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12:00 AM
lol
 
user1804599
And yes, I’m really bored.
 
@rightfold bestow custom behaviour, e.g. implement a lifted operator< for std::optional<mytype> (without invading namespace std) e.g.?
 
user1804599
Right.
 
Fold.
Admit it. It's a good example. (Except, std::optional could just lift operator<< by default and probably has)
 
user1804599
It’s a good example.
 
12:04 AM
I'm trying to think of examples that are less likely to be so obvious that they're standard already. But you get the gist. It's about non-invasively providing custom behaviour for your types, even when used indirectly (std::deque<mytype> is indirect)
But it's late. I'll trust your imagination to be good enough
 
user1804599
What value do you want to pass? vOv — rightfold 4 secs ago
 
@sehe "+67,755" would look even better
 
user1804599
I would like 67755 arrows that all point up.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's a lot of inches. I'm not sure she would be pleased
@rightfold You are on reddit too much
 
user1804599
Bloomberg.
 
12:07 AM
@Infested google.com/… might give you some other helpful links
 
user1804599
You Know You’re Trans* When: #2638 You keep a baggie of cornstarch in your back pocket at all times.
 
umm...do I dare ask what the cornstarch is for?
 
> Packing is the art of making it look like you have a realistic bulge in your pants to pass as male. If you are an FTM or a drag king this is essential. This can also be handy if you have to do a part in a play or just for fun -- cornstarch
@Code-Guru ^ see, google is gonna reform your life!
 
user1804599
This is hilarious:
 
I agree
 
user1804599
12:15 AM
Me too.
 
user1804599
 
This Rich Family Killed an Elephant while it was eating. Let's make them famous. I see 5 animals and 1 elephant http://t.co/kBokxYDJ4X
 
@Code-Guru thx!
 
user1804599
This Twitter guy Capitalized random Words while it was Tweeting.
 
12:26 AM
@CatPlusPlus ^ lol
 
user1804599
And another use std::vector dammit entry. :D
 
user1804599
Also, it astonishes me that H2CO3 hasn’t complained yet about how much overkill std::vector is.
 
@Code-Guru good night
 
@sehe I read that as "Google Pus".
 
12:39 AM
I don't think that was an accident
@rightfold We should send in the medics
 
user1804599
Sleeptime.
 
user1804599
Goodbye.
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
 
39° fucking degrees in my body. I'm evaporating. Good evening folks.
 
Because water turns to steam at 39º. Not sure what a degree degree is.
 
12:47 AM
2 hours ago, by sehe
@DeadMG You're delirious!
It's contagious
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm fairly certain it was a metaphor.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I read that as "Google Pus". Oh, it is pus.
 
Ah, a metaphor! Yes. Like Canada
:D
 
@EtiennedeMartel You mean, 39° fucking degrees was a metaphor for a measure with a surplus unit
 
1:00 AM
how do you get row count in 2d array?
 
lol. that's a good question
 
1:22 AM
lol, google+ is getting so much love (possible nsfw) in the last days, it's almost touching.
this is why we can't have nice things...
 
imagine being a google+ dev
 
yay, I'm rich!
 
Out of curiosity, is anyone here embracing this new Google+ thingy?
 
@Jefffrey I stopped after they changed the GUI, in old G+ articles occupied 90% of the screen, in new G+ articles occupy 40% of the screen and I can see the full text.
 
I'm just going to say one thing: WHY GOOGLE? Why?. And that's it.
 
1:35 AM
I must say I am a pedophile, I have this urge to touch baby chicks - I mean little baby magpies :x
 
you tell em
 
& I am semi proud to say I have succeeded yesterday when the baby magpies were resting in the backyard
petted them a little
 
1:50 AM
@User17 You are encouraging them to come closer so that the shot spread will take them all out at once?
 
is fstream the only way to read in a file?
 
@Mr.1.0 no
 
what else is there because it doesnt seem to work for me?
 
it's more likely that you made an error rather than fstream not working
 
@Mr.1.0 fopen
 
1:54 AM
@Mr.1.0 Don't take it personally, but it seems to work for many others.
 
and therefore you should fix the error
 
@MartinJames They already come & beg for food all the times, they are also napping in the backyard in the afternoons when it is sunny. I could have caught them bare handed yesterday. But what would I do with 2 baby magpies?
 
@Mr.1.0 good lord, you are so wisdom thirsty. go drink some coke or something.
 
@User17 I have suggestions, (they are a pest here, as you may have already realised).
 
They are native birds here, illegal to kill them
 
1:56 AM
@User17 get a cat
 
@Mikhail Yeah - that usually works!
 
I have this evil plan: I will fatten them, so it would become hard for them to fly, instead they will just wobble in the backyard like pet chickens.
 
@MartinJames Then get a Lion for the cat infestation problem
 
I like wildlifes :p
 
@Mikhail Hmm.. I sense a recursion problem with that plan.
 
1:59 AM
prntscr.com/23cb3j ok so i did this and the .fail() always executes, and I have the txt file in the same directory are the exe
 
still help vampiring?
 
@Mr.1.0 if(!fullBlock)
 
With that said, I had a weird dream last night: I saw people fishing in a large indoor swimming pool like thing, but instead of catching fish, they caught a bunch of python like venomous dark skinned snakes ... scary
 
Oh, reminds me to check TPB for The Vampire Diaries S05
 
TPB?
 
2:00 AM
Pirate Bay
 
@User17 Only someone from australia would dream of this :P
 
@Pawnguy7 My brain is melting. I can't really think right now.
 
>_<
 
@Jefffrey Turn down the heating in your office.
 
@MartinJames I am the heating in this room.
The house thermometer is beeping and the computer is running at maximum fan's speed.
 
2:03 AM
@Borgleader Only Australians have actually experienced that.
 
Oh, wait, that might be the flash plugin for youtube.
 
@Jefffrey A good bet, yes. All cores at 100% often means flash:)
 
2:20 AM
wow, this and this is terrible
Its an online class and I already did my assignment and got an A. She said any site or anyone you know to do the assignment and compare. — user2977562 1 min ago
 
@Doorknob look at my comment on the answer
 
@nightcracker rand() is built-in...
nvm you edited the comment :P
 
@Doorknob and needs to be seeded with srand ;)
 
3:07 AM
@Doorknob !!
 
@Code-Guru ohai :D
I remember, I used to talk in the Java chat with you, right? :P
 
and Android, too, right?
 
yes I think so
 
How ya doin?
 
I'm good, how have you been?
 
3:11 AM
Pretty busy
writing an app and tutoring college students
 
oh, that's interesting :) I really need to do something useful programming :P
 
I don't know how useful my Android app is...and I keep getting stuck on stupid things that don't seem to be documented very well
 
that's what SO is for! :P
that is frustrating though
 
yah, I ask Qs sometimes.
I also found some people to help me with my app, so I bounce ideas off of them from time to time.
by "them" I mean only 2 ppl
 
lol, at least 2 people is some. I really only know one other person who can program, and he's... not the best :/
 
3:16 AM
heh
I know what you mean
 
but then the 2 ppl that are helping me, I've never met in person. I only met them online.
 
he copied my name :P
 
3:37 AM
 
@EtiennedeMartel where did you get this stupid thing from?
 
Facebook.
 
Well either it was made by an idiot, or I am one.
@EtiennedeMartel Actually, since you're here. Did you watch blizzcon at all?
 
@Borgleader Nope
 
Doorknob, Doorhandle, I guess there is not much more door furniture to go through. 'Letterbox'? 'Bellpush'?
 
3:44 AM
@MartinJames That eye thing
and locks
 
Oh yeah - 'keyhole'. I don't know what that 'eye thing' viewer is called. After watching some film where the apartment occupant was shot through the viewer, I no longer use them:)
 
when will clang build a working linux kernel?
 
4:01 AM
@Borgleader Oh yeah! Bunch of morons can't even handle their weapons safely, never mind use them responsibly. What an idiot!
 
4:23 AM
Hi folks.
OMG it's always frightening when you step in at the bad moment when everyone's asleep. Be back later. Roar.
 
@syam Not everyone. :)
 
OMG someone alive?
wouldn't have dreamt it xD
Hey Mark, saw a few of your interventions on SO, not bad at all :)
 
Too bad VC++ isn't supporting even the most minimal constexpr support yet.
@syam Thanks. And yours too! Really good answers, to be honest.
 
don't ever talk about vc++ to me, I hate this compiler. Like they're trying their best to drive us mad, right?
but thnks
 
@syam That's the best of their marketing strategy. ;)
 
4:34 AM
at least gcc and clang tend to do a good work
not perfect ofc but not bad either :)
 
But to be fair, MSVC's doing better compared to the earlier years. Faster releases and those stuff. Perhaps it's also true for VS overall.
 
oh sure MSVC 2013 is somewhat better than VC6 xD
just kidding ;)
 
@syam I'm excited once clang's windows libc++ is complete. Also like MingW able to use DX and WinAPI stuff.
 
well TBH I don't care much about windows specific stuff anymore so DX is out of my concern.
latetly I'm getting a bit of a "language lawyer" even though i don't have the level
I might not be up to it but that what I want to achieve :)
standards are, well, the beginning and the end to what we do, right?
 
@syam Pretty much the same with me. TBH, I don't like having standardese quoting answers as my top answers. Not to say they're bad answers, only that I like practical answers more.
 
4:41 AM
Hey! can someone help me with this please:) stackoverflow.com/questions/19897523/…
 
well UNFORTUNATELY standardese is necessary IMHO
we all hate it, sure, but we can't avoid it ;)
 
@syam I remember Sean Parent saying that good programmers must read the standard.
@syam Sadly, true.
 
@syam Haha thanks?
 
OMG Sean is such a god to me...
 
@user1555256 You already have posted a question in Stack Overflow. Surely there isn't much need to link that here.
 
4:43 AM
I'm frightnened just how much I learnt from people like Sean or Herb or whatever
 
@MarkGarcia Oh i know, I just don't think ill get an answer that why I'm asking you haha
 
@syam That's why we need to use std::rotate more.
 
@Mark rofl
 
@user1555256 There's more people in Stack Overflow than in individual chat rooms. ;)
@syam Though TBH, I haven't really used std::rotate. Not once! :P
 
Yeah, look at us we're like, two? The SO front page is hundreds of people...
 
4:45 AM
@user1555256 ^^
 
@MarkGarcia I couldn't find what i needed anywhere on stackoverflow.com ;)
 
@Mark don't worry I didn't use it once either
 
dude this new version of office 2013 is off the hook, i'm just pressing random stuff to see the visual effects. OMG. I can't even do any work.
 
@Mikhail lol. That's pretty much my reaction when I've first tried it.
 
@syam Whats do you mean?
 
4:47 AM
the hardest part in c++ imho is to learn all the goodies the STL gives us
the language itself is easy, despite all the traps
but the stl? uggghhhhhhhhhh
 
To learn and to find. There seems to be all sorts of new stuff when you go through standard library docs.
 
what frighte
oopsg
 
web developers?
 
what frightens me is when i hear people like herb or stl or alexei...
they really have a way to make you understand you don't know shit
even though i've been around for like 20 years O_o
 
@syam idk, exception handling is hard and concurrency is is hard... Add the two together...
 
4:51 AM
yup
 
@syam Also writing code instead of refactoring code is hard
 
@syam True. There's a real difference between just reading and hearing them talk.
 
@syam fuck you C++ is hard
 
well, isn't that the very reason we love it? ;)
 
lol
The "STL" is the easiest part of the language
 
4:52 AM
@syam lol right
 
we have to be masochists
 
I started documenting my code today
 
xD
@Rapptz When I said STL I meant the person, not the lib
 
@Rapptz I'm glad that's past tense. :P
 
@Rapptz Better late than never, I guess.
 
4:53 AM
(yeah there's someone whose moniker is STL)
 
@JerryCoffin I was going to do it as I go but deadmg told me that it's too early and I might end up rewriting everything
 
@Rapptz What did you document?
 
the worst part is, he's wotrking on the VC STL iplementatio, xD
 
@Mikhail Currently only this
 
(add the missing letters yourself, I'm drunk)
 
4:55 AM
I spent most of my time making doxygen look decent
 
@Rapptz Are you writing Boost?
 
just utilities
 
@Rapptz Oh come on, apart CSS what is thzere?
(seriously currious)
 
@syam Might also be rewriting their STL implementation. :)
 
@Rapptz I want to see somebody make some threadsafe containers, i fucking hate writting my own thread safe containers
 
4:57 AM
@syam lol have you seen default doxygen?
 
@Mikhail Boost?
 
@Rapptz Also producer consumer queues, fucking hate writting the same thing over and over again
 
yeah it's awful but far from unusable
 
looks like crap
 
so, well, you're working on CSS so?
don't forget to contribute back
we all could use it :p
 
4:59 AM
yeah I worked on CSS + custom header/footer and a bunch of other options in the output
 
fu I still gotta find the solution for su problem
 
@Rapptz Might be the default style's intent. You'll easily know a crap library from a good one if they have different styles.
 
it's been eating me for like a year
hate to not find a solution to a problem where I understand the original problem -_-
feels like i'm slacking
 
I like my docs to look like this. Just add some syntax coloring and it'll look real good.
 
I like it to look like en.cppreference.com
but that's too much manual work (I've tried it before) :(
 
5:03 AM
@Rapptz I knew that was coming. :P
 
@MarkGarcia No offence but it reminds me SGI documentation
 
 
@syam That's because it is
 
@syam THAT IS the SGI STL documentation. ;)
 
gimme a few seconds while I throw up
BRB
 
5:03 AM
lol
 
burp
Imma back
xD
No srsly you can't have that as a model
we'rz not in 2000 any more
cppreference is certainly a better work
 
@syam Well, perhaps use a more readable font. I just like how those docs are structured.
 
oh, as to the structure, sure, I wont argue
but the looks?
Excuse me, brb, gotta throw up again
 
@syam Brings back the glory of 2000. :)
 
cpreference does a much better job
the stucture is the same IMHO
but at least the looks don't look like they came from the 80's xD
 
5:11 AM
BTW, do you name your enums plurally?
 
but yeah, cpprefrence rocks
if only I could understand how to edit the site :(
too complicated for my poor brain
 
For enum class, it's kind of awkward to use something like states::closed because in a sense, it is a class.
 
and, no, most of the time (not always, mind you, you iknow how it is) enums are singular
I HAVE TO STATE THIS AT THIS POINT: I'M NOT EVEN HALF DRUNK
or maybe just half
brb gotta grab a beer
bear?
i can't get a hang on your weird language
anyway, C++11 is a boon
so much awesome stuff...
 
It's been almost three years and we're still fascinated by it.
 
yeah which tells us a lot
I for one am still fascinated by mere move semantics
how frightening is that?
pass by value is still a wonderful and awesome and frightening beast :)
I for one still cower away from it xD
 
5:23 AM
@syam Hey passing pointers is also passing by value. :P
 
@Mark you want me to puke on you? :p
Stop kidding ^^
 
@syam I again generally follow Sean Parent's rule to receive by value parameters that you'll store or modify.
 
Well yea
I think he was the one who taught me that too
 
I think STL have also mentioned it.
 
not sure
but there's the good ol' "want speed? pass by value" article
which is an old one, waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before C++11 existed
but yeah, STL is a very frightening guy
he knows so much I piss in my pants ;o
but, I've added a third to the "pantheon" lately
that's, errr... that guy from Adobe
 
5:28 AM
@syam Unfortunately, there mostly isn't anymore. It was written by Dave Abrahams on C++ Next, which Dave mostly seems to have run as an adjunct to his Boost consulting business. Dave, however, recently shut down that business and took a job at Apple. C++ Next seems to have died in the process.
 
lemme find his name
@JerryCoffin Please develop while I try to make sense of it? ;)
 
@JerryCoffin Yeah I thought that was odd..
His blog died and effectively all links to it did as well. I don't understand why. I thought it was temporary but I guess not.
 
@Rapptz Unfortunately, it looks to me like there's a pretty good chance that it's permanent.
 
Maybe the Internet archive still have it.
 
Dammit it's weird because I know who you're talking about and I heard him at GN2013 and yet I can't find his name because I' m tired (which is just another way to say I'm drunk)
BRB, puking
j/k
 
5:38 AM
Wait, are you guys talking about that article?
 
@EtiennedeMartel It probably does, but I haven't really needed to look. Might be nice to patch up a few links to it with ones that aren't stale, but I'm not sure -- lot of work for answers that are old enough they probably don't get read much any more.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah. It's just dead as in unupdated.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Hmm...yes. The last few times I'd looked for it, the DNS lookup failed. I'm heartened by its success this time though--one of those times I'm extremely happy if it turns out I was wrong when I predicted it was down permanently.
 
Yeah when I tried (numerous times have you) it was down.
 
5:42 AM
Maybe it's a sign of hope. :)
 
@JerryCoffin I suggest you rip that whole site, just in case.
 
TIL you can have an empty tuple.
 
Of course
 
Empty as in std::tuple<>.
 
yes
 
5:46 AM
@Borgleader It was not that apparent to me. It's somewhat errorish.
 
Well you can have empty structs, why not empty tuple?
 
Yeah... it's just me. :P
 
template<typename... Args> void f(Args... args) can be called as f() just fine.
So it's the same concept
 
@EtiennedeMartel Might not be a bad idea..
 
@Rapptz I get that. With the belief that I can't have empty tuples, I've actually made unnecessary work-arounds. :(
 
5:49 AM
Morning
and why WHY WHY am I awake at this ungodly time of the day???
fuck insomnia
 
@Tony and I'm betting yo're not even worse than me
 
@TonyTheLion To entertain those of us for whom it's still Sunday evening, of course.
 
@syam Not sure what your situation is?
@JerryCoffin Yes Jerry. :)
 
@TonyTheLion and we thank you for it <3
 
7am here, and I just got back from pucking (others can can confirm)
 
5:51 AM
<3
@syam It's almost 6 am here, but I've been awake since about 4 am
urgh
 
@syam s/pucking/puking/ FTFY just in case. :P
 
Hey it happens
Today's my bday guys
or was
 
Why I love Top Gear
 
saw that
 
5:53 AM
@syam Happy birthday!
 
but anyway, my friends thow me a party so hard I'm still dunk now
threw*
or, welll
 
@syam You have friends? Wtf are you doing here...
 
thank you borgleader, yes i do
do*
luv you too
 
you can edit your messages, click the down arrow on the left
 
ok will remember that :)
 
5:54 AM
you have a 3 min window to do so
 
point is, i came home and i wasn't, err... too ok to get to bed xD
so I came here discussing c++ stuff which is always a winner
oops mail came in, gotta decrypt it, cya people
 
@syam See ya.
 
6:28 AM
@TonyTheLion Which raises an obvious question: are there any women interested in a morning swim with a polar bear? @Sehe might want to know... :-)
 
@TonyTheLion not exactly a lap dog
 
@TonyTheLion That's adorable
 

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