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3:01 PM
@chmod711telkitty you have both too much money and too much time
(assuming these are hipster hiking socks)
Ah apparently it was just something in the context. Oh well. Pretty feet
@R.MartinhoFernandes on average, they are reported to be more of a dick than the average Caucasian...
 
I can't seem to enable Asio's handler tracking feature.
I sneezed.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oooh
was going to say that was random, but then I remembered the clip
 
Sally ruined sneezing for me.
Or the opposite.
 
you learned to love it
man that show is great
¬_¬ yes, 'is'
 
3:09 PM
ooooh no
don't you start this
 
The episode with the two Johns was the best.
Cleese + Lithgow is way too good.
 
vOv they all good man
it's solid gold from start to finish
next step, raising mice underwater.... maybe with snorkles
 
@thecoshman I'm sure I've seen mice living underwater before. Prolly needed a very high oxygen pressure. I wonder if they successfully decompressed the mice, or just let them explode?
Hmm.. as I'm off on hols Thurs, this is a bad time to think about explosive decompression:(
 
3:25 PM
you are on a holiday, surrounded by the sea and sand & yet you log on here to chat us ... you could have chatted us in the comfort of your own home :p
but I understand ...
 
Who's on holiday?
 
thought Martin is?
 
i am, labour day
 
@sehe not my socks ...
 
FizzBuzz is no longer a valid way to test devs, because since @codinghorror blogged about it it looks like unis have started teaching it.
damnit jeff
 
3:34 PM
we did fizzbuzz in uni :p
 
So... no uni understood the point of the article (or the point of fizzbuzz itself).
Nice.
(Not really.)
 
It was never a valid way to test devs
 
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Q: Shortening code to 60B

killermannnnnI have a task to write a program that reads numbers and shows it in opposite order. Program breaks with new line The problem is that code must be shorter than 60B and mine is 121. Is it even possible to make this in C++ ?? #include<iostream> int main() { int g[1009],l=0; while(std::cin.peek()!=...

@CatPlusPlus No; it was a valid way to find out if testing a potential dev even makes sense.
 
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@Rapptz I finished the manga many hours ago too.
 
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It's an incomplete work, youw ere right.
 
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3:41 PM
I fucking _HATE_ incomplete works.
 
test
yay
@Shog9 the related link one should now be fixed; comments is trickier - looking — Marc Gravell ♦ 2 hours ago
 
@chmod711telkitty Not yet.
I'z bort deh Euros fer first beers
 
My coworker is just telling me how terrible everything is
 
@TonyTheLion Working with you?
 
not sure if drama or reality
@MartinJames not directly
 
3:47 PM
@TonyTheLion You work with Cat?
 
@Puppy lol
 
@Puppy I feel like I work with a version of Cat
 
How the fuck did Ashya King's parents "neglect their son"? They took him to a place where they believed he would get better treatment, which is completely within their rights. This witchhunt is just sickening. You must take your child to the medical establishment that we dictate, and subscribe to the medical treatment that we dictate, or face separation from your child and imprisonment.
 
a polymorphic cat
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit welcome to insanity
 
3:48 PM
@TonyTheLion When it was said that cats have nine lives, I always thought sequential, not concurrent.
 
@MartinJames lol
 
WTF is Ashya King? Need Google.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Find Ashya, win a PS4?
 
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I need a std::propogate_t or something for things...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes !
 
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3:53 PM
.... Or I could just save a temp variable and do it myself.
 
@MartinJames The tumour kid who "went missing"
 
I don't know why Ashya King's case made news, they must be thirsty for real news
 
ITT leaving against medical advice is a crime
 
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I'll just use a temp variable, why not.
 
'proton beam therapy' WOT?? Fucking protons? They're big, and charged.
 
3:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes holy fuck. also gif wow
 
@ThePhD std::whatnow?
 
Didn't realise twas a gif.
 
you can't completely trust the media
 
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@R.MartinhoFernandes It captures the essence of the usual advertisements.
 
that's gonna look really weird to either of those two who may happen upon the conversation in the future
 
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@melak47 Nevermind me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's like 1999 all over again
 
3:55 PM
they try to fork you, cat
 
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Oh, that's right.
 
saying they have another copy of you is working near the lion
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have FF set to animate gifs only once, so I didn't notice this thing would be flashing like crazy.
 
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@melak47 How far did you get in your DirectVG implementation?
 
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I'm trying to implement something similar myself, to remake the javascript Canvas API in C++, except without the shitting string-parsing for things like Even-Odd fill rules and stuff.
 
3:56 PM
@ThePhD uh, well it does paths and stuff. and I linked a cruddy library that triangulates filled shapes
 
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Oooh. So you collected points and then perform triangulation?
 
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But how do you construct the path stuff?
 
yeah I give it a polyline of the outline
@ThePhD splines, man
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit UK is real gud
 
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Well, I'm familiar with splines... so I guess I could roll with that.
 
3:57 PM
Hmm. This song has the plink sound in it...
WTF
 
'Proton Beam Therapy Provides Alternative to Radiation Treatment' Media.. lol! I wonder what they think comes out of the end of a fucking synchrotron?
 
Magic
 
Can you import a json file inside a json file?
 
@CatPlusPlus I mean, OK, it's a particle beam instead of gamma EM wave, but FFS..
 
3:58 PM
Probably no, just checking.
 
@Jefffrey You can do anything you implement!!!
 
@ThePhD basically, I have this
 
@CatPlusPlus I can do nothing then.
 
4:01 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't hear it
 
I'm not crazy.
 
You just got plinked while listening
 
Nope. It's always there.
"they say you are plink trouble, boy"
 
Then you're crazy
 
@melak47 You suck.
 
4:03 PM
:D
 
you named it AbstractPath (nice Hungarian there) and then it's not even abstract.
 
CAN'T FREEHAND CIRCLE SOUNDS
 
also wtf with virtual struct Path finalize() instead of just virtual Path finalize()?
 
idk :D
inline forward declaration :p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm sorry to break it to you but no, there's no plink sound.
 
4:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope
 
Or you have a very different plink sound than mine.
 
Fuck you, too.
Q_Q
 
@Puppy it's not abstract as in abstract base class, it's abstract as in not a concrete path until you call finalize. whatever
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes there's a plink like a cow bell maybe...
 
4:06 PM
> A Hacker known as "4 Chan"
lol
 
@thecoshman wat
 
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@melak47 Ah. Kinky.
 
idk, I guess I could just drop the abstractpath alltogether and just take a T& and call finalize on it :p
 
at about 2:43.5 (not too precise)
 
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@melak47 Compiletime is Besttime
 
4:08 PM
@thecoshman SEE? I AM NOT CRAZY!
 
Oh wait, I hear it.
But it's definitely not my plink sound.
That's a dull sound.
 
robor, if I am not crazy, you are definitely not crazy
 
Top Google news item 'CTV News Nude photos of many A-list celebrities leaked online'. At last, some important and meaningful information is pushing irrelevancies like the war in the Ukraine onto the back pages..
 
@MartinJames lolwut
 
@MartinJames link?
for research purposes
 
4:10 PM
Is there an attribute that makes clang and GCC error if it cannot apply TCO for recursion?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, just stupid. It's not a plink. it's a cow bell
 
Is there some secret Internet site where A-list celebrities post their nude pics and then it got hacked?
 
Also: 'Half of young women are unable to properly label a vagina on a medical diagram' - have they considered asking young men?
 
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Awh, shit
 
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Universal template parameters strike again. .-.
 
4:12 PM
?
 
..or maybe rightfold?
 
@ohmz @codinghorror I asked it in an interview early this year, and the guy said “My professor taught me this!” — and then got it wrong.
 
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 template <typename TBnd>
bounds_iterator( TBnd&& bnd, index_type i = index_type{} ) : strides( get_strides<d>( bnd ) ), idx( from_index( i, strides ) ) {}
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes iCloud apparently
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, and you are crazy.
 
4:13 PM
Who the hell stores their nude photos on iClould?
 
There's no plink in that audio
 
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I forgot to qualify bnd with some std::enable_if to prevent it from overriding the coy-constructor.
 
when was that ever a good idea?
 
@TonyTheLion CLOUD IS THE FUTURE
 
@Borgleader well, we did it more as an exercise, not "This is FizzBuzz, you gotta know it if you wanna get a job!"
 
4:13 PM
@CatPlusPlus Are you serious?
This is awesome.
 
LOCAL DISKS ARE JSUT CACHE I DONT NEED EM
 
@ThePhD oh.
:D
 
@CatPlusPlus not a plink sound no, just a cowbell
 
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@melak47 Yeah. ._.
 
@CatPlusPlus Tempted to get some sound editing software to isolate it just so I can freehand circle it.
 
4:14 PM
I liked the picture with the dick in the eye.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did that, it's not there :v
 
Fuck off.
@CatPlusPlus lol, I was kinda sorta joking, but this is too funny.
 
@MartinJames since the world is only 90% recovered from GFC, it is totally time for a world war III if we can get Russia, Japan & China jump on board ... in fact consider the timing between 1929 stock market crash & world war II, and how the way the world economics is developing, I would say chance is almost 10%-20% in the next 10 years
 
@CatPlusPlus So much for iSecurity
 
I don't know what's funnier, people trusting Apple with their homeporn or people not encrypting that shit to hell and back
 
4:17 PM
@chmod711telkitty Just after my vacation would be a good time. I would then not need to deliver anything.
 
@Borgleader Rule #1 of security: there's no security.
 
"people trusting Apple with their homeporn" sounds great.
 
dow jones index
 
@CatPlusPlus Yeah I totally see megan fox yelling "I NEED RSA ENCRYPTION ASAP"
wait
cancel that
 
@chmod711telkitty Thank you.
 
4:20 PM
rsa is not about encryption
 
Yes, it is?
 
crash 1907 - 1908, world war I started at 1914, crash 1929-1932, world II started at 1939
 
@Jefffrey I thought it was a wrist ailment.
 
@chmod711telkitty rematch scheduled for 2018?
@MartinJames no, that's Roberts Space Industries
 
4:22 PM
@melak47 7 + 2008 = 2015 ...
 
Ah, so for once I was right
 
@chmod711telkitty crash 1971, world III started at 1976, crash 1983, world IV started at 1989.
OH WAIT, NOPE.
 
"Look, I found two sets of pairs of contemporaneous data points, there must be a pattern here"
 
If this was buttcoin chart then there'd be a WW every 5 minutes
 
4:24 PM
are you guys talking about car crashes?
 
@ThePhD and here it is drawing a spline segment and tangents. completely CPU limited so far :p dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/247271563/kjhfgdxcfgjhj.png
 
those guys in Poland that use Haskell for their CUDA-based image processing tool are really doing that
like really
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Q: How to link custom object file with Haskell library

Marcin MikołajczykI've created a Haskell package that makes FFI calls to functions defined in CUDA code. I'd like to compile .cu file to an object (.o) file during package build and force linker to link it in. So far, I tried to use a technique found this question. I've customized buildHook to: run nvcc run de...

 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, from memory, there is a historical pattern here.
 
Woot, enum class T { a, b, c }; std::atomic<T> x; werks!
 
not strictly world wars, but in general, the world becomes more violent when the economy is slower.
 
4:24 PM
@Puppy There were plenty of market crashes that didn't cause world wars.
 
I have to contact them and ask them how they're doing
 
nobody wants wwiii
 
just because it's extremely interesting what they're doing in Haskell
 
except weapon resellers maybe
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Right, but there is a general correlation between perceived hard times and violence.
 
4:25 PM
@Jefffrey but wwwii is all the rage these days :p
 
Anyway, I'm not dismissing it as coincidence. I'm dismissing the extrapolation as unfounded.
 
yes, everybody is trying to inb4 wwiii
 
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@melak47 Ooh. Shiny.
 
right
and extrapolating from those few data points is definitely unfounded.
 
I should open a website where you can bet that WWIII will start within the next year and I bet against.
 
4:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes 89 one is almost nothing compare to the GFC & 1929 crash
 
Only two outcomes: either I go bankrupt, or I become a millionaire.
 
IIRC, the research I saw was comparing historical records of wars going back thousands of years with climate data (pre-industrial economy was nearly all agriculture and cooler years meant poor harvests) and there was definitely a correlation.
 
@ThePhD I imagine if I cached the triangle representation instead of recreating it every frame it'd be faster
 
Truth is that if enough people think wwiii is imminent, then wwiii will happen.
Wait no, that's not the truth.
 
71 one is not too serious either, 76 is almost as bad as the 1907 crash but not quite
 
4:29 PM
@chmod711telkitty Don't be fooled by the logarithmic scale.
@chmod711telkitty Yes, I'm pretty sure a 50% drop is not too serious.
 
I am using percentage
 
The truth is that if governments think they can gain a lot by it while containing the side effects then they'll do it.
 
(It's a 50% drop just like the 1908 you handpicked to imply as leading to the First World War)
 
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@melak47 Would have to cache command calls with their parameters and then scan if the same commands were issued.
 
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Or, just let the user specifically cache things and roll with that.
 
4:31 PM
@ThePhD ?
my thing has no concept of "commands" :p
 
just a theory, I am not an oracle, I get things wrong all the times
 
there's only spline curves.
 
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How would you know when and when not to keep old triangle representations from those spline curves you're generating?
 
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Oh, you mean just saving it side-by-side the path and not re-generating if the structs haven't been modified?
 
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... Which reminds me, I need to make a good Property implementation.
 
4:33 PM
some thing (e.g. a rounded rectangle) generates a Path. Path is a spline curve. thing generates triangles for spline curve. if Path doesn't change, I can recycle the triangles
 
@chmod711telkitty That's not what "theory" means, btw.
 
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@melak47 Kinky.
 
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Are they going to standardize std::disable_if ?
 
@chmod711telkitty The correct phrase would be "educated guess".
 
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I'm tempted to put it in the std:: namespace myself.
 
4:35 PM
@ThePhD then what'd we use boost for? :p
 
@ThePhD Don't. Why would you ever do that.
 
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@Puppy To break everyone's code ever, obviously.
 
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I hate finding little bugs in template code way at the top of my stack.
 
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Annoys the fuck out of me when I have to RECOMPILE EVERYTHING.
 
Xeo
Don't write bugs, duh
You'd think people would've learned that by now
 
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4:40 PM
Easy for an Overload Overlord like you.
 
@ThePhD In the Lounge, you are not tempted; you are templated.
6
 
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But the rest of us unnamed plebs have to triage our stuff. :c
 
@ThePhD why are shadows in UE4 so crappy ._.
 
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@melak47 They shouldn't be crappy.
 
they're like...zigzagging about
it's gross :c
 
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4:43 PM
Lel.
 
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Fuzzy Shadows taken to a whole new level.
 
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The rest fof it seems to behave okay, except that one part that shadows the edge of the bench.
 
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Could be the geometry's shit and its' not smoothed out properly?
 
idk..mayyybe it's because I'm distorting the meshes in the vertex shader....I dunno :p
 
@ThePhD Have you not noticed the guy stuck in a bench? Does not seem okay to me.
@melak47 Shadow looks like someone saluting.
 
4:46 PM
lol
 
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Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha GHC
 
There are a huge number of snails and slugs about in our garden this year. I suspect that they are all carrying one bit each for my net connection. We've put some pellets down, so I expect to be cut off completely by tomorrow:(
 
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@melak47 Yeah, they look okay here... could be an edge-case where at that specific angle with that specific viewpoint, there's fighting for the silver edge of the park bench and the top yellow edge. Who knows. vov
 
How can I look less terrible at job interviews?
 
4:47 PM
@Jefffrey clean up :p
 
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@MartinJames Buy an AK and gun them down.
 
Clean up?
 
you said you look terrible
maybe try taking a shower or something, ironing your clothes :p
 
@Fanael The bits will fly everywhere and there will be even more retries.
 
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it seems that freetype, as a library, can perform per-character transformations.
 
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4:49 PM
... With a 2x2 matrix, so they're not including translation in that mix.
 
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But, there's arbitrary scaling and all kinds of things like that.
 
@melak47 No, I meant less terrible skill wise.
 
acquire more skills
 
@Jefffrey Polish your skills.
 
or improve your skill in faking skills
 
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4:49 PM
@FredOverflow German your skills.
 
@ThePhD I don't think translation would be very useful for rendering to a bitmap
 
@melak47 Skill Acquisition Is Initiation
 
it was a dumb question indeed
 
and skill failure is no acquired employment?
 
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@CatPlusPlus True enough, I suppose, but I guess that means I have to do the translation bits meself. :(
 
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4:55 PM
std::difference_type = RandomAccessIteratorA - RandomAccessIteratorB
 
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Right?
 
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It returns a difference_type, not an iterator, no?
 
user784668
And I thought that GHC is less crap than your average PHP project. It's not.
 
@melak47 :)
@ThePhD Of course. How would the distance between two iterators be an iterator?!?
 
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Juuuuuuuuuuuuuust checkin'.
 
Xeo
4:57 PM
@FredOverflow an iterator that points into the global table of differences!
 
user784668
How do I contribute to GHC?
 
Also, iterator+iterator = type error
 

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