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3:00 PM
@Jefffrey No custom allocator support
 
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Q: What to do when you've been thrown under the bus at the office?

user18539Recently, I was the technical architect for a well-intentioned project at work. Though the project was not well conceived, it was making slow progress toward its goal. I walked into a meeting with several executives the other day to discuss this project which started with the line, "Now, I don'...

maybe you shouldn't drive a bus indoors, duh
 
Depends if it's a PCIe bus
 
I think using the term "thrown under the bus" is far more common than "knifing". I wasn't sure from the title, even with the quotes, if you were somehow literally knifed. You may or may not have been "knifed" but I don't think we can tell from the available information here. — Mark Rogers 20 hours ago
...apparently it was even worse.
:D
 
Don't make me cut you, bitch. Go do the other project. Now.
 
that's how you get programmers to not give you bullshit excuses
 
3:06 PM
3
Q: Am I being taken advantage of? How can I ask for a raise?

TienaI have a social media internship for $11hr for a new startup company which was fine when there was another intern to help me out on duties and projects. The other intern had to quit due to school issues so it's just me now. Recently, the founder of the company asked for my input on how to further...

Given that you have a degree in PR, feel lucky you even have a job, brah.
 
Ploglamming Ranguages
 
I made a ninja generator for our project in 150 lines
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Japanese haiku!
 
If you want to avoid revenge downvotes, here's some advice: 1) Don't piss people off. 2) And if you do, don't advertise it on meta. 3) Don't post bad questions/answers. 4) And if you do, don't advertise it on meta. — Mysticial 47 secs ago
 
3:10 PM
> Crazy but quiet. Deadly vision caster. All around guy who wants to do the impossible! Make it so!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Powershell
 
Nonius' is 159, Python
A bit longer now that I added doc generation
 
Windows 10 seems pretty unstable. I don't remember having had so many problems since Windows 2000.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Don't get me wrong - I'd be glad if you made it work, because I'd be glad to see that Schurr idiot being disproven as well.
 
@Morwenn it is, but still worth it imo
 
3:13 PM
@Morwenn Really? Are you on the stable channel? 0 issues so far
 
@Morwenn I haven't had a single issue with it.
 
@GregorMcGregor I've had the "Cortana and explorer don't work anymore" critical error, the sound disappeared at least 4 or 5 times and it just crashed a few minutes ago.
 
I don't have Cortana, it's disabled in China. And no sound issues so far :o
 
@Mr.kbok I like the new task view, the console improvments and the virtual desktops :p
 
Perhaps install gentoo?
 
3:15 PM
@GregorMcGregor I have nuked Cortana.
 
@Morwenn Her ghost is haunting you your Windows!
 
I have disabled Cortana and Siri. I seriously don't see the appeal.
 
@Morwenn I have a lot of visual glitches
 
Fsck!
I give up. What was the strike through?
 
@GregorMcGregor Thank you!
 
3:17 PM
@wilx Welcome to SO, please read the faq
 
@GregorMcGregor Nah. I am too old to faq.
 
He just told you to faq off
 
IIRC wilx has like 4 kids
he faqd enough I'd say :P
 
Fokes, I'm bored and you're not entertaining me
 
good
 
3:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Cool part is that it doesn't grow much with project size - this one is 2.5gb worth of object files (don't have useful metrics handy there, sorry :D)
 
Are you not entertained
 
There's a bunch of cmakefiles around too but they are horror to maintain
 
@AlexM. Only 2 of my own.
@R.MartinhoFernandes It is entertaining how bored you are.
 
The ninja definition file is just a powershell map with include paths, project deps and few details
 
in loving memory of telkitty
 
3:22 PM
@GregorMcGregor Huh? What has happened to her?
 
did telkitty die?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I, for one, welcome the chance to entertain our (new?) robotic overlord!
 
telquitty
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@GregorMcGregor fuck her, fuck you, fuck everyone
 
She was banned and never came back
 
3:23 PM
@thecoshman Wow. A cat disguised as a pirate. I'd never had thought.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :( Too many chicken pics?
 
cock joke in 3... 2...
 
@wilx Chicken pics were in the noise level compared to other behavior.
 
user406009
@AlexM. People got mad at her for some reason.
 
> for some reason
 
user406009
3:25 PM
Supposedly she has super troll powers.
 
user406009
With the magical ability to piss people off without the rest of the chat knowing.
 
it started with pms
 
@JerryCoffin Seriously? I have never seen her do anything bad. But then again, I have not plonked even j*lf. I am a saint.
 
user406009
@wilx People claimed that she had the ability to "target" people and piss them off. Let me find the mystical quote.
 
@Lalaland Rest of chat: Lalaland, Jeffrey, Nooble :P
 
3:27 PM
@wilx Yes. She pretty routinely attacked a few specific people, for (as far as I can see) no reason except that she'd figured out what annoyed them.
 
user406009
Sep 18 at 14:35, by Mysticial
The problem with Telkitty is that she's a "subtle" harrasser. She never does any single thing that's bad enough to warrant immediate suspension. Instead, she subtly annoys all of us in minor ways at every opportunity she can get. But she knows the rules well enough to walk the fine line. IMO, she is the most toxic of all the trolls we ever had - even worse than the flaggers. (I dunno about Tina since I wasn't around for that.) Telkitty deserves to be permanently banned from the Lounge.
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@JerryCoffin Attack how? (Not that I dispute the ban. I do not care that much.)
 
Yes.
 
I'm on my phone so I can't check the standard wording atm, but I have studied that section in detail (that's what I do when I try to find flaws to "exploit").

a member of a union is not active unless initialized, just accessing accessing member with an indeterminate value is undefined behavior - object lifetime is what applies.
 
3:29 PM
@Lalaland lol. I do not see how that is not solved by plonking, since everyone plonks someone (except me, I am a saint.)
 
user406009
I don't plonk anyone either.
 
user406009
Anyways, I think it's sad that Telkitty is gone.
 
user406009
She brought a unique viewpoint to the chat.
 
@Lalaland I agree.
 
And cocks.
 
3:30 PM
lol
 
lol
 
lol
 
@Lalaland And quite a cocky one, indeed!
 
lol
 
@Columbo accessing a non-active member is of course ill-formed, but the code exploits the wording on storage. One can make similar approaches without using a union - it's just that get get pointer to the relevant storage of appropriate type is easier (less complicated) through union
 
3:30 PM
@AnalPhabet see, you can be funny too :D
thumbsup
 
@wilx If you care enough to spend some time in the transcript, you'll find many examples. If you don't care that much, I'm not going to bring them up here again.
 
user406009
Ah come on, you have to admit that this place would suck if it was a complete echo chamber.
 
@JerryCoffin I am too lazy to find them. Oh well.
 
It's not an echo chamber
 
KotOR's dialogue choices basically boil down to one choice the game designers intend for you to take and the rest of them insulting you for even trying and explaining why you must agree with them and give up on the other "choices".
 
3:31 PM
@Lalaland I don't have to admit anything of the sort.
 
@Columbo however, I have a rather rough draft of such approach back home - the underlying problem isn't what you can do with a union, it's the definition of storage + lifetime and how to can exploit that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...not an echo chamber.
 
... echo chamber
 
echo chamber
> chamber
 
I don't think it has anything to do with ganging up, echoing etc. Telkitty is a problem that has pestered the lounge since 2012. And finally it is over.
 
3:32 PM
Funny how people routinely complain about all sorts of heated arguments here and now someone tries to paint it as an echo chamber.
 
@Columbo btw, there are more scenarios such as the lambda-capture approach that are problematic in the standard (mostly underspecified)
 
echo chamber
 
> chamber
 
> ...amber
 
@Lalaland Given the ... spirited discussions that take place at times, I don't think echo chamber is the real danger.
 
3:33 PM
...ber
 
beer
 
@wilx that's interesting logic
 
I have never plonked anyone either.
 
I plonk Vermillion when he runs off on one of his tangents, also Andrey.
 
@sehe It is, isn't it! :)
 
3:35 PM
@wilx if you don't plonk bad people you encourage their behavior
what kind of saint encourages bad people
 
@GregorMcGregor So you have never watch porn with two chicks going at it?
 
not zoophile
 
@AlexM. You can just ignore them.
 
user406009
@AlexM. Plonking doesn't encourage anything. Replying does.
 
@GregorMcGregor lol, ok s/chicks/girls/
 
3:37 PM
@wilx s/girls/grills/
 
@wilx meh :<
 
@wilx Ignoring is never the solution to a problem.
 
@AlexM. Not necessarily true. If somebody truly needs discouraging, kicking is more effective than plonking.
 
@AlexM. Weakling.
@ElimGarak False.
 
You ignore cancer, you die. Yes, you're false. Correct.
 
3:38 PM
I usually only plonk obvious trolls that show up from time to time
 
If you ignore Hitler, you die
 
@AlexM. hi
 
You ignore anything, it comes back to bite you in the ass.
 
@GregorMcGregor lol
 
See, the Lounge is not an echo chamber :P
 
3:39 PM
...echo chamber
 
user406009
@ElimGarak I don't think that's how counterexamples and logic work.
 
...chamber
 
@ElimGarak Sometimes it is--most trolls will move on to "greener" pastures if they're ignored enough. The primary problem is that it's almost impossible to assure that they're ignored sufficiently. Like with spam, most need only a minuscule percentage of responses to consider it a "win".
 
user406009
Ignoring sometimes is a valid solution to a problem. Have a headache? Ignore it. Problem solved.
 
proceeds to die of dehydration
 
3:41 PM
@Lalaland Wish I could plonk my diarrhea
 
Headaches are the wrong thing to ignore
 
Date time!
First.
 
BBL.
 
Ignoring is never a solution because it is the decision to not find a solution and let whatever the problem is solve itself (like Jerry suggests). But headaches sometimes turn out to be anomalous growths that are going to kill you if ignored. Sometimes they go away, doesn't justify ignoring.
 
3:42 PM
I find it sad that we have trolls that come into the room only when they are bored. Abyx, telkitty, wilx seem to be here mainly to stir up shit. I might have forgotten someone
 
Ell
something smells of burning
 
Who's wild?
 
The Lounge is on fire, can't you see?
 
user406009
@sehe Everyone comes into here to "stir up shit". It's a chat room. We are here to chat.
 
Ignoring is literally deciding not to provide a solution and hope the problem solves itself.
 
Ell
3:43 PM
this lounge is on fiiiyarrrrrrrrrr
 
@Lalaland lies
 
@Ell black widow baby
 
@Lalaland hardly the same
 
wait wrong song
 
@Lalaland bullshit and I hope that's not how you conduct your social interactions
 
Ell
3:43 PM
@AlexM. hahaha lol
 
@ElimGarak trolls are trolling for attention and reaction. The best way to handle is not to give them what they want.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think he just means that he has mad bants
 
@TonyTheLion hi
 
@GregorMcGregor <3
 
@TonyTheLion Well then it is not ignoring really on our part, as we actively decide not to provide gratification to the troll.
:D
 
3:44 PM
@sehe Bullshit. Selective memory, etc.
 
The only troll we gratify is Cicada :)
 
Telkitty was and still is the weirdest, most persistent troll I've seen in my 2 decades on this planet.
 
@TonyTheLion I troll at times--and sometimes find it quite gratifying.
 
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	//  Nom            Type                In/Out Description
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Expiration date on trolling is one day, a week at the most. She was going strong for 3 years.
 
3:47 PM
topkek
(each method has its own block like that)
 
@Mr.kbok You might want to erase the name from that block
 
Remind me to never apply at your company
 
Ell
@Mr.kbok lol jesus
 
@Ell I'm sure Jesus had no say in this :)
 
3:48 PM
lol, non English comments
 
@TonyTheLion maybe he had a revelation!... that lead him to doing whatever the fuck that is
 
I have seen production code commented in a similar style before
 
@Mr.kbok lol
> Valeur de retour: void
 
@GregorMcGregor Oh come one--think how Productive you could be. "I wrote 20000 lines of code today". (never mind that nearly all of it was automatically generated comments telling those unaware of it, that a copy constructor is actually a copy constructor).
 
I have seen production code with if (something_bool == true) return true (else return false)
 
Ell
3:49 PM
[blocks B ] <sys-libs/ncurses-6:0 ("<sys-libs/ncurses-6:0" is blocking sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r101)
:'(
 
Albert Auguste Gabriel Hanotaux, known as Gabriel Hanotaux (19 November 1853 – 11 April 1944) was a French statesman and historian. == Biography == He was born at Beaurevoir in the département of Aisne. He studied history at the École des Chartes, and became maître de conférence in the École des Hautes Études. His political career was that of a civil servant rather than a party politician. In 1879 he entered the ministry of foreign affairs as a secretary, and rose gradually through the diplomatic service. In 1886 he was elected deputy for Aisne, but, defeated in 1889, he returned to his diplomatic...
 
user406009
@ScarletAmaranth Usually that's for debugging.
 
user406009
And then it just never gets removed due to laziness.
 
yes it's very old code
 
@Mr.kbok lol
 
3:50 PM
@ScarletAmaranth So have most of us. Shows up on SO at least once a week, for anybody who's paying attention. FWIW, this type of logic is actually good form in Verilog/VHDL. It can avoid creating a latch that would be needed if you just had something like return something_bool; or some_output = some_input.
 
Ell
using operating systems makes me want to write an operating system
 
that's my personal pet peeve; they don't do it for integers...
 
@Ell lol, says the guy who uses Gentoo as a default
 
@ScarletAmaranth can you even put parentheses around the else branch?
 
3:51 PM
@AndyProwl nah it was just a comment on the sentence, rather than syntax
 
@ElimGarak stupid bitch
 
how do you sue a 12 yo
can a 12 yo answer in a tribunal
 
'Murica
you can sue anything, the courts might not be willing to consider the case though
 
Ell
@TonyTheLion it was supposed to help with dependency problems :L
 
@AlexM. yes but they can only giggle
 
Ell
3:54 PM
why would one package block another man
 
@Ell wat
 
is package block a SFW version of cock block?
 
> Her lawsuit claims his “negligent” and “careless” show of affection caused her serious injuries and losses, noting “I was at a party recently and it was difficult to hold my hors d’oeuvres plate.”
Man, this is hilarious.
 
horse dauvraise plate
 
Ell
there are package dependency conflicts
 
3:55 PM
@JerryCoffin I'd like to say I dont' know but I had the misfortune to take a VHDL class in uni - nightmares ever since
 
Ell
gimp wants app-text/poppler-0.36.0:0/55::gentoo and libreoffice wants app-text/poppler-0.32.0:0/51::gentoo
and those two can't be installed at the same time on the same system for some reason
 
I've been deleting files today
The project where those big-ass comment blocks belong, though, is still used
 
We have an 80ms delay between the code triggers a frame to be displayed on screen and it actually being displayed.
 
She claims she still loves him and that he's great, but she simply has to sue.
 
OpenGL.
Is it plausible that the delay is introduced by the driver or something?
 
Ell
3:57 PM
Yes
 
@ElimGarak she's dumb
 
Ell
but not likely imho
but elim ofc knows more
an 80ms delay is rididdy kong
 
> rididdy kong
wat
 
And if you wonder how we measured, we used a pair of eyes and a brain :P
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was gonna say, have you tried geDebugger?
 
3:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah right youre doing the brain thing thing? - website available yet?
 
@JerryCoffin woah
 
hello
 
user406009
She's not dumb.
 
how αre you guys doing
 
3:59 PM
Triggering a frame to display, as in swapping the buffers?
 
user406009
She has to sue for the medical costs.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Really? I've rather enjoyed designing hardware now and again. Admittedly, the languages aren't the best, but I've used a lot worse too.
 
user406009
That's how the US medical system works.
 
@ElimGarak Yeah.
 

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