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user142019
4:01 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That website is a joke, FYI.
 
@LucDanton what's CPS?
 
user142019
Crappy Piece of Shit
 
Continuation passing style?
Who needs a stack? Just pass a function to where to go next.
 
ah, crappy piece of shit
 
Xeo
Time to get home.
 
user142019
4:03 PM
We'll miss you.
 
Lua ERROR : [string "x = plop_xyz(2, 6, 'hello')"]:1: attempt to call global 'plop_xyz' (a nil value)
[Testing completed. All tests passed (16 assertions in 8 test cases)]
So much for coverage
 
Hee hee, one for the Robot: fuckyourcode.com/64
 
8 mins ago, by Luc Danton
I like 59 and 64.
 
user142019
I like 12.
 
I like 50.
I mean the number.
 
4:11 PM
54 seemd to have been done for @Zoidberg.
 
lol
 
user142019
I have no pets.
 
user142019
And I have nothing to project pets on.
 
user142019
And I have no projector. EUREKA.
 
Nice try at missing the point. But you won't fool me.
 
4:13 PM
us. you won't fool us
how's the last project going @Zoidberg? I've seen server in Erlang
 
user142019
I have no idea what my last project was.
 
text based game?
 
user142019
Nope.
 
Why don't you lower your expectations so that you can actually finish something
 
4:14 PM
@Zoidberg Do you have a programming job?
 
he is just low. (trolling in order to see something complete)
 
Fuck your patterns
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm sure he's a wonderful limbo dancer.
 
Try with something simple, like multiplying two integers together, then you can implement negative numbers, etc.
 
I just saw that one. <3
 
4:15 PM
lol
I taught my GF how to code tic-tac-toe over the weekend
 
How did she do?
 
5 bucks says terribly.
 
I mean, I've explained the algorithm on a sheet of paper, and she got it nicely
 
What'd you teach her in?
 
Lua, obviously
 
4:16 PM
I taught my GF to read binary a few days ago but I'm not sure she understood :p
 
Lol
 
user142019
Machine code.
 
She understood pretty much everything.
She already wrote few games in Lua, but just doesn't dig it
~artists~
 
nvm
My GF is an english major
 
damn
LEWG ripped my Unicode paper apart
 
4:19 PM
ouch.
 
Who is this lewg guy you keep talking about
 
Library Evolution Working Group
 
user142019
@DeadMG as in… literally?
 
user image
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omg^
 
C&H rocks
 
4:22 PM
@Zoidberg No.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG How specifically?
 
I can't wait for shorts
 
user142019
@DeadMG lol good :P
 
Xeo
I want you to describe it in a way that we can taste your tears.
:3
 
user142019
Because that would be an intimidating gesture. :v
 
4:22 PM
C++17 needs std::lua
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Write a proposal.
 
@Xeo Lol, you're so mean. x3
 
@Xeo They overwhelmingly rejected having a templated encoding string class. They wanted one single encoded string class. They also wanted the string and algorithms to be separated.
 
@Xeo I want to get into Boost first :3
 
user142019
LLVM needs to be standard LOL.
 
user142019
4:23 PM
STANDARDIZE EVERYTHING.
 
std::c::/*everything  related to c*/
^ I would like that. :D
 
user142019
inb4 the standard is 50k pages long.
 
@DeadMG Damn. =[
So for them, it's UTF8 only, all the time?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG So, encoding is determined at runtime?
 
@BartekBanachewicz If you're going to do it, do it right, and automate it: extern "lua" lua_func();
 
Xeo
4:24 PM
"extrern" - "extrem"?
 
@ThePhD More likely, implementation-defined constant.
 
@Xeo I guess so. Technically, it makes sense: you don't always know what data incoming is going to be like
 
@JerryCoffin ooooh. So yeah, I need Boost.Lua first. But that could be nice
 
So templating the string is sort of silly.
 
@Xeo What? What are you asking about? :-)
 
4:25 PM
It does help when working internally with your program, however.
 
So, Luajit's lua_loadstring ignores the first line if it starts with #, like lua_loadfile. Stock Lua doesn't, as described in the API. It's not exactly a problem but AFAICT that's not documented.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Really? I'd really like compile-time checked encoding.
 
Anyways, imagining C++ with builtin Lua...
 
@JerryCoffin How would you implement that? Plug into the compiler implementation?
 
man, we could really have proper GUI libraries then
and stuff.
various stuff.
 
user142019
4:25 PM
Please don't standardize GUI libraries. :(
 
There used to be extern "pascal" right?
 
@Zoidberg proper != standard
 
user142019
Oh proper. :v
 
@kbok I wouldn't implement that -- but for somebody who did: yes, probably.
 
@Xeo I would like it too, but I think they are going for lowest-common-denominator.
 
4:26 PM
@kbok TTBOMK, no.
 
Technically, you can always take something that's run time and wrap it up in templates and compile-time stuff.
 
@kbok extern "whatever" is allowed in the sense that it's a customization point for implementations to plug whatever they want here. Except for extern "C" with its one meaning.
 
Obviously, you're losing some speed and other things you can select at compile-time if you just template out what are essentially applied at run-time, but... Shrug.
 
Oh yeah and extern "C++".
 
Xeo
For me, it's more of a matter of not accidentally mixing different encodings and whatnot.
 
4:28 PM
@LucDanton extern "C" has some prescribed meaning, but still quite a bit of room for customization.
 
Though, if LEWG said something like that to DeadMG, I don't see why they don't just make it UTF32 maximally, all the time.
 
> The string-literal indicates the required language linkage. This International Standard specifies the semantics for the string-literals "C" and "C++". Use of a string-literal other than "C" or "C++" is conditionally-supported, with implementation-defined semantics.
@JerryCoffin Not sure about that.
Inasmuch as the Standard doesn't mandate anything ABI-wise? But that's not specific to extern.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Wait a sec, which algorithms specifically?
 
@LucDanton I am. It doesn't, for example, specify the calling convention that extern "C" will impose.
 
@Xeo All the Unicode ones, like normalize, collate, etc.
 
4:30 PM
47 secs ago, by Luc Danton
Inasmuch as the Standard doesn't mandate anything ABI-wise? But that's not specific to extern.
 
Xeo
Huh... how does that work?
 
@LucDanton Right -- but that's the majority of what extern "C" really does/need to od.
 
Xeo
I think I'm missing something here.
Say, @Jerry, could it be that you had a bit too much wine today? You're making so many typos, it's unnormal.
 
@Xeo No wine today -- but also (nearly) no sleep.
 
Hi people
I have the my question 's closed
that now I change...
that I do for reopen the question
I wrong?
 
4:45 PM
@MirkoCianfarani it still looks like it has lots of grammatical mistakes.
 
@Pubby I dont think that's why it was closed
 
I think for the error is grammatic...
 
@Borgleader Why was it then?
 
@Pubby To tell you that id have to see the original, and i cant because i dont have enough rep to see the revision history
 
Xeo
huh? revision history doesn't need rep now, does it?
 
4:49 PM
@Borgleader Well, the edit didn't change much.
 
@Xeo it doesnt? Well i dont know how to access it so... either way
 
> They asked me how well I understand theoretical physics. I said I have a theoretical degree in physics.
I love Fallout <3
 
=[[[[
I reached 290 rep.
I'm am hard-rep-cappe.
;~;
 
@Pubby Well, like the the close comment/reason says. It's hard to know what he's asking for. At first he says he wants to add something to a dict, then he goes on a tangent about reading some textarea, and at the end it seems more like he doesn't know how to even create the dictionary.
Oh and why the hell are we even discussing javascript questions? I thought this was LoungeC++ ...
 
@Borgleader We were talking about SQL last night. :)
 
4:59 PM
You have immunity :) Besides it wasnt an SO question as I recall
 
A bunch of C++ nubs in SQL trying to get a simple query on the data explorer to work. :)
 
I havent done proper SQL in a year
 
@ThePhD what the
 
user142019
Oh, cool. Doxygen uses clang these days.
 
@Zoidberg Woot
I use SQL (PL/SQL too) more often than I'd like to admit
 
user142019
5:11 PM
PL/pgSQL is awesome.
 
what is PL?
 
Procedural Language/Structured Query Language (PL/SQL) is Oracle Corporation's procedural extension language for SQL and the Oracle relational database. PL/SQL's general syntax resembles that of Ada or Pascal. PL/SQL is one of three key programming languages embedded in the Oracle Database, along with SQL itself and Java. PL/SQL is available in Oracle Database (since version 7), TimesTen in-memory database (since version 11.2.1), and IBM DB2 (since version 9.7). PL/SQL supports variables, conditions, loops and exceptions. Arrays are also supported, though in a somewhat unusual way, invo...
 
ty sir
 
@eMPee584 thanks for a helpful edit. I can't upvote it, but I would :) — sehe 4 secs ago
@Zoidberg I'd be interested if it is realy decent. Spoiler: PL/SQL is not awesome
 
user142019
Define "decent". :v
 
user142019
5:19 PM
What are the problems with PL/SQL?
 
user142019
PL/pgSQL is quite similar to PL/SQL but it supports things like arrays and foreach loops.
 
user142019
There's also PL/Perl and PL/Python. :v
 
@BartekBanachewicz 290 rep for the day =[
 
sbi
Good evening, folks.
 
user142019
5:25 PM
Good evening, folk.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel You guys should totally put this into the room's FAQ.
 
Xeo
@sbi Welcome back
 
@sbi Hello :D
 
sbi
@Xeo You say this as if I've been away. :)
 
Xeo
I mean from Bristol. Or are you perchance at the WG21 meeting? :P
 
sbi
5:29 PM
@Xeo ope. What the hell should I do there?
I mean, you seem to have read my tweets, so you know what the standardization process amounts to in Stroustrup's opinion, right?
 
Xeo
hehe
Did you happen to catch any news about videos being put up?
 
@sbi Yeah, we should.
 
sbi
"Standardization: long periods of mind-numbing boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror." Stroustrup #accu2013 http://twitpic.com/citmdi
@EtiennedeMartel That's the wrong grammatical form. This needs to read "Someone should."
 
Hmm. I need to make an announcement.
 
Hi Ape.
 
5:33 PM
@EtiennedeMartel You're getting together with the robot, who has turned into a gay robot pony just for you? <3<3<3
 
Xeo
Implying robots have genders.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You should take a look at Unknown Worlds, the creator of Natural Selection II. They're probably about as crazy as you are - if not more crazy - about LUA.
 
sbi
@ThePhD They're tens of thousands of miles away from each other. If there's to be any love between them, that would have to be virtual love. In that case, Etienne would be a robot, too.
 
Alright people. sbi suggested we add my "right to ask" thing to the FAQ, and it led me to think that some parts of said FAQ are somewhat obsolete. So, I suggest a (partial) rewrite. What do you think we should add or remove?
10
 
(Add a second one for stars for removal instead of addition)
 
5:36 PM
@EtiennedeMartel No opinion.
 
Or it could just be a threshold of stars.
 
@ThePhD I'm trying to trigger a discussion here.
 
if ( stars >= 7 ) addShit();
Oooh.
Well, uh. In that case. Yeah, let's do it!
Woo changing up the status quo yeah change and shit liberal bra-burning wooo!
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel I actually liked the preceding paragraph more. Anyway, now there's two messages pinned about the same subject.
 
@sbi Well, one is the message itself, the other is the "call to action" for changing the FAQ.
 
5:38 PM
We could even make @TonyTheLion the room mascot. "Earn your Stripes<Lounge> (picture of badass Tony)"
 
sbi
Anyway, I have here a laptop from someone that has WinXP Home installed, with an account on the start screen that the account owner has forgotten the password of. Loss of that account is not an issue. What am I to do to get into that machine?
 
You can get a livecd and reset the password from it
 
Shit, so much work to do.
 
sbi
@kbok I don't have an XP Home DVD. I do have a WinXP Pro DVD, though. Would that work?
 
That's a pretty hardcore way to answer a Lego question. http://bricks.stackexchange.com/a/1953/55 http://phillipecantin.blogspot.ca/2013/02/legos-magic-number-is-37112.html
 
5:42 PM
No, you need a specialized windows rescue linux livecd distribution
 
@Griwes woah
 
e.g. backtrack
 
@ThePhD ah, Decoda. I've used it for a while. It I have a mixed feeling
 
Then, you can find plenty of information about resetting windows passwords from the shell.
 
Ahahahah, some people have too much time to waste.
 
5:44 PM
Don't burn a CD though, USB keys are usually fine
 
@DomagojPandža More like some people have robots to do their bidding.
 
Xeo
@sbi ntofflinepasswd
as a bootable USB
you can just reset the password from there
 
sbi
@Xeo This ntofflinepasswd tool must be a figment of your imagination. I have heard you speak about it before, I think, but the only hits google finds for "ntofflinepasswd" are in this chat room. I didn't bother to check, but I bet it's all in your messages.
 
I've used it, although I don't remember the exact name either
 
sbi
5:55 PM
Ha! That installation has an empty admin password! I am now logged into through that XP disk's repair console.
 
(I wrote WORKS!!! on the cd I burned it to)
 
Is there an easy way (like quads) to build a sphere in OpenGL?
 
Xeo
@sbi Oh right, in XP you could still ctrl-alt-del in the login menu
 
sbi
@Xeo No, not if you have the shiny new start screen that you don't have to ctrl-alt-del through. I think so, anyway.
Now if I only knew how to create accounts from the repair console...
 
net adduser
I think
 
Xeo
5:57 PM
"shiny new start screen"?
 
But that user wont be able to access your old stuff I think.
 
sorry, net useradd
 
Xeo
IIRC, you could just hit ctrl-alt-del and get a Win98-style login dialog
 
you will only lose access to encrypted stuff
like ntfs encrypted files and saved browser passwords
 

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