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11:05 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why?
 
> Israelis gather on hillsides to watch and cheer as military drops bombs on Gaza
People drink, snack and pose for selfies against a background of explosions as Palestinian death toll mounts in ongoing offensive
people around those parts need some serious reeducation
 
@AlexM. people around these parts need to wake up and realise that this is total fabricated bullshit
 
what fabricated bullshit
 
will do
 
11:07 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't like it.
 
this is no different than Americans cheering at the death of enemy "combatants" (i.e. civilians in Iraq)
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why not?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit people around those parts need some serious reeducation too
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ugh, they do that?
 
but since we're on the topic, I'll repost this
yesterday, by Alex M.
> A 10-year girl in Afghanistan is in danger of being honor-killed by her family after being violently raped by a mullah in a local mosque after her Quran class. After the family openly talked about killing the girl, the mullah offered to marry her, claiming to the authorities that he thought the girl was 17 and that the sex was consensual.
that's some fucked up shit
how do you kill your own child for that
what "honor"
you're a piece of insignificant shit
what kind of honor could you have
wth even is "honor"
I tried to understand how children there grow up
like, do they know they might just get killed by their own parents someday for something that's not even their fault
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like the "It's interesting." remark.
 
11:11 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes you've never encountered it? some (certainly not all, probably not most) USAians I've encountered (mostly on the internet) couldn't give a dirty fuck about loss of life because it's 'dem Mussies being taken out and "cos of 9/11"
@AlexM. a misspelling of "honour"
 
lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But there is some distance between not giving a fuck and actually cheering.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that one makes more sense to me. I can imagine myself doing that. going to observe. different from cheering though. all the rest, "taking snacks" makes it sound like a party but if you're sitting atop a hillside for a few hours even just out of interest then yes you'd probably take some food with you
@R.MartinhoFernandes I mean, celebration of victory with concurrent not giving a fuck about the loss of life incurred as a result
same thing isn't it?
well, it's not clear whether these guys are cheering because of the loss of life. readers of the article seem to be assuming so but with no basis to do so at all
 
They're cheering because it's beautiful, it seems.
> "What a beauty," says one appreciative spectator.
 
fireballs are beautiful
spectacular sights
why do we watch fireworks
I saw a video of a huge gas tanker explosion and it was fantastic
 
11:15 AM
somewhat ontopic: vsegda-tvoj.livejournal.com/8669275.html (use google translate)
> Russian soldiers boasted on the social network shelling Ukraine
 
(don't tell me what to do)
 
fine, use bing
take a look at the selfies though lol
WW3 would probably go like
"Motherfucker I'm going to kill you. But first, let me take a selfie."
 
@AlexM. looks like a fake
 
no idea :(
it's the only place where I found those pics, so it could be
some guy linked them on a local forum
 
11:20 AM
however, it doesn't really matter if it's true or not.
 
@AlexM. Gosh fuck Instagram.
 
I wonder what "gosh fucking" is like
 
what really matters is that Ukrainian fascist are killing innocent civilians.
 
yawn
sweeping generalisation and sensationalism is fun
 
11:23 AM
what?
 
I'm waiting for Google to control everything tech in the world
and stop wars from happening simply because it would disrupt its global business
 
@AlexM. won't happen.
 
Wars are not threats to the survival of corporations.
Lawsuits are.
 
11:25 AM
wars can have negative effects on companies selling worldwide
see sanctions and stuff
e.g. those applied on russian companies
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Like Goth fucking but with the front teeth pulled out.
 
@AlexM. why do you think USA starts wars all over the world?
 
to gain resources?
 
and who exactly gains those resources?
 
whoever needs them, obviously
 
11:29 AM
Google. Obviously.
 
user1804599
Is there an Stack Exchange site for library recommendations?
 
but that's just the US extending its ground
 
user1804599
because Stack Overflow is ermahgerd not "constructive"
 
my point was
you don't see wars inside US' area of influence where there's an established stream of resources
 
@AlexM. you haven't really been keeping up with Google in the last, oh, say, 6 years, I take it?
 
11:30 AM
and someone having a monopoly over all the world would find any war to be disruptive
 
@VáclavZeman ew
 
If you have that you really don't care
 
@rightfold there's a beta iirc
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Software Recommendationssoftwarerecs.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for people seeking specific software recommendations.

Currently in public beta.

 
@AlexM. actually it's those big corporations are starting the wars. to gain more control, right.
 
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Q: Is immutability very worthwhile when there is no concurrency?

DenIt seems that thread-safety is always/often mentioned as the main benefit of using immutable types and especially collections. I have a situation where I would like to make sure that a method will not modify a dictionary of strings (which are immutable in C#). I’d like to constrain things as muc...

 
11:32 AM
Google would never.
 
@AlexM. yep, they'll leach everything they can from you. without wars.
 
> Don't be evil
 
@Jefffrey lol
 
"Don't be evil" -> publishes Google C++ Style Guide
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11:35 AM
Don't be evil unless profit.
 
I was going to say what I liked about immutability as a noob, but in the end I wrote down the definition of immutability. meh.
 
Forgot about the damn photo
 
@Abyx shrug
I dunno which version I like more
 
They'd sell bottled pure evil if they could.
 
I'm more inclined to take the dystopia
 
11:37 AM
They'd probably even try to scam you in the bottled evil.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. Yes.
 
user1804599
Everything immutable always.
 
Ell
Hi people
 
Sell you tinted water and say it's evil.
 
Ell
I will find out if I get sponsorship later today or Monday :3
But I Ballsed up the presentation a bit
 
11:38 AM
@rightfold I sorta understand code that uses immutable stuff much faster
I treat each immutable object as some sort of concept that stays the same
 
Ell
I mixed up electrical and electronic throughout the presentation :L
 
this is an awesome track, especially towards the end soundcloud.com/bjorn-akesson/bjorn-akesson-painting
so intense without becoming noisy <3
 
user1804599
@AlexM. no shit
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit cosh fucking
 
in contrast, I find this to be both intense and noisy soundcloud.com/bankai/the-epic-part-iii-original-mix
I'm not sure why, but it feels like it uses too many sounds (if that make sense)
I can't listen to it on my headphones because my head starts hurting
speakers are ok
it's so far the only song I've listened to that made me feel like it's too much to listen to lol
 
11:55 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes nonono that's too expensive, they'd sell you tap water labeled as pure evil instead. Much less liability to lawsuits that way when nothing happens.
 
"The codomain can contain more elements than the union of all possible images". What
 
hacking depicted in old movies: youtube.com/watch?v=rUGQHdYUIEo
 
Ell
Meh I don't think most companies are evil
 
25 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Sell you tinted water and say it's evil.
I'm good at being evil.
 
is that perl
 
12:04 PM
Seems like some mathematical notation.
 
that is a question for rightFold
 
It's definitely not Perl.
It has fractions and stuff in it.
 
I must suck at jokes :(
 
badumtish
 
user1804599
lolwut
 
Ell
12:10 PM
Jokes a hard on the internet
 
user1804599
 
@AlexM. unicode in the 60s
 
lol, some guy failed to rob a store because he couldn't express his intentions to the cashiers.
 
Ell
What language is "nyen" or "nee-yen"
 
Apparently you need to speak German to rob a store here.
 
Ell
12:16 PM
It sounds like Russian or Czech or something
Haha that is the worst fail for a robbery
 
Seems Scandinavian to me.
 
Ell
Did he just leave after being unable to express himself? :P
 
> One ran into the street calling for help, prompting the man to flee after abandoning both knife and backpack, which the staff later realized he had wanted them to fill with cash from the register.
Not sure which are dumber.
 
Ell
Haha
 
The staff for not understanding that a guy brandishing a knife was trying to rob them, or the guy for, yeah, for failing to convey that.
 
12:17 PM
@AlexM. almost looks like APL
 
Ell
Maybe it was nyet
I think I'm hearing that now
 
Xeo
Man, I've really come to love upper_bound recently
 
@Ell That's Russian.
 
user1804599
@Ell nyan cat
 
user1804599
@AlexM. It's C++.
 
12:21 PM
with UDLs?
makes sense :A
I'm watching a talk about std::move and std::forward by scott meyers, the guy is pretty funny
^ first time watching
 
@AlexM. First time watching Scott?
 
yeah
 
Welcome back to our world :P
 
or at least I don't remember seeing him before, but I'm pretty positive it's the first time
 
Was it cooler under that rock?
 
12:32 PM
lol
 
I want to get rid of a hidden dependency on clock::now(), to enable testing.
Kinda sucks.
 
Xeo
make it a non-hidden dependency? :P
 
How?
I don't want to make this a template.
 
> The Brown University Seal
that sun is like "yeah baby"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes you do :P
 
12:39 PM
No, not really.
I have enough trouble with VS already.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah you do :P
 
user1804599
@AlexM. the sun is high.
 
I could pass on the current time explicitly, but that kinda sucks.
Turn every function into (clock_type::time_point now = clock_type::now())
 
Check your privilege.
 
Ell
That way you can go back in time
 
12:50 PM
meyers is sorta cute too
dat beatles hairdo
 
my phone arrived
turns out it only takes microsim instead of sim and I only have a sim card /whoops
 
@Puppy ¬_¬ what you doing buying fancy phone? doll that good?
 
@Puppy you can cut it
 
Shitty new sim card dimensions.
Thanks for nothing, Apple.
 
@thecoshman The previous one is broken and I kinda need a phone so that people can, y'know, phone me.
also it's not a fancy phone, it's pretty rock bottom as far as phones go these days.
 
12:54 PM
@milleniumbug a lot of manufacturers use micro sims nowadays
 
@Puppy how convenient...
 
@Puppy you have such people? really?
 
my htc one uses microsim and I'm sure samsungs do too
 
yes, it is convenient, that's why I made that choice.
@milleniumbug Everyone uses microsim now. It's been the new standard for like, three years. You're probably thinking of nanosim.
 
Ell
You can just cut it up
 
12:56 PM
@AlexM. Well, yes. But I thought it was Apple that started the trend.
 
'tis not the trendsetter to blame, for others' inability to adapt.
that sounded kinda cool
I should do it more often
 
Meh, it's only that I like complaining, and all my devices right now use mini-SIM.
 
Yay thunder!
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion buienradar.nl dammit I'm in the south.
 
huh
the Windows Phone integration with Outlook/Windows Messenger is super fucking annoying
I haven't used that shit since I was thirteen.
fuck off.
 
1:06 PM
lol
 
and my "picture" is of me when I'm thirteen, too.
 
ITT puppy is thirteen.
 
@Puppy you made the choice for micro sim... even though you didn't have one... and didn't think to get a cutter?
 
user1804599
commit 00dd2a0a03a661ca9310f82ece7eb282e66ef0be
Author: Radek Slupik <rightfold@gmail.com>
Date:   Fri Jul 25 15:10:12 2014 +0200

    Fix everything
 
@thecoshman I thought you were referring to my choice of purchasing a rock bottom phone.
argh
this fucking thing can't even add a fucking contact without trying to sync it with the cloud or some shit like that.
I just want to store the number of the landline... it's not a fucking person.
 
1:12 PM
You're not hip enough.
 
vOv android <3
 
user1804599
Symbian ftw.
 
user1804599
Calling works great.
 
user1804599
What more do you need a phone for?
 
I have a Symbian phone right now ;)
 
1:16 PM
See, like a real hipster.
> Russian scientists have lost contact with an experimental satellite filled with geckos that was to be the focus of new research on animal sex in zero-gravity.
 
user1804599
Me too. :3
 
> although it may look like some joke, it's not a joke but real problem
 
wonder what zero gravity gecko sex looks like?
 
I knew a few Russian scientists that won't get to know what it looks like.
 
@rightfold texting, music, emails, games, browsing, maps
 
1:25 PM
Is there something like retry behaviour in wcf?
 
ok
6393856 is clearly too many rounds for my poor phone.
 
user3010322
 
so. How does NDA work on contracts anyway?
 
I use my phone for everything except calls atm
 
@Crow what do you mean "how does it work"?
 
1:29 PM
I use my phone for showing missed calls, it has gone mute. Calling is hard since two buttons are broken.
 
@Crow you sign it and it means you agree you won't tell anything to anybody for what the contract states
 
oh wait
the first account you use can't be deleted from your phone.
thank you so much for that, Microsoft.
where did I put the factory reset button?
 
Thanks for helping me reduce my choices in phone OSs
 
user1804599
woot
 
user1804599
a getting started tutorial that begins with project structure
 
Xeo
1:34 PM
...
 
user1804599
it's like heaven
 
Xeo
I always forget that VS seems to have a general specialisation of std::hash for convertible-to-integer types - like enums.
So as soon as I commit, the build breaks with GCC
FFS
 
I get bitten by that too.
I wish GCC had that feature.
 
Xeo
maaah, I don't want to make the key a puny integer
 
user3010322
Just make an enum_hash.
 
@TonyTheLion I suspect that the others may be equal horseshit.
 
That doesn't look like the result of linear interpolation.
 
@Puppy meh
 
@Puppy They are.
 
So which is the lesser of all horshit?
 
Xeo
1:43 PM
None
 
Thats not very helpful
 
Did I miss sarcasm?
 
No.
Being the lesser of all horseshit is not very helpful.
 
I was referring to Xeo's answer not being helpful
 
1:51 PM
I'm gonna send Microsoft a really pissy email
because why not
 
What about?
 
I've done that with O2 a few times.
What comes back is usually : "I'm sorry... blah blah"
 
the account bullshit.
can't even add a contact without it being tied to some account and synced somewhere utterly fucking meaningless.
 
Sshh, Bartek might be around.
@Puppy That's fucked up.
 
@Puppy But the butt (Cats version of the Cloud)
 
1:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess "Put name and number in a file on the storage" is too hard.
 
oh but on local storage they can't snoop it from you
 
honestly, it's a real shame because up until then, I was really kinda liking it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What do you do with it?
I mean, the information, not the monitor.
 
now I'm kinda sitting just looking at my phone.
 

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