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11:00 AM
@thecoshman and TBH, I am not even sure which job was that for :D
lolwat
> Order Pizza And Bread Online
 
@BartekBanachewicz what with recruiters, he probably doesn't know either
 
> save your time - you don’t have to stay in a queue, just coming, taking your pizza and going to cash desk
@thecoshman hehehe. I vaguely remember it had something to do with graphics anyway, it was the onyl reason I took the call
I decline anything that says C/C++ or doesn't have graphics in it.
 
you know, I think I would really like it if code editors would wait a while before telling variables aren't use. "This one is not used, BECAUSE I JUST ADDED IT! YOU JUST SAW ME TYPE IT!" Like, at least wait until I've stopped typing for a few seconds.
 
:D
he's just trying to help!
 
so foldl is really just a function to accumulate a list of things?
 
11:06 AM
@BartekBanachewicz CreatePen(...); CreateSolidBrush(...); SelectObject(...); SelectObject(...); Rectangle(...); SelectObject(...); SelectObject(...); DestroyObject(...); DestroyObject(...);
 
@chris very funny
 
Yay, a rectangle!
Doesn't include getting/creating and releasing/destroying the DC either, or double buffering.
 
> a Graphics programming background for low level graphics
that was in the mail.
inb4 DirectX job.
and really, TBH, I'd probably get that job at CI Games if I applied for it :F; at least I'd have a chance
> We are looking for a TRUE FIGHTER who will join our Warsaw Studio... (sic)
Oh lol what the fuck
> Your PC is running low on free disk space; disk cleanup required
I just got a mail with this ^
 
@BartekBanachewicz most people will call that spam
either that, or google is really getting personal
 
Does Github have a problem with symlinks?
 
11:19 AM
@thecoshman no, it's from IT :D
 
ugh why is FB chat chucking sounds at me
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes: Now I'm story-wise at the point we were yesterday.
 
@chris in what way?
 
@Xeo ? You playing at work or something?
 
Xeo
11:23 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Still at home because of my cold.
 
> Salary€450.00 - €500.00 per day
wait WHAT
 
Xeo
oO
 
@BartekBanachewicz Good luck with that.
 
considering it's consulting, I wouldn't be that surprised.
 
@BartekBanachewicz erm, yes please?
 
11:24 AM
but it's unimaginable money for me anyway
 
@BartekBanachewicz Maybe you don't get to work more than a few days a month.
 
@thecoshman Well, I use Github for Windows, but I made a symlink to a folder it doesn't monitor and if I commit a change, it still says the binary file in there differs.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and would you work more than a few days a month???
 
@chris if you commit a symlink, you commit the symlink it self
AFAIK git will see the actual symlink file and commit that, rather then seeing it as a folder and committing what is inside that symlinked folder
 
@thecoshman It recognizes the file inside of it. That's what it's complaining about.
 
11:27 AM
@chris oh right
 
@Xeo let's move to UK :D. Oh wait, actually that one in Euro was in Berlin
 
I would generally avoid trying to track symlinked stuff
@BartekBanachewicz nah, Canada :S
 
@thecoshman hey, how's your recruitment going?
 
Xeo
Nobody knows
 
@thecoshman Guess I'll just put the file in my Github directory then.
 
11:30 AM
Wow, I am honestly shocked at how many people eagerly try to defend and justify Linus being an asshole to other kernel developers.
 
@BartekBanachewicz sykpe call for round two tonight :S
 
> Linus
explanation found
 
@chris probably easier
 
Oops, almost deleted the linked to folder by accident lol
The only thing in it so far is the result of building something in half a second anyway, so it wouldn't matter.
 
@thecoshman oooOOooo
@jalf what
fuck, I am jelly; other team has Github for their source :F
 
11:37 AM
@chris you shouldn't commit build output
 
Yes! I have finally setup Eclipse for C++. Now I need to include my SQL and sockets libraries but that's for another day
 
ergh... eclipse
 
@thecoshman I kinda like it
 
@thecoshman Figured the static library might be useful, but I'm pretty new when it comes to using Github appropriately (or at all). Better to fail now than later.
 
vim is cooler though
 
11:39 AM
I'd do with out it
 
Feb 8 at 13:24, by Cat Plus Plus
I'd rather write code by colouring pixels in Paint than use Eclipse
 
@chris generally speaking, you would only commit things that are not generated, such as source files. Anything like static libs are built outside of the repo
 
I have colored pixels in paint and I did some dope pieces
 
@thecoshman An XY problem if there ever was one.
 
Although I prefer Illustrator
 
11:41 AM
@chris huh?
what is?
 
@thecoshman I first asked about symlinks. Figures the whole notion would be wrong.
 
g'morning all btw
 
you were there when I was still in bed
wait, that sounded wrong.
 
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Q: Which function is used to initialize the static class member?

DongleiI have a question about which function is chosen to init a static class member. //Base.h class Base { private: static int count; static int countInit() { return 10; } public: Base() { } }; //and Base.cpp static int countInit() { return 0; } int Base::co...

Interesting, I didn't know that
 
@LuchianGrigore Me neither.
 
11:44 AM
@chris oh right yeah, xy indeed :D
 
Seem reasonable?

double foo(Angle a) {return sin(a.rad()) * cos(a.rad());}
foo(60_deg);
foo(1.34_rad);
 
@BartekBanachewicz didn't you see the posts about Linus going ballistic because some other kernel developer asked for some degree of civil discourse on the mailing list?
I can understand (but disagree with) people saying it's no big deal, or "that's just who he is, deal with it", but the number of people actually arguing that somehow him being an asshole is a good thing just blows my mind.
 
@jalf I am not sure if I want to see them
 
... thanks :/
 
11:50 AM
you're welcome :p
 
The fact that I have higher standards then makes people like you make
snarky comments, thinking that you are cool.

You're a moron.
 
5
Q: Can we have "don't abuse the spam/offensive flag" options on the decline flag dialog

ChrisFFollowing on from my previous question I have a request that specific, predefined "please don't abuse the spam/offensive flag" options be added to the moderator decline flag dialog. This would be useful whether or not that feature is implemented or not and would make the declining of bad spam/of...

 
This was the book that opened my eyes and made me realise how much I hated C++ — Brent.Longborough Jan 4 '09 at 11:54
lol;
 
> Although it sometimes seems like AMD and NVIDIA are competing to see who can make the worst drivers for Linux
teeheee
 
11:55 AM
Chawathe kinda has a point btw
 
ergh... ssh keys not set up on pi for github
 
Next time I will try to click a link on Linus just punch me in the face
it will be much less painful
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There are many recent books that are really bad.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know. It's just that, as a community, we are kinda dicks about it. Guess we have to be.
 
@BartekBanachewicz my pleasure
user image
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12:09 PM
oh I forgot about that :D
 
is it possible to instantiate a derived class to it's base...
like in C#: ex Base base = new Derived();
 
you need a pointer to keep the polymorphic behaviour
if you don't, you'll slice the (Derived-Base) part and you'll end up with regular Base object
std::unique_ptr<Base> base (new Derived());
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't think I agree with anything he says. To start with, I don't agree that all editors/publishers are respectable. His English is a bit poor, but it seems to me he's saying all the errors and mistakes are just typographical and printing errors; that is just laughable. Except for one specific case (because the name is very very similar but it is a completely different book) we don't point fingers at any of those bad books, so I think that's fine.
 
@BartekBanachewicz finally u answered one of my question without being sarcastic.. :) Thank you.
 
Taking Sturgeon's Law as an insult is a bit ridiculous IIAM. Stop whining and strive to be in the 10%.
 
12:14 PM
@Navin am I sarcastic usually? :F
 
@BartekBanachewicz well yes... you normally insult and then only answer will ill send u a link..
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17545091/need-of-new-c-headers?noredirect=1#comment25519307_17545091
the link is removed but there you were joking about his question.. it was funny but you know for beginners in C++ it's kind of insulting.. :) i mean not for me for him
 
@BartekBanachewicz what nooo wayyy
 
> (...) they found that the best way to improve efficiency in an enterprise is to promote people randomly, or to shortlist the best and the worst performer in a given group, from which the person to be promoted is then selected randomly.
 
@Navin well I am not 10k yet so I can't even read how I insulted him; However, if you are referring to comments like "this questions shows you don't know what you are doing", I don't consider them insulting
@Aboutblank that's the defence against stupid ideas
 
12:32 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes what's that from?
 
JBL
-6
Q: Why it is important to first convert code in assembly?

pranitkothariWhile learning reverse engineering, I got to know assembly is best way to see and attack closed source software. Why languages like C/C++ needs to convert code to assembly, why it doesn't directly convert to machine language. Secondly why it is necessary to map all the code sections (like .stac...

Wat ?
 
@BartekBanachewicz anyways thanks for the method..
 
TIL Google doesn't cache SO deleted Q's
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes interesting
 
12:36 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Funny. :)
 
They gained an Ig Nobel Prize.
 
i found it
 
found what
 
12:38 PM
Ig?
 
anti-nobel
> @thecoshman created repository thecoshman.github.com 2 hours ago
 
I'm almost done with the primer o.O I wonder what to read next
 
@Aboutblank A book on Erlang. Or about biology. Or maybe some fiction?
 
My group is helping enhance the #OpenCL C++ API. If you have suggestions for improvements let us know via the forum! http://www.khronos.org/message_boards/showthread.php/9052-Suggestions-for-improving-the-OpenCL-C-API
WHERE IS C++ OPENGL FFFFSSSS
 
@BartekBanachewicz in your github :D
 
JBL
12:46 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Write it.
 
@melak47 oh right.
I am curious on what CL guys did, perhaps they have some ideas worth stealing
> cl::Image2D::Image2D(Context& context,
 
lolwut
 
@BartekBanachewicz u liek, or u haet
 
apparently, there is a webpage with the url python in my corp intranet.
 
pretty cumbersome to pass it every time :v
also it doesn't use exceptions
 
12:48 PM
@BartekBanachewicz how would get the context to stuff?
retrieve the immediate context?
and always use that?
 
typedef VECTOR_CLASS<std::pair<const void*, ::size_t> > Binaries
@melak47 dunno :/
 
how about a glFactory :3
 
(CL_CALLBACK * pfn_notify)
eh...
 
std::function fools.
 
It's C++03, nuff said.
 
12:50 PM
@BartekBanachewicz eh, I don't really see why it'd be a problem (although an alternative approach would be context.createImage2D(...)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Environment monad!
 
but of course, then you're pretty much approaching the D3D API, and I know you hate that :p
 
@jalf I think factory would be really nicer here
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know now that one
 
@jalf :D
 
@jalf if I was going to pick up another language I'd probably go back to something I haven't done in a long time. like python or lisp
 
12:51 PM
@BartekBanachewicz how's a factory nicer?
 
@jalf There's a lot of other things in D3D that I dislike more
 
@Aboutblank Well, you might learn something. :)
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz Boost.
 
@Aboutblank If what you're hinting at is "I want to read an endless stream of C++ books", then my best advice is "don't. Write some code instead."
 
@BartekBanachewicz o_0 yes?
 
12:53 PM
@BartekBanachewicz what's the difference between Factory factory(context); factory.fabricateStuff(); and context.createStuff() ?
 
May 21 '12 at 15:13, by R. Martinho Fernandes
        DocumentBuilderFactory dbfac = DocumentBuilderFactory.newInstance();
        DocumentBuilder docBuilder = dbfac.newDocumentBuilder();
        Document doc = docBuilder.newDocument();
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ugh
 
Hi.
 
@melak47 um, not much? The context is the factory in the 2nd approach
 
12:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz so why do you like the factory approach D:
 
both are factory approaches
 
6 mins ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@jalf I think factory would be really nicer here
^why
 
factory would be nicer than context parameter, duh.
 
oh.
well, you can have both :3
 
prolly.
Still, it's C++03
 
1:01 PM
just make the factory provide the context parameter and forward the rest, or someinthg
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes DocumentBuilderFactory dafac
 
inb4 Java
 
Can you only pass a POD as parameters to varargs functions?
 
Not for variadic templates
 
@LuchianGrigore For C-style variadics, yes.
of course, the compiler is too stupid to assert that it is, in fact, POD, and will just give you UB back if it isn't.
 
1:08 PM
@DeadMG gcc will yell at you if you pass a non-POD, but yeah, only as a warning
 
@jalf Yeah, I was more hoping that an error would be enshrined in the Standard.
 
@DeadMG the ps3 compiler is smart enough apparently :)
 
1:24 PM
@DeadMG hey, do you have any idea what happens if I create my D3D device on an adapter without outputs? does the card automagically send the stuff to the card that has the output stuff is being presented to?
 
@melak47 Isn't that the same as if you use an adaptor which is connected to screen A, but it renders to a window on screen B?
that works just fine
(obviously, anything else would be silly)
 
@jalf works mostly fine, and yeah it should be the same, but you never know :p
 
Device(std::initializer_list<FeatureLevel> feature_levels = { FeatureLevel::DX11_0 }) syntax error: '{', syntax error: missing ';' before '{', error: '{' : missing function header (old-style formal list?)
can I not default initialize an initializer list with an initializer list? :/
 
user784668
1:37 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes: can I steal the UTF converters from ogonek?
 
hehe
I just printed front page of GL spec on A3 and pinned above my desk
 
@TonyTheLion that font is awful
 
Ell
God its hot
@bartek is that the cheat sheet?
I was thinking of printing some of those
 
@Ell it's the pipeline diagram
 
Ell
Like complexity for algorithms n shiz
 
1:43 PM
in OpenGL Done Right, 1 min ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
@thecoshman check this out :)
@Ell that's actually probably the least useful one :F
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit idk why you havent got .. populist badge :(
 
Ell
 
ah those
I have ES3 ones printed too
anyway, @Ell, you didn't reply to me about GLDR :S. You still interested in that?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit just let me know which answer should i accept (just for required time to get you badge) :)
 
1:54 PM
 
lol
We have our logo now
 
?
 
@melak47 when doesn't it?
 
@kbok bah, now I remember, weren't you supposed to talk to some friend about a logo? I've proposed the Lundi bird long ago :F
 
@BartekBanachewicz Turns out he's moving to the US for a new job so he probably won't have much time for this :p
 
1:58 PM
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I made good progress with GLDR lately, so time to move Lundi forward
 

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