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5:06 PM
I wouldn't say it's worse than yours
I passed the geometry class with a 5/10 and barely attended
but I know for sure we never used radians in HS
it's possible that my colleagues used them during the geometry class in college
I passed by doing... uhh
some transformations
and some basic stuff like
I forgot
 
radians are introduced in high school around age 14-15 iirc.
I mean in Belgium
 
depends on country and individual school, obviously.
we used a few radians at 17-18
 
the SAT equivalent also uses degrees only, no radians
for all exercises
I guess it's just a national thing
more of my colleagues got jobs now
I guess companies really love my uni's students
probably because all profs are crazy about TDD and pushing random technologies up our asses
I guess the number of employed students is also a reason for how no profs care that much about attendance rate
as long as you pass the exams
tbh I'm not exactly agreeing with this practice
sure, it became some sort of reflex for them to apply the best practices and all
but my issue is that they have no idea what or why they're doing
they're just repeating what they were taught over and over again
like a bunch of machines
then again
when I tell them about stuff not taught in college most are like
"wait, how do you know that, it was not in the courses O_o"
so they deserve their shitty fate
 
alright
I managed to land on Duna but fell over doing it.
now I've got 1700dv to get back to my interplanetary stage.
didn't manage to right it again on takeoff
 
Xeo
5:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes You might like this: youtu.be/_nlFcEj41Xk
 
oh no wonder I found the landing so hard... accidentally left 4x timewarp on.
 
KFC makes nice boiled sweetcorn
I want to code stuff but I have to code stuff for college
I hate college so much
I hope it dies
 
Hm, just came back from an Indian restaurant.
Was sooo gooood.
 
if I had 6000 eur just laying around I'd give them to my parents to cover all of their expenses for me since I started college and then abandon that shithole w/o feeling guilty
but I don't have them
 
@EtiennedeMartel Indian is fucking tasty. I dislike Chinese but Indian, man. I haven't had an Indian in years and I intend to change that sometime soon.
 
5:38 PM
Spicy, but hell yes.
 
they locked me up for some reason last time I ate an Indian. You'd think that cannibalism is some kind of weird thing.
 
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if that IP address is yours
then that means you're very needy
make less requests
give stuff for a change, instead
 
F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 what F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 do F5 F5 F5 F5 you F5 F5 F5 F5 F5 mean F5 F5 F5 F5 by F5 F5 F5 F5 "needy" F5 F5 F5 F5 ?
 
Can this be considered most vexing parse?
 
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5:43 PM
No.
 
no, of course not.
 
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there's nothing syntactically ambiguous there.
your program's meaning (or lack thereof) is quite clear for all to see
 
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Oh UK voted today?
 
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Oh wait, nevermind.
 
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5:45 PM
Are unofficial results available?
 
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@DeadMG It could mean member initialization
 
@Jefffrey Not with two regular parens. NSDMIs can only be {} or = expr;.
 
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5:47 PM
lol, dat percentage
 
@DeadMG just like Type a() does not mean member initialization
but it's still ambiguous
 
what.
what even are you talking about, there is no MVP for member functions.
 
what's mvp?
 
most vexing parse.
NSDMIs can only be {}, they cannot be (), unlike function-local variables, and there is only an ambiguity when () is used.
 
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Most Valuable Professional
 
5:49 PM
therefore, there is no ambiguity possible with member functions, it is always unambiguously a member variable or function.
 
I'm talking about the fact that a b() in class body is just as ambiguous as a b() in a function body.
 
@rig
 
@Jefffrey Except it isn't, because a b() cannot ever be a variable.
a b() is not a legal initialization form for members.
 
@Jefffrey you can't declare functions inside of functions
 
@rig, exactly what I thought.
 
5:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Er, you can. That's what the entire MVP is. That you absolutely can.
 
@BartekBanachewicz yes, you can
 
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TIL there’s a place in NL called Tytsjerksteradiel. What is this, Iceland?
 
lol ok C++ sucks
let's move on
 
it's a C holdover really
or rather, that you can declare functions inside of functions is a C rule, not C++.
as per usual, the attempted use of another similar syntax in C++ caused the problem to become substantially exacerbated.
 
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@BartekBanachewicz dat pun
 
5:55 PM
bah, no godzilla clips on youtube yet
I want to show someone what I thought was the nicest bit
and I can't
 
download v0v
 
@AlexM. There definitely are trailers.
 
lol Hg isn't on the Microsoft survey as a source control tool
 
How I miss C++ :(
And in all these years of writing Java, C++ has grown so much.
 
welp
landed again on Duna the right way up and paid 400 less dv to do it.
gotta love performing complex maneuvers at 1x speed
 
6:07 PM
I wonder if she will recognize me, or throw a warning at me.
 
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-Werror
 
@Raze How is it a good thing that C++ has grown so much? The standard is already 1,372 pages or something.
 
@FredOverflow Many of the new features like rvalue refs are almost entirely sweetness for users though.
the actual act of writing C++ is a lot easier in C++11.
 
@Fred, I didn't say its a good thing. Neither that its bad. Everybody grows, and we just have to accept it.
 
I bet 90% of users have no idea what rvalues and rvalue references are supposed to achieve. We really need Scott's new book ASAP.
@Raze Are you still doing Java? Excited about Lambdas? :)
 
6:11 PM
@rightfold, -w rather :p
@Fred, Not completely. You see, one reason why Java is so popular is that so many people know about it.
So many people know it.
 
@rightfold Have you watched Walter Bright's keynote two hours ago? I overslept it :(
 
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No.
 
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But I would be surprised if they wouldn’t be published again.
 
I hope they deliver the videos faster than last year -- it was two videos per week then :(
lol Harry Potter is talking at DConf right now :D
 
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lol
 
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6:14 PM
> 20:14 ustreamer-469271: I'm disappointed that there's no plane pictures
 
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:D
 
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@FredOverflow I have no idea what the fuck the guy is talking about. :D
 
@rightfold Planes who look like they want to fly?
 
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They want to fly!
 
@FredOverflow the stream is not working for me :(
 
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@BartekBanachewicz That’s what she said.
 
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@FredOverflow Oh, boring.
 
@rightfold wut
 
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Time to write more software!
 
@rightfold He actually looks better with short hair.
 
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6:17 PM
Nah.
 
Wait, he's wearing a bow-tie in the picture, and he's into assembly programming? I thought only FP people wore bow-ties...
 
obviously he programs functionally in assembly
 
@rightfold Why is he holding a paper block in his hand?
 
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@FredOverflow I wear only fillets made of silver and diamond.
 
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Or sunglasses.
 
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6:21 PM
@FredOverflow Because he is a nerd.
 
Wait, he doesn't even have slides, does he?
 
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I have a problem with SRP.
 
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Nevermind. Got it.
 
That was quick :)
 
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@FredOverflow I solved the problem by almost asking a question in the Lounge. :)
 
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6:26 PM
I wanted to serialise geocoding to prevent rate limiting issues.
 
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Instead of having the serialisation code do the actual geocoding, I just pass a geocoder to it now. :)
 
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Also Closable y u no exist.
 
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Oh, I want AutoClosable I think.
 
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Not sure how to name it, though.
 
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GeocodingSerializer :v
 
@rightfold Actually, it is AutoCloseable. English is weird.
 
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lol
 
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@FredOverflow Scala has no try-with-resources, right?
 
@rightfold It has equivalent library support.
 
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6:43 PM
ololcool
 
Can't remember the name of the library function, though.
 
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Bracket? :P
 
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Q: What Automatic Resource Management alternatives exists for Scala?

Daniel C. SobralI have seen many examples of ARM (automatic resource management) on the web for Scala. It seems to be a rite-of-passage to write one, though most look pretty much like one another. I did see a pretty cool example using continuations, though. At any rate, a lot of that code has flaws of one type ...

Seems it's not built-in after all.
 
@JohanLarsson I prefer that one.
 
But you can always write it yourself trivially.
 
user1804599
6:50 PM
True.
 
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I already have a util package object with a spawn function. :P
 
@FredOverflow the trailers don't show that particular bit
 
@EtiennedeMartel I never loved fusion, the vocals are nice though
 
@AlexM. The movie is terrible anyway, isn't it? I mean, why does the world need another Godzilla movie?
 
I think the movie is fun
 
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6:52 PM
Stop thinking.
 
@AlexM. The only upside to the last Godzilla movie was this:
 
shrug
I'm not sure what you were expecting
godzilla is a cheap action movie where you watch a dinosaur fight stuff
it's like the call of duty of action movies
 
@AlexM. Oh, I haven't watched it. I just assume it's terrible ;)
 
Please make sure to read and understand the question first. Adding irrelevant responses waists the time of thousands (if not more) of people. — Moussa Jan 11 '13 at 14:32
No overstatement there.
THOUSANDS!
Also, "waists".
 
@FredOverflow yeah, sorry, but I can't take you seriously in that case
 
6:54 PM
@AlexM. I'll watch it if you invite me to the movies. Popcorn's on me!
 
lol no more popcorn pls my stomach just settled
 
It's terrible because fuck Hollywood.
 
@AlexM. Nachos it is then.
 
It's terrible and you shouldn't go watch it because fuck reboots, sequels, prequels, paraquels, sequels of sequels of reboots and all that crap.
 
I think this is the best review for it, mainly because it points out the flaws I also noticed
 
6:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes What's a paraquel? A sequel so bad it needs a parachute?
 
lol
 
It's a sequel or prequel but the authors fucked up the continuity so bad they decided it's just a different story told in the same universe.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The BSG Reboot was pretty great.
 
isn't that a spin-off?
 
Being rumoured as a sequel or prequel helps sell.
 
7:01 PM
I don't mind sequels or prequels tbh, if they're good, they're good
 
@AlexM. Wait, the movie has nuclear reactors? Must see.
 
sequel | prequel does not imply bad quality
 
They're often standalone stories that some exec decided to shove into an existing franchise to sell better.
@Alex there's a strong correlation.
 
especially in godzilla's case
I mean it's a movie about a dinosaur that spits fire fighting stuff
it's dumb by nature
 
Yes. They even ran out of imagination for dumb movies.
 
7:03 PM
it's perfect sequel material because it delivers a fighting dinosaur that spits fire all the time
 
whoah
 
if you like that kind of stuff, then you don't mind sequels
 
my Kerbal grabbed on to the ladder so hard, he smashed solar panels on the other side of the rocket.
 
I do agree the sequelization for money idea doesn't fit other things
like how the hobbit was split into 3 parts for extra cash
 
Wait, people do movies for money? What kind of world are we living in?
 
7:04 PM
parts that are not even faithful in entirety to the book
 
That's normal.
 
I think the hobbit was so short it could easily fit into a single one hour movie w/o missing much detail
 
being faithful in entirety to the book is dumb.
 
but I might remember things wrong, I read it ten years ago
 
there are always gonna be bits that he wasn't on his best form when writing, bits that don't translate well to the screen, or bits that frankly wouldn't appeal to modern viewers.
not to mention that I don't even like Tolkein's work or the films based on it really
but requiring it to be perfectly faithful to the books is just silly and ignoring reality.
 
7:07 PM
@DeadMG depends from where you look
IIRC the tolkien estate decided not to continue with movies because of this reason
 
yes, they decided not to continue with them, that's why we have three more of them.
besides, they can be just as moronic as any other human beings
 
7:27 PM
@FredOverflow, People who are experienced with OO language but don't know functional programming find it hard to wrap their head around lambdas.
 
@Raze no not really
 
@ScarletAmaranth, I hope you're right.
 
if you understand functions, you understand lambdas; there's no magic
 
@Raze I'm sure it was once hard for them to wrap their head around OO.
 
@Raze Not really.
if you're genuinely on the curve w.r.t. OO, not just that "Spam inheritance and getters/setters" Java-style shit, then functional programming is really not that different.
 
7:31 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Except that lambdas have no name.
 
4 days in, still no buyer for the iPad
I'm stuck with this junk
why did I buy it
it's the last time I buy anything apple
 
@FredOverflow I can't see how that could make a difference between understanding and not understanding them
 
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@Raze lambda is similar to anonymous inner class in Java, except less verbose and less crappy.
 
@AlexM. iPad you on the back in consolation.
 
thx
 
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7:32 PM
Also, well fuck.
 
I want to buy this so I can feel like an accomplished weeaboo ebay.co.uk/itm/251514888900
 
@FredOverflow, people who are willing to learn will learn. But then there are some people with a lot of experience who don't want to bring in anything new.
 
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@FredOverflow
 
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def using[T <: AutoCloseable, R](resource: T)(fn: (T) => R) =
  try fn(resource) finally resource.close()
 
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This should work. :)
 
7:34 PM
goodbye, Fail Seven Ship, you served your purpose with honour, skill, and devotion.
 
I heard I can only reach level 99 in sad life through ways like this
 
I think it will work out based on how many devs and architects like functional programming.
@rightfold
 
@Raze appeal to authority
 
@DeadMG DeadMG goes win8?
 
no
 
7:41 PM
@rightfold, Not just the syntax. I think to generally use the constructs in FP, one has to think that way. I know lisp and JavaScript, so I'm not new to functional programming. Try explaining to an OOP only guy some functional code and you will know what I mean.
 
the name of my KSP rocket is Fail Seven Ship.
 
oh :)
 
the lander part is Fail Seven Lander.
and I just jettisoned the rocket to burn up in Kerbin's atmosphere smash into Kerbin at several kilometers per second
 
@DeadMG, that's probably true. I'm talking about the people who say "you should always use private fields for everything and use public getters and setters if you want it public, never use public fields for anything, ever" kind of people
 
eh
I used to do that, then I found that I spent for fucking ever just writing getters and setters for everything and they practically never paid off.
 
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7:45 PM
@Raze Well, you need to learn FP if you want to do FP just like you need to learn OOP if you want to do OOP.
 
FUCK.
I forgot to plant flags on Duna and Ike.
 
Found this on reddit:
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Q: Capture image via captureStillImageAsynchronouslyFromConnection with no shutter sound

k06aThere are a lot of questions about this problem on SO: AVFoundation, how to turn off the shutter sound when captureStillImageAsynchronouslyFromConnection? How can I mute the capture sound in AVFoundation? I wish i could mute shutter sound of camera using ios sdk But really no one answer works...

 
@DeadMG, Exactly! If you're writing library code and stuff, there's point in doing all that. When you're writing an application that is standalone and that which can be refactored whichever ways, I usually see no point. Especially for objects that serve as model objects.
 
Noise cancellation on an iPhone.
 
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Wunderbar. My code works.
 
7:48 PM
welp new record
2311.5 Science in a single mission.
 
@rightfold, that's what I'm talking about. The newer generation of programmers, and the better programmers of all generations will learn it, or already knows it. But that doesn't account for everyone. I think it is generally well received, but will have a slow start
 
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@Mysticial What a horrible, horrible terrible hack, lol.
 
I think FP will have a big impact, even more so than it has now, but I have doubts that it will ever be as dominant as OOP was/is.
 
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They say concurrency is becoming more important and therefore immutable data structures are becoming more important and FP offers that.
 
kenney released some more public domain art for games: opengameart.org/content/boardgame-pack
I wonder how many thousands of dollars he makes out of donations alone
 
7:52 PM
@Mysticial I wonder what it would sound like if the two streams got slightly desynced
 
I think the future will be a mixture. Data modelling will be OO and computation will be FP
 
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I think I cannot foresee anything and I don’t care much.
 
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I just use technologies that make me drool.
 
FP doesn't enforce immutability in general. But well written FP code is usually side effect free, and makes it easy to parallelize execution.
 
I really like the idea of a mix of OOP and FP. It allows for as much side-effect-less operation as possible while recognizing that sometimes, it just doesn't matter or you need different things.
 
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7:55 PM
scala scala scala :drool:
 
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what's :drool:?
 
Befunge makes me drool. But its not like I'm going to use it for anything serious.
 
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@Jefffrey uh, it represents drooling perhaps. :V
 
fuck college
I'm going to do Scheme tonight
 
7:58 PM
@rightfold It's not in the list of smiles.
 
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We do functional programming at work. vOv
 
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@Jefffrey So?
 
ITS NOT ALLOWED
 
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YES MASTER
 
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I AM SORRY MASTER
 
7:59 PM
:redhammer:
 
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:worship:
 

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