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10:00 PM
 
@JerryCoffin Not really.
Unless you're including water.
But even then I wouldn't say it's "low"
Unless Alex is a pretty fat man
 
It's not a bad song. And that's because Milli didn't sing.
 
All videos are lip synced though
 
True that. I shall retract my statement.
 
@Rapptz Yes, most are. The difference is that in most cases it's somebody lip-syncing to a track they recorded separately. In this case, the people winning the awards and such had essentially nothing to do with creating the music at all.
 
Ell
10:03 PM
I can't remember if c++ has goto
 
@Ell Just as well to forget it even though if it does.
 
Ell
I was just wondering how it could work. Is the stack frame preserved, does raii happen etc.
 
> Suits By, Against Milli Vanilli Remain : Courts: More than lip service may be paid when lingering legal claims against Pilatus, Morvan, their producer and record company are resolved.
dat pun
 
@JerryCoffin Just goes to show that the ability to sing is redundant.
 
Ell
It's not redundant
In society in general anyway
Maybe for making money
 
10:06 PM
@Ell Yes. It's illegal to jump over a constructor and if you jump over a scope, the destructors are called as normal.
 
@Ell Can only be done inside a single function, and can't enter a new scope where there are new (initialized) variables.
 
> "I think they're dirty scumbuckets," said 9-year-old Katie Dickman of Richmond, Ind. "I used to like them, but not now."
 
dickman? owch.
 
> "I only had one guy who called and demanded his money back," said a clerk at Tower Records in Hollywood.
lol
That was two years after the fact.
 
@StackedCrooked At the risk of sounding arrogant and conceited, it was crappy enough music that (IMO) anybody who bought it in the first place was probably too stupid to realize or care.
 
10:10 PM
Jerry so conceited
TBH I can't imagine going to the shop to buy that song.
 
> Pragmatic D Tutorial
everyone has to be pragmatic nowadays
 
I still feel stupid for buying a Jamiroquai album in 2002.
 
Xeo
@Mysticial ♥
 
btw @Xeo did you get into hyouka yet?
 
10:13 PM
Jul 19 at 8:13, by Alex M.
the main characters raised the bar so high for me that any other characters in other animes I watched feel like empty shells
minus eru
she was the most annoying bag of crap I've ever seen
satoshi was the best character there
hell, the best character in any anime I've seen
it's a pity he and ibara weren't main chars
but I guess satoshi has to be a secondary char to understand his problems
 
I'm rewatching Durarara.
@AlexM. satoshi has fucking problems
 
yeah
I can sorta relate to him in some ways
 
My friend thinks I'm negative because I've only given 17 anime an 8/10 or higher on MAL.
 
lol
 
Xeo
I don't rate anime on MAL
 
10:17 PM
That's so cool.
I only filled in my top 5 anime list.
 
the people I know think I'm constantly programming because I want to become some awesome programmer or something
 
And I started an unmaintained list.
 
while in reality it's more because I hate the fact that there are others better than me
 
@StackedCrooked Hmm...thinking back on music from that time, I wonder about how a friend of mine feels about buying Kylie Minogue's CD just because he thought she was hot as hell (but never seemed to care much about the music at all).
 
it's around that idea, everything
 
10:19 PM
there will always be others better than you, like me.
 
The only anime (not movie or OVA) I've given a 10/10 to is apparently FMA: Brotherhood :v
 
Xeo
FMA was so good
 
@JerryCoffin Wait a moment, I'm not familiar with this. Buy... a CD?
 
@JerryCoffin I suppose he couldn't get her out of his head.
 
Ell
Why do you hate that there are people better than you? It means you can always learn. Learning is the fun part. If you were the best you'd have to teach, and that sucks.
 
10:19 PM
there will always be people better than you too
 
@Xeo I use anime-planet lol
mainly because I remembered that I had an account there since 2007
 
@Puppy Yes, young'un. At one time people bought recordings as physical artifacts.
 
> Yay posting a comment on my own page :D lol ^_^

Dec 20, 2007
 
@Ell It'll be just fine if I succeed in convincing people to pay me for it.
 
Wow man.
Almost went full weaboo there.
 
10:20 PM
MAL is nice, except I don't trust their programmers.
 
@StackedCrooked Since all he seemed to care about was the picture, I just wondered why he didn't get a poster with a lot bigger picture for half the price (but yeah, allusion noted, if ignored).
 
@Ell I don't know
I can't trace my past far enough to find the source of my drive
but it keeps me going
so I don't want to mess with it
 
@JerryCoffin Huh. It's a story I'll tell my children. "When Daddy was growing up, it was so primitive, people paid for physical recordings. Insane, right?".
 
@Rapptz I liked it, but it's not in my personal top 10.
 
Xeo
Damn restarting is so fucking fast
 
10:21 PM
apparently I only watched 3 weeks+ of anime in my life anime-planet.com/users/patrunjelu
 
We call that "rebooting"
 
I'm softcore
 
@JerryCoffin Because higher price made it seem more valuable..?
 
that's disappointing. Seems like a stupid thing to do. These questions get asked all the time, and putting the discussions in a place where they can't be archived and searched just seems dumb. Plus, the odds of someone seeing and responding to the question are much lower. I'm just gonna ask my question on SO anyways. — matthew_360 1 min ago
^^ aha
 
@AlexM. Pretty casual there bud.
 
10:22 PM
@Puppy FWIW, I not only have a few hundred (or so) CDs, but also still have a fair number of recordings on vinyl...
 
ikr
 
Anyway, gotta go. Later.
 
I'm mainstream
usually I watch anime if the art is good and characters look cute
and that's about it
 
One of the anime I watch is already 3 weeks+ in terms of time
 
Xeo
@Rapptz whatever
 
10:23 PM
@Xeo :3
I haven't gotten my rig yet.
I haven't even bought it
 
I ordered two CDs from Hot Griselda yesterday. But I realized now that I don't have a CD player anymore.
 
Computers can't play CDs anymore?
 
But then I figured that I still have a CD player from my previous iMac. (Which was broken but got repaired warrantee.)
 
A lot of laptops leave them out now a days
to make them thinner
 
I didn't get this
 
10:26 PM
My next build probably won't have an optical drive. If possible I'll go USB.
 
@Mysticial New iMac's selling point is thinness. This killed the CD player.
 
who wrote the text behind the note
which one is real
are they both real
it's supposed to be a lulzy pic
 
I couldn't even see that there was text.
 
It's just a dream.
 
user1804599
10:28 PM
@AlexM. It’d be better to put the original note there.
 
@StackedCrooked didn't usb sticks and stuff kill the CD player?
 
@AlexM. It killed itself by being shit.
 
I have used CDs to submit a project to a class this semester
 
@Mysticial My last build didn't have one. Initial installation was a little more difficult, but have hardly noticed since.
 
BECAUSE OF COURSE EMAILING IT WOULDN'T WORK
 
10:30 PM
I bought a 16 GB USB 3 flash drive just for installation purposes.
 
@StackedCrooked Compared to USB sticks and stuff.
 
@AlexM. I'm just left wondering how "we're not going to make you pay for parking today" could cause somebody an inconvenience.
 
I was sorta looking more at the text behind
that's clearly stating that there is another machine that should be used instead
 
user1804599
I like this separation of formatting and putting things in the correct place: gist.github.com/rightfold/7fdde509cb18571a6fcb
 
yes please
 
10:33 PM
@JerryCoffin Does the BIOS not check the USBs to see if there is an OS to boot from?
 
@Borgleader I saw something like a semi-official announcement for kotor 3 today but I forgot where
 
I've done a few USB installations of Ubuntu. But not for Windows.
 
@AlexM. I dont want Kotor 3 (they'll probably fuck it up anyway), just gimme an HD remake of 1 & 2
 
@Mysticial Installing Win from usb was np for me
 
10:35 PM
I never really liked star wars :(
 
Neither did I.
I couldn't stand Chewbacca's moaning.
 
to me it looked too primitive for a SF
 
@JohanLarsson Did you just copy/paste the .iso into a USB?
 
cyberpunk is my kind of SF
 
@AlexM. I think you listened to Queen a bit to omuch
 
10:36 PM
@Mysticial Windows comes with a USB installer, iirc anyway.
 
@Mysticial It does. The inconvenience was in setting up a USB to boot from. That was pretty easy once I realized that Microsoft's tools for the job were painful and worthless, but others worked quite nicely.
 
@sehe why?
 
Fev
hello , yohoho
 
@Mysticial I think there was a download for bootable usb, don't remember exactly but it was not much pain or I was lucky.
 
10:37 PM
@AlexM. My kind of SF is good SF.
:P
 
@EtiennedeMartel 's office
 
@JohanLarsson Dammit. So it's a completely separate download.
 
@AlexM. or you like bicycle races {mildly nsfw}
 
user1804599
Servlet stuff works surprisingly nicely.
 
@Borgleader there are printers
 
10:39 PM
@Mysticial Don't remember.
 
@StackedCrooked yeah so?
 
Well, it's still at least a year before my next (planned) build. I'm sure things will change by then. I'm probably gonna be forced to go Win8 since I doubt MS will add AVX512 support into Win7.
 
I'll probably dual boot for my next build.
 
@Mysticial Hold out till Windows 9!
 
I've always dual booted so might as well keep doing it
 
10:40 PM
Dual booting is annoying
 
I'm used to it.
 
I reboot my computer a few times a year.
 
Too disruptive
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Same :D
 
@sehe okay, my slow parser finished youtube.com/watch?v=v0nQiiES9_I
 
10:41 PM
I guess you're a VM kind of guy
 
I reboot my Linux laptop a lot though. I even bound the print-screen button to instant reboot.
 
user1804599
Print screen is such a useless button.
 
@Borgleader I'm not convinced that Win9 is gonna look any better than Win8.
 
Ell
God dammit fuck me someone ate my sandwich ahh
 
@Mysticial It might have new interesting features 8 doesn't though
 
10:42 PM
@StackedCrooked Why not scroll-lock?
 
Win9 will probably be the same ugly as fuck metro piece of shit in the wall.
 
Ell
Is it that much to ask for my sandwich to be kept alone
 
Oh, maybe they'll replace NTFS :)
 
Ell
Geese
 
user1804599
Gease
 
10:43 PM
@Borgleader lol
 
@Borgleader That I believe. Because NTFS has been successfully reverse-engineered and MS doesn't like that.
 
@Mysticial The real motivation behind Metro: "Everybody finally has hardware that can run XP eye candy easily. We'd better quit using it completely, and go back to the Windows 2.1 look and feel."
 
user1804599
Proprietary badware.
 
I didn't think metro was particularly ugly.
 
10:45 PM
I don't like the full screen apps thing though.
 
@Mysticial Random thought, I was looking at some news on the Mill architecture during lunch, did you ever get to watching that youtube video or is it still in your immense list of things to watch? (My brain has a knack for remembering random details, and/or making them up)
 
And it's really instant reboot.
 
@Rapptz I do. It's ugly as a child aiming his ass in the air and spraying shit on the walls that make even Anime look tame.
 
@StackedCrooked Ah. print-screen is pretty useful
For taking old-style screenshots anyway
 
@Borgleader I read about it - not sure if I saw the video. I'm not convinced it'll take over any time soon if at all.
 
10:46 PM
I like flat design :<
It looks decent
Not a fan of chrome-y things
 
Ell
I like windows 8 appearance
 
Xeo
I like Win 8
 
user3010322
I just hope they get the start menu right.
 
I could do without the whole full screen thing
and bring back start menu
and remove ribbon UI
 
Xeo
I couldn't care less about the start menu
just gimme quicksearch on winkey and I'm happy
 
10:48 PM
They need to bring back the Aero and transparency.
I also like the old task manager.
 
Xeo
meh Aero
 
meh Aero
 
user1804599
meh Aero
 
Aero still exists
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Wat
 
10:48 PM
the new task manager is amazing
 
Xeo
The new one is way superior
 
Just not Aero Glass
 
@Mysticial Yeah, I would be surprised to see it in consumer things before eh, another 5 yrs, although I was thinking it would be nice if the Kickstarted a Raspberry-Pi like model of the thing. Something cheap and easy to produce that people could play around with.
 
> Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor launching five days early
 
user1804599
i3 default theme looks fine.
 
10:48 PM
whoa, a game launching earlier rather than later
 
user1804599
And requires 0% video card, 0% CPU and 0% RAM.
 
user1804599
And it’s more usable!
 
user1804599
Win win win win win!
 
Ell
I like i3 also
 
Win8 would just be a lot better if desktop users had the option to have apps contained within normal windows
 
10:49 PM
kinda reminds me of the situation in communist romania where everything was done earlier than anticipated
 
Voodoo2 still best card.
 
research X was finished a year earlier
the first car was built a year earlier
 
Ell
Apart from I don't know how to get a GUI file manager to work
 
user1804599
Win8 would just be a lot better if it were fully POSIX-compliant and shipped with i3.
 
just to make people think there's some sort of real progress going on
 
user1804599
10:50 PM
@Ell Z shell with coreutils = best file manager.
 
Ell
Man communism is terrible
@rightfold I use fish
 
user1804599
@Ell Why?
 
Ell
Or mc if Im feeling gluttonous
 
@Ell only for those not leading
 
Ell
Because it's easy to use and quick to use
And pretty
 
10:51 PM
@Ell You might be confusing communism with something else btw
 
totalitarian != communism
 
It's a relatively common mistake
 
open source is pretty close to the gist of communism I think
 
user1804599
I think communism doesn’t map well to the way people work.
 
You might be thinking of Marxism-Leninism.
 
10:52 PM
@StackedCrooked @Fev there can only be one Luffy.
FIGHT!
 
Ell
Is communism where people are supposed to be equal?
And no private property
 
so... that data I work with is returned via a generic Object getAttribute(String name) style syntax, more or less reading data from like a map<string, Object>. Whilst coding against these, I know that a given attribute is of a given type, so I know I can cast the attribute to a String[] for example. I was thinking though... would it be worth wrapping that so I have function sort of like public <T extends Object> getAttribute(final String attrName, Class<T> type)...
 
user1804599
Thinking that people are equal is a retarded idea.
 
@Ell That's socialism.
 
user1804599
There are no two equal people.
 
10:52 PM
@Ell At first I read. "And not private property" xD
 
being the leader of a state and not turning yourself into a dictator is lame
it's like cutting half of your power
 
@Ell That's egalitarian.
 
being an unofficial dictator like putin is probably best
 
Ell
What is communism?
 
this function would perform a type check for me, and throw an exception if the attribute was not the type I said it would be. It can also look up the meta data and tell me what type it actually is...
the alternative is having to mess around with type casting more explicitly
 
user1804599
10:53 PM
@Ell Lack of ownership; produce what you are able to produce and take what you need.
 
Ell
That is terrible also
 
@Ell jointly owned means of production is one thing I think.
 
> Communism (from Latin communis – common, universal) is a socioeconomic system structured upon common ownership of the means of production and characterized by the absence of classes, money,[1][2] and the state; as well as a social, political and economic ideology and movement that aims to establish this social order.
 
Ell
But i thought rapptz just said that was socialism?
 
user1804599
@thecoshman Have you tried Jython or JRuby?
 
10:55 PM
Socialism is when there's no privately owned land.
 
user1804599
Since you are basically doing dynamic typing, a dynamically typed language may be useful.
 
Talking about socioeconomics is difficult.
 
meh who cares about these things anyway
 
user1804599
PRIVATISE EVERYTHING
 
@AlexM. People.
 
Ell
10:56 PM
I'm ancap anyhow
 
Unless you're one of those people who go "who cares about politics!"
 
so far for any way to organize a community an invariant was the fact that sooner or later someone became unsatisfied and inbalance ensued
 
user1804599
I want more freedom.
 
Ell
Me too.
 
I think the best freedom we will ever have will be in the form of VR
 
10:57 PM
@Ell Meh.
 
where each person could build their own world
 
user1804599
I’m gonna leave the UDS and move to Australia or something.
 
as long as people with different opinions from mine exist and directly affect me, I don't see myself working together with them in any way
 
Ell
@rapptz I still can't find a satisfactory solution to stupid people though. In any kind of society
 
@AlexM. You can already do that with C++.
 
10:58 PM
Communism's end goal was supposed to lead to a type of anarchism.
 
Ell
@rightfold if you want freedom, Somalia is the place to be
 
@Rapptz ...link please?
 
user1804599
@Ell Is it allowed to be bisexual in Somalia?
 
@StackedCrooked I'm just parroting what I heard in class eons ago.
 
user1804599
And have gay sex.
 
10:59 PM
I'll find one though.
 
Ell
Anything is allowed
 
@rightfold ¬_¬ language choice has been mandated
 
Ell
There is no state
 
@rightfold Without government the land will be ruled by bandit gangs. Scary indeed.
 
Ell
@stacked not if anyone has any sense
Read the machinery of freedom :P
 
user1804599
10:59 PM
> Penalty: Up to 3 years imprisonment, although vigilante executions are tolerated.
 

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