyway, because it's shit
 
it's a relatively small tournament
 
5:23 PM
@Columbo sure, but the reasons behind it being broken are still valid - no matter if its shit or not
 
@AlexM. I'll watch it anyway.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Of course, I'm just on a random rant about rel_ops
Because it's so shit
 
@Nooble do it because the teams are big regardless of the size of the tournament :P
NiP is in the top 3 worldwide
TSM beat the previous top 1 team at PGL a couple of weeks ago (or was it one and a half?)
this is the first time they perform so well
 
@Columbo how much of a pain in the arse do you want me to be?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp All the way babe
 
5:28 PM
@Columbo specialize your implementations of the functions in Iterator.hxx
@Columbo btw, why do you use .hxx? me not likey
 
@FilipRoséen-refp OHH
Totally missed it
@FilipRoséen-refp Because fuck everyone
@FilipRoséen-refp Will do in a minute
 
@Columbo what the fcuk is the use-case for CONSTAINER_AUTOREF?
 
what kind of GPU does these consoles(xbox one, ps4) have?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp SFINAE
 
@androidplusios.design crappy ones
 
5:30 PM
@Columbo why not write it out instead of introducing a macro?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Wait, lemme find it first
 
still games are playable without any kind of lags @Blob
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Is DRY a reason :P ?
 
@Columbo secondly, it suffers from problems with types having operator, - better write it out explicit
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I never depend on ,, that macro is actually just for that file
 
5:32 PM
@Columbo when doing what you want to be doing, either use a function taking a variadic number of arguments, or use void() inbetween your arguments
 
In hindsight, I should remove it
 
@Columbo then #undef it at the end
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Done (pushed it now)
 
@androidplusios.design crappy games
 
in either case, such macros are not exactly making my pants wet (other in fear of inproper use)
 
5:33 PM
GTA 5 is crappy? -.-
 
@androidplusios.design Their GPU's are comparable to that of the (what was then) high-end 6 year old GPU's.
Comparable to, say, a GTX-480.
 
Ell
@androidplusios.design the games don't require as much computational power
 
@androidplusios.design Well, at 720P 30FPS and low settings yeah.
 
@Columbo why introduce things you never use, and seems to have no use for people using your library? (like the void_t alias-declaration)
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I used it, then removed that use
Forgot to remove it
 
5:35 PM
@Columbo libraries = don't forget things!
 
Should we be concerned?

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30014632/does-this-programming-assignment-make-sense-to-you

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=167375781&s=5bc8fe0af15e0b60e9930b9d56bcf683
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I'm unexperienced, okay
:D
 
@Columbo use std::addressof, not &*x.
 
That's why I got you
@FilipRoséen-refp Is addressof constexpr?
Can it be implemented constexpr?
 
New eject mass feature is OP...
 
5:36 PM
I can't understand. I played GTA5 on my friend's ps3 it was playable without any lags and stuttering but then i played it on my macbook pro retina 15-inch which has 750M 2GB dedicated memory -_-. Results were pretty bad. I got those unusually stuttering, fps drops. @Blob
 
Ell
the macbook pro has integrated graphics probably?
Oh wait
gtx 750M?
 
@Columbo hmm, good point - I wonder if one can hack a userland std::addressof that is constexpr.. I started to think about that a while back, but I obviously didn't finish that train of thought
 
That's an alright GPU.
For mobile.
 
@androidplusios.design Not the same platform.
Hard to compare.
 
5:38 PM
@Columbo I have a few ideas though, but nothing 100% implemented yet - but there are rules of the language to be (ab)used
 
Might be something with your RAM, your CPU, your hard drive, how the port was handled...
 
Ell
@androidplusios.design what settings & resolution was it at?
 
@FilipRoséen-refp ... which is what I am striving to avoid.
 
Although you should take into account the fact that Apple's Macs tend to thermal throttle before turning on the fans. Apple prefers silence over performance :P.
 
16 GB ram, ssd flash drive @EtiennedeMartel
 
5:39 PM
@Columbo not those kind of rules, I'm not always hacking away at peoples the standard's misfortune
 
@FilipRoséen-refp lol
 
@androidplusios.design Probably has something to do with the port itself, then.
 
it's the top model that apple sells
 
@Ell Oh yes this. The resolution would be retina, so above and beyond a console's 720P.
 
@Columbo let me know when you have gotten further with your implementation and I'll take a second look
 
5:40 PM
i have dropped the resolution to 1360* something. It's not playable at 2880(retina)
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Cheers, I will!
 
@androidplusios.design PS3 version probably runs at 720p (or 1280x720). The larger your resolution is, the more resources you need to render (because you have a bigger back buffer).
 
Every game I install. It takes me almost 2+ hours to fix those fps drops & stuttering. They are really killing pc gaming.
 
Is there a class template which takes a function pointer as a template parameter, and provides op() to call that pointer? - coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/8c6fa96418db07d5
 
Ell
it's probably the resolution
macbook pro 15" retina is 2880x1800
 
5:41 PM
> PC Gaming
On a mac.
 
Yeah, retina display is huge. That's demanding.
 
@Columbo I'm currently thinking about hacks that would allow your vector implementation to grow, circumventing the rules of constexpr - even without a constexpr counter (but with that it's quite neat)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I know that more memory is needed for retina may be titan X 12 Gb can handle it. But play games on 1360
and below
 
Ell
also keep in mind the mbp is a tiny package - it's cooling ability is not so good
 
damn, now my lenses are acting all weird
can't see shit
 
5:42 PM
1280* 720
 
Apple hardware is shit hth
 
@androidplusios.design A Titan wouldn't fit in a laptop.
 
@androidplusios.design No, not really, you can run 2560x1440 on 4GB of VRAM.
 
@Columbo could you return the "favor" by getting on IRC and /msg PING me?
 
@EtiennedeMartel We can dream ;_;
 
5:43 PM
I have an laptop coller, does that effect cooling? @Ell
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Ahh, your next article, hu
 
@EtiennedeMartel using an external graphic card.
 
@Nooble The only reason that card exists is that so NVidia could claim they have the best benchmarks, even though in practice it's not practical to have something that large.
 
@Columbo mhm
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what was the within temptation song again?
 
5:43 PM
obvio it won't fit in laptop
 
@Nooble Laptops suck
 
@FilipRoséen-refp wait, how does that work again? /msg refp PING?
 
Ell
@androidplusios.design meh, not really :P I mean maybe
 
I got an actual desktop IRC client now haha
 
Ell
I'm not an expert on this
 
5:44 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yeah I know. Small screens suck.
 
@Columbo if you are on freenode, yeah
 
Ell
my intuition says that it wouldn't make much of a difference
 
@Columbo lol, only now?
 
@Columbo ie. my nickname is refp on freenode
 
@deW1 Which one?
 
Ell
5:44 PM
the only way a laptop cooler works is cooling the chassis right?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the one you linked last night
 
I am gonna built my own ultimate 4k gaming rig......1 more year and then i'll be in army. I'll code & play games that's it :p
 
look in the transcript I don't remember
 
@Ell It forces cooler air up into the intakes I think.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yeah just make me work for it :p
 
5:46 PM
@androidplusios.design Shouldn't be too hard, just throw in an R9-295X2 in it and you're set.
 
@Ell it definitely cool down the chase
 
@Ell that's the idea, empirical evidence shows it really depends on what type of laptop you have. In many cases the only effect is to cool your lap. The laptop might even be warmer
 
ohh R9-295X2 that's a nice one. Also 8GB memory is enough to handle to 2880*1400...I guess :)
 
4GB of VRAM is enough to handle even 4K.
Barely.
@androidplusios.design I don't think it's 8GB, is it?
 
5:50 PM
@Nooble it saddens me that you can't currently run 4k on most graphics cards
 
Ell
4k resolution is massive
 
8GB 1024-Bit GDDR5
 
Massively overrated
 
Ell
If you can afford a 60Hz 4k display, surely you can afford a graphics card that can drive it
 
@androidplusios.design Are you sure it isn't 2x4GB?
 
5:51 PM
@Ell well the memory complexity grows with the square of the resolution
 
VRAM doesn't stack and the R9-295X2 is a dual GPU card.
 
oh
@Nooble i just made an analysis. There are more than 50 videos for every pc games fix.
Youtube need to arrange all of this content nicely
 
lol youtube.com/watch?v=kJa2kwoZ2a4 /cc @LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
@AlexM. my ears
they are bleeding
 
that's what they do when they don't ask questions on SO
 
5:56 PM
he tried to copy kolaveri di https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yYwReG0FdY
@AlexM.
 
@AlexM. oh fuck me
 
> People think I'm somewhat mental...
I'm scared. He reads my mind
 
I got 1m42s in
hah it was that line
 
Dear @CBeginner what about RTFM at msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/w40768et.aspx? — alk 30 mins ago
to flag or not to flag
 
I had to stop watching at the 5th Ooooo...oooo...oooo or so
 
6:00 PM
@Mgetz nah
 
@Mgetz Rude
 
#include <iostream> #include <cstring> using namespace std; int main() { char a[100]; cin >>a; if(strcmp(a,"hello world")==0) { cout<<"how are you?"; } return 0; } this doesnot work either. however the below one works. the only difference being if(strcmp(a,"hello world")==0) and if(strcmp(a,"hello")==0). is it that the space between hello and world acting as the '\0'? #include <iostream> #include <cstring> using namespace std; int main() { char a[100]; cin >>a; if(strcmp(a,"hello")==0) { cout<<"how are you?"; } return 0; } — Shrawan Bk 1 min ago
I just do not comprehend how someone can believe that posting code in that form is a good idea. I just... don't get it. How is their brain wired up? Badly, it seems.
 
maybe they noticed how bad it looks but don't know how to delete it shrug
 
Or DGAF because "plz help"
 
oh wow... someone did a non-MS implementation of annex K code.google.com/p/slibc
 
6:05 PM
oh wow
 
@Nooble the stream is back up and the shit is starting
 
@AlexM. Yep.
 
if you gonna watch it root for TSM
 
@AlexM. But NiP is a funny name.
 
6:08 PM
NiP also has the prettier players but I feel NiP is kinda overrated
I like seeing ex-champions lose
 
Ell
boy rendering glyph sequences is hard
 
Ven
\o, lounge
 
t(-_-)t
Hi.
 
their stream seems to be fucked up :(
owell these things get fixed quickly enough
 
> ffmpeg -i <source> -c:v libvpx-vp9 -pass 1 -b:v 1000K -threads 8 -speed 4 \
-tile-columns 6 -frame-parallel 1 -auto-alt-ref 1 -lag-in-frames 25 \
-an -f webm /dev/null
 
6:16 PM
@AlexM. They got DDOSed?
 
how do i do that last bit (-f webm /dev/null) on windows?
 
@Nooble probably not, it's more likely that they have some hardware failure or sth
 
@Borgleader haha
199
Q: /dev/null in Windows?

Ove SWhat is the equivalent of /dev/null in Windows?

First result for null device windows
noob
 
@Nooble if you like it and want to see more matches check out csgolounge.com
it's normally a betting site but all matches are listed there and there are usually matches every day
there's also hltv.org but damn their UI sucks so bad
it's a pain to navigate the schedule and find streams with matches
 
@AlexM. We can bet?!
 
6:20 PM
you can if you have skins
I gave up because I wasn't getting profits
 
Capitalism in Romania?
 
now I use it to see what matches are happening
and what to watch
(because hltv's UI is crap as I said, even though hltv is more complex and detailed)
> Total bets: 60
Bets won: 24
^ I gave up there
too meh and random
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I tried that but it said "File 'NUL' already exists. Overwrite ? [y/N]" which bugs me
 
Did you try nul? Like the rest of the page said?
 
same message with nul instead of NUL
 
6:24 PM
Did you Google that error message?
 
@Nooble you may want to read this guy's thread too reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/34q7uj/…
 
Wait, ffmpeg gave you that?
> Alternatively you can write the command as:
>
> ffmpeg -benchmark -i INPUT -f null -
You really need to get better at searching.
 
Why are you using the webm output format? If you don't want output, use the null output format. Then the output file/device doesn't even really matter.
 
^ im trying to do this 2 pass thing at the top of the page
 
6:30 PM
303
Q: What is object slicing?

FrankomaniaSomeone mentioned it in the IRC, but google doesn't have a good answer.

Wow, great question
 
user1804599
heeey :3
 
303 upvotes for that, must be old as shit
ffmpeg2pass-0.log
i see, the first pass creates a log, im assuming the 2nd pass will need it
the encoder is either io bound or not optimized, at 8 threads my CPU is only being used at 15%
@Mysticial fix it pl0x
 
@Borgleader 2008, older than you
 
Ven
do people really write virtual operator=s in c++?
 
Feb 27 at 14:48, by Luc Danton
I do remember turn of the century copy constructors and virtual assignmeent ops.
 
6:38 PM
@Ven Hopefully not
 
i.e. it happened a lot in the Java-style OOP heyday. If you see it happen nowadays, it’s either legacy or someone that didn’t get the memo.
 
user1804599
@Ven lol
 
Ven
@rightfold that was in the linked thread!
nice, there's r/10xprogrammers now.
 
> there doesn't seem to be anything here
 
Ven
Whoops, indeed, it's r/10xprogramming
 
6:49 PM
uhm, sooo... somehow my local commit error'd and when git clean was run much work has been lost, R.I.P. for good/ever or is it recoverable?
 
@Ven eh, Mill architecture, saw a video on that like 3 years ago, haven't heard anything about it since
 
why did you have "much work" in a single commit?
 
Ven
@Borgleader sorry:)?
I was just trolling the 10x part
 
mhm three hours of work, new small sub-project
but most of the code I can recall so let me begin again
 
6:50 PM
commit early and often — you can always rebase it into a work of art later
 
yup
 
three hours without commit lol
 
Ven
if the commit didn't go through, welp
 
Why do I need to learn lessons the hard way.. just life
 
always check your commits, too
 
6:52 PM
"commit didn't go through"?
 
Github GUI
you know I enter a message, commit, alt tab to VS again
never ever think again
did'nt expect errors can occur locally ;o
 
I reckon that's where most errors occur ;)
 
the only times I had errors in the past is with sync
so i'm used to do a clean to remove all the build & unneeded files
after everything works..
 
repcap, boom
 
Might want to invest in gitignore.
 
6:56 PM
@Gizmo You didn't verify that "everything works".
 
> I am probably 10 years younger than you etho but than can never stop me from saying you are awesome.
#logic
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit in the codebase :)
 
@Jefffrey I'm an embryo and I like the beatles
 
user1804599
help
 
#sendhelp
Ok, I want to learn the ways of properly building a C++ project.
 
6:59 PM
@Jefffrey g++ -std=c++14 main.cpp
 
@Jefffrey depends on the OS mostly, but there are ways to make your build cross compatible (e.g. CMake)
 
@Jefffrey python bootstrap.py && ninja
 
People here hate CMake and I trust their opinions.
 

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