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5:00 AM
We have found the cause of the interruption in traffic earlier: an errant keepalived spin-up during an upgrade caused a bad configuration.
The load balancer upgrade has completed and we are now redundant again. We apologize for the interruption.
 
5:30 AM
No editor I have can indent YAML properly :cripes:
 
YAML needs to solve its escape character problem, it is suprisingly tedius to input windows file names needs an `r'don_t_mess'
we should fix YAML
 
yaml is terrible
 
6:26 AM
only rubyists use yaml from what I see
 
python
 
nop
 
hi @Rapptz
@MarkGarcia o damn. wtf
@R.MartinhoFernandes I find that getting drunk helps a lot with logic.
 
6:41 AM
morning
 
7:00 AM
good morning
 
Ah, here I am again
 
how is your PL @Cinch?
 
@khajvah well I was going to start on digital design hw...
But so far, I have a decent stack model I think
We have an 8 or so byte header for each frame
 
Are you reading any book on compiler design?
 
@khajvah Which whose money?
My money just ran out from my spring break job
 
7:09 AM
@Cinch Pirate it
 
@khajvah I have better things to do with my time right now actually
Like waste it
 
user1804599
Good morning.
 
@rightfold Hi wrongfold
 
@Cinch waste it? You are developing a PL. You need a book.
 
@khajvah ...
I'm a college student approaching finals
Additionally I'll probably inherit a position with my student IEEE branch
and then I have an almost guaranteed internship with a web dev company
 
user1804599
7:11 AM
@CatPlusPlus surprise
 
Not to mention that I'll probably be working a job at the same time
My god I hope I don't die next year
 
It is fine
you will survive
 
regretfully
 
i was working 13 hours per day last summer
 
@khajvah Honestly I have to push myself harder
I don't try as hard as I should
 
7:13 AM
without any day offs
I was like a slave really
 
@khajvah I don't know why anybody would do that
 
@Cinch I had to pay my tuition
 
Unless it's a gentle environent
 
It wasn't
 
@khajvah Well at least I've been groomed for a scholarship my entire life
I guess that paid off
 
7:14 AM
yeah, you can do something more important. I am a CS student, but I was working as a cook.
somebody, give me $50, I want to get this book
 
user1804599
I wish I were a frog.
 
was*
 
@khajvah Oh you don't live in America too...
How are scholarship opportunities in Armenia(?)
 
@Cinch well, no. and no
 
user1804599
@khajvah no
 
7:18 AM
Ah I see
that's unfortunate.
 
the government keeps fucking us in the ass.
 
@khajvah bah..
 
Some people like that
 
There is an opportunity if you are studying in top 10 universities
 
@khajvah I see
Actually I went to the job fair and I was fortunate to find a company that liked me and that I really could connect with
Plus being "special" probably helped
(Not when compared to Rapptz, but FWIW I think that's why I got the initial job)
 
Ven
7:22 AM
@sehe hah at that "mutable" :). Also good, but a little bit less "clean" the the previous one, if I need to nitpick
@khajvah "if I were a boy..."
 
user1804599
Frogs are amazing.
 
@rightfold What did the woman say to her frog husband?
"I better get ribbit you"
 
What about frog princesses?
 
user1804599
@Cinch Nothing. Saying things to frogs would be incredibly stupid.
 
Also this is our digital design book
I mostly don't read it because of our wonderful Chinese plofessa
 
7:28 AM
@Cinch You racist
 
@khajvah Not only does he have a terrible accent, but he also is lacking on his own teaching
It seems like he's... half-assing it, to tell you the truth.
@khajvah Also surprisingly Hawaii people are kind of racist, but we're all so oblivious to serious racism that we just forget about it
Except maybe white people. They don't have a great reputation with the "loco" locals
 
@Cinch You can't possibly be racist
 
user1804599
I like Xcode's colour scheme.
 
user1804599
I should find a Vim port of it.
 
@rightfold I like sublime's
 
user1804599
7:31 AM
OK.
 
@khajvah It's literally based only on skin color. A bo'hunk from one of the outer islands won't care if you're from Belgium or Baltimore, you're just "white"
I find it sad but Hawaii has its upsides and downsides
 
racism is dumb as fuck
 
Like the worst/2nd worst traffic in the US
 
hth
 
@Cinch Your whole economy is based on tourism, you shouldn't be racist
 
7:32 AM
@khajvah Hawaii is actually slightly crude in terms of culture
But it's a rich crudeness
It's rich because it's so organic and laidback and we all just stop caring
Which is great... for living. Not for ambition
The majority of the young people are pacified into a local lifestyle, probably doomed never to really leave the island
 
@Cinch On the bright side, you can turn off your brain and live happily whole your life
 
@khajvah Of course. If I didn't have the potential to do something, I'd do that too.
 
90% of ambitions are never reached any ways
 
Ven
lol 90%.
 
But I feel that I can offer people much more than just another human life
 
7:34 AM
@Cinch Like what?
 
When I was kid, I thought I would be a millionaire by the time I am 25
but I am nowhere near that.
 
@wilx Something more. I'm in a good place right now compared to a lot of people and I'm not bogged down by personal problems
I have the financial means to begin doing stuff and to jump up into an industry and try to thrive
I have the youth to be attractive to employers and entrepreneurs and can fit the profile of the young innovator
I'm not in a war-torn country, I live in a great area of opportunity, and despite my expectations, I think I'm in a good place
I mean, when the majority of the world needs to deal with heavier problems, why not do something to make the world better if you can do it with much greater ease than others?
 
please no optimism in this room
don't ruin my day thanks
 
@Cicada You're right, I'm talking too much about myself
What do you guys want to do?
 
Your ego is showing
 
7:38 AM
@Rapptz I know.
 
99% of entrepreneurs fail
 
@Cinch We want to improve this world one lucpm at a time
 
@Cicada cannot allocate reference to undefined symbol
 
I will study math and do phd in math or CS if I get a good masters program
at least I will like what I am doing
 
@khajvah Yeah, but for what?
 
7:40 AM
17 secs ago, by khajvah
at least I will like what I am doing
 
@wilx Call Noah and god
 
@wilx So does ISIS
 
@khajvah There is no God.
 
You heretic. Die, burn in hell
 
7:41 AM
@khajvah lol
But if I may continue, why do anything, really?
Why even go to college and sink your time into a piece of paper?
inb4 education and jobs
 
education actually
learning is nice
 
@wilx welcome
 
Yes... when you're not wasting $200k on school itself and remain in debt.
 
@Cinch Do you study in Harvard?
 
200k for school? That's a lot. Med-school?
 
7:43 AM
@khajvah No, why?
@Mysticial No, UCLA
It would've been closer to $250k
 
200k for UCLA? What degree?
That's insane.
That's more than private schools.
 
@Mysticial Computer Science I believe
I had 0 aid.
 
I spent 27.5 euros for my whole 5 years of studies~
 
I went to the University of Hawaii at Manoa instead
 
@Mysticial Out of state students pay a lot more than in-state.
 
7:44 AM
Pardon my European superiority
 
I went to a private school with no aid and it was barely 150k.
 
@Cicada I have a scholarship that pays for almost all of my tuition so I'm in the same situation
 
Less if you include the scholarship.
 
@Mysticial lol, barely.
 
@Cinch You're still inferior because not European
 
7:45 AM
> barely 150k
what are you smoking with this "barely"
 
@Mysticial I would have to work 8 years for that and not spend a dime on anything else.
 
@Cicada That's not a reason. That's like saying my school is better because it's Hawaiian.
 
It's not better because it's not in Europe
What do you not understand
 
user1804599
I wish I were a cow.
 
You can be one
 
7:46 AM
@rightfold You can get close. You can be an ox.
 
@Cicada I don't. I don't hear of major innovations coming from Europe all the time anyways
 
ITT: non-americans comparing tuitions
 
Do you guys know what an American makes a year?
 
What was ITT again?
 
@Cinch Oh yeah? Well who invented the Web? That's right, a European.
 
7:46 AM
@wilx In this thread
 
Who invented milk? Europeans again
 
Cinch stop shitposting
 
@wilx ITT people don't know what ITT means
 
I'll kick you.
 
user1804599
what is tuition
 
7:47 AM
@Rapptz I don't understand this concept of "shitpost"
 
Louis Tuitton
 
@Cinch Oh. Weird.
 
@Cicada Let's start from "who invented USA".
 
@Cicada I'm not going to get into this argument
 
@Griwes The retarded Irish farmers dying of potato malnutrition, they got on a boat to die far from the coast and founded American. It is known. /cc @thecoshman
 
7:48 AM
Holy shit, he's not lying:
 
Half the country would probably reject me on the grounds that I'm from Hawaii and not white.
 
Since when did public schools get so fucking expensive.
 
@Mysticial Since college debt has been allowed to balloon
 
Not being white is OK
 
@Mysticial it's just UCLA
 
7:48 AM
This world still needs maids and manual labour workers after all
 
20 mins ago, by khajvah
@Cinch You racist
 
I'm not being racist this is the truth
 
Hee hee :)
 
Open your chink eyes
~~~~
 
@Cicada Lol funny some people have pronounced this username as Chink
 
7:49 AM
@Rapptz I got rejected by UCLA.
 
user1804599
Can you have non-type template parameters of reference to struct type?
 
@Mysticial Casual.
 
user1804599
Like template<some_struct const& T>.
 
@Mysticial I got rejected by almost all my schools except UCLA, UC SD, and UCI
 
user1804599
IIRC you cannot.
 
7:50 AM
@rightfold I don't think so.
Unless static pointer to it maybe
 
@rightfold If the symbol referenced has external linkage only maybe?
 
user1804599
Ah, you can.
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
@Cinch I got rejected by almost all public and high-end private schools.
 
If I only worked harder I'd probably be at UCLA or UCSD on half or full scholarship
 
7:51 AM
@Mysticial That's why you work for a low-tier company!
 
With the exception of being wait-listed at Caltech. It was a good thing they eventually rejected me.
 
@Mysticial Why do you say that?
 
@Cicada at least they didn't just give up, Frenchie
 
@Cinch I would've died.
 
@Mysticial Perhaps
 
7:51 AM
@Mysticial Died?
 
@thecoshman I can't hear you over my mainlander Supremacy
 
Same with Stanford. Getting rejected there was a blessing in disguise.
 
I was gonna go to UCLA. And then I was held back because the interest rate on the gov't debt was 6%
 
disguys*
 
This would be bad enough, but every 30th or 40th pokéball has TWO of them inside.
2
 
7:52 AM
Had I went to anywhere that was more difficult than Northwestern I wouldn't have had the time to do my extracurricular bullshit that got me into Google and now into financial.
 
Well, US universities tuitions are insane. John Oliver has a nice rant about it in his show.
 
@Mysticial Interesting. Have fun with your NBA shenanigans
US Universities are not fun
 
user1804599
oh tuitions is school tax
 
wat
 
literally what
 
7:53 AM
@Cicada what's that? I'm too busy enjoying my... erm... fuck... Ireland has erm... lower taxes maybe?
 
user1804599
Universities are never fun.
 
I think they're a broken system right now because there is literally no alternative in the public mind. Vocational is non-existent in some systems.
 
@Cinch It's great! Golden State Warriors made a 20 point come back and won today.
 
user1804599
It's like that SpongeBob episode where they have to pay to be allowed to work.
 
@Feeds Haha alt-text Unicode.
 
7:54 AM
When was the last time you even saw a mention of a vocational school in popular media? That's how you can somewhat gauge things.
 
What kind of dumb ass metric is that?
 
What surprised me in the rant was how much money the universities pay for PR.
 
@Rapptz I'm sorry.
I expected a different response.
 
How? It was a dumb comparison.
 
user1804599
poop
 
@Rapptz Ugh. Time to start ranting about the importance of media.
 
user1804599
Maybe I'll make an RSS reader.
 
Don't even bother.
You're not getting the point.
 
This time of the day in Lounge has become very painful
 
@Rapptz What's your point?
 
7:56 AM
Your logic is unsound. When was the last time you saw a mention of a community college or a high school in the popular media?
The popular media advertising for something is irrelevant.
 
@Rapptz High school is one of the most active genres in teen drama
 
@Cicada Any time here is painful. But it is the pain you love, is it not? Much like spanking during sex. Am I right?
 
College is literally "party time" in entertainment
 
You're not talking about media, you're talking about popular culture and tropes.
 
I don't even know of an established American trope for a vocational school, which can tell us how much time we actually think about vocational.
 
7:57 AM
@wilx I'm too old for this Cinch
 
@Rapptz Popular culture and tropes might possibly be the biggest influence on minds of youth sans personal trauma, environment, and family.
 
Yeah I'm sure that was deep and mind blowing when I was 10.
 
While you can't do much about families and socioeconomic statuses, you can affect society by changing what it is exposed to on a daily basis.
 
@Rapptz That was 5 years ago though
 
It's the classic lever for pushing for policy
 
7:58 AM
@Cicada s/years/hours/
 
@MarkGarcia lol don't mock ppl lol
 
you don't get it
 
I don't need defending.
 
we were making fun of you 5 hours ago
 
And you missed the joke
 

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