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8:00 PM
yes
 
It just needs some getting used to
 
sbi
We've had enough time to get used to flagging.
 
My old input library has F310 mapping, I'll try to include it soonish
I'm drained for today
 
so many weapons lol
it looks like a legit game to me, I can def see this being fun
I like the jumping physics and the speed you can reach while bunny hopping
 
Win 10 is pretty dumb, does not show my to most used programs in the most used list
 
8:05 PM
then it all stops because I aim too slowly with the keyboard and I can't keep the momentum :(
 
@JohanLarsson wish it would just let me pin the programs I want
 
do you take bug reports on steam or somewhere else?
 
Steam forum or just shout at me
 
@melak47 yeah, the thing to the right is pretty useless. I want the recent flyout.
 
@AlexM. right here apparently. Lounge<TechSupport> :D
 
8:08 PM
lol the game group already has 12 people in it
 
sbi
Let's all just shout at the cat. Or steam him.
 
Finding the goddamn forum is non-trivial
 
Xeo
Community Hub -> Discussions! :P
 
I'm genuinely impressed by the number of weapons you added to the game
I expected to see one or two but half an hour in and I still find new ones
 
There's about 30ish total
 
8:16 PM
bots can't use the gravity gun yet right?
I haven't seen them doing anything
they're not switching to sth else either
 
The AI is fairly rudimentary
It just gets a random weapon and then randomly moves and pulls the trigger
 
I liked how you made the player explode once it went outside the game area
 
Gravity gun doesn't work because they don't hold the trigger, just press it few times a frame
 
when I saw myself flying upwards without stopping I was ready to say "this gotta be a bug and I'll fly forever"
but nope
 
It's an artefact of bunnies dropping packages with their weapons on death, and those being explosive
So it's not so much the player as their weapons that explode when going off map
 
8:18 PM
I see
 
creates a new button bar button with tons of space and it shoves itself inside a goddamn harry potter bag WTF
 
pls consider mouse aiming, I'd love to bunny hop all over the place and do one shots with the revolver
lemme drop a good review to attract people
 
Real-time worms.
 
There was a qbasic game I used to play with two gorillas throwing bananas
and then there was scorched earth
and now bunnies?
 
the only bug you might have not spotted was that in the game options menu, if you're at the last option, pressing down does not wrap back to the first option, instead it increases the last option's value
not sure if this was intended
 
8:21 PM
@Nican worms world party?
 
@Jaden Never played it.
 
@Nican i guess its the 3d follower from worms
 
sbi
> VW Extension does not interfere with your dev environment so you can test your code in normal conditions. It automatically detects CI environments and makes your test suites succeed even with failing assertions or unwanted exceptions \o/ – Wow.
 
 
@Xeo Yeah, but still...
 
8:25 PM
bah seems like I took them both with a potato.
oh well
 
it deserves to be there come on
 
sbi
A dog. I am genuinely unimpressed.
 
Loungers' achievements should be pinned
oh hey ape
 
@sbi is that... sarcasm?
 
:) cool
 
sbi
8:26 PM
@Jaden From what I understand, it's a unit testing help.
Also, it's PHP. Need I say more?
 
sbi
A dog. I am genuinely unimpressed.
 
this is all the attention I'm paying
 
Puppy's selfie rate is dramatically increasing lately
 
@AndyProwl Okay, I pinned it. (Please tell me it's not another Black Friday link in disguise.)
 
8:28 PM
@fredoverflow lol
thanks
 
@AndyProwl It always comes in bursts when I go home. This time, though, I took way too many photos with my family in the background, so I actually can't post most of them.
 
@Puppy so we have proof that it's not cameras that take bad pictures
 
@sehe I took them with a potato.
 
yesterday weren't any better, afaict
 
nope
I have some better ones but not for public consumption
 
8:30 PM
@Puppy How old is she?
 
@Puppy AWW
 
about five years or so
 
@Elyse b7af6b9 implement void pointers, that was easier than I expected :)
 
oh, no longer a puppy then
 
she hasn't been in a puppy in a long time.
 
8:32 PM
@Puppy Nice:)
 
 
HI DAISE!
 
She should bite you for misspelling her name
 
she wasn't really paying attention
 
I suspect she would not care:)
 
Xeo
8:35 PM
I'm kinda surprised that those don't one-box in a larger size
 
lol
 
@Mr.kbok Use a strong typedef or a custom serialization wrapper
 
@MartinJames HOW TO SHOW COCK
ok I should stop with this meme
 
@AndyProwl Unfortunately, that is a normal position:)
 
deny
 
user1804599
8:37 PM
@fredoverflow What happens if I do char x = 0; (int*)(void*)&x;? Runtime error?
 
what is the list of approved memes
rebecca is now forbidden
 
user1804599
 
1) puppy posts pictures of puppy, 2) that's it
 
mom? bby? cimpoler?
 
@Elyse Yes:
override fun cast(source: Value): Value {
    val sourceType = (source as PointerValue).type()
    if (this != sourceType) throw AssertionError("$this is not assignment-compatible with $sourceType")
    return source
}
 
8:38 PM
@AndyProwl It was always forbidden, some people were just too stupid to know it
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
@AndyProwl puhuh is she
 
user1804599
But that doesn't allow casting to const.
 
@Puppy I guess I'm in the club lol
 
@Elyse const isn't implemented yet
 
8:39 PM
11 hours ago, by Tony The Lion
I think I might start kicking everyone who posts that rebecca.blackfriday link
 
user1804599
You should check assign-compatibility.
 
user1804599
Instead of equality.
 
I guess I'll stick to mom and verbibols for a while
 
Oh so when an owner has a putative decision on his mind that implies prohibition
 
@Elyse Makes no difference for pointers, modulo const, right?
 
user1804599
8:40 PM
No idea.
 
@CatPlusPlus is the raving bots map a reference to the team 17 map in WA? IIRC there was one there
 
Maybe? Friend just thought we might as well make a logo-based one
It's not very playable :v
 
@sehe Dunno, I grew the impression more owners and regulars felt the same
 
oh no doubt. But nothing is codified I bet
 
there's no written law, sure, but in general if an owner says "stop doing X" I stop doing X
 
8:44 PM
I'll remember that.
 
:D
damn
 
the blackfriday thing wasn't a meme, it was just a bunch of pointless trolling
 
I think I've never been a trouble-maker to be honest so yeah
 
Puppy. Go home
 
I am, in fact, currently at my residence.
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow Nice.
 
user1804599
I like that they got rid of generics.
 
user1804599
Having both abstract type members and generics sucks!
 
@CatPlusPlus yea too easy to fall off it
I think the russian map is the nicest
you also added an AWP haha
I liked that one the most
 
8:56 PM
It's Barrett M82 :p
 
well I don't know much about snipers so if it's a sniper and it's green it's an awp to me :P
 
Oh, the green one, that's the other one
Barrett is funner
 
@Elyse Are you interested in Scala again, after all? ;)
 
Updating to Xubuntu 15.10. I am going to regret this! :)
 
user1804599
@fredoverflow no
 
user1804599
8:58 PM
But Dotty ≠ Scala.
 
(Disclaimer it's not that weapon it's only inspired by that weapon)
 
user1804599
Anyway subtyping sucks.
 
I think this will be a fun game to play together
lounge deathmatching with bunnies
 
well then
38 minutes to complete my food order
 
@Puppy Or else?
 
9:00 PM
I lose my derrivery slot
 
@Puppy: Is it not about 10 PM at your place? How come you are ordering food so late in the evening?
 
@wilx Why Xubuntu instead of Linux Mint xfce?
 
@fredoverflow Because I have had Xubuntu since day one.
 
it's currently 22:02
and I am ordering food because I want food.
 
@wilx When was day one?
 
9:03 PM
@fredoverflow InstallationDate: Installed on 2011-11-13 (1436 days ago)
 
I made teh cheese, tomato salad butties:)
 
@AlexM. You can leave your controller ID on the forum so I don't forget about it later
 
@fredoverflow Actually, I think I lied. Unintentionally. I actually installed Ubuntu and did not like Gnome3. So I reinstalled Kubuntu and was able to work with it for few days. In the end, something sucked and I have tried Xubuntu and stayed with it.
I used to use XFCE on FreeBSD that used to run for like a year before I broke it beyond usual repair and reinstalled back to Windows.
 
@CatPlusPlus done
 
Years later I broke the Windows 7 install I had, since I built this box, because BIOS upgrade broke/split HW disk mirroring and I needed a working system fast, so I used the Ubuntu.
 
9:09 PM
@wilx You know you can install any DE on any of those variants
 
@CatPlusPlus Yes, I realized it later after the Xubuntu was already in.
 
@AlexM. Thanks
Releasing things requires so much writing god
 
I keep wanting to play the russian level lol
 
Good :v
 
you can reach really crazy speeds while jumping without the low grav thing moon has and stuff
but then I just can't aim fast enough :<
 
9:21 PM
Ugh.
I never thought I'd need to optimize python...
THis is gonna be a trainwreck.
Lol
There is no profiler available for the python code in Visual Studio.
gdi.
 
I found the other sniper rifle, it feels great shooting it
I also love how the accuracy increases as you fall down
on tall enough maps this can let you get some awesome sniper shots while in mid-air
I have no idea how you want to balance this between casual and skill based but it feels like a lot can be done with enough practicing
ninja rope-like
 
There hasn't been much balancing done yet
 
you don't have double jumping in, right? I remember trying it
 
Nope, you have to be on the ground to jump
We have gravity shenanigans though
 
9:37 PM
@nick Cleaned my keyboard. There was food everywhere on the backplate.
 
@wilx hrm. Ubuntu doesn't Gnome3 normally
 
@Nooble If you intend to cook, the CPU heatsink would be a better place for your food.
 
Hi guys
 
Umm.... hello....
 
how are you running it remotely? Try a remote shell... — sehe 13 secs ago
 
9:45 PM
^^ too obvious?
 
Can anyone guide me about what Appfabric is? Actually I started my first job after graduation as Software Engineer (Text Miner). There they asked me to deploy Appfabric cache for some of their product. I am confused about when we need to use this kind of software? I assume someone may help.
 
@M.Awais Some Microsoft crap.
 
Never heard of it. Not trying to look it up either, last time I tried that from some Lounge post, all I got was some 4th-rate porn movie.
 
Yes I know that's kinda crap thing. It took me 8 hours to configure but still not working
 
Oh, like Apache, then.
 
9:49 PM
May be I get something like that @MartinJames. At last I'd enjoy my weekend ;) 1st-rate please :P
Well actually I didn't understand its purpose @Nooble. Can you explain briefly for me?
 
@M.Awais It's microsoft middleware for Windows Server.
 
@M.Awais While we don't concentrate exclusively on programming (by any means), about the only thing we discuss about IT here is how much we despite IT people (and all other things IT).
 
@Nooble Wow, I bet that's a barn-burner I can't possibly do without.
 
Right @Nooble. When it's expected to be a necessary thing in our product? Any kind of scenario you might quote for me?
 
@CatPlusPlus you can double jump in some cases
 
9:54 PM
Mebbe if it uses a lot of CPU, it might help @Nooble cook his keyboard food.
 
the momentum is kept and you get launched really far
 
@JerryCoffin It's my first day here in chat. A newbie actually. I'll get used to chat room's culture I believe. :)
 
Well yes if you touch the surface you can jump again, that's not really double jump :v
 
ok you can use ramps :A
 
@M.Awais It takes some effort, but it's worth it. Just don't mention the Bartek.
 
9:56 PM
the reason I asked you about balancing is because it looks to me like you developed a scaffolding for a "easy to learn really hard to master" kind of game
 
@MartinJames sure I wouldn't.
 
and I think it's worth going that way but I'm not the designer behind it, just a player
so don't take me too seriously
there are downsides to that mainly elitist communities keeping newbies out
 
What you're seeing is mostly a consequence of movement being completely physics driven
 
nah forget the ramps, I meant in general
I'm comparing your game to e.g. teeworlds
I remember playing that one a while ago on linux
it's a 2D arena shooter like yours
 
Oh god I remember that game
 
9:59 PM
@CatPlusPlus elitist communities may try to keep newbies out but newbies can come over if they have the passion.
 
@CatPlusPlus probably a better coder than Bethesda.
 
There's no online multiplayer right now anyway, so there's not really any room for elitism
We'll see how it goes
 
I hope you get the online part done soon, I wanna play with people here
you want to get this to consoles too? (you're concerned about controllers vs mouse)
 
It needs some groundwork in how physics work, so it won't be very soon
Maybe, dunno
Consoles are not very developer friendly
 
@CatPlusPlus A truly elitist asshole can manage to be elitist anyway. Anybody who needs an online community to be elitist is just a poor imitation of the real thing.
 
10:02 PM
XB1 has fairly decent developer program so maybe that
XB360 requires a publisher deal and crap, PS4 requires actual physical presence in North America for whatever ungodly reason
 
@Nooble nasty
 
I wouldn't hold my breath for console support
 
0
A: Simplify code for an in-class demo

seheDrop the "play again" or drop the "Guess 0 to quit". In fact, drop the "quit" because the Ctrl-C or close-button of the terminal are already there. Rename answer to something less confusion (pick or secret) and make it const. Extract a function for the "voodoo" to generate a random number. Make...

Hehe. Worst question of the day. Overkill answer
At least he tries to teach anything well.
 
user1804599
10:05 PM
:p
 
user1804599
In NL it's a disk instead of a pyramid. Hence we can eat entire pizzas!
 
yay
 
user1804599
 
user1804599
Super awesome.
 
nice
 
10:07 PM
@sehe I don't remember the last time I used do {} while. Is this common practice?
 
user1804599
uh ok so
 
IMO having the conditions at the top make the code a bit more readable
 
@sehe Almost tempted to downvote, if only for still using srand/rand.
 
You wouldn't
 
@nick no, but it removes the jarring conditions that don't make sense to newbs reading the code from top to bottom
@JerryCoffin sigh
 
10:10 PM
 
@sehe :-)
 
I'll add a proper version then
 
@sehe I'd move that to codereview.se
 
@AndyProwl almost clicked this without checking the link
 
@sehe Don't do it on my account. (But Alex is right: this would fit better on CodeReview).
 
10:11 PM
Such a wonderful tale, Hearts of Stone, that is.
 
@nick haha, I'm not gonna do that again I promise
 
user1804599
WTF
 
@AlexM. Oh yeah. it's the first thing I tried to do. No such option though
 
user1804599
I refresh shopping cart.
> Size M.
I refresh shopping cart.
> Size L.
Repeat.
 
user1804599
This website is broken.
 
user1804599
10:12 PM
I don't want to order the wrong stuff. :L
 
Dammit it's already midnight
 
@Elyse That's because of the burger you ate meanwhile.
 
user1804599
Let's clear cookies and local storage and try again.
 
:D
What are you ordering?
 
@Morwenn lol
a second burger
 
user1804599
10:14 PM
ok now it's good :p
 
user1804599
@Morwenn vest
 
@CatPlusPlus nooo :( at least wait for more feedback before ditching the mouse support idea
it's likely only a fraction of your audience (it's a PC game) will use the gamepad
 
Eh, it kinda just doesn't work with the design
 
@Elyse Is it cute?
 
but soldat and teeworlds and stuff work with the mouse
 
10:16 PM
In both online and local MP someone with a mouse will aim much much faster than someone without
Neither of those support controllers
 
user1804599
no, it's terrible, hence I'm ordering it
 
you're terrible
 
It's not set in stone or anything, but I just don't see it working unless you make keyboard/mouse only online games
 
Hence I'm ordering you.
 
check your privilege
 
10:18 PM
Czech your prvolege.
 
CS GO lets you play with the controller on PC too :P
nobody does it because it's a PC shooter
some do it for fun or to make youtube videos for the laughs tho
 
We're focusing on couch multiplayer a lot
 
alright, won't insist further
 
I changed the answer to say 'probably' :v
Still need to do some concrete roadmap
 
yay
 
10:23 PM
@Morwenn Pole your czechage.
 
@JerryCoffin Omelette du czechage.
Honhonhon.
 
if you (by you I don't mean Cat) had this way to cross-stream action and send keyboard inputs as well you could get something like a remote hotseat game
there was this program that you could use to simulate a LAN over the internet forgot the name
wait, not cross-stream action, just stream from server to client
client sends keystrokes to server
 
user1804599
XD
 
sounds laggy
 
Physics simulation has to be synchronised between server and client anyway
 
10:26 PM
edited to make it clear
 
And right now the calculations aren't deterministic enough
 
it was just a random idea that came to me
I think it should work I mean why not, you start a hotseat/split-screen game, and the program streams the action to the 2nd player, and gets the keystrokes he sends through
would the lag even be that bad
 
Streaming rendered frames would suck a lot
 
that OnLive thing proved to be playable with fast enough internet so input lag might not be a huge issue (?)
 
10:28 PM
Plus it's a lot of work that would be better spent on actual online multiplayer :v
 
yeah this was something that would work with any game
like e.g. the thing I mentioned that simulated LANs over the internet
hamachi
I remembered the name, it was hamachi
I used it once to play Baldur's Gate
 
Hamachi is just a VPN
 
Anyway time to sleep
 
yea I'm off to sleep too
 
10:33 PM
sweet dreams
 
@CatPlusPlus Sleep well :)
@AlexM. And you too :p
 
ugh, it appears the coroutine keywords might become : co_return, co_await, co_yield
 
10:48 PM
lol
just do return yield
come on committee
 
user1804599
No, make it a library feature.
 
In the interest of overkill (@JerryCoffin), here's something I'd like to end up with with a serious group of C++ pupils: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/a088004c95132883sehe 11 secs ago
 
user1804599
Don't complicate the language with this shit in a suboptimal manner.
 
@AlexM. Any idea who Gaunter O'Dimm really was? Most refer to him as Evil or Darkness, but his name spells out "god". Devil / dark god?
 
@TemplateRex cilk_return, cilk_await, cilk_yield... Oh wait :o
 
10:54 PM
@Morwenn oh_wait keyword
 
Hello guru oracles in the sky
 
user1804599
Hello village idiot
 
std::return, std::await, std::yield
Wait, wasn't coreturn and yield supposed to be the same thing?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked krijg nou de coliru!
 
@villageidiot copyrighted words detected
 
10:57 PM
@sehe i wouldn't be surprised if i'd be sued by that company, if i were big enough to matter.
but they don't deal with idiots. much.
 
eat more
 
what's wrong with await keyword
 
@Rapptz It awaits a return.
 
user1804599
You're making a language feature what could be a library feature, where the latter would even be more flexible.
 
user1804599
Boost.Coroutine is proof.
 
10:59 PM
is it okay to ask a not-so-technical question?

how long do you work on a task before you realize you're stuck? and what do you do to make it that short a time? and what do you do then?
 
user1804599
I never get stuck.
 
but of course.
 
user1804599
But if I would get stuck, I'd backtrack!
 

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