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4:00 PM
company chairman just listed "System Design" and "Software Development" as new skills on LinkedIn. fuck off
 
you guys seem to have little life - spending hours stalking people online (tweeter/reddit/tumblr) :p
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmmmmm.
You make me warm inside.
 
Who here uses VS and can answer a simple question?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 you'd do it too if you hadn't been blocked by half the internet
@Pawnguy7 I don't use VS, but I am capable of answering simple questions. See!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't lol ... always better things to do
never enough time :'(
 
4:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel :)
 
although someone might say that I am just wasting time on equally useless pursuits ~shrug~
 
Hm... anyway, for the screensaver, I had separated it into two parts, Engine and Generation. Apparently, though, they are.... virtual files, sort of. How can I make them physical directories?
Or, rather, make VS do it.
 
there's a "Show all files" button in solution explorer
 
I am confused. What would that change?
 
anybody used zoho for business ?
 
4:04 PM
Sometime I find it fancinating that a 200kg person weights the same as 4 50kg people
 
So, I should do a chart application for the uni in Qt. What kind of charts should I manage? Music CD sells? Tobacco prizes? My weekly alcohol assumption?
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 ...
 
@Jeffrey oil price or share price ...
 
@Jeffrey Perhaps something you find interesting?
 
@JerryCoffin There's nothing that I find interesting that can be shown in a chart. :(
 
Tin
4:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes any suggestion :-) ?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit better still: 300 kg person = 6 x 50kg people!
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Nice one :)
 
@Jeffrey Hmmm...I'm sorry to hear that.
 
@Jeffrey Boob size?
 
Yeah... that's kinda sad now that you make me think about it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol, that would be funny though
 
4:08 PM
so it is either 6 avg 50kg people in a max 300kg lift or 1 300kg person
 
@Pawnguy7 "virtual files"? just move the files in Explorer and readd them to VS
 
@Tin Sorry, no.
 
@Jeffrey Say that you measured all the boobs yourself.
 
@Jeffrey Given that you can chart almost anything, it seems to indicate that you find almost nothing interesting.
 
@DeadMG Boob softness then.
 
4:09 PM
reminds me of this old video clip:
 
lol
 
@DeadMG lol
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 Thin privilege is being able to ride a camel without killing it?
 
@JerryCoffin Stahp. :,(
@JerryCoffin Well, guitar and animations don't have that many attributes that are suitable for chart representation.
 
@thecoshman I heard my boss has an interview in an hour. I wonder if you have anything to do about it...?
 
4:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I meant to say, virtual directories, if that makes sense.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you could also be paying half the price since there were 2 people on every other camel - thin privilege. Although you could argue that if you were too fat, there would be no camel ride in the first place
 
@Pawnguy7 yes, it makes sense. My advice still applies.
 
I could do it manually, I feel VS must be able to somehow though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes man boob counts?
 
@Pawnguy7 Puppy told you already.
10 mins ago, by DeadMG
there's a "Show all files" button in solution explorer
 
4:13 PM
@Jeffrey Really? "Number of my guitar heroes who use Les Paul vs. Gibson vs., [insert more makes/models here] guitars"?
 
Manboobs are not boobs.
 
Tin
@R.MartinhoFernandes, thanks anyway!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Indeed.
 
4:15 PM
 
Here's a Venn diagram.
 
^ Bing maps birds eye view. Seems legit.
 
@JerryCoffin Hmm. Yeah. That is an idea. But I'm wondering for something weirder. Something my professor isn't expecting.
 
Also, that is not Nottingham Castle Marina...
 
@Jeffrey alcohol consumption for the past year for students in your year
although data would be hard to collect
 
@Jeffrey Number using fixed vs. floating bridges? Number of designs using two vs. three pickups? ...
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Erasing the records [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [no-helpdesk]
 
Well the chart application is generic though. It's not just one collection of data I make. It should manage collections of data (represented by charts). So that an user can create chart files specific for its own needs.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nokia maps, huh?
 
One, for example, created a CD Rating system. So that he can add music cds, rate them and it shows the charts regarding the number of stars each CD gets.
 
4:23 PM
@Jeffrey So you don't even have to worry about the subject matter. If you're going to do something weird, find some unusual (but highly informative) kinds of charts instead of the usual pie and 3D columns.
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah, I could also not worry about the subject. But other class mates says the professor loves it if you narrow data down to a specific kind.
 
I just convinced a friend to use SCM
I also convinced him that an MMO game is not good for a beginner.
All hail my reasoning skills.
 
@JerryCoffin Sorry, gotta go helping a friend out. BRB
 
TIL treshold is wrong spelling, and threshold is right
 
4:28 PM
Oh Tony Oh ...
3
 
I learned about this because I wondered where the 'h' came from in the ssthresh variable (in the context of TCP congestion avoidance).
 
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Q: Replacing the goto Statement

Epherm AsfawI have a very limited experiance with C++ and i wanted to replace the "goto" construct from my code. Any suggestion for refactorying too int main() { int count; int countSub = 0; int userCount = 0; int roleCount = 0; int parentGroup; cout<<"enter a number of parentGroup"<<

Holy shit.
 
I'm still wiping the blood from my eyes
that code is fugly
 
@Rapptz Nesting, deep.
 
@Rapptz what the actual fuck
 
4:30 PM
people write terrible code
like fuck they do
 
@Rapptz I guess that guy watched inception and thought "we must nest deeper"
 
@Telkitty猫咪咪 See, I'm a nice Lion, except when I'm not.
 
@Rapptz Oh gawd it jumps into the loop.
 
Ok I officially want extension methods in C++.
Give them to me.
Nao.
 
So I have 2 interviews
 
4:35 PM
So you get to fuck up 2 times :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz if you go with context.createThing instead of Thing(Context& context) ...doesn't that make it impossible to have Things as members? unless you Thing a default constructor and allow empty things...? :/
 
@melak47 no and no
do you know what a constructor initializer list is?
 
who doesn't?
IDIOTS
 
4:38 PM
what. what.
 
idiots don't know what constructor initializer lists are.
 
that escalated quickly, really.
 
however, that's a subset of the total set of individuals not knowing what they are.
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh, makes sense. :)
 
Einstein didn't know either.
 
4:40 PM
So I stumbled upon an old SO question about why the C++ "STL" is templated and an answer there linked to an interview with Stepanov. I thought this was interesting:
Question:
Do you think template-based programming and Generic Programming will be adopted by the majority of C++ programmers, or will they be confined to STL, somewhat like manipulators, which were never used outside the iostream library?

Answer:
I do not know. It will take a long time before the ideas behind STL enter the mainstream. We will know in about 10-15 years if anything comes out of all this.
 
VS builds really slow when it cannot find my includes...
 
well it prolly searches in a lot of places
did you add your "include" folder to include folders?
 
No.
Also, a hierarchy design question.
I currently have it with Engine and Generation in the root of the source files.
Which, thus far, means I have to go up a level for most things, which seems bad to me. Not sire.
 
@Pawnguy7 how does your stuff build if it doesn't find your includes :p
 
user784668
@R.MartinhoFernandes cool
 
4:49 PM
@melak47 it doesn't, it just took VS about two minutes to tell me, and it is like a 15 file project.
 
user784668
@Pawnguy7 you should upgrade to ultimate if you want to manage projects that big
 
15 files is a big project?
 
@Fanael 15 files, not 15 projects :p
 
user784668
@Rapptz sarcasm is a big project
 
I don't think so. I don't recall saying it was.
 
4:51 PM
you bunch of cocks
:P
 
@Fanael That's sarcasm? Oh boy.
 
@TonyTheLion BBC
 
user784668
What does BBC stand for, again?
 
@Fanael Big Black Cock
 
4:53 PM
is adding src to the include dirs considered bad? :D
 
^ BBC
 
@Tuntuni almost a BBQ
 
@melak47 :D
 
cripes, nerves :S
 
It compiles! Ship it!
 
5:00 PM
lol... at what SO has done to me. It let me spot this error in our source code instantly:
(int)Math.Ceiling(128 / 6);
 
Just saw the oddest thing...
Like, you know the joke about a geologist and a programmer on a plane?
 
@Mysticial integer division returns integer, so no floating points are involved?
 
user784668
@Mysticial the error is that Ceiling is a method, right?
 
Doesn't Ceiling return an int?
 
@melak47 the boost lib you've built with vs2013 preview have vc120 as a part of the filename right?
 
5:11 PM
@Tuntuni yes
 
@melak47 mine have v110 o.O. i hope i didn't mix up my two command prompts .. oh dear, let's try it again
 
@Tuntuni did you specify toolset=mscv-12.0 or however the command expects it?
mind you, I had to change a bunch of little things to make it compile
 
@melak47 i only specified toolset=msvc. i thought it could figure out the version on its own since i was running the vs2013 tools cmd
@melak47 uh oh. things like?
 
@Tuntuni workarounds in boost that only apply vor MSVC_VER < 1700
I changed a bunch of configs, scripts and bleh to recognize the version number and registry paths and stuff so they find VS 2013 include paths
 
aw man
 
5:16 PM
:D
 
@StackedCrooked The comments clearly imply that it should be rounded up.
So...
And also, what's the point of Math.Ceiling() after an integer division?
 
Probably a Javascript developer coding C# for the first time.
 
AFAIK Math.Ceiling takes a double and 128/6 yields an int. This int may get implicitly converted to double, but the result will still be same as the result of 128/6.
 
Uh.. Math.Ceiling returns a double.
 
@Nican int / int returns int.
 
5:22 PM
So it's the same as double(128/6).
 
All those FGITW integer division questions on SO... I still can't get... away... from... them...
ahaha
 
FGITW aka fastest gun in the west?
 
yeah
I can't remember how much stupid rep I got early on from just integer division questions.
 
What exactly does one put in a Github readme?
 
@Tuntuni I can send you files I modified if you like?
 
5:32 PM
@Pawnguy7 ASCII porn?
 
s/?/!/
 
Haha. Anyway, I cannot really think of what to put besides the SFML dependancy, and the aforementioned project description.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Too laggy?
Or did you have a dc?
 
@FredOverflow Regarding "You should generally prefer std::vector<Foo> over Foo* for dynamic arrays." - Actually, most of the times std::deque<Foo>is a better choice than std::vector<Foo>, but this is another discussion. — Mihai Todor 18 mins ago
 
Disconnected.
 
5:35 PM
^ anyone agree with him?
 
@FredOverflow No
 
I think herb sutter does
 
user784668
A stuttering herb?
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@Tuntuni this is all the files I changed: dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/21007284/…
 
one of them gurus prefers deque over vector whereas bjarne and meyers usually prefer vector over deque IIRC
 
5:37 PM
@Borgleader dat jpeg compression
 
I saw this and I thought, wouldn't it be wonderful if there was an aniversary edition of kotor that looked like this? /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
would you mind explaining more on what it does and why do you recommend it as answering the question asked? "Link-only answers" are not quite welcome at Stack Exchange — gnat yesterday
^ "what it does"? wat?
@Borgleader I don't think I have ever used a deque.
 
@melak47 Disregard compression, bask in the beauty
@FredOverflow Me neither, I'm in the vector camp
 
> My name is Arti Fact. Jay Peg Arti Fact!
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes: I'll be afk for a bit
 
5:40 PM
Ok.
 
@Xeo I'll watch jfk for a bit.
 
walking dead on sale!
 
@gnat: You.. don't know what a book does? — Lightness Races in Orbit 5 mins ago
LOL
 
lol
 
welp added a programmer's account just to upvote that comment
 
5:53 PM
That's twice recently when I wished I could write typedefd_func_type myfunction(param1, param2) {blah;} where typedefd_func_type is a function typedef.
 
@Borgleader deque is the superior default, really.
 
How and why?
 
@DeadMG I wouldn't say so.
 
@DeadMG in GCC maybe, MSVC no
 
@Borgleader It has more flexibility and more efficient operation.
the only downside is MSVC's shitty implementation.
 
5:56 PM
@JerryCoffin ran a basic test on deque v. vector, and found that vector usually performed better than deque in most cases.
 
baw.
 
he posted it as an SO question - the first one I upvoted from him, I think.
 
@FredOverflow debatable
 
@DeadMG deque doesn't guarantee contiguous memory for it's elements right?
 
@Mysticial Right.
 
5:57 PM
@Mysticial it virtually guarantees they aren't contiguous
 
@Tuntuni you alive? or did boost get to you
 
pretty much the only use case for vector over deque is that vector has contiguous storage for C-style array interoperation.
deque is superior in every other respect.
 
@DeadMG lol, which is what I do a lot.
 
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Q: wondering about Game Programming?

user2592506Well I've been wondering this for a while. Okay lets say I'm creating a game ( Java or C++ ) in this game i have a character that can do a sword swing animation, but the character can equip different swords. Do I have to make an animation for each individual sword or is there another way. I hope ...

 
(except the shitty MSVC implementation)
 
5:57 PM
look at them downvotes
 
@Borgleader wow...
 
@DeadMG deque's iterators are larger and slower
@DeadMG inserting in the middle/end is slower too
 
@Mysticial game programming question, better tag it php
 
@Borgleader Aw man. Poor guy.
 
phhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
that was a thing
 
5:59 PM
His fault but the question isn't bad at least.
 
and a reopen cote
 

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