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2:00 AM
you sexist pigs
 
@Cicada Yes comment. I don't care.
 
@chmod711telkitty Thumb up ^_^b
 
Someone's agreeing with telkitty?
 
South Korean. They agree with anything in order to not embarass the other.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Agreed.
@Cicada Agreed.
 
2:01 AM
See
 
Also agreeing in Korean sounds like a sigh.
 
@Cicada I wish I could have a serious conversation with you but I don't think that's possible
 
Agreed all.
 
@YayCplusplus Hello new person to me! Who are you?
 
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In-house solutions yaaaaaaaaaay
 
2:02 AM
@CatPlusPlus for what?
 
Fuck you vCloud
 
@Cinch South Korean
 
@YayCplusplus Not "what" are you who are you
 
@Cinch What I am defines who I am. I am a South Korean.
 
He is literally South Korean
What exactly is difficult to understand in that
 
2:04 AM
@YayCplusplus That's no fun.
 
Btw I've never told StackExchange that I'm from there. How did you guys figure out that I am from SK?
 
You are what you eat
Therefore you are fat
 
Also why do Koreans come now that @ParkYoung-Bae is gone
I don't eat your mom
 
@Cicada I have no idea who that is, but he seems like a good south Korean.
 
@YayCplusplus Whatever
 
2:05 AM
@YayCplusplus Yes I would agree
 
(^(oo)^)
 
Anyways I was wondering--How might I revitalize the programming situation within my local student branch of IEEE?
I think I'm poised to become its webmaster next year
 
Rewrite everything in JavaScript
 
@Cicada No can do with Wordpress. No I am not cross-compiling. No I will not stick JS in my ear and call it sex.
 
You know I wasn't serious right
You have to rewrite in a language that compiles to JavaScript
 
2:07 AM
To stick something in one's year and call it sex.
Learning new western expressions.
 
@Cinch rip
 
@YayCplusplus That's not a Western expression
That's a "me" expression
@CatPlusPlus It's okay. The guy who's doing it now says that he doesn't do much
I think I want to try and create a new sub-Reddit, though.
 
oh boy
 
@Borgleader loooool
 
The problem is that the club isn't too invigorated with new people and people here are very passive
I think all the passionate people left for places like Harvard and Stanford and MIT and stuff.
 
2:10 AM
A lot of being in a top program is being focused, rather than stated passion.
Also probably the weather makes you guys lazy
 
@Mikhail Exactly
I got into only one of my target schools, but I think I would've flopped
I couldn't go anyways due to the amount of money it would take
 
I hate everything web-related
This stack is shit from end to end
Why am I doing this I didn't sign for this
 
Everything is shit
 
@Cicada lol web dev
I'll be in the same boat soon man
 
2:17 AM
Web is the new cool.
 
shit.js
 
I like configure scripts that check dependencies after 5 minutes of running through inane checks that don't matter on modern systems
 
Lol.
 
@YayCplusplus I want a job at NCSoft pls
 
2:18 AM
@Cicada Doing market which is webdev :v
 
@Cicada NCSoft is hiring every year. You should go for it.
 
I had a chat with GW2's ex tool lead here on SO
"You're not from the US? Tough luck m8"
rip
 
@Cicada Then Canadian?
 
Don't take it personally, there is almost no legal way for them to get you in the country
 
@Cicada lol
@YayCplusplus What's NCSoft?
 
2:20 AM
@Mikhail I don't know. I had a proposal from a french bank to work in NY too :w
Must not be that difficult
fuck this terrible build system btw
i hate everything
 
I worked for a french bank in London before, but as an external consultant from another company.
 
it's like every single fucking file goes through a different preprocessor/compiler/whatever
 
@Cicada lol
 
and these guys complain that COMPILED LANGUAGES SLOWS THE DEV CYCLE DOWN
 
vomitcc
 
2:21 AM
Had to sit in a dungeon (the ground level of the bank was half buried beneath street level)
 
fucking monkeys
 
@Cicada I know C++ compilation can often be as quiet as ninjas
 
I wish murder were legal sometimes
 
If only we could make things easier for them... Hm...
 
That or abortion after birth
 
2:22 AM
@Cicada I hope you're joking
 
No I'm obviously not get a clue omg
 
@Cinch NCSoft is one of the biggest companies in SK. The comp is especially famous for maintaining powerful IOCP gaming servers here.
 
As in IO Completion Ports?
"GW2 is America's best selling select-based game" - lol
 
@DeanSeo Oh I see.
 
2:24 AM
@Cicada The hell?
lol Guild Wars
League of Legends is probably "America's best-selling game"
 
@DeanSeo ... the game servers are Windows-based? rip
 
I used to think working for banks, google & microsoft are awesome. Then thorough the years I had people close to me working for those companies. And I saw a rather misery life (to my standard).
 
League of Legends is not a game it's a stroller for handicapped teens
 
@chmod711telkitty Right? The more I hear...
@Cicada What, you a Dota guy?
 
@Cicada Yeah a long time ago they spent a lot of money replacing all their servers with Windows-based ones. That was even on the paper.
 
2:26 AM
Dota masterrace
 
all MOBAs suck
 
@Cicada Dota's too... plain for my taste
Something about it makes me feel like it's not special
 
but even I know DotA2 > LoL
 
We know your tastes aren't exactly the best
Your mom also feels you're not special
 
@Cicada Why would you want to know what I taste like ew
 
2:27 AM
lol mobas
 
@DeanSeo Korea has strange technology choices
 
@Cicada ...Or I guess you could "taste" me.
 
Working on a low latency TEXT PROTOCOL right now. Makes sense.
 
@DeanSeo That... makes... what.
 
Most Korean sites only work on IE
 
2:28 AM
The text is encrypted with AES then the binary is base64-encoded
LOW LATENCY they tell you
whatthefuck.lzma
 
Could be ASN.1
 
@Cinch I used to travel business class & had team building in Australia tallest residential building and other 5 star resorts. But I am happier with what I am doing these a few years.
 
All Sanity Neglected
 
@Cicada Agreed.
 
@Rapptz Because the secure payments use activex ! Also Windows XP galore
 
2:29 AM
@chmod711telkitty I really can't tell people's age on the internet.
 
I'm actually 12
 
@Cicada Yep.
 
(and what is this)
 
The way you were talking about flying robots I could've sworn you were like somewhere from 12 to 45
 
@Cinch I am 30 something, those things happened when I was in my 20s
 
2:29 AM
> secure ... activex
 
@Cicada this is obviously you in that context, @Cicada
 
I like how they banned people under 16 from playing video games from 12 AM to 6 AM KST
 
@chmod711telkitty I'm not lol
 
playing vidya during those hours was great
 
@Rapptz I hear the South Korean environment is suffocating
Suicide rates etc etc etc
 
2:30 AM
stereotypes alert
 
Yeah.
 
@chmod711telkitty Yeah I really can't tell
 
@Cicada Quickly! Put on Park Bae Young!
 
Oh we have another guest South Korean
 
But we have pretty girls. What do you guys think?
 
2:31 AM
I guess tone is age-blind
 
Lol.
 
too much plastic surgery
 
@DeanSeo I think your girls have too much makeup
 
"makeup"
 
@Rapptz Where's @ParkYoung-Bae
 
2:31 AM
lel
silly Cinch
 
KKK
 
Also the guys.
 
I'm considering moving back to Korea actually
 
@Cicada Interesting
 
good plan
 
2:32 AM
Are you UK?
@Rapptz I'm curious to know how old you are too
 
@Cicada 'Back' to Korea?
 
@Cinch He's 14
 
ye
 
@Cicada I doubt that.
 
Me too at first
But I think p much everyone here can confirm
 
2:33 AM
@Cicada How about you?
 
23
 
I'm 15 now.
 
Ah.
@Rapptz Oh good.
 
@Cinch Can confirm @Rapptz's.
 
Yeah.
 
2:34 AM
@MarkGarcia That's creepy.
 
Is it
 
@Rapptz Just think about it long, hard, and deep
 
@DeanSeo Spent a semester of studies there. I work in HK now. I'd like to work in Korea.
 
I wanna move back to glorious land of nippon
 
@Cicada If you visit here I will buy you a beer. Then we will talk about programming all night.
 
2:35 AM
You'll come up with the answer long enough
@Rapptz Also if you're Isaku I'll be shocked
 
@DeanSeo I'm going to Seoul 8-10 may.
 
@Cicada Are you serious?
 
Well yes
 
> Isaku (遺作) is a hentai survival horror game released for DOS in 1995.
wat
 
Also going to Philippines next week
 
2:36 AM
Wait a minute.
Did I get it right?
...
 
all that traveling
 
Wait no that can't be correct.
 
I just searched an H game...
 
I miss when I used to travel all the time
 
@Rapptz I kind of doubt you're 15.
 
2:36 AM
do you
 
@Cinch He's the boy in Home Alone.
 
You're quite mature.
 
I like your ageism m8
 
He's compensating for Puppy's lack of maturity
 
@Cicada Dude, I've always wanted to hang out with a person who understands programming and also speaks English. I know many good bars here so let me know if you are down.
 
2:37 AM
@Rapptz I have ageist qualities
 
:)
 
I entered high school waaayyy too early for my age
 
@DeanSeo I'm totally DTF
 
Translator's Note: Cicada is actually a guy
don't want you to get your hopes up buddy
 
Minor detail
 
2:38 AM
@Cicada I'll show you around places where you can F with DTFs
 
@DeanSeo I know these. Itaewon.
 
@Rapptz Part of that 33% female activity on SO also consisting of Rightfold and LRiO, I see
 
I am a Itaewon master.
 
oh god
 
loling pretty good right now
 
2:39 AM
@Rapptz You know what to do.
 
Bye bye clean Google search history.
 
@MarkGarcia Stop with the tentacle tree mating videos.
 
Gotta go back to working.
 
I was gonna do something
I forgot
 
@Rapptz Want to talk about high school?
 
2:41 AM
@Rapptz vidya, making vidya
 
Already played some video games.
 
I actually feel more comfortable knowing that some people here are younger than me
It's somewhat comforting
 
glad to help
except I have a PhD
so I don't want to talk about high school
 
@Rapptz Okay lol 15 and a PhD right.
 
That's p good for a 15 yo
 
2:42 AM
ikr
 
@Rapptz Which field?
 
Biomedical Science
 
Also I've been assuming that you were 30-something all this time btw
So props to ya
 
@Cinch He studied in advance in his mother's womb.
 
He's only half that
 
2:43 AM
I hope I'm being trolled
 
A true believer.
30 is actually the oldest guess someone has had for me.
 
Because if this is so I really need to get my act together
@Rapptz You sound 30.
 
How about memememememe
inb4 8
 
15
 
@Cicada you're too immature to be 8
4
 
2:44 AM
welp
 
8 year olds are that special type of kid immature and not immature
 
oh yeah I was gonna check assembly
on this code snippet thing
thanks Cinch
 
@Rapptz Can I ask where in the country you are?
 
No
 
Okay then.
 
2:45 AM
He lives in Kerguelen Islands
p nice for a 15 yo with a phd
 
I am very interested in meeting you now considering your age and accomplishment.
 
someone's dtf too
 
@Cicada I'm about 50% on my way to flagging you
 
way to go
 
Amateur.
 
2:47 AM
down to flag
 
I'm at 92%
 
you have no idea how many times i got suspended from this room
 
@Rapptz If you're going to be a player in the future I am interested in seeing what other people are doing and what they want
 
and actually me neither so there
 
@Cicada probably 15
 
2:48 AM
@Rapptz You're bored.
 
-O3 too strong
 
@Rapptz You've motivated me
 
ooh
 
@MarkGarcia will you by chance be in boracay next week
 
2:49 AM
@Rapptz Makes me want to get my PhD now
 
@Cicada 0/10 nope :(
 
Apr 10 at 7:57, by Rapptz
I'll never be as bored as momo
 
@Rapptz You're almost there as I see it now!
 
@Rapptz I was having a lot of fun actually
 
@Cinch only takes 4-7 years
@Cicada yeah I bet
 
2:50 AM
@Rapptz I have time.
 
better to get a job
 
CS PhDs here are useless.
 
@Rapptz But you can never undo the physical damange
 
@MarkGarcia hm. i suppose.
@Rapptz says the guy with the phd lol
...What do you plan to do with it anyways?
 
I already have a job
 
2:53 AM
rapptz so financial independence
 
@Rapptz Fuck it it's time for some competition
 
@Cinch He also has a GF IIRC. :D
 
Weird name for a gf
Mine is called rightfold
 
lambdas are pretty good
I learned a trick today
and I'm going to abuse it already
 
Share it!
 
2:58 AM
there's a joke somewhere in there but too lazy
there's a lot of extra stuff there because I was gonna showcase how cool it is but I got too lazy
The trick I learned though isn't that. This is just an application of it.
I learned that [](arg) { /* use 'outer' template here */ } converts to R(*)(arg). That's really what I meant.
 
@Rapptz Ah yes. To-function-ptr conversion is nifty. I want to use it for C API interfacing stuff, but haven't had a project to do so.
 
Well I knew that it converts.
I just thought if you used a template inside the body it wouldn't.
 
3:13 AM
@Rapptz Oh. That's nice.
 
Yeah.
The applications are endless!
So much abuse.
I was looking at the assembly output when using this evil trick
 
oh no someone was a slut and got "shamed"
must victimise the speaker
hop on board and shame the shamer
then share it on facebook
(inb4 then share it in lounge)
 
Oh yeah.
Collision stuff.
I wonder how hard I've procrastinated this.
where
yup
 
rip
 
yesterday, by Rapptz
how do I collision detection and resolution
almost 2 days
rip in pepperoni
 
3:19 AM
/s/collision/conflict/ = lucpm
 
lucpm v0.0.1 coming soon
 
is there a gitbub
 
gittub.com
 
@Rapptz lambda-11, ready to (ab)use
@Rapptz wait you're serious?
 
3:27 AM
TIL they put oil in bowling lanes.
 
@MarkGarcia who knew?
Right then, back to RL
Registed-based programming, the idea intrigues me
 
@Cinch Never been to a bowling alley.
 
Hi guys, I'm trying to develop a non recursive algorithm for a variation of the traveling salesman problem. Anyone curious enough to help? :-)
 
@Mickster37 Interesting
Googling it now
 
do you want me to use my super computing hours on exhaustive searches?
 
3:36 AM
@Cinch sounds good.
@Mikhail HaHa, not quite. I'm trying to figure out how to do those exhaustive searches. But I'm kind of stuck. The recursive solution was (obviously) much easier to discover.
 
@Mickster37 Recursive?
Ah gee I can't program for shit
I gotta start practicing
 
How are your conceptualizing skills? @Cinch
HaHa
 
@Mickster37 Meh.
 
I struggled with naming this problem. Consider the traveling salesman problem, but now there is some penalty for switching directions, for example you are driving a car down a grid and you pay a penalty at every turn or describing the motion of some mechanical arm. Traversing a rectangular grid, in this case moving a snake pattern appears optimal. Should be some way to phrase this in terms of L1 minimization
 
I'll tell you, definitely a fun challenge.
I see what you mean. @Mikhail Can't say I'm familiar with the L1 minimization. My general computer science theory knowledge is limited.
In my problem, I have a rectangular array that stores the distances between two points. I have to find the minimum distance between all the points, but I can start anywhere and I don't need to go back to the starting point. Also, just because I can get from point A to point B does not mean I can get back to point A from point B. Just like the normal problem, I can only go through each point once.
 
4:13 AM
@Mickster37 Oh
Well perhaps you could do an inner computation path
i.e. you can observe each node and determine the best path form a certain node
 
I'm not shooting for efficiency, just lowest cost.
Maximum of 12 points.
 
@Mickster37 "Cost"
define cost
 
Sorry, distance for a path.
That's the term we're using for the project.
 
@Mickster37 Well does it matter how long it takes to calculate?
 
Nope.
It just has to be non recursive.
 
4:15 AM
Then perhaps some sort of nodal weighting system can be okay
 
It shouldn't take too long, because there is only 12 points, which means 12! possible paths.
 
For example, determine the weight and closest neighboring node for each node in isolation
Or perhaps you could parse the node network itself, adding on weight for each additional connected node or something
Then, you connect the highest-probability of being shortest and best paths
Also you could try and implement "edge-collision" or something
 
I see, it's an interesting algorithm.
 
i.e. for spiral-based optimal paths, we should be able to determine where the edge of a spiral can be
@Mickster37 it's also my own dunce solution as some other whiz kid can probably do this better than i can
I suck
 
I appreciate the help!
I'm still thinking brute force how I can figure out all the paths...
 
4:21 AM
@Mickster37 Complex problems require smart solutions
I wonder if this is a NP problem
It is
 
It is considered so because of the time it takes to compuye
*compute
 
@Mickster37 It's some sort of weird calculation entropy property in my understanding
Some problems can be solved in one way easier than others
 
@Cinch For real?
 
It's like a "non-conservative vector-problem" thingie
OTS, I wonder if it's possible to conceptualize problems and solutions as vectors
 
bra-ket notation
 
4:29 AM
@Mikhail no idea
just skimmed over the wikipedia page
 
4:56 AM
Morning.
 

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