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9:00 AM
those are recruiters you know
they don't really count as responses
or rather, one response from a company is worth at least 20 of those
but I found a non-shitty offer where I'm going to apply first
 
@sbi @puppy give us a bone here hombre
 
tweaking my CV right now
 
@sbi IIRC he was diagnosed with C++
6
 
Xeo
@thecoshman He's working, he has no time for silly things such as chat
 
@Cicada at least you can move somewhere else. I have to sit here and finish my education.
 
9:01 AM
@BartekBanachewicz twerking doesn't help you get jobs... well...
@Xeo oh yes, he's totes pro now
 
@BartekBanachewicz Peasant
 
@Cicada slacker
 
@sbi I have trouble with things trying to leave my digestive system through the other end, so I would guess it's not that (IANAD, but since it's a symptom-based diagnosis and I lack the symptoms...).
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You must be pregnant.
There is no other explanation.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes My secret weapon against digestive problems is rye. Cook it for 3 minutes, turn the stove off, leave it on the stove for another 45 minutes, dispose of the excess water, put salad on it. Your rear end will produce output like there's no tomorrow.
 
9:05 AM
@FredOverflow lol
 
Also lacking the most important symptoms for pregnancy.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, I didn't say this applies to you. I just thought that puppy had a diagnosis, but then found it's a "symptom-based" one. IIRC, I have given the puppy the same advice as I gave to you a few mins ago: A doctor can help you if you break your leg, caught a cold, or got Ebola. If you come with unspecific symptoms, they are often not very helpful. Sure, a thorough diagnosis can find a definite cause, but IME that's rather unlikely.
Usually all they can do is to help you to understand where your problem comes from.
But then, you having logged what you ate, your sleep patterns etc. seems a good start.
 
If it's Ebola I'll go down in history as the longest survivor.
 
@FredOverflow And I guess next will be extreme hunger.
 
@sbi That's why the Telefonjoker is only helpful on Günter Jauch if you already know who to ask :)
 
9:07 AM
@sbi yeah, lack of something like that is part of the reason I haven't checked it out before.
 
(Who to ask? Whom to ask?)
 
user1804599
baka
 
@sbi Weird. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they leave to enthusiastic, or are they reluctant?
 
What do you mean reluctant?
I am talking about vomiting.
 
9:08 AM
So you're constipated?
Too much template metaprogramming will probably do that to you. ;P
 
sbi
@FredOverflow I am hard-pressed there. Yes, I know who he is, know he has a show, and have heard of the phone joker. But having lived without a TV since 1990 I have never seen the show, so I only have a rather generic understanding of the reference.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, so it's not even getting to the business end :P
@R.MartinhoFernandes constipated fool :P
 
@Fred a good rule of thumb is to use "whom" if you would use Dativ or Akkusativ in German.
 
user1804599
whomb
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Crohn's disease? Coeliac disease?
 
9:09 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes better rule of thumb, 'who' is never wrong, 'whom' is just sometimes better.
 
user1804599
wat
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's the rule I get by with, but I always wondered whether it is correct.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just because you know I'm right here :P
 
@sbi Oh, better one: use "whom" if you'd use "me".
 
9:11 AM
@sbi IIRC it's basically, if you can say "it was him", you should asking "whom was it"
 
"Ask me" => "Whom to ask"
 
but like I said, 'who' is never wrong :P
 
user1804599
I would never take English advice from thecoshman.
 
@sbi Private constructor was ok
 
sbi
9:13 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes That is the same, because "me" is used when the Dativ/Akkusativ would be used in a non-degenerated language.
 
This idiom should be used more often. It's hilarious.
 
Dativ always confused me
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey Wtf is that supposed to be.
 
@thecosh I think you picked the worst example possible.
 
@Xeo Who needs a GC? Just make all your objects suicidal!
 
9:14 AM
Namely, the question is wrong, because "it was him" is an exception.
 
@thecoshman What? "Whom was it?" No. Just no.
 
sbi
@Jefffrey Calling delete this from the dtor is certainly nonsense. If you hadn't leaked the object, this "program" would have gone down the drain.
 
vOv just use 'who'
@R.MartinhoFernandes :P
 
6
Q: "I didn't realize it was him."

John DiblingOverheard on an elevator today, I didn't realize it was him. Corrected by the know-it-all, He. "I didn't realize it was he." The know-it-all then went on a rant about how everybody is a dolt for not knowing that. I swear I have never heard this before in my life. Is the know-it-all...

 
shouldn't you be going to the doctor?
 
9:16 AM
> It's big, bright, and loud! I've poured many a cans of beer and pop on mine and used it as an ashtray for a cigar or two, its still glowing and clicking away.
 
user1804599
That's done wrong by Dutch people a lot in Dutch.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion He can't get into the bathroom.
 
who the hell does that to their keyboard
 
@sbi lol
 
@rightføld yeah, "better than me" and such
same mistake is made in English though
 
9:17 AM
@sbi Germany is funny, why do you keep your doctors in the bathrooms?
 
yay more mails
 
I feel like that "yay" is sarcastic
 
sbi
@thecoshman Aren't you living in Britain? Then I don't think you're in a position to look down your nose on any other country's health service.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Hi Bartek, would you like to work for us at PornHub? Sincerely RecruiterFromHell.
 
sbi
How does one "work a PornHub"? Sounds steamy.
 
9:21 AM
@sbi what do you mean by 'Britain'?
 
@sbi I can't english today
 
sbi
@thecoshman GB?
 
He's in Ireland
you suck
 
user1804599
I want to try bulrush.
 
user1804599
YIL they are edible.
 
sbi
9:22 AM
@TonyTheLion Ah, indeed. he is from England, though, isn't he?
 
@sbi yea
 
@sbi then no, not for three+ years
@sbi quite.
 
sbi
FWIW, my sister and her husband lived in England for years. They decided to move back when she became pregnant, because the last thing they both wanted was to have a baby there. :(
 
@sbi Because of the language?
 
sbi
@VáclavZeman No! (My in-law worked as a teacher.) Because of the abysmally bad health service in the UK.
 
9:25 AM
@sbi Cannot be that bad...
 
they both lived in England for years yet they don't want to have the baby there ... doesn't make sense, surely if they both have good health, the baby isn't going to be sick all the times?
 
sbi
@VáclavZeman Oh, I am sure it's worse in west Africa. But then, it's also much cheaper there.
 
> Always prefer post-increment unless you specifically require the semantics of pre-increment. The reason is that post-increment is read lvalue first, i.e. so its operand appears on the left side. WAT
 
sbi
@chmod711telkitty Obviously, you neither have own children not are you much around people who have.
 
@sbi I thought UK health service was state paid.
 
user1804599
9:27 AM
If the result of ++ matters, you're already doing it wrong.
 
user1804599
++ should return void.
 
@sbi gosh I wish my neighbours didn't have kids - all that screaming
 
@chmod711telkitty didn't
 
Xeo
@sbi *nor
 
@FredOverflow Yes. That's accurate. For pre-increment ++'s value is read first. What are you confusing with?
:P
 
9:28 AM
@rightføld Huh? Why? I would expect T&.
 
sbi
@Xeo sigh. The lion can't spell, I can't type today.
 
user1804599
Because you're doing dangerous shit (mutating) and that should stand out.
 
@VáclavZeman He's being the radical rightfold.
 
sbi
@MarkGarcia In this case he's wrongfold, though.
 
@Ell pretty much anything with plugins I guess :D
 
sbi
9:29 AM
@chmod711telkitty Non sequitur.
 
Blender is awesome if used with Unity to make a game, because Unity can open .blend files natively
so you can edit .blend files while working with the engine, and on changes, Unity will reload them in the scenes
this removes any export to format/import from format process involved in other situations
 
@sbi you said I wasn't around people who have children much, I told you that I was because they were my next door neighbours and I knew they had children around because those kids screamed all the times ...
 
sbi
> Just been told that a project here has code that autogenerates Manager classes. And they have a SingletonController class. #AmRunning #FastKevlin Henney
@chmod711telkitty But does that bring you into a position where you know how often one of said children needed a doctor during their first year?
 
I am not only around people who have children, I am surrounded by them
 
@TonyTheLion hey, that could be interesting
 
sbi
9:34 AM
Oh, look, fresh in and so fitting:
UK doctors to be paid £55 for each diagnosis of dementia. What could possibly go wrong? *headdesk* http://www.bbc.com/news/health-29718618
 
user1804599
lol
 
lol
British Healthcare System: promoting dementia since 2014.
 
user1804599
Do they do that in Germany as well?
 
user1804599
inb4 robot has dementia
4
 
sbi
Anyway, I'd better concentrate on my tests...
 
9:37 AM
lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz you don't happen to know of any awesome keyboard in a budget in which a razer blackwidow would fit, right? I can't find anything to really impress me
I was planning to get a mechanical gaming keyboard and a graphics tablet but seeing this, now I'm thinking about dropping the tablet and using the money to get a Corsair Vengeance K70
it's the only keyboard that really made me want to buy it
(but it's twice the price of the blackwidow)
 
Please don't start the keyboard discussion again
 
what discussion? :O
 
oh man, there was some discussion about keyboards in here that lasted an entire afternoon
 
lol that is a valid statement for pretty much every discussion here
 
9:44 AM
yea but that one was particularly annoying
and boring
 
meh, I'll just get the corsair, romanian stores don't seem to have anything else to interest me anyway
 
Natural keyboards FTW!
...runs...
 
There's a Matlab codegolf thingie now
it measures your solution by two metrics: correct output and shortness in parser structure.
 
I've sneezed.
 
Which is a ridiculous metric
Because then they are saying the parser is the slow part of Matlab.
 
9:47 AM
@rubenvb Well, isn't shortness of some kind the essence of programming-golfing?
 
@VáclavZeman But it's a "test and improve your Matlab skills" kind of self-tutor thing.
Like project euler, but then simplistic.
It's ridiculous.
 
@VáclavZeman The heck is a natural keyboard
oh. god.
 
@Jefffrey Bent or split one.
 
that is nasty
 
The Microsoft Natural Keyboard is a computer keyboard introduced in 1994. It was designed for Microsoft by Ziba Design. The keyboard was a split keyboard with each half of the keyboard separated and tilted upwards and down from the center of the keyboard. This key arrangement was ergonomically designed to prevent carpal tunnel syndrome and other repetitive strain injuries associated with typing for long periods of time. Another innovation was the integrated wrist pad helping to ensure correct posture while sitting at the computer and further reducing strain on the neck, arms and wrists. This keyboard...
 
user1804599
9:52 AM
An unnatural keyboard.
 
playing dark souls on that thing is probably harder than playing it on a rock band guitar controller
 
user1804599
Natural keyboards have natural shapes, i.e. square.
 
(a guy finished dark souls with a rock band guitar controller)
 
this is sexy
 
user1804599
9:52 AM
@AlexM. lol
 
user1804599
terrible
 
why is everyone posting pics of broken keyboards
 
oh you
 
user1804599
Speaking of terrible.
 
9:54 AM
 
user1804599
I just wrote this 120 LOC function.
 
More like this one.
 
it's windy outside
i like wind
and black clouds
 
user1804599
racist
 
I like this one but the mutilated insert/delete pair is retarded :(
 
9:55 AM
I usually do too, but today I did not
 
user1804599
oh wait you said black clouds not white clouds
 
user1804599
it's fine then
 
washed my hair, dried it out then went outside
ugh
so cold
 
user1804599
@VáclavZeman control is next to A there, silly.
 
9:56 AM
@rightføld No, it is not...
 
user1804599
@VáclavZeman It clearly says "Caps Lock" there.
 
user1804599
And it's well-known that caps lock is control in any sane configuration.
 
@rightføld And your message clearly says "control" there...
Well. Not in mine. :)
 
user1804599
@VáclavZeman I was referring to sane configurations only.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. burqa
 
9:57 AM
@rightføld Are you trying to suggest insanity on my part! :D
 
I really like it
 
I have this crappy shitboard at home content.hwigroup.net/images/products/xl/101227/…
I think it's 7 years old now
man that's a long time
 
It's not overly expensive either and hasn't broken in like 5 years.
 
user1804599
scissor switch or bust
 
@rubenvb Don't you hate the double height DEL key?
 
10:05 AM
@AlexM. CM Storm?
Also Blackwidow isn't bad
 
@rightføld giggidy
 
heard blackwidow 2014 has some... uh, issues
forgot what issues those were
(blackwidow 2013 didn't have them)
 
@VáclavZeman oh, I didn't see it at first, now I'm unsettled by it
 
@AlexM. well then, find a 2013 model? :P
 
@AlexM. I would hate that there is no space between the arrow keys and the delete/end/pgdown block.
I actually had one keyboard like that but the keys were like sleep/suspend. You can imagine what sometimes has happened when used the arrow keys.
 
10:10 AM
@BartekBanachewicz that's tricky, they're not sold anymore here :(
also no cm storms
@VáclavZeman I didn't notice it until now
guess I had time to get used to it in these 7 years lol
 
Can I assume creating a closure with a lambda is efficient in C++?
Can I create lambdas in inner loops binding to loop index efficiently?
 
sbi
@rubenvb I have the same, at home and at work. Mine at work is probably almost 10 years old, and the lettering on the left shift key is slowly coming off. Otherwise, it's fantastic.
 
@BartekBanachewicz sure, for what ever definition of 'efficient' makes this true.
 
user1804599
10:27 AM
@BartekBanachewicz profile
 
user1804599
You can't assume anything.
 
I wonder why AMD keeps pins on the processor instead of the motherboards
Intel keeps them on motherboards
last time I had an AMD I broke one of the pins accidentally and it was a $230 processor :(
if I did the same now, I'd only have to replace a $30 motherboard
 
Xeo
My mobo was ~100eur
 
that's some expensive mobo :D
I got the motherboard when I broke the processor, so I went with the fastest Intel i5 I could afford, and the cheapest mb that had SATA 3 and USB 3 support
this was some 3 years ago
 
Xeo
It was one of the cheaper ones with Z97 chipset
 
10:35 AM
I must admit I'm confused you have even put a bounty on a question that is clearly about a compiler bug. If you wanted to ask about workarounds, could you edit the question accordingly? — sehe 35 secs ago
@R.MartinhoFernandes whistles
Are you applying for the new derpstorm position?
You'll need to talk to @ThePhD first
 
a C related question (not C++)
?
 
@AlexM. Good keyboards last longer
 
can I ask?
 
@sehe I'm actually surprised my interest in it lasted that long
the reason I want a new keyboard is that I got bored of it and want to see the difference between the current kb and more expensive ones
 
user1804599
@Mahesha999 No.
 
10:40 AM
@Mahesha999 what makes you think you could have asked a C++ question?
 
Contributor: 'uint16_t is already defined in stdint.h as an unsigned 16 bit integer type. You should just omit your typedef'

OP: 'yes, but why is it causing redecleration error ?'

[sigh]
 
user1804599
 
Following a discussion with Eric Niebler, it turns out that C++14 comes with better constants: template<typename Type> constexpr Type constant {}; constexpr auto const& foo = constant<foo_type>; as an alternative to constexpr foo_type foo {};.
 
Xeo
10:56 AM
What's the point in that?
 
There’s exactly one program-wide object (the one referred to by foo).
And thus inline void am_i_an_odr_violation() { odr_use(&foo); } is fine.
 
Xeo
ah, ok
 
Now if only template<typename Type, Type Init = Type {}> constexpr Type literal_constant = Init; was possible :(
Well, if it was general enough really.
 
11:23 AM
@VáclavZeman nope. I'm an azerty guy as well.
So maybe my opinion will not follow general statistics :-p
 
@rubenvb Mon Dieu!
 
@VáclavZeman Sacré Blue!
 
@VáclavZeman na nase qwertz to nema :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth To je také zlo. Moje česká klávesnice je zásadně qwerty.
 
@VáclavZeman ja slovensku klavesnicu ani nemam nainstalovanu :)
not like anyone could ever agree on any standard way of doing anything; ever
 
11:27 AM
Lounge is surprisingly quiet
 
QWERTY sucks, but I can touch type on it so no point in switching
 
> That song makes me want to commit suicide
> Ha dida get a cookie wonda kwaa!
 
Ell
This Ethernet over power thing is so finnicky!
 
@Ell power over Ethernet
 
Ell
Oh
That doesn't sound right o.O
I mean Ethernet through the mains electricity
 
11:44 AM
electricity through the mains Ethernet
I'm boooooooored.
 
@Ell it goes both ways
there's PoE and there's Ethernet over power socket
 
@Jefffrey Prolly more left overnight - seems to be a thing lately.
 
Hi guys i have a problem with simple c++ code sure you can help
 
user1804599
Why are you sure of that?
 
@MrAbdul SSCCE
please
thank you
 
11:49 AM
because you guys are smart? hhaah
int x=2;
int y=1;
int z=0;
cout<< "answer = "<<(x|| !y&&z)<<endl;
 
That's not a SSCCE
 
user1804599
@MrAbdul No, we're not.
 
what will it display and why?
 
user1804599
We're all incredibly dumb. That's why we use C++.
 
come on please guys this is very important
11
 
11:51 AM
lol
 
user1804599
It's not important for me.
 
@MrAbdul Why don't you run it?
 
i did
 
user1804599
And I'm pretty sure it isn't for Jefffrey either.
 
it returns 1
and i don't understand why
 
11:51 AM
because bool
 
can you please explain this bit in english (x|| !y&&z)
what is it doing?
 
"x or not y and z"
 
but it is not comparing anything?
 
@MrAbdul What C++ book are you reading?
 
user1804599
@MrAbdul Yes, it means x ∨ ¬y ∧ z
 
11:53 AM
c++ for everyone 2nd edition
 
@MrAbdul And they don't explain this in the book?
It's fairly basic stuff.
 
no this question is in a test revision
yah i know i just want to make sure that i fully understand it
 
Then give me your explanation.
I'll tell you if you have fully understood it.
 
okay i think that it is checking if x is set to any value or not y and z?
 
user1804599
All your conjunction are belong to us.
 
11:57 AM
@MrAbdul no
it's not checking if x is set to any value
 
then what is checking?
but it is checking for something yah?
 
also how is (x || !y && z) grouped?
 
user1804599
It's an error.
 
What's the associativity of ||, && and !?
 
11:58 AM
or, and, not?
 
Xeo
@rightføld That's just a warning, though
 
lol
 
user1804599
Warnings are errors in my world.
 

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