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12:00 AM
By the way, regarding concept-lite. There is no template definition checking for now. But afaik Bjarne mentioned that it could be done in future. I wonder if it is possible in general case - like what to do in case when constraint is something SFINAE-like - should compiler reverse it?
 
Xeo
@Rapptz "insert coin" it was
 
/<[^>]*[\^[^]]*>.*]/
Wow.
 
Xeo
alright, time for sleep fo realz
 
night
 
Good night
 
12:32 AM
Hrm...
I am tempted to try the audio again.
 
Ell
Use vlc
Do convert/save
 
The code for it, I mean.
I had abandoned it out of both lack of content, and design issues.
 
Ell
Oh
 
Wait, you said this takes MIDI as input?
 
How should I group classes (that have public components) together without the use of polymorphic containers?
 
12:36 AM
Try duct tape
 
That might work. Lemme try.
Nah, not resistant enough. My classes are huge.
 
@Jefffrey define public components
 
@Pawnguy7 class X { public: Position position; };
Position is a public component of X.
 
I don't remember the last time I had one of those.
What are they being grouped for?
 
Ell
Yeah vlc takes midi
@Jeffrey why do you want them to be grouped together?
 
12:40 AM
Because I need to loop through everyone of them a lot of times and do N loops (for N types) isn't gonna scale much.
 
Ell
But, what are you going to do in the loops?
and youll have to do n^2 loops anyway if you put them all in one contsiner
Wait not n^2 loops
What I mean is the total number of iterations is the same
 
I'm going to access and/or modify their components (depending on which type it is I can figure out what component it is supposed to have) (eg. brute-force collision detection).
@Ell I know.
 
Ell
So in each iteration you are going to check what component it is then do something based on that?
 
Brute-force? Wasn't it you telling me to use an quadtree?
 
Ell
So why not eliminate the checking and separate them into different containers?
you gain nothing from keeping them all in one container if you are only going to check the type each iteration anyway
 
12:45 AM
@Ell Because I'm possibly gonna have a lot of different entities (~50) and doing a loop for each different container isn't going to be painless.
 
You have 50 different moving entities?
 
Ell
Writing checks for 50 won't be nice either. Can you add components at runtime?
 
No.
 
Wait, aren't you already using the entity-component system?
 
@Pawnguy7 Even if they are 10 and I want to add 1, I should create a new container, remember where all other recursions are done, add a new loop everywhere, etc.
@Pawnguy7 No I dropped that. Cat extensively shown to me why it sucked.
 
12:48 AM
This is true.
 
Ell
Well all I can suggest is maybe a common base class with an update function, or some redesign anyway
 
@Jefffrey Ah. Reasons you understood?
 
@Pawnguy7 Of course.
 
Hrm... is an interface an option?
 
@Ell An entity is not supposed to know how to update himself. That's responsibility of the external engine, which have an unfocused look (e.g: it knows where other entities are).
 
12:51 AM
Is an entity masculine? :D
 
@Pawnguy7 It depends. What would I put in the interface?
 
Whatever they have in common, I suppose.
 
Which can possibly be nothing.
 
Well.
If they have nothing in common, why are you trying to group them together?
 
Either I go with a multi inheritance spree or I use boost::variant combined with some container.
6 mins ago, by Jefffrey
@Pawnguy7 Even if they are 10 and I want to add 1, I should create a new container, remember where all other recursions are done, add a new loop everywhere, etc.
 
12:55 AM
What do you do when looping through them?
 
12 mins ago, by Jefffrey
I'm going to access and/or modify their components (depending on which type it is I can figure out what component it is supposed to have) (eg. brute-force collision detection).
 
Ell
@Jeffrey I agree in theory, but if you do that you need to write 50 loops
Anyway night
 
Good night.
 
So you want to loop through everything, and do whatever pertains to it?
Or specifically collision detection?
 
Collision detection (with the brute force algorithm) is just an example.
 
12:58 AM
Are you saying, you basically want to do what you did with the entities, but without using it?
 
What did I do with the entities?
 
I don't know.
If it is anything like the example I had.
It is sort of like a global collection.
Each system loops through, and does things with what matches it.
 
@Pawnguy7 Can't do that with classes that hold components. I can't know what a class public members are.
 
If things have something in common, then you can combine them. If they don't, then I don't know if there is anything you can do, really. Odds are, you need to do different things with them anyway.
Maybe ask @CatPlusPlus
@CCInc what have you been up to?
 
Sigh.. not much
 
1:06 AM
Games? :D
 
Yes
 
Actually an interface could work out.
 
@CCInc I made a hard game recently.
 
Oh?
 
1:11 AM
lol
looks fun
 
It is. Mostly.
You cannot fit through one block gaps though.
 
why not
 
Bugs :(
Also, the green things occasionally decide to walk through walls.
 
lol
 
I think I fixed the bullet bug though.
They used to go through diagonals.
Now I am working on Snake.
#4.
@Jefffrey should we rename that?
 
1:15 AM
What?
 
Oh.
For some reason, my brain assumes people know what I am thinking of :D
The "Snake 4"
I think I am going to make a blog post.
On how git ate my homework.
 
make it a temporary 3 headed snake after eaten mutated golden apples (super boost)
 
How would you control that?
 
time limit
also 3 heads = 3 pixels instead of one
 
Would it do something besides visuals?
 
1:24 AM
higher chance of getting the apple, also each apple eaten during the period gets more point?
 
I'm trying to sign on to reddit, but the name and password they gave me says "Invalid Password." It's like Obamacare.
 
That reminds me.
I am pretty sure Facebook is even more broken now.
It always makes me log in twice.
 
>using facebook
 
Want to hear the story?
 
I believe I'll pass on that one
 
1:39 AM
Aw.
 
1:56 AM
@ScottW um... I am going to inject sky to justify my laziness.
um.
I don't know how to respond.
passes nonexistent needle
Progress on the console RPG?
Not sure. I am guessing a lot can attain the same things with the console.
 
@Rapptz Didn't know you are an Ann Coulter fan.
 
I'm not.
 
Who is that?
I see.
 
@Rapptz Hrm... do they play chess?
 
2:04 AM
Probably not.
 
The queen is the best piece, is it not?
 
Yes.
 
In the time I played it, I don't recall any derogatory remarks that the comment suggests.
I don't really think of pieces having a gender, to be honest.
@ScottW what languages do you know?
 
@ScottW Haskell
 
2:24 AM
My right eye lid has been jumping for a week, I am so going to inject botox into it and stop it from jumping.
 
2:41 AM
omg omg omg mac can open .docx format omg omg omg
I am so ignorant
 
Perhaps .rtf?
 
TextEdit opened the .docx file
 
3:07 AM
You know Microsoft releases Office for Mac right?
 
3:35 AM
yeah
 
4:06 AM
mac sucks - it hides the scrolling bar and it is hard to get it when it's hidden
 
3 days and 3h
 
Hah
you europeans have to wait longer
> Available: 22 October 2013
This game will unlock in approximately 3 hours
If I got the upgrade thing correctly it shouldn't cost me much to get it
> New purchase (if you don’t already have the game): £12.99/€19.99/$19.99
Own the basic game (with no DLC): £6.99/€7.99/$9.99
Own the game and Missing Link DLC: £3.49/€3.99/$4.99
Should be 5$ for me :)
To be honest though, I'd pay 20$ for this if the upgrade didn't exist.
 
Eh
It was fun to play, but I'm not playing it again
 
4:39 AM
I think I found @EtiennedeMartel 's room
 
5:12 AM
alright.
just spent five and a half hours in the hospital
 
How are you
 
well, it could be worse.
I've been poked, prodded, and thoroughly questioned by a good chunk of the senior doctors at the local hospital, and they appear to have decided that surgery is the best choice
so I won't have to debate the matter with my upcoming consultation.
I also determined that, apparently, there's a medicine called Buscopan which is basically explicitly designed to, and quite successful at, eliminating gallbladder activity which my GP neglected to mention
finally, I also determined that the most powerful over-the-counter painkiller available in the UK is completely not effective at all, and only makes things much, much worse.
I also got a bunch of blood tests and stuff done.
now I am finally looking to be able to sleep.
 
That's nice
 
@DeadMG At least that's positive.
@DeadMG codeine?
 
5:30 AM
speaking of which, I have spent over $3000 & now my teeth seem to be infected :/
If I lost the two teeth in the front due to infect I would indeed look like a granny
 
6:17 AM
Maybe unplug and dry it, dumbo
Throw it out and buy a new one then
Be glad you didn't pay 200 for a stupid keyboard
Bah, I have to go to a seminar and listen for 3 hours to some stupid boring presentations about web
 
I've washed keyboards in the dishwasher a number of times, and it always worked fine afterwards -- but at least after going through the dishwasher, typically takes around 3 to 4 days to dry out completely so it's entirely back to normal again.
 
I love the way you type
 
@JerryCoffin Or you could spend 10 bux and not wait 4 days
 
@JerryCoffin me too, but only once
after I spilled orange juice on it ... hosed it with a water pipe then left it to dry for a month
 
6:21 AM
@CatPlusPlus you could, but I haven't found a keyboard (nearly) that cheap that I like.
 
I don't shop for keyboards, I use whatever I am given
 
Use a screen keyboard or something
 
I buy packages, usually keyboard & mouse were thrown in
 
Here copy mine: x
 
lol
a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
 
user1804599
6:29 AM
l
 
for you convenience, in case there are other characters you would need to copy & paste with
 
Damn I gotta do laundry, I'm almost out of socks
It's as if your x didn't talk to you anymore
badumtsh
Seriously fuck seminars
The worst part is that I'm expected to ask questions about those boring presentations
Like I fucking care about any of them
 
meh, hate those
 
Question 1: WHY AM I HERE
Question 2: WHAT AM I DOING WITH MY LIFE
Question 3: WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU PEOPLe
2
I'm still missing 2 questions
And I'll have to talk for 30 minutes about some shit
The course is called "web systems" but I have P2P as a subject
It doesn't even make sense
INTERNET IS NOT WEB YOU STUPID FUCKS
Interview questions I think
 
@CatPlusPlus Answer 1: finding victims
Answer 2: violating victims
Answer 3: victims
 
6:40 AM
Jan 15 at 20:28, by Cat Plus Plus
Also that list of questions is utterly silly
Possibly
 
@cat you ever get into orbit in the end?
 
Hey I got into orbit once
Anyway I'll be back in 3 hours
Gotta sit through this dreadful thing
 
7:17 AM
Oooh, people have been playing Kerbal? :o
I haven't tried the latest version with all the science stuff
 
user1804599
¡Hola! :3
 
@jalf do so, it's great fun
 
I spent a bunch of time on 0.21 though
 
really mixes up the game when you start with only one pod, only one tank, only one engine and only one booster.
 
Landed on Minimus and got back in one piece :o
 
7:27 AM
@jalf and?
 
@thecoshman ah yeah, I can imagine
 
I currently have a lander in a 8k high orbit around minmus, just finished maxing out science from that. Going to try landing it soon.
 
@thecoshman oh, I also sort-of landed on the mun once
 
AFAIK though, the science system currently has no way of directly rewarding things like space stations
 
landed on the side of a crater
and just when my kerbal opened the hatch to go outside, the lander started sliding sideways into the crater
 
7:29 AM
my first .22 landing on Mun feel over as it landed, luckily I was light enough to be able to just accelerate along the ground up a slight slope and back into orbit.
@jalf lol
 
I think I recorded it
so he just stood on the lander watching the moon slide past, before going back inside and taking off again :D
then I ran out of electricity so I couldn't steer, and had to give up on a second landing attempt
so on minimus I was careful to find a flat area, which helped :D
brb
 
plus it takes next to no fuel to land and get off again with minmus. I think it's actually easier to land on (not that I evr have)
 
Xeo
7:52 AM
@ScottW lol
 
@ScottW meh, the only good onion articles are the believable ones
 

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