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1:00 AM
It's a buggy piece of shit, how was it ever cool (apart from the underdelivered milestone stuff)
 
@Rapptz ... 'nuff said
 
@sehe Zelda games are usually named after a key element in the story.
 
I'm with @sehe, 'Ocarina' is kind of a silly name.
But a lot of cool things have silly names.
 
All words are silly when you think too much about them
 
I.. don't get it.
It's.. a fantasy game.
 
1:00 AM
Sometimes it's an object (OoT, MM, WW, SS), sometimes it's a person (TP, the Oracle games), sometimes it's a bad pun (ALttP).
 
@CatPlusPlus Never had a problem with it.
 
Experiment: take a common word you use every day, and think about it
Think about how it's spelled and pronounced
 
@caps The instrument exists in real life.
The ocarina is a wind instrument in the category of vessel flutes. Variations do exist, but a typical ocarina is an enclosed space with four to twelve finger holes and a mouthpiece that projects from the body. It is traditionally made from clay or ceramic, but other materials may also be used, such as plastic, wood, glass, metal, or bone. An example of an ocarina made of an animal horn is the medieval German gemshorn. History The ocarina belongs to a very old family of instruments, believed to date back over 12,000 years. Ocarina-type instruments have been of particular importance in...
 
for you illiterates ^ THE C++ LAND
 
1:01 AM
Damn you Etienne.
 
I'm faster than @Rapptz. That makes me righter.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: And The Philosopher's Ocarina [c++] [c++11] [c++1y] [no-gotchas] [no-questions] [no-tricks]
 
btw if you don't know what Trespasser is: lparchive.org/Jurassic-Park-Trespasser
 
@ScottW "more premature"
 
This LP is probably the best thing about Trespasser
 
1:02 AM
@ScottW On that regard, I'm pretty slow.
 
And in general
It's great just watch it dammit
 
Trespasser is one of those unfinished games, like Daikatana.
 
lol the game responsible for the video game crash
 
@CatPlusPlus I've had enough tuts for today
 
no one starred my map :(
 
1:04 AM
not again
 
Trespasser at least tried innovative stuff
Daikatana is just generic pile of shit
 
Tresspasser was good
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's because it was boring and old hat.
 
1:05 AM
@BartekBanachewicz What map?
 
@DeadMG :(
@CatPlusPlus scroll up
 
@CatPlusPlus Lowtax? The Lowtax?
 
Oh programming jokes
@EtiennedeMartel Yes
 
Wasn't aware he wrote game reviews.
 
For a good while he wrote the entirety of somethingawful dot com front page stuff
Also now does LPs of best games ever made
 
1:09 AM
Anyway, Wind Waker has the best end credits music.
 
if it's something, and it's awful, it's on something awful.
 
@DeadMG It's a pretty good name when you think about it.
 
I concur.
it quite effectively demonstrates what the site is about.
 
You take that back! :mad:
 
@ScottW What about YouTube?
 
1:12 AM
You hate on 4chan, tumblr and reddit yet go on SA?
 
@Rapptz Don't expect logic from a hater.
Hatred of that magnitute requires a healthy diet of double standards.
 
We have perfectly single standards
 
I used to go on GameFAQ's LUE board if that counts as odd
 
SA forums is the best 20bux I ever spent
 
lol
 
1:14 AM
@CatPlusPlus Well for example I remember that whenever I saw a velociraptor I was really scared, not because the dino was scary but because I knew that controlling the arm to aim was extremely hard and any kind of contact with the arm would have been equal to dropping the gun.
 
My perception of you has changed immensely.
 
No memes repeated ad nauseam, no image macros
Shitheads get trimmed pretty fast
Also the best emoticons ever
I don't know what your problem is, really :v
Shit that's common on reddit or tubmlr just doesn't fly here
I can never spell tumbrl right and I like it
 
I just think it's funny how amazingly hypocritical it is
 
Wut
@ScottW Keeps idiots out; also generates plenty of comedy
@Rapptz But really what's hypocritical here :confused:
 
SA is has little difference from 4chan aside from the paywall to feed on superiority as a barrier for "stupidity". Just like 4chan though there are some funny threads.
 
1:25 AM
Few years ago, maybe
 
Also, "no memes"?
Dude, a lot of memes originally came from SA too.
 
I know
I think you really haven't been on SA forums for a long while
I bet it doesn't have emoticons
 
I stopped in like 2009.
kinda
I hate the term
I don't know how SA is like now but I can probably guess based on recent trends I can notice from the internet.
 
It's better
You've been living under a rock or what
reddit is unmoderated crap for the most part
You can't have discussions with voting
It just doesn't work
 
reddit is okay if you skip the default subreddits.
I don't go to the defaults unless I'm bored, much less for discussion
 
1:38 AM
There are good parts, yes
But it's still crappy interface based around voting and hiding unpopular content
I could live on Let's Play forum alone
 
damnit
I was trying to convince people that I was Vigilante, only the Vigilante shot random people like a fucking moron and I used intelligent logic to prove I was Vigilante.
 
TV show and webcomic discussions are pretty fun to follow, too
(btw SA was the reason /r/jailbait got banned :v)
 
So.. SA stayed the same?
 
I don't know, define the same
 
Still the same internet vigilante crap?
I'm bored.
All this conversation is doing is making me realise I've been on the internet for too long
 
1:44 AM
It was just reddit's shit, haven't heard of anything else in the past 2 years
 
@DeadMG hm?
 
@Pawnguy7 I was trying to imitate an idiot, but did clever things in order to do so, which revealed that I was not, in fact, an idiot.
 
Why are you trying to imitate an idiot?
 
He's playing a game
 
I cannot think of a game where you do that.
 
1:53 AM
I'm playing a game where I convince other people that I am the good guy and the other guy is the bad guy, so they kill the other guy instead of me.
 
Mafia probably
 
of course in this instance I am Team Evil.
 
This is an online multiplayer game, or in person?
 
Mafia can be played either way.
this specific instance was online though.
I'm so fucking sick though
I want desperately to go to bed and sleep but
 
Very interesting.
Although.
How do you find people?
 
1:57 AM
online
 
I mean.
How do you narrow in on the bad guys?
 
well
some good-guy roles can tell you some information about them
 
Detective?
 
amongst others
 
Do you know who is detective?
 
1:58 AM
of course not.
if you knew who was what role, it would ruin the point of the game.
 
This is true.
 
obviously you can "prove" you are detective if you know who visited who.
but then Mafia knows you are detective and will gun you down in the night.
also some Mafia roles can impersonate Town investigating roles.
 
What reasoning is used to kill people during the day?
(going of the Wikipedia article)
 
oh, the variant described on Wikipedia isn't very close.
the reality is that the very base game of Mafia is a very flexible starting point and there are thousands of variants.
 
I actually have played a game sort of like this. In Minecraft, as it happens.
 
2:00 AM
Starcraft 2 Mafia has about 40-50 distinct roles.
 
In that settings.
 
usually you kill people during the day based on one of three things
 
There is...
 
first, if someone claims to be an invest role, and they found them to be the bad guy
 
But anybody can claim that?
 
2:01 AM
yes, but most bad guys don't fake-claim invest roles.
 
Because you know the role of who dies?
 
the problem is that if I claim to be Sheriff and that you're the Mafia, when the Town kills you and it turns out you're not Mafia, I'm dead.
 
Ah.
 
fake-claiming invest roles is more common in variants that don't reveal role on death
second, if they have claimed to have a role which you can show is impossible
 
Was this related to the game where you were pretending to be a racist?
 
2:02 AM
@CatPlusPlus that LP is amazing
 
Yes, that was a game of Mafia.
 
@Jefffrey Which one :v
 
Hrm.
 
most Mafia games contain pre-set numbers of roles from pre-set random categories.
for example, Town Protective is always Bodyguard, Bus Driver, Doctor, or Escort.
 
Ok. What is the third reason?
 
2:03 AM
so if you got three people claiming Doctor and there's only two TPs
ah, thirdly, people get lynched for their behaviour and attitude during the day.
 
So basically "I don't like this person"?
 
not usually.
 
I got all you guys presents for Christmas!
 
Or like.
 
you can be lynched for being negative like spamming the chat or pissing off everybody, but it usually has to be pretty bad.
 
2:04 AM
Suspicious deceptive behavior?
Oh.
 
more often it's for voting up other people too readily.
or for not speaking in the chat.
 
TIL that my programming is. in fact, "not awful"
 
@CatPlusPlus the trespasser one. I really like the guy's sense of humor.
 
the game where I was pretending to be a racist
I had a role called Disguiser.
 
2:06 AM
@CatPlusPlus my python at least, my C++ is an abomination
 
it's a bad-guy role where basically, you kill someone and then take their place.
 
Yeah, Trespasser is commonly used as an example of Really Damn Good LP
(also from SA)
 
so if one of the Town investigates them, and they are clean, then you take their place, people will think you are now clean, or that you have a certain role.
so disguising can be a very powerful mechanic, if you can pass off yourself as the previous owner of that identity.
 
I imagine that can be difficult.
 
ah not really
 
2:08 AM
I imagine many of our behaviors we do not implicitly recognize.
 
most people in the game have never played with any others before, never will again, and the names are all anonymized at the start anyway so you don't even know who the other guy is.
it's not like, I dunno, robot trying to impersonate me and carry that off to you.
 
Well.
Let's say the person you are going to become.
 
Well we did all change names to DeadMG once
 
has a name called "HITLER WAS RIGHT KILL ALL THE FUCKING NIGGERS".
 
Was a... fairly average chat participant.
 
2:09 AM
which is the approximate name he did take.
 
If you talk a bit less or a bit more, they can pick up on it.
 
@CatPlusPlus I well remember.
 
Then again, that dynamic might change even for the same person.
 
well, the main issue for anyone trying to impersonate me is bin speed.
I don't know why, but I'm legendary for being the fastest binner in the West.
anyone trying to impersonate me simply couldn't bin fast enough.
 
So this is a... mod of sorts, in this SC?
 
2:10 AM
yes.
the default Starcraft gameplay is fail to play (fun to watch though).
 
Seems odd to play games using other games, but I have done that.
 
didn't watch any WCS.
too sick.
@Pawnguy7 The custom maps are the only reason I bought the game.
many of them are improvements or variants on custom maps for Warcraft 3, which itself had many that were improvements or variants on custom maps for Brood War.
 
I don't think I have played any of their games, no.
 
well.
 
Using user-generated content is a pretty good idea though.
 
2:13 AM
no game ever became huge because of its mapping or modding community.
but otherwise-huge games can have huge mapping or modding communities.
and the poster child for exactly this is Blizzard RTS games.
 
I think my favorite example of user content is canvas rider.
 
@ScottW I fucking hate it.
all you could find in WC3 was Dota Dota Dota.
before Dota, there was a lot more variety and other interesting stuff.
true.
much like CS did for HL.
well
what I'm really saying about LoL is that it doesn't really have that much to do with how big DoTA was.
it's super big because Riot knew what the fuck they were doing.
they gave the client away for free, they did serious promo work
Blizzard mismanaged WoL esports badly in comparison.
they rested on their laurels and were like, "Well, we had Brood War, therefore we're the bestest!".
and now LoL is bigger than SC2 as an esport, I would say.
 
I played SC2 once
I got beta key for some inexplicable reason
 
eh
 
Maybe that's why I won
 
2:17 AM
RoC sucked too, it was TFT that was great.
and SC wasn't very good either, it was only BW that was OK.
 
Can you please stop using acronyms
 
so personally it's no amazement that HoTS is so much better than WoL
and WoL kinda sucked.
 
I still haven't played a real Loles game
 
I should have waited for RoS before buying D3
 
It just seems like effort
And not really a compelling fun effort like KSP
I figured
 
2:19 AM
Warcraft 3: Reign of Chaos (first release) and The Frozen Throne (expansion).
 
@StackedCrooked More than just a normal typhoon. I'm thankful the monstrosity haven't visited our place, though it's pretty sad for those who have been.
 
well
 
I played a bit of W3
 
I'm gonna go try to sleep now, wish me luck.
 
Even bought it
 
2:20 AM
@CatPlusPlus how's your C++ chat going (or not going)?
was it?
 
Success.
 
@DeadMG Sleep well for tomorrow's consulting. :)
 
@User17 what did you do with User16?
 
@ScottW I did, he's stubborn
@ScottW No, but nobody seems to have time
Programming is the last thing I want to do
And I still have shitload of work for uni and well, work
@ScottW Yes
I could just play games and watch LPs all day
 
@Pawnguy7 User16 ran away after been discovered it was a possum
 
2:23 AM
@ScottW Buy more internet
I pay about 20€/mo for 60Mbps/6Mbps
You live in the swamp, too?
Just call Robocop
 
@DeadMG with all these roles, this game seems very complex
Chat died?
 
@EtiennedeMartel That makes it actually pretty cool.
 
2:49 AM
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xbone. Made by gamers, for gamers. If you spend a lot of time following major nelson on twitter you can really see how much they care about the gamer community. Everyone else is in it for the money. With the xbox you know you are getting a strong sturdy american made product, and not some cheap plastic from japan. Nintendo still makes quality hardware, but it's underpowered, and designed for the casual audience. MS is the only company that you can trust to really care about us, the mat
 
Based on Boost 1.55's changelogs, there's not much new goodies, well, except for the MSVC 2013 bugs.
 
lol MSVC2013
 
I want Clang on Windows. :(
A working one.
 

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