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9:00 PM
cut it off completely - you'll get rid of the problem
 
@Ell what the hell is that
 
@Puppy What do you mean with "protip"? I am the pro at cutting myself here.
 
@BartoszKP not helpful
 
@sehe solves the problem!
 
Protip: do not cut hand, btw.
 
Ell
9:01 PM
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Seems like I am the pro at not cutting myself, so I feel in the best position to offer advice on when to not cut yourself.
 
Rather. 1. cut head 2. tweet vid 3. ??? 4. profit
2
 
Ell
^ one of these travelling at high velocity
 
Found a small flaw in my plan.
 
"cut head \ tweet vid" sound like good lyrics for a rap song
 
9:03 PM
Once I build the bridge, I might not have time to wire it to the lever :S
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes plans are useless, planning is indispensable :v
 
Should have built this before the zombies came.
 
23:00 time for pizza!
 
it's only 22:04
still collecting movie ideas
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I presume he is in a different time zone
 
9:06 PM
@Puppy I've never cut myself either
@Ell Ah yes, that UTC+01:56 timezone
3
 
You don't know what you're missing.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's pizza time. have you seen district 9?
 
@BartoszKP no but not tonight don't know why what else
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Moon?
 
Ell
@LightnessRacesinOrbit austin powers?
 
Xeo
9:09 PM
Well, as for the ALS Challenge, luckily I have vacation tomorrow and on Friday. :D
 
@BartoszKP seen it
@Ell no
ALS challenge: see if you can pour ALS on your head
 
Ell
I love austin powers
 
@Xeo ergh... that's not coming here
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Matrix
 
@Xeo youtube.com/watch?v=Ju5VxyM3S4o that's a reasonable answer (was posted here yesterday iirc)
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Primer?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum I loaded it on my laptop and it works perfectly
 
Xeo
9:12 PM
@BartoszKP Nice
 
it was either a bug in GHC on my platform is misconfigured
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... It's an "Ice Bucket Challenge". See how can poor the most ice buckets on his head
 
@sehe actually, many idiots do end up being hit by a basket in the head :v
 
I'm so lucky. Every time I lose rep from a user being removed, it's only 5-10 rep
 
@sehe I see
@thecoshman nah
@BartoszKP gave up on that after #4
 
9:17 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well what sort of thing you after? "Two BangCocks" sort of film?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit i == ideas.end()
 
'How to train your dragon'
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit a bit of tit
 
9:19 PM
Also woo faceting works
 
maybe I should try to find the new X-Men
 
rock some cock
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
(Serious suggestion btw, it's p great)
 
lube some boob
 
9:19 PM
@CatPlusPlus Didn't know woo faceting was a thing
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit, Mr Nobody?
 
yeah
> Dear Bartosz,
>
> Thank you for email.
>
> You may use (1) DILBERT carton in your presentation.
 
:lol:
 
btw, any one like dungeon crawling board games? kickstarter (already backed)
 
@Griwes that sounds quite good
@BartoszKP wow you asked
 
9:22 PM
the policy on their website wasn't clear in conference context
 
Damn. Those memories. Eine Kleine Nachtmusisk is really not that boring if you hear that we could actually play this shit really decently. I'm impressed. This bound to be around ~76+16 = `92
 
and I never had a chance to use "used with permission" before! :D
 
Also. Who made these recordings. I can't remember ever hearing those before.
@BartoszKP A carton?
 
@sehe I've decided it will be better than a mathematical formula :0
 
 
9:24 PM
oh, lol, now I get it
FUNNY
 
Ell
It's dilbong
 
@BartoszKP hehe
 
-1
Q: >>>>>topic closed<<<<<

Python GuyNEVER MIND, JUST FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER

So many badlets
 
-1
Q: Error I Can't Understand (C++)

Colby Ryan FreemanI'm only 14, so there may be some problems or inefficient parts in my code. I've always been able to fix every error I've had, even by searching for it on the internet... but this one is weird. I get these errors every time I run it in Visual Studio 2013: c:\program files (x86)\microsoft visual...

^^ goto
 
awwwww bless him
 
Ell
9:29 PM
@Mysticial ohmygod
 
"but when i run it an online compiler it says can't find 'windows.h'"
 
Holy shit
 
user3010322
Wow.
 
user3010322
I wrote an angry comment.
 
0
A: Is it REALLY true that Python code runs faster in a function?

Python GuyOkay, I ran some Python code to figure it out. Here it is: from threading import Thread def print_hello(): print('hello') a = Thread(target = print_hello) b = Thread(target = print, args = ('bye')) b.start() a.start() a.join() b.join() This returns: bhello y e Okay, so why does b come f...

 
user3010322
9:29 PM
I'm not sure if I should check it in or not.
 
Read it all
It's amazing
 
Ell
haha
it's pretty funny
 
I'm like 12 rep of 3k and being about to do something I'm sure...
 
pje
code looks solid to me. ship it!
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
9:31 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :)
 
Ell
I have no idea how to find a programming job!
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: You see here that thread a only printed one letter, H, between b and y. The function printed 5 letters between b and y! That means functions are 5 TIMES FASTER than normal code! [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
¬_¬ I hate that I keep slipping 'like' into sentences like that. I am fully aware of potential irony, but I didn't use 'like' like I did back there.
 
Ell
I just want a list of c++ places near me :P
so I can apply
I can't even find a job to apply to >.<
all I can find is .net web developer jobs and CNC operator jobs
 
@CatPlusPlus #quailty
 
user3010322
9:33 PM
Anyone know how, in the VS debugger, to see the return type automatically in the "Locals" or "Auto" window?
 
@ell you uk?
 
Ell
@thecoshman yup :)
 
IDEOne is (probably) not running under Windows, so there's no Windows.h available so you get that error there. But why do you need it anyway? Also, for Windows console programs, check out conio.h instead of using system to call external programs to do stuff. — hyde 1 min ago
 
@Ell ... I did have a link that would be handy for you right here and now... but you know how those thing flitter aware
 
KILL HIM WITH FIRE
 
9:34 PM
@thecoshman "threads that are executing" what do you mean? :0 (in the comment)
 
Ell
@thecoshman Ahh okay :)
I guess it's very location dependent as well
 
@BartoszKP he results are explain by threads simply not running
 
Lancaster bomber, 4.4%
 
@thecoshman but they are, start is called ;0
 
9:36 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Whoa. I actually voted to close that?
I didn't even notice.
 
@BartoszKP not all threads run at the same all the time
 
@thecoshman well I know that this code is shit, but the threads are being executed
 
@BartoszKP you can't say what thread is executing when
 
what's Edge of Tomorrow like?
 
Fuck threads, stacks, queues, signals, mutexes, semaphores and Graham the bingo caller.
 
9:40 PM
@thecoshman but you can say that they are being executed = you shouldn't suggest that they are not being executed (or I misunderstood your comment)
 
@BartoszKP I am taking the piss
 
@thecoshman : D
 
@thecoshman I find that leaving it in the bathroom works better than taking it.
 
ok
fuck I forgot about the oven
:#
 
Ell
@BartoszKP uh oh
 
9:42 PM
@BartoszKP Cheers.
 
@JerryCoffin it's hard to throw it over people if I leave it there though
 
@thecoshman So somebody's convinced you to pour piss over your head for the ice bucket challenge? You're right--you do need to save it up to do that.
 
my coroutine handling sucks :V
the oven is async but I failed to switch the context when it was ready :v
 
@JerryCoffin I am not people! How very dare you!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Some are pretty accurate. "Corrupt, unintelligible backup belgians" - check :) Also, yeah, the change in road quality when going from NL to BE is quite dramatic yes. But, away from the highways, I don't mind it.
@ThePhD And then you wisely erased it before submitting it
@BartoszKP Is that a PStade oven?
 
user3010322
9:48 PM
@sehe Oh no, it's still there.
 
user3010322
I'm going to check it in.
 
I knew
 
@sehe don't know what it is, but its website looks 90s or even 80s
or 70s
 
Most of "oven" is now in Boost (Range mostly, AFAIR)
 
@thecoshman Oh, sorry. Pimple. My mistake.
 
9:50 PM
a pimp? :o
 
> hemorrhoids as large as tomatoes
 
@ThePhD You can't say that and not post it
 
0
Q: Broken Oven Keypad

user1742419SOLVED! The keypad is broken so the input numbers 1, 4, and 7 aren't working. In turn the computer outputs the next lowest and next highest number where 1, 4, and 7 are none of the digits. My goal is to check out the digits and output true using a boolean function and then output the next ...

 
@BartoszKP Only if he can get the women to stop laughing at him for at least a minute or two.
 
9:52 PM
@JerryCoffin iirc pimps manage that with slapping ;0
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus I won't post it here until it passes code review. (Or until it fails code review.)
 
@BartoszKP Doesn't work so well when they slap him back twice as hard.
 
@JerryCoffin didn't thought about it, that indeed might be a problem. Perhaps then not pimp, but just python package index?
 
@BartoszKP only bad pimps slap. Good pimps just need to threaten
 
9:56 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But, but, Microsoft documentation suggests system("cls");, as I just discovered! And it would go so well with system("pause");, too! ;) — hyde 6 mins ago
I think you all know where my comment links to.
 
@BartoszKP Hmm...doesn't sound quite fitting for a pirate. Needs more...theft.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Poor Lightness. Doesn't realize he's been trolled.
 
Doesn't want to realize
It's much more fun to always retaliate
 
@JerryCoffin well, pip is something from which people steal packages constantly ;0
@thecoshman that makes gimp, the shitty image editor
 
@sehe He combines obsessive-compulsive disorder with passive-aggressive disorder, giving obsessive aggressive disorder.
 
user3010322
Is tehre a JSON formatter anywhere?
 
10:01 PM
@ThePhD No. No such thing exists.
 
@ThePhD I am. Give me anything and I'll format that for ya
 
user3010322
Mm.
 
{ "Mm": "Mm." }
good, yes?
 
@BartoszKP Better.
 
finally, I think I got it
@JerryCoffin I'm a 3-pass formatter
 
10:04 PM
@BartoszKP Thanks, but I think I'll pass on your formatter.
 
Do you think it's "evil" to use single-letter names for variables that have very small scope?
 
@JerryCoffin :( you'll be back, and I won't be for free then.
 
E.g:
int string_to_int(const std::string& s)
{
    int n = 0;
    std::istringstream iss(s);
    iss >> n;
    return n;
}
 
@StackedCrooked no, it's fine
the smaller the scope, the shorter the name can be
 
@BartoszKP o_0
 
10:05 PM
@BartoszKP that's what I think
Two letters for global scope.
 
wooo
I have real state
 
@StackedCrooked : D
 
my game can has units
 
@StackedCrooked No. Not a problem at all.
 
@StackedCrooked however in this case I'd use result to improve elegance :F
 
10:06 PM
@BartoszKP For one-line scopes you have to use zero-length variable names
 
@CatPlusPlus and for zero-line scopes -1-length
 
one-letter names are p common in Haskell
 
@BartoszKP I agree. (I very often use "result".)
 
@StackedCrooked Of course, (if you can) you're better off with std::stoi or Boost lexical_cast instead of writing your own.
 
altough lenses kinda move this overboard
(.~) :: Setting a b c d -> d -> a -> b
 
10:08 PM
@JerryCoffin no I demand to do it like this
:)
 
@StackedCrooked I remand the decision for re-thinking.
 
Only if you give me one of your virgins.
 
user3010322
Anyone ever deserialize JSON in C#?
 
@StackedCrooked Oh, all right. Keep an eye on your incoming deliveries.
 
user3010322
I could use some pointers, I think.
 
10:10 PM
@ThePhD Yes
 
@ThePhD NULL
 
A lot of people actually
 
@ThePhD Definitely use references instead.
 
@CatPlusPlus :lol:
btw ghci step-by-step debugging is pretty nice
not that you need it often but still
 
Use Json.NET and boom
 
Xeo
10:11 PM
 
he can turn a working package into an unworking mess
 
JsonConvert.DeserializeObject<T>(json); is literally all you need
 
I deleted the message, because my net got off, and it arrived like 10 seconds late :E
 
user3010322
Oh.
 
user3010322
Json.NET.
 
10:12 PM
hm
 
user3010322
I was using System.Serialization.Runtime
 
I could use MonadState instance
 
user3010322
Guess I should get up on that Json.NET
 
System.Serialization sucks
 
user3010322
Probably behaves better too.
 
10:13 PM
DataContract stuff also
 
user3010322
also... sucks?
 
what's the minimal definition for MonadState?
just modify?
 
modify is not part of the class
You need both get and put
 
oh fuck
so put and get.
yeah.
 
lol, Qt for Python really sucks
 
10:16 PM
why would you... uh
 
Which Qt for Python
 
it behaves differently not only on different platforms, but even across minor versions :v
pyqt
 
get = ask >>= liftIO . reatTVarIO >>= return :3
 
PyQt is GPL-only anyway, don't use it
 
I use it for programming classes
 
10:17 PM
PySide is better
 
well, hopefully not anymore, I need something else apparently
omg
I threw a coin when I had to choose between pyqt and pyside
:|
 
What does it means that a code is "re-entrant"?
 
And GTK3 is even better :v
Reentrant or re-entrant can refer to: Reentrancy (computing) in computer programming Reentrant mutex in computer science Reentry (neural circuitry) in neuroscience Salients, re-entrants and pockets in military tactics Reentrant tuning in music Concavity in a polygon Draw (terrain), the low ground formed between two hill spurs, also known as a re-entrant. == See also == Reentry Reentrant dysrhythmia, a type of cardiac arrhythmia...
 
@Jefffrey that you can enter the function more than once before previous executions are finished
simplest case: recursive function
 
Ell
I don't think GPL is that bad
 
10:20 PM
@BartoszKP I see
0
Q: Is there any way to test if a C++ API (on ubuntu linux) is re-entrant?

Andrew S.I have inherited a large body of code from developers long departed from the company. Do methods exist that will let me test if the code is re-entrant, short of reading through it? I want to run the apis in multiple threads but aren't 100% sure if the code is re-entrant.

 
@Ell exactly it's worse
 
This question seem interesting then
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz I don't see why it's bad for something that is free and will remain free
 
It's icky
 
@Ell because it's a fucking virus license?
 
10:20 PM
And just completely terrible for libraries
 
it's not free
 
You can't use it in a more permissive licensed software
 
it's like completely opposite of free
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz Not quite the opposite :P
I understand that there are more free licenses
 
gtg, good night all
 
Ell
10:21 PM
but to say it's the opposite is quite silly imho
@BartoszKP night
 
@Ell there are just free licenses
and there's GPL
 
Ell
you have freedom to redistribute source and modify etc.
is that not some freedom? :P
versus a typical proprietary software which doesn't allow you to do anything but use it
 
at least they don't try to gag me with their freedom
 
I'm dropping in here to see if @sbi is really grumpy. And that is all.
;)
 
No I have outgrumped him long ago
 
Ell
10:25 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what? :P
 
@CatPlusPlus not really
 
user3010322
._.
 
user3010322
This is a combination of the DataContract serializer being off its fucking rocker
 
user3010322
and just this team producing crap data.
 
user3010322
And both are coming together to make my life miserable.
 
user3010322
10:26 PM
I FIGURED IT OUT, THOUGH.
 
user3010322
// Ticketing wants the D
await this.GetAsync<JsonD<JsonRoot<User[]>>>
 
user3010322
^ I'm checking this in.
 
Ell
@bartek they gag you with their lack of
 
You don't get the freedom to choose either way
 
10:36 PM
wut
 
installing Lens yay
 
user3010322
Lens?
 
haskell
 
yes Lens
what the fuck does need explaining in "installing Lens"
oke
let's see if I broke anything
ugh
 
What NRA tweets while shooting of instructor by 9-yr-old is front page news: http://bbc.in/XTnAlM http://t.co/mPImVpSb8D
:laffo:
 
10:42 PM
At least two most vexing parse questions in the last 24 hours
 
so I broke everything
 
sounds good!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What are the challenges a woman as to face while entering the tech industry? Also you should partecipate in this thing.
 
ah that looks like new version of scotty
why can't I have older and newer versions at the same time uh
 
Is it so hard to accept that maybe women are just naturally more attracted to social jobs rather than technical jobs and viceversa for males?
And that maybe that's why there aren't many of them?
 
10:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus THIS IS A CLICKBAIT TITLE AND I WILL NOT ACCEPT IT!
</rant>
 
@Jefffrey haha
 
@Jefffrey I'm not!
 
> We really don't know what happened.
 
hahah, closed
 
Also women face challenges? IME, in my uni, the few women I've met are actually worshipped by everyone.
 
10:48 PM
@Jefffrey What's more likely, this, or that industry is shit
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Ell
@jefffrey hmm. I don't like this.
 
I just can't see all these challenges tbh, and I'm curious about them.
 
Ell
Oh well
 
@Jefffrey that's one of the challenges.
 
  -- Template haskell is special: the compiler will die if a
  -- version other than the one that is shipped with the compiler
  -- is used. Here, we don't constrain the version and hope that
  -- there will be only one.
  template-haskell
 
10:50 PM
Being popular is a challenge?
 
seriously though
 
People would pay to be popular.
 
Ell
Some would pay to be unpopular
 
@Jefffrey From what little I've seen of the US tech culture it's pretty widespread there, because US society is 50 years behind everyone else's
 
@Jefffrey no, people not treating you like a person when you are also just trying to do your job.
 
Ell
10:51 PM
But yeah most wouldn't
 
at home I never see this so-called "discrimination" either
 
Ell
Idk it doesn't matter though
 
that meta initiative is a HUGE pile of gender-based discrimination and I won't stand for it
 
@thecoshman Who says people are not treating them like persons?
 
Anecdotal. I had three women in my last MsC class. Two of them were the laziest mofos I've seen since I was weened off my mothers breast.
 
Ell
10:51 PM
If they want to open a sexist competition that's fine
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't see it either, but I do see the clear difference in numbers.
 
Ell
That's their business
 
the broken conduit dependency was removed 16 hours ago
 
Ell
I'm not entitled to anything from them
 
10:51 PM
> the few women I've met are actually worshipped by everyone.
 
@HostileFork: They already do have to aim higher. How many incompetent programmers have you worked with? How many of them were women? — tmyklebu 3 hours ago
 
I suppose it might not yet be on hackage hmpfh
 
They have tits, yes, now get over it
 
@thecoshman Yes, that means they are seen as a good thing and everybody likes them.
 
10:52 PM
why the fuck do people constrain upper library versions @Cat
 
@thecoshman You are putting words in my mouth.
 
@BartekBanachewicz To avoid API breakages
 
@thecoshman Tech males tend to be shy, so I don't really see all that pig stuff.
 
@Jefffrey unless they are great academically, they can fuck of just like every one else.
 
Look at all those idiot mods saying they're "embarrassed" by the comments, followed by a high-and-mighty diatribe about how they must be forward-thinking and everyone else is just sexist. Typical reaction of those who don't understand when they are committing reverse discrimination.
 
10:53 PM
That people are bad at semver is well
 
@Jefffrey your own words
 
@CatPlusPlus that.
 
@thecoshman I've never mentioned tits or even the sexual part of the women in question.
I've simply stated that people tend to like them and be friendly with them. That's all.
Not pig friendly, just friendly.
 
exceptions-0.6.1 (reinstall) changes: mtl-2.2.1 -> 2.1.2, transformers-0.4.1.0
-> 0.3.0.0
ffs
that's the git version
 
Speaking on behalf of the IE team, we don't hate you :) — Jonathan Sampson 2 hours ago
KILL HIM
 
10:55 PM
Also this video is p interesting. It tries to give an explanation to the reason why some jobs have more males / females and why is that.
 
I have 0.6.1
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit We all live in a bubble. It is how we choose to interact with the outside of our bubble that defines our progression.
 
what the fuck is not ok for you
 
@Jefffrey tl;dw
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... I'd like to hope that he wasn't involved in the creation of IE, only the making it a little less crappier part.
 
Ell
10:58 PM
It is a shame that any unnecessary discrimination occurs
 
@BartekBanachewicz It lists changes
 
fucking shit
 
You butte
 
@thecoshman He go talk to a professor in some huge university (I don't remember the name, lemme check the video again) and he says they made few tests on 1-day-old kids that consisted in placing them in a room with "boy toys" and "girls toys" and see how much time they spent playing with one of the other.
The result was that men clearly spent more time playing with "boy toys" and girls with "girl toys".
 
@SecondRikudo - If there was 16 males, I assume the same conversation with the majority male voices dominating the discussion with the minority female voices would occour. It's always funny to watch the privledged majority get all uppity as you have here when their privledge is just slightly challenged. — Twelfth 1 hour ago
lol
 
10:58 PM
@Jefffrey ... 1 day old kids?
 
wah wah wah check your privilege wah wah everything you're saying is only cos you're male wah wah i'm not sexist though wah wah wah
 
@Jefffrey :laffo: yeah 1-day-old kids are SO VERY FUCKING AWARE
 
@CatPlusPlus it looks like Lens wants exception 0.6.1 with mtl 2.2.1 and transformers 0.4.1, and scotty wants something that also wants exception 0.6.1 but with mtl 2.1.2 and transformers 0.3.0
 
@hichris123 Yes, they didn't want culture to interfere.
 
@Jefffrey ¬_¬ last I checked, 1-day old kids don't move around much
 
10:59 PM
is that even possible?
 
@thecoshman that.
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
user3010322
If I deserialize with JSON.Net
 
@CatPlusPlus hint: that's the idea, test them before social expectations are placed in their wee heads
 
There's dumb studies and it's one of those
 
user3010322
10:59 PM
And I have derived types (which I do)
 

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