« first day (1822 days earlier)      last day (3119 days later) » 

Ell
12:01 AM
night all!
 
@Ell Night L.
 
For those who virtualize Windows on Mac using VirtualBox, how's the battery life? Does the battery drain quickly?
 
@DemCodeLines Just get a decent laptop and you won't have to worry about it ;)
 
@Nooble My Mac's doing fine right now, I just don't want to irreversibly damage its battery because I started using VirtualBox.
 
why not use parallels or w/e it's called?
 
12:06 AM
Too expensive for me atm
 
hmm
 
Why not dual boot?
 
Oh man, this season of Supernatural is gooooooooooooooood
 
Ell
okay I haven't gotten into bed yet
I have a problem man
how do you guys make yourself go to sleep at a reasonable time?
I tihnk my problem is an addiction to screens
 
i got a job. it straightened my sleep schedule, now i invariably get tired at 9:30PM
 
12:26 AM
@Ell can’t help you there
 
@Ell I don't.
Although due to school, I sleep when I can.
And due to massive amounts of school-related work I'm assigned to do, that's usually 1:30 a.m..
 
Ell
if I go to bed, I play on my phone
and I have a nokia brick
so I sit and play snake forever
attempt 2 at sleeping
night again!
 
Nighty night.
OpenGL broke again.
And all I did was update the drivers. =/
 
☑ rekt ☐ not rekt
 
I hate OpenGL.
I'll go through and fix this some other time, it's really stupid to keep doing this. =/
 
12:36 AM
In sovient russia, OpenGL hates you
 
12:49 AM
the pun
 
@Mikhail Running a server on NodeJS (which I wanted to install in Windows), so I need both the server and the app to be running at the same time.
 
@Ell night
 
I'm trying to run the just about most basic program using std::promise on coliru, and it blows up: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/327ef8ab3b3dfcb2 Fresh out of ideas...
Just creating a promise, and on setting the value immediately afterwards it throws a system_exception
 
(Spoilers? Maybe?) New Bobba Fett > Old Bobba Fett :)
 
@Deduplicator g++ -x c++ -std=c++1z -O3 -pedantic -Wall -Wextra -pthread main.cpp && ./a.out
 
1:00 AM
@Deduplicator -pthread lol
 
@Mikhail thanks.
argh
 
fdp best register name
 
mdr
 
How difficult is it to uninstall Homebrew on mac?
Like completely remove it, no trace, back to what the system was before it was installed.
 
@LucDanton Can you tell I'm going through the transcript
 
1:06 AM
@GregorMcGregor no
 
my disguise is perfect
 
@StackedCrooked can we get boost 1.59 pretty please?
 
you’ll just be asking for 1.60 when it comes out
 
how did you know
 
Intel's integrated memory controller and cache performance is better than AMD's (FX bulldozer) also there is a latency difference because of pipeline depth. I would buy an apu version of Intel or AMD instead of pure desktop cores. Because each apu cumpute unit has integrated addressable memory and far more faster than a cache and is faster and as a result, you can use less mainmemory dependant algorithms. An AMD apu tenfolds the opencl performance of an AMD desktop cpu for the same price for embarrassingle parallel fp workloads. Also it would be a good chance to try HSA related codes on. — huseyin tugrul buyukisik 14 hours ago
too much sense /cc @Elim @Mysticial
 
1:20 AM
Ugh.
It's happening again.
Turn on graphics debugging, access violation in shitty graphic debugger.
Can't debug my code now.
 
does tenfolding somehow relate to rightfolding
 
@ThePhD :|
 
@jaggedSpire What?
 
@ThePhD gotta love shitty debuggers
 
@jaggedSpire Indeed.
 
1:25 AM
Woohoo: reimplemented that same parser using Spirit X3: borken on Coliru. It runs for me using clang++-3.6 though. You can witness that in the latest editions of the livestream: part #1 part #2. Compilation time is down roughly 42% — sehe 1 min ago
So, X3 is not a big mystery anymore. In flux though, I had to workaround an issue related to debugging the rules and Coliru doesn't have the latest bits
 
>Compilation time is down roughly 42%
minor inconvenience
 
Hmm? That's a boon, right
Am I wording it unclear or are you pulling my leg :)
 
is the X in X3 there for coolness
 
@sehe Yes
 
It took me roughly ~2 hours to port it, while chatting on livecoding. Sooo. Not too bad
9 hours ago, by Elim Garak
Spirit X3 sounds like a fantastic electric car. Or light aircraft.
@GregorMcGregor teehee
 
1:28 AM
go to bed you’re shooting arrows every which way again
 
In the nick of time
 
right in the face
 
:D
 
@sehe yes?
 
Nick off, time
 
1:42 AM
team potato <3
 
lol the Reuters market feed API returns const integers
 
what about it
 
why would anyone return anything by const value
 
so you can't manipulate market data duh ;)
 
good thinking Nick
 
1:44 AM
thanks that's what I'm here for
 
@GregorMcGregor for an integral type it has no effect (it’s a good way to generate compiler warnings though!)
for class types it’s actually a C++03 best practice
 
follow my twitch.tv youtube github
 
@LucDanton meh what does it enforce
 
@nick k
 
@GregorMcGregor If someone attempts foo[blah].mutate() thinking it has a long-lasting effect
(in case you decide to implement a counter-intuitive operator[] that returns by-val)
 
1:46 AM
>2015
>using mutable state
 
@GregorMcGregor Well, no. The opposite.
 
@jaggedSpire thx
 
@nick np
 
cuz me
the more of me you have in your life, the better (IMHO)
 
1:50 AM
<2015
<not using mutable state
 
that's not how greentext works you scrub
 
did you mean:
etats elbatum gnisu <
5102 <
 
> ǝʇɐʇs ǝ|qɐʇnɯ ƃuısn <
5102 <
 
how did you write that backwards flipped s
 
1:57 AM
Press b then rotate your monitor
 
that makes a σ
 
that's a q though
 
wow how did you write that backwards flipped d
 
I turned my monitor upside down
 
it also works if you turn your keyboard upside down
 
1:59 AM
^
 
> Warrior seems underpowered
meawhile, in GW2
 
see hee u iz drunk bb
 
@LucDanton stop teasing me pls
 
@nick what makes you think that. It's just late.
32 mins ago, by Luc Danton
go to bed you’re shooting arrows every which way again
 
Can I put "will to play GW2" as a job resignation motive
 
2:01 AM
Charlieeeee :3
 
@GregorMcGregor Those two weeks of waiting are tough.
Buddy of mine hasn’t played in a while and wants to pick up the game again. I remember whenever he was wondering 'Hey I’d like to play X is it any good/useful' the answer was 'not really', but now all those things work.
 
except necro (??????)
 
except necro
 
They broke my chill build ok?
 
how come?
I think it’s as shitty as ever
 
2:04 AM
It was good
(PvP)
 
actually he wanted to play condi minion master and in HoT it’ll likely work lol (but that’s reaper, not base necro)
 
Minions work?! no way
 
@GregorMcGregor Reaper can summon 1 minion per target in the vicinity, up to 5. They decay like the idiot horrors, but you can keep them up with regen/transfusion. Then you have an army. When they die they make poison circles, and nowadays poison stacks in intensity. etc.
You gain toughness per minion.
 
> nowadays poison stacks in intensity
neat
I should quit and go back to France to play GW2
 
Also they just re-hauled scepter lastk week to not suck, it’s now a good condi weapon (not hybrid anymore though).
@GregorMcGregor When they fixed conditions it changed the whole landscape. The 2 top PvE pure damage builds are hybrid, guard can kill you faster with condi than it can power, etc.
 
2:08 AM
Well at the very beginning condi guard was insane
 
true, it remained a fringe build for a long while, too
 
With that near permanent burn uptime
Then they toned it down
 
I’ve seen people jumped on with near instant 5k burn stacks
 
fun times
 
@GregorMcGregor I guess the change is that now it’s a burst build instead of an attrition build, both poison and burning were changed to stacking intensity.
Only damaging conditions that stack duration are chill and fear, and they only damage through traits.
 
2:11 AM
@LucDanton wow my engi is going to love it
(I play p/p or p/s depending on the situation)
But it's burn-intensive
 
yeah you can kick a guy with incendiary ammo on, proc incendiary powder, blast with pistol and melt something :)
@GregorMcGregor Ping from HK too awful?
 
I don't have my desktop PC here, only a laptop which I am not sure can run GW2 in an enjoyable way. Besides, I have no time to play.
Seriously :(
I get home by 22h
 
oi
no wonder you chat so much during work
 
lol
yeah I guess
 
I’m surprised how much I’ve taken a liking to Thief. On top of the PvE funtimes I’m finding myself WvWing a lot. I’m so comfortable I’m trying stupid builds.
 
2:17 AM
losing motivation
 
@GregorMcGregor Lot of statements. I can't say which are correct or not.
 
@LucDanton Try glass
 
@GregorMcGregor Pistol/pistol+shortbow, all venoms, no swiftness no escapes.
Didn’t keep using that one for long though :Þ
 
Oh I was more thinking d/d pure BERSERKER
 
@GregorMcGregor That reminds me, do you play anything with Knight's? I’ve long disliked that spread of stats in favour of Soldier's, but after having tried Scrapper I’m tempted.
 
2:20 AM
I use Knight in fractals IIRC I have an engi PvP build that uses Knight provided my memory is correct
 
@GregorMcGregor Zerk+valk trinkets, valk armor, zerk weapons. Which is the usual loadout for WvW (and more or less corresponds to Marauder which is the amulet of choice in PvP).
Standard weapons are d/p+shortbow actually, although the finer points of d/d vs d/p is kinda lost on me—I can use both anyway
@GregorMcGregor Yeah, Engi is probably the only one I’d enjoy it on. Oh well, gotta use those laurels somehow
 
there are a lot of valid builds anyway
I wanted to make a simulator but never managed to beat my laziness
 
@GregorMcGregor Sure, it’s more about what suits my playstyle or doesn’t. Not too fond of using precision for 1.5× crits.
@GregorMcGregor I don’t have a full simulator but I’ve computed stuff for precision vs ferocity lol.
should probably play something else until HoT
 
2:36 AM
do I spend too much time on this chat :w
 
@GregorMcGregor naw
 
I will never know whether this is sarcasm or not
 
No sarcasm, I wouldn’t be using this chat if I didn’t enjoy the conversations.
 
Hi.
 
Speaking of enjoyable conversations we haven't seen telkitty in a while
 
2:44 AM
Lel.
 
3:08 AM
The Lounge is dead yet again.
 
@GregorMcGregor Apparently you don’t spend enough time here.
 
@GregorMcGregor yes
 
I'm too tired I can't even think
 
is ok
 
3:20 AM
@JerryCoffin Hello wasp.
 
@Nooble Hi. Oh, but bye for a bit--I have to go eat supper.
 
@JerryCoffin bye
 
Tomorrow
My Linear Algebra final.
 
@ThePhD have fun! :)
 
... You have a twisted definition of fun.
I love it.
 
3:32 AM
@ThePhD You're supposed to say Kinky :P
 
:3
<3
 
@jaggedSpire And then you just had to go ruin it with the catface. ;~;
 
@ThePhD :(
 
I need to figure out how to do colorspace correction for CIE XYZ colorspace stuff.
 
@Borgleader it was implied :)
 
3:36 AM
@jaggedSpire :3
 
@Borgleader D:
I can't tell if that's a bear or a dog but it's certainly not a cat
 
Its a dog
an adorable fluffy dog
 
@Borgleader :D
 
I can't figure out how to convert the colorspace for this.
 
4:03 AM
 
@Feeds LRiO must be rolling in his shuttle
 
> Threesome - a Vim plugin for resolving three-way merges-
naming
 
JFC
This makes no goddamn sense
and the spec just assumes you're some kind of SUPER expert.
 
And I really fucking hate
everywhere you go
every reference you read
"yeah you just do shit and shit works"
WHAT IS "DO SHIT", EXACTLY?
 
4:15 AM
If it's not obvious then you're not worthy
 
#wisdom
 
What spec are you reading and why would think the spec of anything would cater to someone unfamiliar with shit?
 
@GregorMcGregor So much sense, it is... Puts on shades ... embarrassingle. :D
Alright, yesterday I let a fly live... Now it is annoying me once more. It's murder time.
 
@CatPlusPlus They keep talking about converting from RGBE, so I do that to regular RGB values and the bright colors are off. So I do somethinking and go "oh, there's probably a color correction value I'm missing here", so I look and sure enough they're using these PRIMARIES values
PRIMARIES goes and refers to teh CIE XYZ 1931 colorspace. So I look at that colorspace nad lo and behold, it has 3 coordinates... but the implementation only provides two per.
 
why do you care about colorspaces
 
4:18 AM
That's okay, maybe they're just assuming unity, so z in XYZ is just z = 1 - x - y.
 
colorspaces are the graphics equivalent of unicode
you don't want to deal with those
 
@GregorMcGregor Because my image comes out dark and shitty while photoshop and other places get it right.
The best part is that they also provide a fourth coordinate for their XYZ PRIMARIES, which is supposed to be the "white point".
So you look at where this "white point" is supposed to be used in the CIE XYZ colorspace stuff and there's just "yeah there's this magical whitepoint, you're going to need fifty thousand more articles about it".
 
PhD enjoying his first forays into HDR. <3
 
@GregorMcGregor we should have unicolor which contains all colorspaces
 
@ElimGarak u wot
 
4:22 AM
@LucDanton And a color equivalent of man_in_costume_levitating
 
@ElimGarak Just gonna use OpenEXR and say fuck HDR. It's an old and shitty format anyways.
Anyone who's not using OpenEXR is a fucking idiot anyways, greg ward's format is pants-on-head retarded.
 
pls no opinions
 
That was a waste of time.
 
RadianceHDR is rather simplistic in design, but it is highly underspecified as a file format as it is basically a result of the RGBE encoding research paper / article. But before attacking such formats, you're going to need a deeper background in HDR. :D
And interpreting HDR data is by definition subjective to the human eyes, a matter of photometry besides just radiometry. Often the data in RadianceHDR is not even radiance (radiometric quantity). White points are user set, but there's also a lot of work you need to do when interpreting HDR data, building histograms is going to be imperative to a good result. :D
 
theriphd
 
4:36 AM
Cain is such a cool looking character
 
4:52 AM
Not gonna play video gaems anymore sob
 
@CatPlusPlus have they failed you for the last time?
 
6:02 AM
@GregorMcGregor Sure, why not. Pick something like std::function<bool(key const&, key const&)>, but beware default-constructed maps :/
Something like template<…> struct erased_comparator: std::function<…> { erased_comparator() = delete; using std::function<…>::function; }; could help with that last bit.
Or a function pointer if sticking to stateless things and you care about that.
 
But then the comparator call will (probably?) not be inlined will it
 
@GregorMcGregor For more sensible erasure (i.e. operation-side, not just storage side) I’ll have to think about it though. It’s an old chestnut.
 
It's only for operations indeed (maybe my sample is not ideal)
 
Did you consider going template<typename Cont> blah on_side_continue(int which, Cont cont) { return blahblahtest ? cont(that_one_map) : cont(that_other_map); }
You’re refactoring the private implementation right?
Switching to continuation-style is what I do in those cases. The continuation receives (and is instantiated with) the map in the right branch, but since the return type is uniform that type-checks.
 
No there really are two parallel maps where storage order matters but operations on both are similar
 
6:10 AM
@GregorMcGregor I mean the get_side thing is intended to be purely internal, to avoid repeating yourself.
 
Remind me again, do you have generic lambdas?
cus the above requires a continuation functor that’s polymorphic
I actually don’t always use generic lambdas, for various reasons I also have to pollute the internal details with throwaways functors :/
 
Does MSVC2013 signify "no" enouh ;_;
 
still beats copypasta
@GregorMcGregor I wouldn’t know.
 
It means no
sadly
everything is terible
 
6:13 AM
And I don’t suppose you have Niebler-approved functors for container/map operations just laying around.
 
I'll go for lunch because 2 PM already why are you not sleeping
 
@GregorMcGregor except for that it is monday.
 
@LucDanton What are those?
 
@GregorMcGregor I’m not sleepy.
@GregorMcGregor Heh, just functors that do the thing. Instead of foo.insert(x) you’d do my_insert_functor(foo, x) which would allow you to do on_side_continue(that_side, my_insert_fuctor, x). They don’t even to actually be Niebler-style functors though lol.
Functors allow you to go higher-order. One amongst the many reasons that prove Niebler is the true prophet.
Maybe there are Phoenix actors for that sort of stuff. That way you could kill your compile-time in just a few lines of code!
 
Ell
I'm awake
but I'm a zombie
 
6:31 AM
@GregorMcGregor I’m fairly sure that’s the best you can do. Certainly for the operations that use the comparator (i.e. inserting in a map with a given comparator has to generate separate code from inserting in a map with a different one), but for those that don’t you need library/language support.
anyway, gotta run
 
> Niebler
> prophet
errr.
 
6:48 AM
go to sleep
it will be all over soon
 
2015-10-12 08:53:31.939 progress[21969:645258] Glorious Cardassian SIMD mean time on a billion samples: 0.011607 microseconds
2015-10-12 08:53:41.582 progress[21969:645258] GLM whatever mean time average on a billion samples: 0.060568 microseconds
 
A worthwhile improvement
 
7:05 AM
when are the new NVMe ssd's coming out, I need more IO
 
We all need moar IO
 
@LucDanton Got it, thanks! I'll try
 
Ell
hold the line
love isn't alwayyss on time
 
love isn't always on time?
:D
 
Ell
7:09 AM
:D
I'm in a great mood today.
How are you @ElimGarak?
 
Also p great :D
 
Ell
@Mikhail dat font tho
@ElimGarak good to hear :)
 
@Ell why
is it not Monday for you or what
 
Griwes demands an explanation :D
 
Ell
@Griwes haha
I think it's because I got up early (successfully)
 
7:11 AM
lol
 
I woke up at 5 and am so cheerful for some reason :D
 
that's still more reasons to feel miserable
especially on Monday
 
@Ell succesfully, adv.: like a zombie
 
Ell
@ElimGarak maybe it's a form of monday-denial
@sehe hehe
 
user1804599
7:21 AM
Hello, friends!
 
ohai
 
mawning, foldr!
 
Ma Flodder
 
Oooh, new episode of CSI Cyber. Time to cringe.
 
Ell
off to lectures
Talk do you all later
have a great day!
 
user1804599
7:29 AM
@sehe lol
 
hellow
 
user1804599
een
 
user1804599
7:42 AM
TIL Church–Rosser theorem
 
I prefer the Mosque-Thrash theorem
 
user1804599
XD
 
@Ell Thank you, I won't.
 
user1804599
ugh
 
user1804599
Ruby has three different ways to call a lambda. f[x], f.call(x) and f.(x).
 
7:58 AM
@elyse Let me guess. Each has subtly different semantics?
 
user1804599
No, they're identical.
 
user1804599
Well, unless you monkey-patch either of the methods but not the others.
 

« first day (1822 days earlier)      last day (3119 days later) »