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3:01 AM
A female minor is broadcasting in Allentown, Pennsylvania. She's doing homework and 4 people are watching her. I don't think this is a good idea.
 
@ElimGarak Uh huh.
 
She's 12-13 tops.
 
Who wants me to do homework and livestream it?
 
@Nooble not I. Sorry. :\
 
Jagged is probably afraid that she'll fall in love with you.
 
3:03 AM
@ElimGarak Yeah I wouldn't blame her.
Koalas are naturally sexy beasts.
 
facepalm
 
Well yeah, jagged is only like 14, so that makes it okay, right? :P
 
@ElimGarak it appears I'm in good company :)
 
@ElimGarak I'm 23.
 
@jaggedSpire The best way to get an answer on the internet is to post a wrong one. <3 Also, we're actually the same age.
 
3:05 AM
@ElimGarak indeed.
 
@jaggedSpire Years younger than me?
 
@Nooble I don't see any progress on Icicle. What's up with that? :P
 
@ElimGarak Tests.
And not the kinds I don't write.
 
@Nooble you got me, I'm to be born in eight years.
 
I have a test on Global History, German, and Health tomorrow.
 
3:06 AM
I wonder who's going to die first, me or jagged. With the assumption of natural causes. And not like, buses.
 
And maybe Architecture, but I wasn't paying attention.
 
@ElimGarak I'm going to bet me. Because then either I'll be alive longer, or I'll be right.
 
@ElimGarak Well, if you got hit by a bus going at a decent speed, naturally you would die.
 
someone should invent carbonated drinks that do not lose their fizz after fucking 1 hour
 
@jaggedSpire If you bet on him you can cash out from the estate.
 
3:09 AM
@jaggedSpire Sweet!
What'll you dedicate your life to?
 
@Nooble satan?
@Nooble hookers and blackjack?
 
@Nooble the introduction of modules into C++
 
@orlp Limit the available volume in which to achieve equilibrium.
 
@jaggedSpire :O
 
Could be an internal mechanism which follows elastically the consumption of the drink.
 
3:10 AM
I may never see it happen, but I can speed the process if I try. :)
 
@ElimGarak is that legalese for "close the bottle"?
 
Nah, the more you drink, the more volume is available. The valve would have to be somewhere below, so that there is no complex mechanism with the elastic seal.
 
this basil plant is so hilariously dead.
 
@jaggedSpire I remember when I had a (pet?) plant.
 
But that would make bottles non-expendable. Or a custom one which is precisely for that usage.
 
3:12 AM
It was a lima bean thing I stuck in a piece of cotton and watered everyday.
Thing died because heat.
 
@ElimGarak I have a design that could work
a bottle
and inside of the bottle is a plastic bag that holds the drink
 
I remember my pet bonsai. I don't keep expensive plants anymore.
 
and when you take some drink out, you can 'pull up' the bag closer to the valve
 
Yup, something like that could work. I wouldn't be surprised stuff already exists, tho.
 
or you could go to the store, get a chunk of dry ice, and drop it in your drink.
 
3:13 AM
@jaggedSpire Yeah that lima bean was pretty expensive.
Too much responsibility.
 
@jaggedSpire :effort:
 
@ElimGarak with the reward of several hunks of dry ice, because you don't have to get just one and it's a pretty fun thing to get.
you can use it to make carbonated ice cream
and also fog
 
Jagged is so much more fun than Telkitty.
 
@ElimGarak But voice quality!
Jagged needs a better mic.
 
@Nooble what Jagged needs is a better kitchen table and some more knives
@ElimGarak I'm glad you have a high opinion of me
I only have two that measure more than 6"
3
and three steak knives, because the fourth got caught in the garbage disposal that one time
 
3:18 AM
@jaggedSpire Nice.
 
Mine is only 2". Off the ground.
Give me that star back.
 
@Nooble sneaky edit
 
Tricky.
 
@jaggedSpire Protip: Avoid inches in the Lounge <3
ahahah :D
@Nooble ahahah, damn editing.
 
3:19 AM
@ElimGarak but it gets me more stars than I see in a week
 
Would mentioning centimeters be fine?
 
@ThePhD If you're measuring in centimeters, it implies something.
 
When stating length measurements, always qualify what is being measured. :D
Although, some guys talk about "putting bitches to the sword", so knives are also kinda not apt.
 
@ElimGarak but it gets me more stars than I see in a week
 
Well, you're kinda always passive. :D Nooble's culinary mistakes only get a rise out of you. :D
 
3:21 AM
Hello folks. Does anyone know if I can get my account unbanned if I answer questions on SO?
 
@jaggedSpire In a hole weak?
 
@Nooble if you know what I mean
 
@TylerLangan No, fix your bad questions.
 
@ThePhD
 
@TylerLangan Here
 
3:21 AM
@ThePhD They were deleted before I could improve them
 
Guess you're fucked.
 
Time to pick up a career in botany.
 
@ElimGarak so you're saying I should push longer and harder?
 
Exactly... I need to ask data science questions and SO is the only resource available to me
 
@TylerLangan what about google?
 
3:23 AM
Google is expensive. Oh, wait... It's not.
 
They're questions specific to my assignments
 
Soo I just discovered AMD is doing bad
 
google uses data science
you need people like me ;)
to answer your questions without SO
 
@VermillionAzure :(
 
Yeah, no.
 
3:24 AM
@TylerLangan make them not specific to your assignments
see MCVEs
 
And nobody wants to solve your assignments. The best way to get an answer on the internet is to allow someone to stroke his ego by answering you.
 
@TylerLangan TBH the best solution is probably to start another account and to really understand how not to fuck it up again. Not good but then you probably want to be able to ask questions
 
Unless the community you're in likes you (Lounge regs)
 
@VermillionAzure They've got my IP?
Plus I have a lot of rep on other communities
kind of want to build a resume here
 
@TylerLangan Most people are not assigned static IPs.
 
3:25 AM
@TylerLangan No, I have a question banned account
 
Lol.
 
@VermillionAzure Not too loud :P
 
Did you ever fix your shitty questions, Cinch?
 
Yeah, your resume is going to suck hard.
 
@TylerLangan EVERYONE HERE KNOWS
@ThePhD If you want to see them...
 
3:25 AM
@TylerLangan I have your IP
I have written a GUI in Visual Basic to track it
 
@Cinch Let's pull you out of the gutter, buddy.
 
@VermillionAzure @ThePhD If you want to see my questions, try.
 
@VermillionAzure wait you have a question banned account? :P
 
@jaggedSpire You sound surprised :P
 
@Cinch Cinch!
 
3:26 AM
To be honest I tried really hard to lift the ban
@Nooble Yes?
 
It's nice to see you in Cinch form.
 
@Nooble Whatever I deleted WAAAY too many questions for that account
 
@Cinch There's only one question with -4.
 
@TylerLangan you could also try to provide good, well researched answers that the community likes
 
@ThePhD There's about 10-15 deleted questions and occurances of deletions that I can't reverse
 
3:28 AM
Oh.
Pfff.
Just delete the account then.
 
C'est la vie.
@ThePhD But then Nooble would be sad.
 
Doesn't matter, it's not like you're ever gonna get questioned un-banned with that kind of track record.
 
@ThePhD But then I would be very sad.
 
@ThePhD I want the questions to stay as well
The ones that I do have are okay.
 
Well Lounge, should I make a mug cake? Or should I make some sort of hot beverage?
 
3:30 AM
Mmm. Hot 'n' steamy... I like that. In a mug. And not anywhere on me. Anti-star defense activated.
2
 
this being the mug cake
 
Oh, damn, two hot Mexican girls. Brb, flight to Mexico.
 
@ThePhD BLAMM'D!
 
@VermillionAzure I already cleaned it up! So there.
5 days to my Linear Algebra midterm.
I think I got this on lockdown.
 
@ThePhD OOOH I'm taking Linear Algebra as well
I just got my midterm back: 100% because he only graded 6/8 of them = 100%
 
3:32 AM
No you're not, you liar.
 
Man I should learn myself some Linear Algebra.
 
@ThePhD FREAKING REDUCED ROW ECHELON FORM!!!
@Nooble I can give you the simple version!
 
@VermillionAzure Ok!
 
@Nooble Okay, so we have a vector, okay?
 
oh man indian food blog
 
3:33 AM
@VermillionAzure Mhmm.
 
   - Systems of Linear Equations
   - Matrix forms (Augmented / Coefficient)
   - Row-reduced Echelon Form
   - Kernel / Image - Span
   - Matrix multiplication
   - Linear Transformations - Shear, Rotation, Scale, Reflection, (Orthographic) Projection
   - Linear Dependence/ Independence
 
You know vectors from graphics and stuff, right? 3D, 2D = 3x1, 2x1 vectors
 
That's everything I have to know.
 
36 mins ago, by Elim Garak
it is this data-intensive, responsive, beautiful thing... And people use it for such shit.
 
@VermillionAzure Yeah.
 
3:33 AM
@Nooble But what really IS a vector?
 
@VermillionAzure Fuck if I know.
 
So, let's redefine vectors in a more general way instead of coordinates:
 
@LucDanton Naw, not on Periscope anymore. The second penis drove me away.
 
Vectors are mathematical objects of scalars among dimensions
 
They should have some sort of flagging system for that.
 
3:34 AM
Thing about it this way: a number is a one-dimensional quantity. It's along one dimension
 
mug cake it is
 
I'm shaky on Linear (in)dependence right now, and I still have to git gud at images, kernels, and linear combination spans 'n' shit.
OH, RIGHT, SUBSPACES
 
A 2D vector has 2 dimensions to vary on: x and y.
 
Those are important too.
@jaggedSpire Make a big one so you can eat it and then regret eating all of that cake.
 
A 3D vector has 3 dimensions to vary on: (x, y, z)
 
3:35 AM
@ElimGarak my bad
 
@Nooble But here's the thing: you can turn many things into "dimensions"
something like "color" can also be a vector.
 
@VermillionAzure Right.
 
@ThePhD but if I make a small one, I enjoy it, and then don't feel guilty
 
Hence RGBA, or red, green, blue, alpha vectors
 
@jaggedSpire Exactly, guilt is part of the flavor.
 
3:36 AM
I can use the dimensions to represent the amount of prevalance of a "feature" for something like genes: like if one sample of cells exhibit gene A more than gene B
 
@ThePhD I thought that was apathy, and only with ramen?
 
This is the core of what a vector is: a mixed "package" of quantities that are attached to dimensions
 
It makes every moment that much more decadently delicious, that much more soul-grippingly sumptuous... Mmmm.
 
Alright, so we should move into systems of linear equations
So linear equations come up a lot in math: they have certain mathematical properties, and are not always lines
 
@VermillionAzure I see.
 
3:37 AM
@ThePhD I prefer flavor sensations
 
Two of them are superposition and scalar multiplication: we can add two lines together, and they're going to be the sum of its individual dimensions, like (x1 + x2, y1 + y2)
 
@jaggedSpire Sooooooul.
 
and scalars, where we scale the entire thing by a real number factor, like 1 or 0.1
But they also come up a lot in math
And engineering:
 
okay, is anyone else's client attempting to send messages twice and timing out on the second try?
 
Whenever we have a complex set of related equations, meaning we have multiple variables to find (e.g. 5 equations and 5 unknown variables)
 
3:38 AM
So, I have cake here. Anybody wants some?
 
It's kind of annoying to keep having to do this by hand with algebra
 
@ElimGarak making my own, with greek yogurt frosting topped with cinnamon and ginger. :3
 
@ElimGarak Nah, I'm okay.
 
We are first introduced to linear algebra as an efficient manner of solving linear equations
 
@ThePhD excellent edit
 
3:39 AM
So, say we have an equation (Ax + By = C)
Notice we have two unknowns: x and y
And three scalar coefficients: A, B, C
Let's write a vector of just the coefficients:
 
@jaggedSpire Innocent whistling rises.
 
(A, B, C)
@Nooble Simple, right?
 
@ElimGarak wait what kind of cake?
 
@VermillionAzure Sorta.
 
@Nooble Okay, so let's pretend we have two equations with the two variables x and y we need to solve for
 
3:40 AM
@jaggedSpire Tiramisu. It's really delicious and moist.
 
x = 3; 2x + y = 3
 
Also, Nutella cake.
 
Obviously we can solve this very easily, but let's use this as an example:
Let's rewrite each vector form: (1 0 3) and (2 1 3)
Do you get it?
 
I think I'm going to vomit if I have to listen to this Bach song again.
 
@VermillionAzure Yes, this example anyway.
 
3:41 AM
ITT Cinch inventing linear systems
 
But now, let's write them in matrix form: put each equation on top of each other to get a matrix:

(1 0 3)
(2 1 3)
 
@ElimGarak oooh
 
Let's now introduce ourselves to the Gauss-Jordan elimination method for finding a solution to the system:
 
@GregorMcGregor I plonked him again when he started.
 
So here, we have x = 3 and 2x + y = 3
 
The objective of G-J elim is to get each equation into the form x = WHATEVER, y = WHATEVER, z = WHATEVER etc.
So our matrix should end up like this:

(1 0 C)
(0 1 D)
 
@jaggedSpire But I want to finish before 1 AM in the morning.
 
@ThePhD being responsible are we?
I assume it's due tomorrow?
 
You can two three things: 1) Multiply an entire row by a number, 2) Subtract one row's quantity by another's, and 3) Switch two rows
 
It's not, it's due way later.
But I have midterms this week and next.
 
3:43 AM
If you get into the magical form like the above, you suddenly have your solution
 
I'd like to not be studying and then go "HOLY SHIT THIS COMPOSITION PAPER."
And then fuck up my Studian Rhythm for it.
 
@ThePhD ah. what do you have to do for the paper?
 
@Nooble So this is the first major topic: the (1 0; 0 1) form i just gave is called the Reduced Row Echelon Form (RREF)
 
Describe the ~~Sonic Properties~~ of a musical piece.
It's driving me mad.
 
@VermillionAzure Wha. Oh I see.
 
3:45 AM
Basically, big terms for saying, line up the 1s diagonally and make everything else 0s except for the last column
@Nooble This extends to matrixes and numbers of equations of any size:
So a 100x100 matrix still has the same properties; so our method scales as well
Next topic: matrices and their properties:
 
My hand doesn't scale to 100 x 100.
 
@ThePhD and you chose Bach?
 
@jaggedSpire All the other music sounded like dogpoo.
 
@ThePhD :(
 
At least Bach has some life in his work.
 
3:46 AM
Matrices are basically 2D arrays of varying sizes.
3
 
Is it a composition or a recording?
 
starred for deep insight
 
So matrices have special properties
e.g. you can find an "inverse" so that it equals the "identity matrix" (1s on the diagonal with 0s everywhere else)
@GregorMcGregor Is that sarcasm?
So matrix A * matrix B = matrix "1" (identity) matrix
 
Bach's been around long enough people have probably done some weird shit to his pieces. You might try to find a recording of one of those and listen to that for differences/what doesn't work. It would be a change of pace and might offer a slightly different perspective.
 
@Nooble The most important part of linear algebra (so far) is probably learning to navigate dimensions using vectors and matrices as well as systems of dimensions
For example, there's a way to establish primitive vectors to describe a dimensional space, and if you can prove that a certain "dimensional space" of combinations of vectors are a "vector space," all of our learnings about solving systems and manipulating vectors also apply.
Reflection, translation, scaling, superpositon/linear addition, subspaces, spans, etc.
Linear algebra's important as a way to work with graphics as well as statistics and analysis--for example, a clustering method called Non-Negative Matrix Factorization can be used and it comes from linear algebra--it requires forming data into the form of a matrix with no negative entries.
 
3:52 AM
I wonder what this would taste like with a bit of heat?
 
@Nooble If you haven't noticed yet, graphics depends heavily on matrices and linear algebra--most of the calculations done by the GPU and the shaders written in OpenGL perform operations on floating-point matrices of 4x4 or so on and apply linear algebra operations like the dot and cross product:
 
@VermillionAzure Yes, I've definitely noticed :P
 
@Nooble Let's give you a cool idea: the dot product of vectors determines how much one vector "shadows" another vector among a vector's axis:
@Nooble The cross product gives an orthogonal vector (either in or out) given two vectors to describe the plane of a surface. This is now they compute the "surface-ray-reflection" vectors for light and such
 
@VermillionAzure These are normals, right?
@VermillionAzure What do you mean by shadow?
 
@Nooble Yes. Normal vectors.
@Nooble As in, one vector projected onto another as if it were a "coordinate" system or you shine a light on it perpendicular to a vector
 
3:56 AM
@VermillionAzure Ah.
 
It's funny because it's also related to the sin() and cos() functions
@Nooble So if I had (1 1) and (1 0) vectors, the dot product would be (1 0), which is how much one vector projects onto the x-axis or how much the x-axis projects onto the axis of (1,1)
@Nooble The cross-product would actually give a vector of entirely z direction because it's orthogonal to the entire xy-plane
 
@VermillionAzure Mhmm.
 
@Nooble The fun part about this is that these require no trig but turn out to be related to trig, hence why we can do angle magic with simple number multiplication and sums
the dot product is equal to *magnitude of A * magnitude of B)*cos (theta), where theta = angle between the two vectors
The cross product is the same thing, except with sin(theta)
 
I fucked up my computer graphics assignment :(
 
That's what you get for using Fixed Function GarbageL.
 
3:59 AM
nah, we're past that
doing shaders now
 
@orlp You're using fixed function?!
Oh.
Okay good.
 
for the first two excercises, yes
we had to implement a couple of things, and the last part of the problem was to implement a moving camera that you can rotate
 
orlp failing at same stuff as John Carmack the other day, give him a break :P
 
I could rotate around Z just fine for left-right rotation
but I totally flustered looking up/down =/
because then you need to rotate in both X and Y axes? axis? axises?
it wasn't until I got home that I realized you could simply keep two variables: ori_h and ori_v to store the orientation of the camera in degrees
and then get the orientation vector by rotating the unit vector first around X by ori_v, then around Z by ori_h
 
@orlp Maybe try quaternions instead?
 
4:02 AM
@VermillionAzure overkill
 
Yaw, Pitch, Roll.
 
no need to handle roll
 
@orlp Not considering rotations of camera?
 
@VermillionAzure we didn't need to rotate the camera
think FPS camera
 
@orlp Meh.
Sighhh I should get started on my Computer Architecture HW
@Nooble Welp looks like I lost your attention
 
4:05 AM
@VermillionAzure What no.
I'm still here.
Just juggling things, have to finish German homework and study about someone's hierarchy of needs.
 
@Nooble Mr. Maslow, is that you?
 
@VermillionAzure Ah yes, Maslow.
 
The next teacher I have who posts anything in .doc will have someone wanting him/her dead.
 
@Nooble y
 
@Nooble What about .docx?
 
@VermillionAzure Because I can't be bothered to download anything that opens .doc and I end having to convert it to .pdf.
@Mysticial :P
 
Just...
open it with google doc...?
 
4:26 AM
@ThePhD Whoa I can do that?
Man I really suck at this whole computer-stuff.
 
.-.
 
(~^_^)~
 
"It sounds so nice" - Term Paper, 2015.
 
@ThePhD lol wat
 
I finished my study guide on this exam.
Wonderful.
 
4:33 AM
@Nooble Nice
 
I could sleep right now.
 
user406009
You should.
 
user406009
Sleep is glorious.
 
Yes but I should study for German.
 
@Nooble 9-ja?
 
user406009
4:37 AM
Sleep is more useful than extra studying as far as exams go.
 
@VermillionAzure Lol.
 
@Lalaland TBH both are very important
 
user406009
Because you are really stupid when you are exhausted.
 
@Lalaland Until you start getting AMPED AND WANT TO RIP THE ENTIRE WORLD WITH PUSHUPS SWOLE BROTHA!
 
The way I see it, if I sleep now I'll get 5:30 of sleep.
 
4:39 AM
@Nooble Sleep.
 
But German unit final.
 
@Nooble Sleep. The 5 hour mark is where your focus is clearly affected.
 
user406009
Screw this. Screw Haskell. I am not going to be able to find all the stack overflow exceptions tonight.
 
@Lalaland Wait what are you doing?
 
@VermillionAzure Alright then.
Good night everyone :)
 
user406009
4:42 AM
Despite what Bartek claims, laziness really sucks.
 
/cc @BartekBanachewicz
 
@Nooble Good night man
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure Parser table generator.
 
@Lalaland Uhhhh what?
 
@VermillionAzure nitenite
 
4:43 AM
And why is lazy good
 
user406009
It's a Haskell program for generating LL(1) tables.
 
@Nooble nitenite NickNick
 
user406009
In computer science, an LL parser is a top-down parser for a subset of context-free languages. It parses the input from Left to right, performing Leftmost derivation of the sentence. An LL parser is called an LL(k) parser if it uses k tokens of lookahead when parsing a sentence. If such a parser exists for a certain grammar and it can parse sentences of this grammar without backtracking then it is called an LL(k) grammar. LL(k) grammars can generate more languages the higher the number k of lookahead tokens. A corollary of this is that not all context-free languages can be recognized by an LL(k...
 
@Lalaland oh
Yeah I'm not a CS major and I'm CompE at a 3rd/4th tier engineering college
 
user406009
@VermillionAzure Laziness is "good" because it allows you to have more guarantees about your code.
 
user406009
4:44 AM
In particular, you can move code around easily without changing runtime behavior.
 
@Lalaland I don't understand WTH this means
 
user406009
It's also "good" because it allows you to express streaming operations nicely.
 
Yeah I still don't understand
I probably won't until I try Haskell for real
 
user406009
It's bad because it leads to stack overflow exceptions everywhere.
 
@Lalaland Why?
Evaluation and memory problems?
 
user406009
4:46 AM
Yeah. Things don't get evaluated immediately.
 
user406009
So there is a risk of having lots of intermediate results.
 
@Lalaland I don't understand exactly what this means anyways
 
user406009
neilmitchell.blogspot.com/2015/09/three-space-leaks.html does a good job providing practical examples.
 
user406009
(Although I doubt it would make any sense to someone who doesn't already know Haskell)
 
@Lalaland Oh I see
Unevaluated expressions = more memory space because not automatically optimized in Haskell to final value
 
4:51 AM
@VermillionAzure of course not
I hate sarcasm so much
 
@GregorMcGregor Oh.
I dunno I get a lot of shit because I say stupid stuff here which I wholely take responsbility for
 
Oh, I see. Well this is not the kind of shit you'd get from me. Rest assured that all of my comments are 100% genuine.
 
> I don't expect readers to understand the purpose of the code
I didn't notice 'the purpose' and thought it was extremely funny
That snippet is really horrible
 
I don't understand the craze about Haskell though
 
You don't understand a lot of things, though.
'sup cat. Nice to see you. Cinch has been clogging up the transcript.
@GregorMcGregor <3
 
4:58 AM
Haskell will magically remove all your bugs as soon as you line up the types and forget what the 3-line punctuation vomit you just wrote does
 
@ElimGarak Can I sue for arson?
 
I don't even...
 

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