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4:00 PM
@orlp Fine. You?
 
@Lalaland oh yea that tragedy
 
@Morwenn I'm αlive.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yeah, there's a visual stimulus that causes an extremely reliable effect in the brain with 100ms delay after seeing it. It's so reliable it even works if you're braindead except for the visual cortex.
 
@JerryCoffin really? it's asyncrhonous in a strange way, we were fsm-moore-ing almost every program we wrote
 
@ScarletAmaranth αsyncrhonous?
 
>US medical system
>works
pick none
And I speak as an American citizen
 
weren't you from thailand
 
@orlp I don't know how to explain... everything you write is run "simultaenously" and you have to have a state (like in a state automaton) to decide what to actually not run - I don't understand it very well to be honest, @JerryCoffin surely knows a lot more
 
4:02 PM
@ElimGarak So, does is sound plausible or not?
 
@ScarletAmaranth I was trolling your spelling
@GregorMcGregor why did your parents name you gregor?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Yes, you do end up writing a lot of state machines. Such is life.
 
@orlp oh I read that correctly even when you wrote it
 
"hey honey?" "yeah?" "you know what'd be funny?" "hmm?" "let's call him gregor" "that's so troll" "ye lol"
 
FWIW It's a GTX 670 and some decent monitor plugged via DP. Windows.
 
4:03 PM
@JerryCoffin yes well I didn't enjoy it much :-\
 
@orlp Yeah as mentioned in my profile people often make fun of my name because of the repetition repetition
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes double penetration?
 
DisplayPort.
Fuck this keyboard.
 
Well, OpenGL is not explicitly synchronized (basically, you don't personally have to be signaled on completion of the frame before moving to present), so when a present is issued it will have to finalize the frame. Accessing the back buffer is mediated behind the scenes, when the GPU is done working with it. It is most likely something that you've got in the render loop that is retarding performance.
 
> Coursera
We have recommendations for you
you recommend the same shit every week
fuck off
 
4:04 PM
@ElimGarak No, it can't be our code.
 
To be fair they didn't say "we have new recommendations for you"
 
The only place where I've seen driver-related performance retardation is OS X.
 
@ElimGarak The delay is between swapping the buffers and the brain seeing the frame.
 
@ElimGarak iv'e seen all sorts of retardation in OS X
 
It should be 100ms but it is 180ms.
 
4:05 PM
Whoever developed the OpenCL driver on OS X was dropped on the head as a baby. Several times.
 
It's a very simple frame
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes look faster :P
 
beyond the driver, it can only be the desktop compositor cockblocking you. it's definitely not a problem with the hardware if everything else is working properly.
 
An evoked potential or evoked response is an electrical potential recorded from the nervous system of a human or other animal following presentation of a stimulus, as distinct from spontaneous potentials as detected by electroencephalography (EEG), electromyography (EMG), or other electrophysiological recording method. Evoked potential amplitudes tend to be low, ranging from less than a microvolt to several microvolts, compared to tens of microvolts for EEG, millivolts for EMG, and often close to a volt for ECG. To resolve these low-amplitude potentials against the background of ongoing EEG, ECG...
> The signal is time-locked to the stimulus
There's almost no variation across subjects.
 
@GregorMcGregor why are you a farmer if you can program btw
 
4:08 PM
boring
way more interesting
 
Are these gears Solid?
 
@orlp Why would I be a programmer if I can farm?
 
Also, the actual physical time it takes to get the data from the GPU to the display is as fast as pinging something across the atlantic. (70+ ms easy)
 
@ElimGarak mind = blown
 
@GregorMcGregor because programming is more fun, and doesn't physically tire you :D
 
4:09 PM
Debatable
 
@TonyTheLion just a carmack quote
 
Ugh, it took 15 minutes for one of my scripts to run and it was useless since it ended in an integer overflow.
 
I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that?
 
@MarcoA. battle toads?
 
4:10 PM
Not really a quote, it is on the basis of physical measurements.
 
@ElimGarak Ah, right, forgot that!
 
684
Q: Transatlantic ping faster than sending a pixel to the screen?

Konrad RudolphJohn Carmack tweeted, I can send an IP packet to Europe faster than I can send a pixel to the screen. How f’d up is that? And if this weren’t John Carmack, I’d file it under “the interwebs being silly”. But this is John Carmack. How can this be true? To avoid discussions about what exact...

 
That might explain it!
 
Carmack just learned about that and tweeted it, it is actually a dirty secret of the way displays work.
 
You clearly need to figure out how to use Europe as a display technology. — wfaulk May 3 '12 at 14:29
 
4:11 PM
@ElimGarak how is it a dirty secret of how displays work?
 
@TonyTheLion Well, it's not "readily advertised" :D
 
oh lol
 
Also, at the core of the 30 / 60 FPS dilemma is basically just delayed input registry, especially if vsync is forced. But once the stream of data that is delayed begins, you actually do get 60 frames per second or whatever is advertised.
 
my rep ends with 8486
such a nice number
 
I can't wait until gsync and co are mainstream
 
4:13 PM
would be better with the 0 in the middle but
 
tbh, fixed refresh rates are silly
 
< 10k users not allowed in this room
 
:(
 
@ElimGarak Yeah, but I don't care about FPS. These are trivial frames.
 
@Morwenn <3
 
4:14 PM
I also can't wait
until FPS is abolished from this earth
and everyone switches to frametime
 
@GregorMcGregor I've got 20k over the network. Does it count?
 
@ElimGarak I care about latency because I need to associate the visual stimuli with the neurological activity.
 
Frametime is preferable due to being a better relative metric, drastic jumps in framerates do not map to drastic jumps in frametimes.
 
@Morwenn Yes! And you're Briton so you get a Super Special Snowflake VIP Pass anyway
 
I think I should swallow my prejudices about D&D and try at least 1 game.
 
4:15 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes
 
I just wrote a very detailed an long answer to this question only to now realize that it has been closed.. stupid stupid me
 
@GregorMcGregor I have more than 10k atoms in my body. Does that count?
 
@GregorMcGregor To make up for the bad weather :p
 
Ell
@orlp isn't freesync in DP already?
 
I mean, asking about the usage of void in C++ is actually a good question - so I thought I'd give it a good answer
 
4:16 PM
imagine if all shops priced items in items/dollar rather than dollars/item
ohh, this melon costs 0.33 items/dollar
what a steal!
 
ITT refp sucks at repwhoring
 
> I want to learn void datatypes for my C++ Text Based RPG
refpwhoring
 
@ElimGarak We're gonna stick a photodiode to the screen and use that as the reference for the frame times.
 
@GregorMcGregor If you're going to claim a minimum, at least try to act like a programmer and make it a power of 2.
 
@GregorMcGregor :-(
I'll go to bar C++ then
 
4:18 PM
@GregorMcGregor I don't rep whore, that kinda implies that I would have a lot more reputation
 
@JerryCoffin < 8 KiUsers not allowed in this room
 
@GregorMcGregor I just like answering questions
 
3 mins ago, by Gregor McGregor
@Morwenn Yes! And you're Briton so you get a Super Special Snowflake VIP Pass anyway
 
@ElimGarak Anyway, thanks for reminding me of this.
 
I'm a super special snowflake
oh no, im melting
 
4:20 PM
I'm tired, and the only reason I'm at the (new) office is to let the cleaners in
 
No problem, also worth noting that my last experiments with that were in my days of dabbling with electronics, which is easily 2010. Improvements have happened over the years, but I doubt they've gone too far unless you have one of those OLED displays. And even them have an inherent latency which is non-trivial.
 
Why don't the cleaners have the keys?
 
breaks encapsulation
 
@Jefffrey because then you can't lock them in before brutally murdering them
refp isn't as innocent as he may look
 
rule of 0.4: cleaners don't deal with ownership
 
4:22 PM
I've been such a wreck since last night when my mother called me in tears saying that my grandma passed away.. my mother is adopted (long story, abusing adopters, no contact with them) and I only met my grandma for the first time earlier this year
and I only met her twice
 
struct Key : Dualton { };
 
I can't stand flies. I am so annoyed.
 
and now she's gone..
 
@ElimGarak Yeah, the photodiode solves this for any screen, so.
 
fucking hell
 
4:22 PM
@ElimGarak can you fly stands?
 
condolences @FilipRoséen-refp
 
you should decouple the cleaners from the cleanee and its lock strategy anyway
 
Ell
@FilipRoséen-refp My condolences.
 
@orlp I know this is a popular room, but I doubt we've ever had more than 8192 users on at once.
 
@Jefffrey new office, and the guy responsible for fixing the keys is somewhere-I-do-not-know
 
4:23 PM
We just need to dedicate a corner of the screen to blink as needed to mark stimuli.
 
@MarcoA. @Ell thanks, appreciated!
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was gonna suggest that
like a white square in the corner
that toggles each frame
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Btw what are you guys doing? :D
 
@ElimGarak EEG stuff.
 
@GregorMcGregor probably, or just put dirt everywhere in the office and call it art - then have some division of the government declare it as a "place that needs preservation just the way it is because it's freakin' awesome", and then we wouldn't need cleaners anymore
 
4:25 PM
Well, at least it is more exciting than ensuring energy conservation of my new BRDF when subjected to area lights. So much approximating, my heart aches.
Also, did I mention that Metal opted in for the DirectX-style NDC?
 
I'm having that men vs women gender pay gap discussion yet again.
How do I break out of this
 
You should explain to women that they should be happy to be outside the kitchen. Problem solved.
 
lol
 
user1804599
Hello.
 
@Jefffrey claim you sexually identify as an apache attack helicopter, and claim superiority over the other sexes
 
4:28 PM
I just smacked a fly while it was in flight. WHAT A DELICIOUS SOUND IT MADE.
 
I'm so happy right now.
 
user1804599
Nice, comment about gay disease got deleted.
 
@ElimGarak murderer
 
@ElimGarak electric swatter?
 
4:29 PM
@elyse You had reported it?
 
user1804599
I flagged it.
 
user1804599
As offensive, for the lolz.
 
@elyse *lulz
 
user1804599
funfact: "lul" is a Dutch word for a penis.
 
@elyse Gay disease? I didn't know bacteria (much less viruses) even had sexes, not to mention sexual preferences.
 
4:30 PM
@MarcoA. The regular one, I just hit it as hard as I could. If it weren't for terminal velocity, it would've splattered all over the wall. Terminal velocity takes out all the fun out of murdering insects.
 
@Mysticial That's almost entirely reasonable but you can squelch people here and be done with them. You can't ignore flags AFAIK.
 
@elyse lol, you lul.
@ScarletAmaranth Well, Telkitty is gone now, so not much point in reviving that corpse of a discussion. :D
 
yay 16kg of cat food arrived
 
user1804599
@ElimGarak klootzak
 
@BartekBanachewicz (Heavy breathing)
 
4:36 PM
@GregorMcGregor I'm not a real one
 
@ElimGarak really? well, I wouldn't even notice, I've had her ignored for years now - to be honest it's a bit silly to complain about it when you can simply squelch
 
Well, there is always someone responding to her and every once in a while she creates an issue which riles up the Lounge. And it basically destroys all the nice threads of discussion you were previously following. I've tried plonking her many times.
 
plonk and don't unplonk :)
 
user1804599
4:41 PM
TIL
 
This my CPU usage in the last minutes
Can you spot the moment where I opened Facebook in a Google Chrome tab and the moment I closed it?
 
Good storage there
 
Ell
oh hey my volume up button werks
 
@CatPlusPlus Nah, just a huge upload job alongside a huge download job.
 
4:48 PM
@CatPlusPlus hey
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That looks unfamiliar. What tool is that?
 
inb4 mom joke
 
@underscore Are you pinging random people for help?
 
no why?
 
@underscore Ok, proceed.
 
4:50 PM
hey @CatPlusPlus I also wanted to ping you just because
 
ah, you probably have the guy plonked
3 mins ago, by underscore
@CatPlusPlus hey
so I thought I'd make that wonderful joke
sorry for teh annoyanz
 
@AndyProwl I'm surprised you don't
 
I don't plonk
 
That's a mistake
 
4:54 PM
could be
 
Andy, plonks are like Lounge17 and you're still on Lounge98.
 
I'm on Lounge with Wusses
 
So, should I watch Inception?
 
Yes. No. Maybe.
 
4:58 PM
I don't know... Can you repeat the question?
 
Warning: Exploitative Channel 4 show #GIRLSTOMEN misled #trans participants, uses footage without their consent. http://t.co/N6rsLBUnrr
 
@ElimGarak I enjoyed it
 
user1804599
@sehe ok vOv
 
ok, home time
 
@sehe Yeah, let's do that.
 
5:00 PM
later guises
 
Later :)
 
cpx
@ElimGarak I watched it almost hundred times while writing some code.
 
There's also this movie Dope. Seems like not absolute shit.
 
@sehe It's true that most of the information we are fed about transgenderism is mosty sensational stuff.
 
You don't wish to imply most trans are just like most cis people right :)
 
5:08 PM
What? Most trans are scum?
 
@wilx I'm not saying it's always been that way
@R.MartinhoFernandes And stupid
 
@AndyProwl Later.
 
Guys, I should write a small simple CRUD (R for all, CUD for an admin) REST api probably for some free online hosting like Heroku or Openshift. What's the easiest way to set up a REST API from a Postgres database?
I'm looking for something like PostgREST but maybe a little less... alpha.
 
$ perl -e '-$-@:"?"(;@;*+'!*;&$;"+*)"' is the easiest
 
@Jefffrey I disagree--you may need to do that, but should do no such thing.
 
5:10 PM
@JerryCoffin Why not? :c
 
@sehe Well, kind of.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not knowledgable enough to know what that means :c
 
It means SQUIGGLY LINES!
Yaaay squiggly lines
 
@Jefffrey The thing you're most familiar with
Obviously
 
I've never done such a thing
So there's no thing that I'm most familiar with
 
user1804599
 
@elyse :c
 
user1804599
Yes use it it's the easiest. :P
 
Then Python
 
user1804599
otherwise, RoR probably
 
@Jefffrey All CRUD should be expunged from the face of the earth.
 
user1804599
5:14 PM
or DJango
 
lol ror
 
@JerryCoffin Why?
 
RoR is nigh unpenetrable garbage
 
@elyse ror is 'lol' in engrish
 
user1804599
Easiest to set up, not easiest to maintain or serve.
 
5:15 PM
It's not any of those things
 
@Jefffrey Because it uses the computer simply as a storage device, and pushes the work onto people instead. Because it gets in the way of using the computer to play games and chat as god intended.
 
rotate right?
 
@JerryCoffin lol
 
@MartinJames Ruby on Rails. A lousy way to develop programs nobody in their right mind would ever want to use.
Hmmm...somehow it suddenly occurs to me I have have been hanging around the cat too much for too long.
 
@JerryCoffin Oh THAT RoR:( Fuck Ruby, derailed or not.
 
5:21 PM
lol derailed
 
@milleniumbug That seems to have derailed all conversations for a while though.
 
holy fucking shit
> Your earnings for this session: $104.00
 
before tax
 
Moneeyyy
 
@Columbo FYI I just wrote a PoC to access the bits of a type T through char* in a constant-expression that works in clang.
currently on on subway, but will publish soon
 
@GregorMcGregor lol suggesting I pay taxes for imaginary internet money
 
5:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz :O
 
@Borgleader 1 hour mate. With a really nice girl. Teaching her Haskell.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I am not aware of Polish legislation but in my home country it would be taxable if you made over 3000 euros / year
 
It's officially my dream job.
@GregorMcGregor This money never gets into Poland
I spend it on the internet for stuff like games on steam
 
Would be tremendously hard to prove that I'm doing anything wrong
 
5:48 PM
Oh I see
Well once again that depends on local legislation really
 
in practice noone cares
 
@JohanLarsson Hmmm....doesn't seem to hold up to much scrutiny.
 
Difference between theory and practice is one of the reasons you see Greece in its current state hth
 
Uggh Unity has Awake and OnEnable separately, but instead of 'object a Awake', 'object b Awake', 'object a OnEnable', 'object b OnEnable' I get a a b b
 
@BartekBanachewicz codementor?
 
5:53 PM
@Mr.kbok hackhands
 
looks cool
 
Time to burrito.
 
> Divshot has joined Firebase!
ooooooh
two web things i really like together
 
user1804599
 
@Mr.kbok it's like instant. Someone opens a request, and you instantly connect to them
 
5:57 PM
@elyse Let's play a game: first to guess the country wins
 
@Morwenn note smiley (":)") :)
 
user1804599
Stupid child shouldn't have called 911.
 
user1804599
Own fault.
 
Yeah. This will teach them
 
@elyse terribad
 
user1804599
5:58 PM
She's still alive so you can make jokes about it RIGHT??!
 
> “Mommy, am I gonna die?”
 
Also, what dog moves his snout when being shot at. Get some puppy training maybe
 
Yes sweety, eventually you will, be patient.
 
@elyse Don't tell us what to do
 
user1804599
@sehe Don't tell me what not to do
 
5:59 PM
also nobody needs warning shots in this country
 
elyse is the enzyme that destroys e
WOW bio nerd joke
 
@milleniumbug this was the warning shot!
 

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