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12:00 AM
 
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these buggers are as agressive as they look, and deadly
 
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nothing a lawnmower can't win, though.
 
I popped australia from the list of places I want to visit
without actually visiting it
 
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@Rapptz whom
 
Ell
@aclarke lol
@aclarke dem mandibles
 
12:01 AM
@aclarke whom is incorrect there
 
I like Romania
such a peaceful place
 
@Rapptz What were you replying to?
 
our animals are really small
 
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@Rapptz /shrug. I could never tell, and last nights discussion did little to help.
 
the only venomous animal we have is a snake that lives high in the mountains and in very few numbers
 
12:01 AM
@Borgleader You.
 
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@AlexM. yeah! Oh look, a vole! STAND BACK!
 
Who is Felicia Day? Why do I care who she is? Who is the guy white knighting? etc.
 
we don't have tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis
we do have an earthquake every now and then but nothing that bad
 
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@AlexM. that's a plus
 
The 1977 Vrancea Earthquake occurred on Friday, 4 March 1977, 21:20 local time and was felt throughout the Balkans. It had a magnitude of 7.2 with an epicenter in Vrancea (in the Eastern Carpathians) at a depth of 94 kilometers (58 mi). The earthquake killed about 1,578 people (1,424 in Bucharest) in Romania, and wounded more than 11,300. Among the victims was the Romanian actor Toma Caragiu. Nicolae Ceaușescu suspended his official trip to Nigeria. About 35,000 buildings were damaged, and the total damage was estimated at more than two billion dollars. Most of the damage was concentrated in Romania...
this is pretty much the only earthquake worth mentioning in the history of Romania
 
12:03 AM
@Rapptz She's played on TV (Buffy, Supernatural) she was in/made the webseries The Guild she does a bunch of online stuff. Her article seems to be gamergate related (I haven't read it yet, just started).
 
we get small earthquakes regularly, but those barely make things shake in your house
 
Another one bites the dust.
 
user1646075
@AlexM. noooo, really, it's safe. Just watch out for the dropbears in spring, and you'll be fine
 
then again, there's constant seismic activity on a global scale so...
 
user1646075
@AlexM. wow, that's big. Australia is basically geologically dead as far as that goes. extra-ordinarily rare in any form, although there has been one or two serious ones in the short recorded history.
 
12:06 AM
@aclarke I remember reading about a myth or something, from Australia
let me see if I can remember the name
it was about a trucker and this dead chick
 
user1646075
no other details? doesn't ring a bell
 
the pilliga princess yeah bitey.com/2005/04/the-piliga-princess
man I love shit like this
 
user1646075
lookin...
 
last time I spent 5 hours reading about the dyatlov pass incident
the creepier the better
just not before going to sleep
which is what I'll do now
 
user1646075
heh - ghost stories.
 
user1646075
12:09 AM
never heard of her. Have you seen the movie "Wolf Creek" ?
 
ghost stories are awesome
there was this other one that I found very fascinating
@aclarke nope
 
user1646075
must see. very good sinister horror movie in "the outback" from 5-10 years ago
 
this!
The S.S. Ourang Medan was a ghost ship, which according to various sources, became a shipwreck in Indonesian waters after its entire crew had died under suspicious circumstances. Skepticism exists about the truthfulness of the story, suggesting that the ship may have never actually existed, but has become something of a legend. == The ship == The earliest known English reference to the ship and the incident is in the May 1952 issue of the Proceedings of the Merchant Marine Council, published by the United States Coast Guard. The word Ourang (also written Orang) is Malay or Indonesian for "man"...
sometimes I wish human imagination wasn't a thing
and these existed
 
user1646075
hah. glad they don't!
 
> A radio operator aboard the troubled vessel sent the following Morse code message: "S.O.S. from Ourang Medan * * * we float. All officers including the Captain, dead in chartroom and on the bridge. Probably whole of crew dead * * *." A few confused dots and dashes later two words came through clearly. They were "I die." Then, nothing more.
shit this is so awesome eeeek
ok off to bed
cya
 
user1646075
12:12 AM
sweet dreams!
 
ok..
that's a new one
[1] 15004 illegal hardware instruction (core dumped) ./a.out
 
user1646075
@nightcracker sounds like you've messed the stack and are now executing data after a return?
 
probably
as I said, this is the worst code I've ever written
 
user1646075
fun!
 
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heh
 
12:14 AM
and I'm done with this shit
fuck them, I'm going to use smart pointers
 
user1646075
remember RAII ?
 
it's an university assignment
where "modern" means c++98
 
@aclarke Nuke them
 
Ell
@nightcracker are you not allowed smart pointers?
 
user1646075
they'd probably survive it better than humans. Radioactive glowing funnel webs rampaging through the twisted wreckage of the cities, looking for survivors to pile on the insult
 
user1646075
12:22 AM
GODDD. CSS. I'll swap you for your assignment.
 
Ell
I also just had a thought about how you could do move semantics in c++98
although I guess it wouldn't really be an optimisation
 
@Ell That's called auto_ptr.
 
Ell
I mean, correctly. IIRC auto_ptr "moved" on copy didn't it?
 
It was a mutable copy, so almost not entirely crazy.
 
Ell
actually it'd be impossible without explicitly moving everywher
 
12:27 AM
Fucking Haystack
 
@Ell Yes, pretty much.
 
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@Ell That's why rvalue references were important--to let the compiler deduce (many) times that something could be used as the source of a move.
 
@CatPlusPlus Facebook?
 
Facebook what
 
12:33 AM
Haystack?
 
nvm
 
@aclarke What is this...
It looks like a giant koala eating a pony
 
user1646075
@Nooble a drop bear
 
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named 'cos they drop out of the trees onto their victim
 
user1646075
12:39 AM
there's only a few carniverous marsupials apart from them.
 
Ha! They are related to Koalas, according to a very trusted source.
 
user1646075
wiki is spoiling all the fun. That story used to genuinely fool the tourists. I swear, it worked every time
 
Damn it!
I skimmed the article.
Actually thought it was real.
You win this time...
 
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damn!!
 
The picture to the left is a very realistic rendition.
 
Ell
12:41 AM
I wish I could use <> to group types
 
@Ell You can. std::tuple<types, to, group>
 
Seriously that is one good artist.
 
user1646075
hmmm - i've never seen the museum displays - and I've taken my 1st-born there several times.
 
Ell
@JerryCoffin sorry, I meant like *<some big complex type>
well
 
@Borgleader wut?
 
12:43 AM
@aclarke Is your first-born named Adrian?
 
Ell
<some big complex type>* to be a pointer to a big complex type
because (some big complex type)* is parsed as a function type
 
user1646075
@Nooble no, he's my guru.
 
user1646075
but my first-born's name means "Little King" - be careful what you name your spawn. Seriously.
 
Little King huh?
Hmm...
 
user1646075
yup - in welsh or something foreign
 
user1646075
12:45 AM
some wierd european language like that.
 
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:->>
 
@aclarke God I wish I were a PHB and this was in a report, so I could advise you to correct the spelling (s/carniverous/carnivorous/) while missing the minor detail that the whole sentence is nonsense! :-)
 
Does it start with an R?
 
user1646075
yeah, i saw the spolling mistaik too late. oh well
 
Ryan?
:D
 
user1646075
12:47 AM
but, there are carnivorous marsupials. Quall, Tasmanian Devil (real animals), Quokker I think, the extinct tiger
 
user1646075
damn you internet
 
Ell
tasmanian devils are almost extinct I thought
 
user1646075
they are plentiful, but there's a majorly serious virus giving them horrible cancers of the face, it's quite a crisis actually.
 
I've never actually seen a picture of a real Tasmanian devil, always thought they were fictitious beings from Looney Tunes.
Wow.
Looks like a cute mouse.
 
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they only live 3-4 years (due to their gross diet apparently - mostly carrion) and the virus kicks in really quickly and it's very contagious.
 
12:49 AM
Cute.
 
Ell
@aclarke yeah I watched a documentary a couple years ago about it
 
user1646075
they are well-named. The noise they make sounds like it's coming from the bowels of hell. The early explorers shitted themselves
 
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they are also nasty-tempered and can bite though your finger easily.
 
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some areas of tasmania don't have the virus yet, so it's a real struggle to keep a clean zone until a cure might be found.
 
12:51 AM
I'm sure any proficiently-sized animal, when aggravated, can bite off someone's finger.
 
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- also the tasmanian aboriginals had a habit of cutting step-holes in trees in a circular fashion, so from a distance the steps looked to be set for someone about 6 metres tall. That also made the early explorers shit themselves
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin you get a star sir, for having personal insight
 
There we go.
 
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@Nooble true, but pound-for-pound, their bite is supposed to be boss-level
 
Ell
@aclarke as in going around the tree?
 
user1646075
12:54 AM
him
 
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@Ell yup
 
@aclarke Boa Constrictors. They're truly scary.
I think suffocation would be the worst way to die.
 
user1646075
oh yeahhhhh - i reckon south america has the worst animals in that regard...
 
Roaches scare me more than snakes though.
 
Good morning.
 
12:57 AM
@MarkGarcia Lel
Morning?
 
@Nooble It is on our world.
 
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@Nooble new york roaches? for sure
 
user1646075
morning squire.
 
@aclarke Flying roaches...
Big flying ones.
 
user1646075
with 50mm canon
 
12:58 AM
With its wings clearly marked "US - AIRFORCE"
 
@Nooble Or forcing to suffocate yourself so you don't die... you still die.
 
@MarkGarcia Forcing yourself to not breath wouldn't work too well. You would pass out and continue breathing, right?
Am I the only one here deathly afraid of roaches?
 
@aclarke Someday I'll build an XXmm cannon, whose length is XXmm.
 
If I see a roach go into a room, I will not go to that room until the roach is confirmed dead.
M.I.A does not cut it for me.
 
@MarkGarcia I never got this joke.
 
1:01 AM
@Rapptz lol. Now you did?
 
No. Is it just shitty word play from Boa constrictor?
 
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@MarkGarcia "frikken cockroaches with frikken cannons on their heads" (apologies Dr. Evil)
 
@Rapptz lol yeah
 
Awful.
 
I know you hate puns.
 
1:02 AM
How dare he hate on puns.
Someone pun-ish him.
 
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someone pun-ch Nooble
 
I wouldn't feel your pun-y pun-ches.
 
@Nooble Only when they go inside your pants. You can either "smash" the pants in the air (I don't know the proper term), but you risk it creeping into your arms, or once it gets out you need your very best reflexes. You can fold and trap it inside and kill it, but that would be gross.
 
@MarkGarcia I prefer not touching them. At all.
When they land on me, I wriggle and run somewhere and close the door.
 
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@Nooble they'll hunt you down! They can squeeze under gaps and through keyholes!
 
1:07 AM
No... No... That... Can't possibly... NO!
The ones small enough to fit through those cannot fly.
I am only scared of flying ones.
 
user1646075
i thought all roaches had the power of flight
 
Really?
The small ones do not.
They don't have wings.
They might grow them.
 
user1646075
hmmm - wiki seems to back you up. our little ones also fly.
 
user1646075
but they only have light machine guns mounted.
 
What they need is some anti-personnel cannons.
 
user1646075
1:20 AM
@MarkGarcia haha - You were being clever about my spelling mistake? I stand by my spelink: canon.com.au/en-AU/Personal/Products/Cameras-and-Accessories/…
 
@Nooble The Holy Puntiff will now puntificate on your punsillanimousmess.
 
@aclarke lol. You mean you're the one who's being clever! I didn't even notice...
 
@JerryCoffin I can't beat this.
 
@Nooble Pansy punser!
 
@aclarke Or overthinking. :P
 
Ell
1:24 AM
wooooo
 
@JerryCoffin Punsy*
@Ell Wooooooo!
 
Ell
my open multi method works with references now
 
Celebrate!
 
user1646075
YEEEE-HAAAA!
 
Ell
By works I mean dispatch works. no idea how much copying etc. is going on :S
 
user1646075
1:25 AM
what are we cheering?
 
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oh. Well done you.
 
Cake for you!
 
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@Nooble I know you don't have one!
 
@MarkGarcia Why of course I do!
 
1:29 AM
@Mysticial T-Shirt has a math formula and "Who you gonna call?", you're good at this math thing so I'm gonna call you :P
 
I'm actually not that great at math. I'm just better than the average programmer. :)
 
I'm horrible at math compared to most of you guys.
You know, all this playing Kerbal is making me want to go to the moon.
 
I think I'm good at math.
 
How good?
Reeaaallll Gooooddd?
 
@Rapptz What area?
 
1:31 AM
@Mysticial ... Arithmetic!
 
@Mysticial under the curve
 
Calculus, Mathematical Analysis, Combinatorics, Game Theory, etc.
 
For me, I know a bit of number theory. But that's because I had to in order to write that pi program.
 
I take pre calc next year.
 
I think I'm pretty decent at math. I know I'm good enough to help people with math, solve math problems, and do a good chunk of Project Euler.
I think people in general think you're good at math if you could just do your own taxes which is pretty basic.
 
user1646075
1:33 AM
I learned so much math I could only use x and y, and now that I've forgotten all that, I can't even work out change at the shops.
 
Based on the Project Euler questions I see on SO, it looks like it's all number theory.
 
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I heard, every answer is solved with print "42\n"
 
I remember one other guy in this chat who was good at Project Euler.
But he no longer posts here. I wish he did though.
 
@aclarke This puts into question why they even teach higher level math if the most of people are going to forget it.
 
Marcus Stuhr, New York, United States
66 1 5
Him ^
 
1:35 AM
Maybe math teaches kids how to concentrate?
 
He's actually a Project Euler admin/contributor now I think.
 
I don't know.
 
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@Nooble It makes you think mathematically, and that doesn't go away. I stopped using it 'cos I stopped working with engineers and started working with accountants.
 
@Mysticial A good chunk is Number Theory but there's also a lot of Combinatorics, sequences, etc.
Project Euler is pretty diversified I think.
 
> cos
 
1:36 AM
When people ask questions on SO I think they mainly ask from questions 0 to 60.
 
user1646075
will you stop punning please?
 
@MarkGarcia Lel
Honestly, for most people I know, I don't think higher level mathematics is going to give them an advantage in their career of choice.
 
Define 'higher level mathematics'.
 
@Rapptz Well... I guess I would say the ones outside of normal use.
 
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I am very serious. If I make a joke or a pun, it's accidental, and I do not appreciate being treated like a *<|:-)
 
1:39 AM
That's a pretty cruddy definition.
 
To the average programmer, "higher level mathematics" would probably be intro to probability or basic calculus.
 
Calculus
Yes.
 
Calculus is used immensely.
 
Correct
 
In everything.
 
1:39 AM
But not in every field.
 
Ell
@Nooble pretty much
 
Ell
I'm not sure what the semantics of my multi method should be
 
@Mysticial lol probability is higher level? :v
 
Ell
I mean, Parent* itself isn't polymorphic but Parent& is
@Rapptz I think it is
well
 
1:41 AM
It's not complicated.
It's just not taught.
 
Let's say...
 
Ell
not higher level, but not everyone knows when to use a binomial distribution and when to use a gaussian distribution
 
As a nurse.
How would you apply calculus.
 
Ell
@Rapptz yeah I agree with this
 
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@Ell i don't!
 
1:41 AM
@Rapptz Yeah. I'm basically saying that programmers suck at math. All my CS friends suck at math. None of my colleagues have math backgrounds.
 
Ell
@Nooble measuring blood flow speed
 
@Nooble The time it takes for medicine to go through the blood stream is determined through an indefinite integral.
 
@Ell How hard can this be?
 
Ell
@Mysticial isn't CS (not programming) just applied maths?
@Nooble let's say using ultrasound to do so
 
@Ell lolno.
 
1:42 AM
Granted, not very nurse-like but it's there :p
 
There's higher level probability, and higher level pure maths, and higher level applied mathematics. And they're all good for software developers - but there's sooo much that no one will ever know it all - its trikcy to even know enough.
 
Ell
@Mysticial but but category theory and lambda calculus and stuff :P
 
As a freshman in high school, I'm taking calculus next year I think. You guys are making it sound easy.
Tell me your secrets!
 
@Mysticial All the people going into CS I know complain about their 'math classes'.
@Nooble Calculus isn't Precalculus.
Pre-calculus is just a waste of time.
There's nothing 'calculus' about it
It's just Algebra II review.
 
@Rapptz I take pre calc first sem and calc the next.
 
1:44 AM
I loved my math classes. At least until I started taking the advanced applied math classes with proofs and shit.
 
Ell
What even is precalculus?
 
It's a crappy subject in the US.
 
Ell
@mysticial I find proofs the best bit of maths
Like most rewarding
 
You know what, I don't think I'm taking precalc because I chose to take an AP Computer Science elective.
 
I skipped out of the second half (which was Algebra II review).
The first half was trigonometry.
No calculus.
 
Ell
1:45 AM
Speaking of calculusv
 
Trig is easy.
 
Ell
I'm banging through 50 integrals tomorrow
@rapptz makes sense for pre calculus
 
It's a waste of time.
 
Ell
In fact as the name suggests I wouldn't expect any calculus :P
 
user1646075
@Nooble there is no secret.
 
1:46 AM
New York is really pushing this whole STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) thing.
 
user1646075
it hurts. Adapt
 
Ell
@rapptz you need trig before you integrate trig though right?
 
user1646075
maths will make you suffer.
 
@Ell The trigonometry is the least shitty part of it.
 
@aclarke Currently not suffering through Algebra II
 
user1646075
1:47 AM
They're lulling you into a false sense of security. And lolling about it.
 
Ell
I forgot what high school is
 
@Nooble Depends what you define 'trigonometry'.
Judging from your background, I'm guessing you mean 'geometry'.
 
Ell
Age range I mean
 
14-18.
 
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@Rapptz Triggernometry is the study of horses in cinema.
 
1:48 AM
@Rapptz Gasp You have revealed my age.
 
My advice - take as much maths as you can, and take it as far as you can. Employers love it. - thats whats got me most of my jobs.
 
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@MichaelAnderson AND KEEP UP WITH THE HOMEWORK!
 
@Rapptz Pretty much.
 
That's not trigonometry :p
 
@Rapptz Well, crap.
 
1:49 AM
well, not the trigonometry I mean anyway.
 
@Rapptz sin, cosin?
dot products?
What am I supposed to be learning.
 
[about a question] Can a 2Ker get the coursera tag off this post? stackoverflow.com/questions/25874453/…
 
@aclarke Speaking of which...
 
I got it off, but an 11Ker stuck it back on with no explanation.
 
Ell
And sec and cosec and cotan
And arcsec and arccos and arctan
 
user1646075
1:51 AM
@Nooble tut-tut. I'll put your DS on top of my wardrobe if you don't finish.
 
Ell
And all the others...
 
@Rapptz I guess and isn't necessary.
 
@aclarke But I need to play Pokemon!
 
user1646075
@Nooble pokemon can catch themselves.
 
Ell
and your trig identities
 
1:52 AM
@aclarke This would make for a funny spin off.
 
@MarkGarcia I noticed you have more than 2K; can you help remove the tag?
 
Oh god stupid EmberJS addon for the devtools is adding some shitty <script> nonsense that's getting sent with other stuff by TinyMCE
 
@Nooble Unit circle, trigonometric substitutions, trigonometric identities, etc.
 
@APerson You're so close!
 
Ell
And your solving of trig equations
 
1:52 AM
Everything so broken
 
user1646075
Q: How do you get Pikachu onto a bus?
A: You Pokémon.
 
law of cosines, law of sines
forget what else is in the basic trigonometry course
I think that's it
 
@Rapptz Ugh trig identities.
 
@MarkGarcia Pretty please? (alternatively, you could upvote all of my answers...)
 
Ell
Proofs of trig stuff
 
1:53 AM
I already removed the tag m80.
 
user1646075
now can you guys please polish my shoes?
 
Ell
Hmm what else am I supposed to know...
I'm at highschool level also
But a year behind :(
 
I had to take the SHSAT in 8th grade, and ended up actually going to a specialized high school in new york. Everything is accelerated here, and we dismiss late.
 
Thank you to everyone who fixed that question's tags!
 
Ell
That's what happens when you don't work hard enough :(
 
1:55 AM
Those convoluted identity equations that teachers give... I found some of them fun though.
 
While y'all are in a retagging mood... stackoverflow.com/questions/25346988/…
 
user1646075
@APerson we didn't want you to spit on us.
 
@aclarke spins up weapon of mass salivation
 
Cool and local time gets saved to the database instead of UTC
 
user1646075
1:55 AM
@nightcracker I think it's a C++ program, but can't be sure.
 
And the only AP Comsci course is Java.
Lulz.
 
@Nooble Agreed; they should make it Malboge instead.
 
@CatPlusPlus Please tell me there's at least a time offset.
 
@Nooble The written section would be especially interesting.
 
Yes, +00:00 because I'm not even going to investigate
I don't care
Someone else's problem
 
user1646075
1:57 AM
@APerson I heard, that if a girlie llama spits on a boy llama, he is not only rejected, but the other girlie llama's won't have sex with him for weeks.
 
user1646075
humans are like that.
 
Wouldn't know anything about that...
 
Then all those time adjustment boilerplate code to the UI.
 
user1646075
@APerson but - but - you're a llama
 
@aclarke What's the difference between girl and girlie?
 
1:58 AM
Makes for some good job preservation.
 
user1646075
@Nooble girlie is a diminuitive - which I'm sure Mark will correct
 
@aclarke Hehe
 

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