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@R.MartinhoFernandes is 'group selfie' an oxymoron :S
 
sounds like a joke
people have been taking group photos for a long time
 
I should work on my blog finally
it's high fucking time
 
I'll finish the tilegames post first I think
 
3:02 PM
gods forbid you make PHYSICAL CONTACT with other people
 
@jalf Ha, no dice.
 
@Rapptz Yeah, but they haven't been doing it en masse in the same way since they didn't have mass cameras
 
 
cheap cameras have been around longer than I've been alive
 
wow Feeds you're super late.
 
3:04 PM
lol
 
@Rapptz Yeah, but people didn't buy them en masse. Because all you could do with them is take a few photos and then dick around getting them developed.
 
that's xkcd?
 
user3010322
I don't want to port to OpenGL. ;~;
 
yep
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Great. Who's surprised? :D Did it at least use the right compiler then? (I checked by running task manager and opening properties on the cl process to find its path)
 
3:04 PM
@Rapptz ye
@ThePhD then don't port. Change to OpenGL.
 
looks strange
 
user3010322
@BartekBanachewicz Same difference...?
 
anyway the time to develop an album back then was 30 minutes.
 
@ThePhD not really. If you throw away dx stuff you will have much easier time keeping up with it and you will actually be able to use MinGW
 
user3010322
I can use DX with MinGW..
 
3:06 PM
you think you can, at least.
 
user3010322
Mm.
 
user3010322
Well, I guess I'll just read @Borgleader's LLOGL and try to figure out what I need to do.
 
i have a query about Excel; can i post here?
 
user3010322
3:07 PM
... Excel?
 
@jackopen C++ is NOT Excel. So :getout:
 
@jalf Thanks anyway.
 
yeah; i cant find any active excel channel chat hence need help from here
 
@jackopen this isnt an active excel channel either
 
user3010322
Maybe because there's no excel experts here...
 
3:07 PM
ok
 
@jackopen Did you try superuser.com or maybe stackoverflow.com if it's about VBA or something?
 
@ThePhD Yea because we don't excel in shit
 
Heh, so they have a 64-bit compiler which isn't actually able to use more memory than the 32-bit one. Cute :p
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user3010322
Why don't you try posting on Stack Overflow maybe? YOu could probably get an answer lickety split.
 
Chat is not the place to post questions.
 
3:08 PM
so @R.MartinhoFernandes you can't use MinGW?
 
i am afraid of posting now
 
user3010322
@jalf Kinky.
 
@jackopen why you afraid?
 
@jackopen when there's no active excel channel it's still more likely you get an answer in an excel channel than in just some active channel
or maybe just ask on SO...
 
go on IRC and look for an #excel room
 
3:09 PM
you can check my records i am banned
irc is much better
 
@jackopen probably for good reason
 
@jackopen Chat is not a place to circumvent bans.
 
oh
turns out I accidentally plonked ThePhD
 
IRC sucks
 
3:09 PM
I was looking at the chat and I was like, "Wat, why doesn't this make sense?"
 
@DeadMG lol
 
user3010322
@ScarletAmaranth Is that by material id or by a newly constructed material?
 
user3010322
I sure hope he doesn't unplonk me. It'd probably be best for both of us.
 
@Rapptz We considered that, but we're going to wait out.
 
hahaha
 
3:10 PM
hmm
I have 133 monads requesting citizenship of my town
 
@ThePhD I always construct a new material but it might be an idea to use IDs, you see, I can always fine tune stuff like to what extent material reacts to what kind of light
 
wait
you own monads?
 
my reputation is very bad at SO; hence i dont post questions any more; here rules are like writing an examination answer sheet to post a question on SO.
 
If by summer there is one of: 1) working clang-cl, 2) slightly not so shitty VC++, we'll use that.
 
no I'm making a joke.
 
user3010322
3:11 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Sounds good enough.
 
they're actually nomads rather than monads.
 
@jackopen So you want help writing a question?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If you contribute EH/RTTI then it'll be practically done :P
supposedly
 
@ThePhD my raytracer is far from being usable for anything else than rendering spheres and cubes in random scenes to be honest, so I haven't given a thought to using any other materials than something I can very trivially procedurally generate if that makes sense
 
no i cant disturb others everytime i am curious
 
3:12 PM
@DeadMG terrible joke
 
What's wrong with MinGW though?
 
@jackopen er?
 
I don't get it
 
user3010322
It seems weird not to use MinGW if you're already using GCC for Linux platforms?
 
@jackopen people look at SO on their volition. Posting there is not disturbing anyone
in fact it'll be fun for us to downvote you :P
 
3:13 PM
yeah but most of my posts are deleted by moderators
 
I have done some checker board floors - that was the most "complex material" my raytracer has ever seen
 
@jackopen maybe there's a reason
 
@jackopen if your questions are too low quality for SO, why do you think they'd be better allowed here?
 
your fun demotivates others curiosity
 
@jackopen also, just one more downvote and you can't chat! :)
 
3:13 PM
@Rapptz Is thread support stable now?
 
user3010322
@ScarletAmaranth Textured? Or was it a material that used a function?
 
@jackopen no you need to learn to ask good questions. Its not that hard
 
Also, have you considered raising the quality of your questions, rather than trying to find a place that will accept junk questions?
 
user3010322
3:14 PM
Did GCC 4.9 come out? And did MinGW ever build a 4.9 version?
 
@ThePhD well, from the way I raytrace things, I can create an actual texture by "mapping" and composing basic materials
 
browse the help section, and post your question based on the guidelines there
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mingw64 has had <thread> since at least a year ago
 
i think content is more important than grammer!!! (many people are like me)
 
@Rapptz I see ruben's builds with std::thread with "experimental" on it.
 
user3010322
3:14 PM
@ScarletAmaranth Sounds kinky.
 
ruben's builds haven't been maintained in a long time
 
@jackopen Grammar is important on The Internet.
 
the same question can be twisted & asked in many ways & only certain ways are accepted by SO
 
he gave up because mingwbuilds does a better job
 
huh... today's xkcd is... odd...
 
3:16 PM
I don't want to be maintaining the two platforms, too. I'm the only one here that can use gdb.
 
@jackopen The content of your questions has nothing to do with programming. Do you know what SO is for?
 
it is better to search google or go to irc than take help from SO for most of the things
@jalf i dont think
i know what is SO
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Judging from some preliminary searches and stackoverflow, MinGW's std::thread facilities are okay.
 
@jackopen well, go to google or irc then
 
@jackopen well thats the same as everywhere. If you don't behave in a way the community wants you to behave, they will either ignore or expell you. There are two possible solutions: either adopt to the community you are in, or look for a community that accepts your current behavior
 
3:16 PM
@jackopen not really. Grammer is what helps us all work together.
 
@jackopen Then why are you here on SO?
 
@jackopen SO = StackOverflow the main site
 
user3010322
I've tried MinGW's std::thread with rubenvb's stuff and it's worked out well enough (I wasn't doing anything too crazy: just some basic thread pooling).
 
user3010322
I haven't seen if mingw-builds can do it.
 
@ThePhD Yeah, that doesn't count.
 
3:17 PM
forget about me; why you people are here?
 
user3010322
IIRC, mingw-builds is much more updated, so it should be solved there, maybe?
 
i can even find something useful from SO
 
@jackopen to wreck shit
 
I've tried MinGW's std::thread and ended up opening a bug so I don't forget to workaround it later.
 
@thecoshman Well, regardless of that, SO has plenty of questions with bad grammar, which haven't been closed or downvoted. So clearly grammar is not the problem
 
3:18 PM
we're here to worship robot obviously
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Grammar is part of the content #woah
 
@thecoshman spelling too, I guess
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threading worked fine for me
(using mingwbuilds)
 
so you beloeve only english users should post content on SO?
believe
 
@BartekBanachewicz nah,
 
3:19 PM
if you want I could try out whatever you think is buggy @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@jackopen no. most people on SO are not English
 
@jackopen No. Only users that bother crafting smart questions.
 
You need to know English to post on English site??
????
 
@CatPlusPlus Have I been living a lie?!
 
damn I'm hungry
 
3:19 PM
why a simple question/query needs to be converted to into smart one? i dont think that is rewquired. it is very bad rule of SO.
 
@jackopen nope.
 
@jackopen teeheehee, I am glad you don't make the rules
 
It is a knowledge database
 
@jackopen It has nothing to do with "simple" or "smart". There are lots of simple questions on SO
 
@jackopen I think you're just trolling now
 
3:20 PM
@jackopen your definitions of "smart" and "simple" are broken
 
Ask junk questions, get junk answers. SO tries to be a high-quality database of knowledge.
 
could be
 
@jackopen to help people that ask undeerstandable questions that that can be helped with their questions.
 
as i amnot english user
 
@Rapptz Oh, I'll SSCCE it out later. I just mentioned that to dismiss ThePhD's anecdotal account.
 
3:20 PM
word your question properly and don't cry - bad grammar gets usually fixed by grammar-nazis anyway
 
@jackopen neither am I.
 
@jackopen Most of us here aren't.
 
SO has no place for beginners
 
but your question has to be (1) about programming, and (2) be useful (ask about something that serves a purpose to a programmer), and (3) be written so that it is clear what you're asking, and what an answer needs to provide
 
@jackopen it has.
 
3:21 PM
@jackopen everyone here was/is a beginner
 
About 10% of users here are native speakers, we somehow manage to write proper, understandable English
 
also post explicit images of women because else nobody will look at your question
 
Xeo
dude
 
@DeadMG or men
 
beginner in the sense if a doctor want to learn some programming
 
3:21 PM
but even beginners can ask questions in a nice way that shows the want to learn
 
@jackopen bullshit
 
or a pilot wants to see the magic of code
 
@jackopen well I am done with you, you're not even listening to what everybody is saying, have it your way :)
 
Xeo
SO is not for teaching people how to program.
 
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Q: C++ Hello World not compiling

user1099123I just recently installed OSX lion and got xcode 4. I made a file in a directory somewhere and put this code in it: #include <iostream> using namespace std; int main() { cout << "Hello World!"; return 0; } Then I ran gcc filename.cc and I get these errors: 1.cc:3:20: error: iostream: N...

 
3:22 PM
No, it's not for beginners
 
@x
 
Isn't this a beginners question? It hasn't been downvoted and it hasn't been closed. So clearly, SO has room for beginners
 
@ScarletAmaranth in the meantime pick a proper avatar already :F
 
@Xeo i undestand but that should not demotivate also!!!
 
@BartekBanachewicz what do you suggest :)?
 
3:22 PM
SO is for professionals like us
 
@ScarletAmaranth a photo of your face
with an instagram filter
 
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@ScarletAmaranth Do you like any animals?
 
@jackopen your motivation is your own problem, not SO's. SO is there to help get programming questions answered. Its purpose is not to motivate you.
 
@jalf maybe in 2011
 
@BartekBanachewicz you wouldn't believe that right now I have 2 ponytails 13 year old girl style :)
 
3:23 PM
You must be this tall alcohol-addicted to participate
 
i amnot talking only my motivation
perhpas i will stick to SO till my last breath
 
@ThePhD I do, if they're properly cooked
 
but there are many posts on the internet world
even check ycombinators
 
user3010322
@ScarletAmaranth Sounds awesome!
 
about SO
 
user3010322
3:23 PM
At one point, fi I straightened my hair, I too could have ponytails or a braid.
 
@ScarletAmaranth doesn't matter. At least I wouldn't mistake you for this guy
 
@ScarletAmaranth Ok, now you have to post a picture !
 
@Rapptz there's still room for beginners, but these days their questions would probably be closed as duplicates (which is still supposed to be a helpful action to the OP, at least in theory)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was going to say this
 
user3010322
But alas, my hair was chopped down by ... The Woman.
 
3:24 PM
YC manages to be worse than fucking /r/programming sometimes, and that's an amazing achievement
 
ycombinator?
 
yeah
 
@jackopen none of us give a fuck. If you can't ask questions so that SO can answer them, then don't ask questions on SO. And don't whine to us about it
 
@DeadMG aka Hacker News.
 
A.k.a. Hacker News
 
3:24 PM
@DeadMG he googled: "advanced programming topic" and remembered a word from the title
 
ah yeah
I remember that shit
 
If you really want to whine about how mean the world is, send an email to the SO administrators. Not us. It. is. not. our. fucking. problem
 
@jalf i already skipped to ask on SO
news
 
yeah /r/programming and hn are pretty shitty
 
(You can tell it's all nerds and dinosaurs just by the stupid "hacker" moniker)
 
3:25 PM
true that
 
@jackopen Seems not. You are here wanting to ask us a question about Excel. Here on SO.
 
the term devaluated into oblivion
 
@jackopen None of what you're saying is our problem. If you think other sites are better then leave us alone and go to those other sites
 
even people(moderator) here dont care to suggest suitable channel for post in case if it is not relevant to that site
 
@CatPlusPlus Is that where the other dinosaurs hang out?
 
3:25 PM
@jackopen bullshit
 
SO is not tourist information for the Internet.
 
your bad words doesnt matter at all
 
@JerryCoffin Only the semi-modernised ones
The rest is still stuck on Usenet
 
if you like to talk you can
 
3:26 PM
@jackopen my bad words are to tell you that you're blatantly wrong
 
Cue [wheretoask.se]
 
@jackopen What do you want from us? Do you want me to go down to the nearest bookstore, buy a book on excel and read the book just so I can answer the question that you are too lazy and incompetent to figure out on your own?
 
have you guys actually lounged him ^^? seems his rep has gone down xD
 
We can 't solve your problems
 
jalf's at defcon 2 already
 
3:27 PM
anyone has answer for this query?
even people(moderator) here dont care to suggest suitable channel for post in case if it is not relevant to that site
 
it's not a query
 
@jackopen that is not a query
 
why do you post your stuff twice
 
i think that should be the minimum moderator can do
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yahoo Answers
 
3:27 PM
why do you post your stuff twice..
 
Moderators are not tourism information officers for the Internet.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, that's a site certain to attract a cadre of dedicated regulars.
 
I think the minimum would be to tell you to :getout: really
 
there should be some post for such facility on SO
 
@jackopen No. The minimum a moderator is supposed to do is stop people from misbehaving on SO, and get rid of junk posts and spam.
 
3:28 PM
information office
r
 
@jackopen Why?
 
@jackopen moderators are not here to baby sit people. They are here to clean up shit.
 
nice word
 
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@JerryCoffin You're not a dinosaur, though, you're one of the old wasps, like in E.V.O., search for Eden!:
 
user3010322
 
Why is it SO's problem that you can't find anything on the rest of the internet?
 
@jackopen they often enough do. But seeing your resume it looks like you are not willing to learn or take advice, so people will incline to not help you any more. And for good reason obviously. You seem to have no interest in learning but only in getting your problems solved by others. that's not the way of SO.
 
mass flag his next message?
 
I once went into a doctor's forum, and they didn't tell me where to ask questions about quantum mechanics.
Bunch of jerks they were.
 
3:29 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes aholes
 
Don't flag
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@R.MartinhoFernandes OH NOES!
 
@CatPlusPlus not even a co-ordinated strike?
 
those mother fuckers
 
uh someone has been busy downvoting him ^^
 
@ArneMertz yeah, been wondering myself
 
lol
 
@ScarletAmaranth wondering how he can still chat....
 
now he got in, does he get to keep chatting? or does the low rep auto-stop him chatting?
 
3:31 PM
r.: what is that link for?
 
@ArneMertz I don't think he can :) oh he can! I stand corrected, I think he needs to leave the room first
 
he can :(
 
Xeo
@ThePhD that looks extremely boring
 
@jackopen you can go there to talk about SO
 
@jackopen do you mind just quickly leaving the room and coming back :)?
 
3:31 PM
@jackopen Have you considered clicking on it and finding out. You know, "learning" stuff. Doing research. That is generally how people find answers to questions
You should try it some time
 
@ScarletAmaranth lol
 
sure
thanks for advice all of you
 
@jackopen dude, check here for some advice on using chat
 
@jalf whut? could be dangerous!!!
 
@thecoshman highfive
 
user3010322
3:32 PM
@Xeo Older game on the SNES. It's actually quite fun. :D
 
Xeo
@jalf I heard learning has negative effects on your brain
 
@thecoshman he does not click links
 
i am sorry if i hurt anybody/SO!!
 
@ScarletAmaranth Is it enough if we put the room in Gallery mode momentarily?
 
Xeo
or you can just ignore him
 
3:33 PM
@jackopen you didn't hurt anyone, you're just an ass
 
my boss went home
 
@JerryCoffin I wouldn't know, but a boy can dream
 
it mean I can go home too right
 
just mass plonk the lazy fuck
 
yeah, plonk.
 
3:34 PM
bye all
 
You're being more annoying than him atm
 
inb4 'what is plonk'
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth *girl, since you just said something about twin tails
 
Xeo is a girl, she should know
 
@Xeo oh ye, I am totally pulling the look off
 
3:35 PM
@Xeo vOv I could have ponytails if i wanted too
 
user3010322
CatPlusPlus is a lesbian, Xeo is a girl, Scarlet is a girl.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus well fuck. I'm certainly not very bendable for a girl, as I've just proven during physio.
 
I used to have one @thecoshman
 
user3010322
Etienne said something about being a lesbian, but I think the claim has since dropped.
 
all the boys want to be lesbians
 
3:35 PM
@Xeo hows the treatment coming along? leg hurting less yet?
 
@A.H. oh yeah, I meant pig tails
 
He most problay wouldnt even care if we gave him a link that answers his question.
 
user3010322
So now the only viable ship is a love triangle between Xeo, Scarlett, and CatPlusPlus, with Scarlett being the other woman.
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth rather, more, after that guy tried to bend me into a pretzel shape
 
@ThePhD @ScarletAmaranth did not sound female IIRC from Mumble
 
3:36 PM
maybe it was AH
 
@TonyTheLion She's lesbian.
 
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@TonyTheLion Voices can be decieving!
 
I keep mistaking them BECAUSE FUCKING AVATARS FUCKERS
 
@TonyTheLion it's the low bandwidth, makes your voice sound deep
 
@Xeo o_O what?! :D
@TonyTheLion oh damn, we mumbl'd, you blew my cover
 
3:36 PM
ahahahahaha
 
@BartekBanachewicz I changed mine to help with that, but I think it sucks...
 
also please don't impersonate women TIA
 
@Xeo chiropractor?
 
@A.H. oh right you did
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth stretching the sciatic nerve
 
3:37 PM
@BartekBanachewicz bad memories?
inb4 cicada
 
inb4 cicada
 
Xeo
and my left leg really doesn't like being stretched atm
 
@Xeo well, at least they have identified the cause and know a way to treat it!
 
whois cicada?
 
inb4 your mom
 
3:37 PM
Purrformance
 
an insect
 
@TonyTheLion bad mammaries
 
a bug
@thecoshman lulz
 
@thecoshman calm your tits
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth Rotten Scallion now
 
3:38 PM
@ScarletAmaranth good job
 
butthurt guy
 
@thecoshman yeah it was an enjoyable read
 
@thecoshman thanks! it's been like that for a year now :)
 
@TonyTheLion he's yet to learn to lube.
 
I recently took my blog offline
 
3:38 PM
faultless really.
 
cause I never posted to it
fail
 
There are two types of blogs in this world. Ones that never get updated.
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus also, I can't believe that's still being continued. Just because I had a female anime character as an avatar. :/
 
Never forget
 
Xeo
what about @Mysticial, he has had nothing else
 
3:39 PM
my coworker has now spent over 2hrs trying to change the upload limit of IIS 6 :/
surely IIS 6 isn't that terrible?
 
> IIS
 
@TonyTheLion I'IS
 
I got an interview in a few minutes with some journalist.
 
I was skeptical from the start
 
3:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel about your recent sex change?
 
@ScarletAmaranth Smooth.
 
@EtiennedeMartel about you being a pony fan?
 
But no. I like my penis.
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@EtiennedeMartel have a star
 
that doesn't really deserve a star surely
 
3:42 PM
let me decide the way I allocate my precious stars will you!
 
@TonyTheLion vOv stars are worthless, star everything.
 
@TonyTheLion Everything deserves a star
 
@rightfold do you actually own rightfold.org?
 
yay 15 hours of sleep!
 
3:44 PM
lucky you
oh yay, I'm also lucky, 4 day weekend ahead
 
@Crowz that's my weekly dose
 
@TonyTheLion You're just jealous of my penis.
 
man, Niebler resurrected the ranges mailing list!
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth what kind of voodoo did he use?
 
3:48 PM
Did you know you can watch me be really terrible at Crawl at crawl.s-z.org
 
@Xeo that's a very good question, what I am sure of is that many a sacrifice has had to have been made for that to happen
(I am not sure if that's proper English :P)
 
@CatPlusPlus no I can't! Work filter :(
 
@ScarletAmaranth don't use pointers for god's sake
fuck pointers
 
pointers are good at what they do, just don't confuse them with handles / owners of stuff
 
no, use std::reference_wrapper
or std::optional
 
3:53 PM
how about no?
 
pointers are useful things
 
but.. but it's sexy! it even has the std:: prefix!
 
@Jefffrey std::pointer
 
I mean, anything with an std:: prefix must be perfect, right?
 
3:54 PM
you mean like, how the Lounge spends more time pissing on std:: than appreciating std::?
 
@A.H. namespace std { using pointer<Type> = Type*; }
I don't know what I mean, tbh
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I appreciate the standard.
 
It would be helpful if at least you knew before you asked us
 
: - / I don't like these waves of: "hate x under all circumstances" scott meyers style
 
I appreciate scott too
he's such a badass
<3
 
3:59 PM
I found Vlad ^^
 
where
 

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