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6:01 PM
I am currently mid-way through this (long) scholarly thriller. A fascinating read, although I can't quite put why.
 
user142019
Bacon is extremely good.
 
50 strips of bacon a day.
Seems pretty sweet.
 
what the fuck is wrong with you people
the bacon meme was dead about a thousand years ago
 
@KonradRudolph Please no.
 
6:08 PM
@Rapptz <3
 
:( that video depresses me
 
Why?
 
@DeadMG Actually I come more from the health site: it annoys the hell out of me that people claim that English Breakfast is oh so unhealthy, then stuff their face with doughnuts.
I don’t even like bacon that much …
 
@ThePhD High implication of incorrect information regarding what a calorie count really is for.
Hint: 2000 calories a day is a meaningless metric that is garbage.
It's there as a standardised method for food labels if anything
 
@Rapptz Oh, so you mean dumbies eating 50 bacon strips a day and believing it to be legit?
 
6:09 PM
@Rapptz It really isn’t. It’s not perfect but as guidelines go it’s a-ok
 
Hm.
I
 
@KonradRudolph No, it's completely asinine and people always seem to believe 2000 calorie is a magic number for being healthy. I can't tell you the amount of people who have come up to me at the hospital saying that a woman should eat 1600 and a male should eat 2000
 
should make it so MeshDescription does not carry IndexBuffer or VertexBuffer
 
It makes me mad
 
but rather carries a std::vector of a vertex type or index type.
@Rapptz Dragon-kick them!
 
6:11 PM
@Rapptz Funny I thought it was 2,500 for male and 2,000 for male... but I get your point.
what would you recommend instead?
 
@Rapptz Gimme a better rule. 5-a-day? Pur-lease!
 
Are those cal or kcal? I'm so confused right now.
 
Calories suck as an intake measurements.
 
@LucDanton Always kcal
 
1 food calorie = 1kcal
 
6:11 PM
@LucDanton ( Calories are kcal )
If they were otherwise we'd be wispy kites in the wind.
Or... just dead.
 
@DeadMG There is no ideal count for calories because it depends on temperature (if you're cold you burn more calories), metabolism, and exercise among other things.
 
I meant in general
if counting calories is broken, then what to do instead?
 
Look at the food you're eating and ask yourself "How soon will this kill me?"
I mean, unless you have some really weird food allergies it's not rocket science.
 
@ThePhD And that’s where above-mentioned doughnut-munching people come in and will tell you how baaad bacon is. It may not be rocket science but it’s hard even for experts.
 
@DeadMG eat when hungry
 
6:14 PM
@KonradRudolph Eating 50 strips of bacon is bad. But eating 12 doughnuts is worse.
 
Ah man, googling comes up with example of misusing 'calorie' like that. That's fucked up!
 
Calories are the only unit I know that is case sensitive lol
Oh there are some for geology now that I think about it
 
@Pubby Frankly, my body does not give me a remotely accurate perception of when that is.
 
So basically what is the question??
 
@Rapptz For the longest time people made a (stupid, but then Cal is also stupid) distinction between KB vs. kB
 
6:15 PM
@ThePhD Which I essentially do, if you recall
 
@DeadMG Then it's time to get DAT SPECIALIST.
 
@KonradRudolph I thought it was KB and Kb?
 
If it's tasty it's fine to eat
 
@ThePhD I already did
 
And if that specialist says "Just make sure you get x calories", FIRE them.
 
6:15 PM
 
If they're female, make sure to fire them.
With your dick.
 
@Rapptz Neither is correct but the reasoning I know is that, since the SI unit prefix “kilo” is always lowercase, 1 kB = 1000 bytes, while 1 KB = 1024 bytes
 
Stop flagging you flagging idiot
 
@KonradRudolph Ah but Mb vs MB has a distinction so I figured KB and Kb did as well. kilobytes vs kilobits
 
Oh, I got flagged? :c
 
6:17 PM
@KonradRudolph And 1.44 MB is neither and both at the same time.
 
@Rapptz Yes, I realised that shortly after submitting my previous comment
 
If you don't like words here then get out
 
I can see why, that comment was pretty dick-ish.
 
bytes/bits and SI prefixes are fucked up anyway.
 
.... That pun was unintended, I swear. :c
 
6:18 PM
It's crappy unfunny joke but no flagging
 
Hm.
Maybe I can soak up all the chat flags and get banned.
FUCK you FUCK me FUCK GOD fuck TREES fuck the SUN I DON'T NEED HEAT, OR VITAMIN D.
 
@DeadMG I don't know the answer besides possibly using an inflated calorie count mostly because the results vary per person very greatly at times and it's hard to do a "one size fits best" kind of thing.
Nutritionists in general usually argue about what's best for you anyway since one study would say X is good for you but the other study would say X is bad for you, causing mass confusion to the people who interpret it when it's just the scientific method doing its work.
 
@Rapptz They recently discovered that while red meat is good for you, it also produces a waste product that your body can't handle very gracefully, and so it may counteract all the good it does.
And thus, they go back to recommending whiter meats, like Chicken Breast.
 
@ThePhD why are you trying to get banned? :D
 
It'll force me to go on SO and be useful and answer questions until I get enough rep to repeal my GREAT SINS of DROPPIN' DA F BOMB, yo.
 
6:22 PM
@Rapptz You mean dieticians? Nutritionists are unaccredited, and often quacks.
 
@ThePhD be useful on SO? please, no, anything but that!
 
@KonradRudolph Good catch. I use the terms interchangeably because I don't know any nutritionists and it sounds better than dieticians when I say it out-loud.
 
Lol.
s/@ThePhD/@KonradRudolph
@melak47 It's too late! I already began to answer questions!!
 
@ThePhD Shit. I keep doing that.
 
hmnm … is there some kind of tl;dr for #accu2013?
 
6:33 PM
31 mins ago, by Luc Danton
I am currently mid-way through this (long) scholarly thriller. A fascinating read, although I can't quite put why.
 
<- operator, SFINAE was all I got from it
 
I'm spamming because it was an awesome read, now that I'm done with it.
@Rapptz SFINAE what?
 
@LucDanton SFINAE all the things?
 
6:37 PM
@KonradRudolph accu.org/index.php/news/1797 this maybe?
What the hell
Isn't that obvious?
 
I saw he word business and I figured yeah, he would be surprised.
 
Enough to write a whole article about it to boot.
 
Ell
Kirby nightmare in dreamland was good
 
@ScottW :v:
 
I want a bagpipe
 
6:50 PM
@Ell you never asked what you wanted really
 
hi , is there way to see progress of individual n\d\d\d\d proposal? I mean I wanna check if my precious static if is voted in c++14 or 17
 
break break break
 
user142019
goto goto goto
 
@NoSenseEtAl I doubt it considering Bjarne made an entire paper against it.
 
break.. bagpipe.. goto.. What is it about this blog? Why is it, whenever I take a short break for shower/coffee/whatever and then return, it seems like a mass of substance-abuse has broken out?
 
6:58 PM
@Rapptz damn you Bjarne Farnsworth.... you were cool when you were younger ( <120 y)... I hope Herb makes it VC++ extension :P my bitching aside tnx for the link
 
generally speaking, for software engineers/IT, are tattoos acceptable in a workplace?
 
Wow
He's against static_if ?
What the hell, Bjarne? =[
Do they have anything better on the table?
 
Concepts
 
@Crowz Tattoos are almost never acceptable.
Put them in places where nobody but your significant other can see them.
 
I think that's their main motivation.
Something about it impeding the progress on Concepts
 
7:01 PM
What are Concepts?
 
Constraints on templates
 
so, where T : TVertex syntax for Templates (like C#, but not exactly?)
 
Something like
template<input_iterator T> would mean T can only be an input_iterator type.
 
...
That's a really stupid mechanism.
 
No it isn't
 
7:05 PM
concepts are Bjarnes pet project... pet is by now so old it can drink alcohol in US :P
 
Concepts were proposed in 2005.
 
OH
 
@ThePhD He's mainly against the way it is being proposed. The proposal is intrusive and has a very high burden on tool makers
 
The syntax is requires
 
This will certainly impede acceptance of c++14+
 
7:07 PM
Not just slapping the word input_iterators in front of a template type.
Whew.
I was gonna be very sad for a moment.
 
@ThePhD But you can do that.
 
@Rapptz im overstating it... but concepts are like regex in g++ :P
 
...
That's just sully.
 
How is that silly?
Think of it as the equivalent of doing template<size_t N>
 
So wait
where does the requirement go?
Before or after?
Is it basically a constrain-ified typedef?
 
7:09 PM
@ThePhD read Stepanov's book, they have sample chapter that uses requires also there is clang branch afaik
 
I don't get the confusion :/
 
@Zoidberg He's gonna prove he was there
 
FUCK
LEADING UNDERSCORES? DD:
 
The naming for that branch is kinda fucked up and inconsistent.
I assume if it gets put into C++14+ it'll be fixed :S
 
@ThePhD but this one is so pretty!
 
7:14 PM
Oh so so true =/
 
^ I hate my relatives, so yes.
That's exactly how I behave.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
@BartekBanachewicz Zing!
 
I pronounce sbi as see bee and sehe and see hee.
So your usernames rhyme in my head.
 
@Telkitty Bloddy mark as NSFW. Next time, it's flag for moderator time again
@BartekBanachewicz too late though:
8 hours ago, by ThePhD
Left-arrow operator.
 
@sehe plastic chick right? Still NSFW thou
 
7:23 PM
@JohanLarsson I dunno. It looked dangerous
 
I alwasy multi-ping when I ping, think my average is 3
 
Too much skin?
 
Telkitty is a repeat offender. I can't be asking politely forever. She's aiming for the very edge of what she can get away with
@Rapptz ...
 
What? I'm serious.
 
@refp Ah, did I remember to plink you :)
 
7:25 PM
@sehe Oh cmon, I'm not gonna actually make that. It's such a waste. :c
 
@ThePhD No. The fear is not that you'll redo something evil. The fear is that it will give you ideas and you will use it in a deadly mix to create a far greater contraption
 
@Rapptz She's buck-naked.
 
@Rapptz Not something you want on your screen at work really, not any picture imo. Looks like Facebook, embarrassing
 
@ThePhD Hence, too much skin.
 
Then what kind fo question is "Too much skin" ?
Of course there's too much skin: she's naked !
 
7:27 PM
I'm laughing at the ridiculousness of it.
 
@ThePhD I think it's a doll, by the way. Just went back to have a second look. @Rapptz is being dense
 
Then again maybe it's because I'll never understand it
Dense? No, I think the entire premise is flawed.
 
Go ahead. Don't ever understand. But try to adapt
 
I didn't look long enough to see if it was a doll...
 
7:28 PM
@ThePhD Me neither, first time
 
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
It's impossible to please anyone
 
It's not really being offended, so much as it's still Friday during the week and people may be at work.
That, and uh. Wives and shit.
 
I don't think anyone was offended, everyone watches prn of course, probably not that many do it at work.
 
@Rapptz You know, not all content is appropriate for all audiences. Cultural differences exist. SO has a code for this, and I think I remember the lounge has it in the newbie hints too.
This picture had zero relevance and was posted without warning. That is just unnecessary. We don't need you to understand or agree. It is just that way.
 
@JohanLarsson Also because there is no sexual implication in the image at all really unless you try hard and make it seem like there is one. Being nude seems to be a very offending thing in America and in Europe now (at least based from this chat).
 
7:30 PM
@Rapptz That's a mighty big contradiction there. I appreciate that you already adapted.
 
@sehe Yeah hence I'll never get it. Someone's nude, someone feels offended despite there being no sexual connotation it.
 
Hm. I wonder if nude automatically equals sexual?
 
No.
 
Still, nude is inapropriate for work & school & (sometimes) home.
@Rapptz I mean in people's minds.
 
@Rapptz It's not offense. It's just not acceptible. Where the hell do you live :)
 
7:31 PM
@ThePhD It's American culture.
 
@Rapptz ^^
 
@sehe Wherever he lives, if fine bitches be walkin' around like dat, I want in!
 
xD
 
@sehe I live in America. Coincidentally no one cares about nude images so long as there's no sexual connotation it.
And you know what, I'm happy about that.
At least it's fair.
 
@Rapptz You live in one very liberal slice of America.
 
7:31 PM
@Rapptz Right. I wish you much fun in the work place
@Rapptz Cough. "Fair" doesn't exist. We're all animals.
 
@ThePhD Or one that understands that human beings are inherently animals.
 
called it
 
If I got a nude picture anywhere but in the total privacy of my home without anyone else around, people would flip shit out.
 
2 mins ago, by Rapptz
@sehe Yeah hence I'll never get it. Someone's nude, someone feels offended despite there being no sexual connotation it.
4 mins ago, by Rapptz
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
 
Well, it also has implications for children and such.
 
7:33 PM
Heaven forbid they see skin.
 
There's also the problem of genitals and such.
I mean, usually that's something you come to learn later on.
Not when you're like, 4.
 
What?
 
Technically, you can be naked and your genitals can be showing. In that case, nude isn't really good for children and such, which is why you can't just have people walk around naked.
(In my mind, anyways).
 
@Rapptz Can you understand my view that I'm not offended at all, the opposite in fact. Just that I would be embarrassed to have it on my screen at work just like I would be embarrassed to have Facebook open.
 
@ThePhD Can you give me one or two points why you believe that?
 
7:35 PM
@Rapptz Heaven forbid they get a skewed idea of beauty, sexuality, indecent exposure. Go explain to your 7 year old daughter that it's okay for the models to be butt naked and in strange positions, but, no, we really don't think it's a good idea for her to do the same when in the park (kids do these things.)
 
@JohanLarsson Offended means to be irritated, annoyed, or angered by something
 
@ThePhD genitals have nothing to do with it (except when actively used -> porn)
 
@sehe I dunno, I didn't figure out girls had another set of genitals until I was like 6-5ish.
 
I hope you realise I'm talking about nudity without sexual connotation.
 
@Rapptz Not the point. Hampered, troubled, hindered.
 
7:36 PM
@sehe What strange positions are human beings doing outside of the sexual spectrum that is so inherently weird?
 
@Rapptz The point is, you can't explain the difference at all times.
@Rapptz See that picture.
 
@sehe I can't?
 
?
Why not. Why are you even debating this if you didn't even take the effort to look at things?
 
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Well, let me find the image again, I closed it.
All I saw was a woman, presumably, who was leaning towards the camera in a crawling position. Probably one of the few that can be seen as ambiguous.
 
7:39 PM
And also, please stop being dense. You know exactly how it works. And yes, you're in a position that allows you to stay in the bubble and idealistically wish all problems associated with nudity away (beliefs, social norms, lust). Please continue to be happy with that. But don't continue to argue what you know is not commonly accepted.
@Rapptz It's not about that. It's about the norms for normal public exposure.
 
what does it take for a pic to have 'sexual connotation'? Penetration? double penetration?
 
@JohanLarsson The balls have to be touching.
 
@JohanLarsson A 'youporn' url watermark, obviously
 
@JohanLarsson Penetration, masturbation, or implicit suggestion.
 
7:41 PM
@Rapptz Hm. Does that mean a sexy come-hither look?
.... What defines a sexy come-hither look, anyhow?
How much nakedness makes it sexy?
Or suggests it?
 
@ThePhD Something like this, nsfw (no nudity)
Usually determined by look and position.
 
You see. That's decidedly NSFW in every environment I know
 
Lol, she's wearing high-heels in bed.
Some girls these days.
 
@sehe It has sexual connotation so.. yeah?
Then consider something else like this. Nsfw? (nudity)
 
ok strange discussion and I don't even know the language. I don't want to be the prude either, gonna watch some prn now to repair the damage.
 
7:44 PM
... huh? So. You magically divined this as a sexual look? This is ridiculously close the logic of a rapist saying "she wanted me to, she had that look".
 
Determined by look and position :|
You implicitly had the same thought as well.
I don't get how when I say it it's bad but when you imply it isn't?
 
@Rapptz What makes it have sexual connotations, though?
The high-heels?
The way her body's curved?
TBH, sometimes I find myself in that position in passing.
When stretching and shit.
 
Sigh. The way the body is curved, the heels, the images in the clipboard, the fact she's on the bed, and the look she's giving
 
What if she was on the floor? :O
The top of a sky-scraper?
Maybe she's into that~
"SCREW ME NEXT TO THE LIGHTNING ROD!!"
 
Oh hither nevermind then
 
7:47 PM
Luuulz.
@Rapptz Someone may very well masturbate to that. I can't say for sure (I wouldn't).
 
People would masturbate to anything, what kind of indicator is that?
 
What kind of indicator is body position and location?
 
@Rapptz Nope. I thought is was fully equivalent to the other picture we were discussing before my eyes hit the magazines that seem to show skin as well
 
People masturbate to animated ponies
What's this thread about anyway
 
@CatPlusPlus =[ That's scary.
@CatPlusPlus We're discussing things like nudity & social norms.
 
7:49 PM
Basically me vs everyone else and I'm dense since I'm alone.
 
And what "crosses the line" from sexual connotations to non-sexual.
 
@CatPlusPlus A thing that Telkitty dropped here.
 
@sehe Oh
That clears things up
 
@Rapptz I'm not saying I disagree. What I'm trying to get to is that the rules can vary so widely that when dealing across cultures, workplaces, and other things, you define the most conservative ruleset possible.
 
@Rapptz not dense but maybe not with monopoly on judging what is sexual either?
 
7:51 PM
@ThePhD +1
 
I didn't claim I had a monopoly on what is considered sexual.
@ThePhD I've already mentioned this but thanks for repeating it anyway.
 
What has 0 sexual connotation to one person will be the sexiest, most flagrant thing in the world to another (e.g., a single male will not find the frog-lady image offensive, like a Mother of 3 children would shoot the person that showed that image to her or her children).
 
@Rapptz yet you think it's very necessary to debate a NSFW (...) picture...
 
23 mins ago, by Rapptz
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
^ I posted this three times now if anything.
 
People who get offended should be offended
 
7:52 PM
@Rapptz Oh my gosh we agree. <3
<333 It's like we were meant for each other~
 
The only NSFW rule we need is "no oneboxing"
 
@Rapptz Perhaps people find your mixed message hard to grok:
22 mins ago, by sehe
@Rapptz That's a mighty big contradiction there. I appreciate that you already adapted.
@CatPlusPlus aaaand NSFW warning
 
Well yes tag it
 
:)
 
@sehe Ugh this sentence makes me more mad than it should.
So I'm just going to ignore it
 
7:53 PM
@CatPlusPlus The importance of tagged_value s~
BOOST_STRONG_TYPEDEF( int, nsfw_tag );
 
@ThePhD I think people who get offended over something like nudity get offended too easy.
Up to you to agree on that notion.
 
Fuck people who get offended
 
@Rapptz I know, the (...) is short for, "at least according to some members of this lounge". I had hoped you could muster a little flexibility in communication. Written communication is hard enough, without assuming bad intentions.
 
@Rapptz I agree, but there are situations where I think that nudity is not appropriate and sometimes worth getting offended over.
 
It's about not getting fired for chatting or something
 
7:55 PM
E.g., if I decided to walk in nude to your house and chat it up. :3c
 
You should not give a fuck about people getting ~offended~
 
@ThePhD Nudists exist fyi.
 
clothes exist
 
Zing!
 
Lack of clothes exists too
 
7:56 PM
G-strings exists too. :3c
 
And you know what else exists?
 
circular?
 
Llamas
 
Llamas are nice,
@ScottW ?!?! BUT I SAW THEM IN THE EMPERORS NEW GROOVE, THEY MUST BE REAL. ;~;
 
Llamas are dicks
And sometimes ducks
Yo momma's too fat to be real
 
8:19 PM
If we made a recursive algorithm to measure your mother's mass, it would result in a stack overflow.
 
She's unfat.
Due to overflow into negative.
 
... that's wraparound, right. Overflow is... float IIRC
 
right
 
@Stacked will you be chatting when I wake up tomorrow?
 
@Crowz did you really think an integer is 32 bytes?
Or were you joking?
 
8:26 PM
I knew it SOUNDED very wrong, but I knew it had 32
I'm like "wait... isn't 3 bytes a color? Hm"
 
32 bits not bytes silly
 
See sidebar.
He really wrote bytes.
I just "awakened" from 3 hours of Age of Empires II HD.
It's still fun.
 
@StackedCrooked I know
 
user142019
8:48 PM
Just played AOE multiplayer.
 
user142019
Fucking awesome.
 
Jesus Christ, all of the questions have nothing to do with C++. Just localized library problems, I broke that and I broke this.
 
@DomagojPandža Indeed. questions are a bit better though
 
@Zoidberg do the old cheats still work?
 
Probably because newbies don't know about its existence and therefore do not use that tag
 
user142019
8:54 PM
@bamboon dunno
 
the game is steam-only right?
 
user142019
@bamboon dunno
 
user142019
I think so.
 
Also, there's a lot of search specifiers, but is there some way to force chronological descent? I am not really in the mood for a necrobadge.
[c++11] answers:0 For example, but no ordering.
 
What do you guys take a break on after, for example, an hour of fruitless debugging, wheres you know you are at the point that further doing it is futile?
 

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