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user1182183
2:00 PM
Srsly how do that algorithms work on one gigabyte files XD
 
@GamErix Yes, that's the point.
 
Xeo
Ha, a mail confirming that they'll get back at my application next week, since they've been uber-busy this week (a sign they need more people)
 
sbi
@DeadMG What's 2/3 year of experience? Isn't that 8 months?
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus even one tiny bit in a one gigabyte file?
 
user784668
2:00 PM
@GamErix It may.
 
Yes. That's why it's used to verify exactness.
 
@Xeo offer them an interview if and only if they pay for the dinner
 
@GamErix by being very quick. It 's known as checksum or more accurately: message digest)
 
@GamErix Hashes are designed to make hash differ a lot with very small change
 
(Skipping over the fact that MD5 sucks and you shouldn't ever use it for anything)
 
Xeo
2:01 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf lol
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus I have to admit that those programs which generat those sums are fast for even big files
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus that's why I use whirlpool everywhere
 
If anyone can look at it and spot what I'm missing I would be very grateful
 
user784668
@CatPlusPlus Then what should I use if I want to find more weaknesses in MD5?
 
@Fanael A brain.
 
user1182183
2:03 PM
@Fanael these days almost all md5 hashes are cracked
 
user1182183
Whirlpool offers 1,6096079122395561512061763913577e+199 unique combinations :P
 
user784668
@GamErix Key word: more.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Cryptographic hashes do. There are hashes designed to not differ that much when the input changes, used to compare for similarity.
 
@CatPlusPlus okey.
 
I don't remember the name.
 
2:04 PM
wtf
I balanced a semi-spherical object on it's edge
 
@Fanael A hammer.
 
is that even physically possible?
 
No, of course not, that's why it's happening.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG what object?
 
it's a paperweight
 
user1182183
2:05 PM
@DeadMG nano precision + vacuum, yes.
 
it's a sphere with the bottom sliced off
 
It's probably imperfect enough.
 
sbi
@DeadMG And would you mind changing your name back to kbok? Thanks you.
 
@sbi I still got pinged there
 
LOL
I'm confused
 
sbi
2:06 PM
@DeadMG Huh? That should be filed as a bug. I referred to a message, not a user name!
 
user1182183
@TonyTheLion happens to me everyday when talking with my GF, don't worry, you get used to it
 
user1182183
@CatPlusPlus why? everything is perfectly fine in my relationship.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG It should be green, but you shouldn't get pinged from it
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus He claims to be 24.
 
user1182183
2:08 PM
@sbi i'm 17!! how many times do I need to repeat :/
 
@sbi You're not paying enough attention
 
sbi
@GamErix This says you're 24.
 
@sehe isn't that better described as "exotic dancer"?
 
Hello.
 
user1182183
@sbi ye sure it says, I write down that I'm bill gates and you believe? :D
 
2:09 PM
@sbi consider the grasshopper, who says she's 54 and taking c++ classes.
 
o btw
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus I do, but I can't remember which of you young folks was in your twenties, and which only claimed to be.
 
user1182183
but ok just for you guys I will change it to the good date
 
sbi
@GamErix No, you're not doing it for us. You're doing it because you are annoyed.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf So many lies in here, oh my.
 
2:10 PM
Yay, I asked an evil OpenSSL question on SO, since no one here would admit to being experts on the subject
 
@sbi I'm 23.
 
user1182183
@sbi ye :p too xD It was just temporary cuz google had indexed a bit too much about me
 
@sbi I'm 20
 
@sbi Most of us are early twenties AFAIK.
I am, robot is, Etienne is, pretty sure the cat is
 
Xeo
<- 21
 
sbi
2:11 PM
Yeah, so now I paid attention to all of you stating your age. Can I now go back to forgetting about it? Thanks.
 
i'm amazed that they can cut off large tracts of my body (well, centimeters anyway) and i feel no pain
 
Just leave forgetting to me
 
Xeo
@sbi Getting grumpy because you're probably older than three of us combined? :P
 
user1182183
@Xeo haha xD
 
@sbi Hey, you're the wisest amongst us. Or something. Maybe.
 
sbi
2:13 PM
@Xeo Actually I am not. Also, I'd feel grumpy if I had to go back to being as green and dumb as you guys are.
 
What does that even mean?
 
Sounds like butthurt to me.
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel What's that to do with remembering everyone's age? Also, I'd much rather leave that honor to Jerry, who obviously is wiser than I am.
 
user1182183
@EtiennedeMartel Can you measure wisdom ? :o Maybe experience but not wisdom I think :P you can say more or less but you can't do it on a group of people
 
@sbi You're the oldest.
 
2:14 PM
@GamErix Wut? W.A.Y.T.?
 
How old is sbi?
 
I'm taking bets
 
user1182183
@sehe What am I talking about... well you cannot compare "wisdom" of groups of people :P only individuals
 
sbi
@Rapptz Well, I'll say that much: I am not the oldest here.
 
user1182183
@sbi it's not like we're asking how much you weight xD
 
2:15 PM
You're not making sense.
Adding more smileys could help
 
sbi
@GamErix >100kg.
 
@GamErix are you saying that voting results are unwise?
 
@sbi I think the oldest is between you, Jerry and probably Chimera.
 
user1182183
@sehe happens to me alot more than you think :P
 
@GamErix Don't underestimate how often I think
 
sbi
2:16 PM
@Rapptz What? I didn't know Chimera was even passed 30!? Also, you forgot about Alf.
 
@sbi Yeah, actually, I don't know how to do that.
 
user784668
@sehe Sense is overrated.
 
@sbi Chimera is 42.
 
sbi
@DeadMG Do it like everybody else did.
 
@sbi 30 rep?
 
2:17 PM
@sbi Which is ?
 
@Rapptz I'm 35. I think. Lessee... yeap. 35
 
@DeadMG Make a new SE account and change your name there.
 
@Rapptz Then "copy profile to all sites"
 
sbi
@DeadMG See here.
@Rapptz 42, eh? I bet you just pulled that out of thin air.
 
@sbi He actually told me.
Sep 4 at 17:26, by Chimera
@MooingDuck Yeah I assumed you to be older. I'm 42
 
sbi
2:20 PM
@Rapptz I thought he told you?
 
Oh yeah. I didn't know you had to create an account.
 
i think "digestion" was the word i was searching for
 
@sbi Same thing!
It was just a quick search for the number 42.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf That's a guy.
 
sbi
2:21 PM
@Rapptz Why? Are you @MooingDucks sockpuppet?
 
Aug 28 at 17:27, by Chimera
@Rapptz LOL yeah! But I really am 42. Haha.
 
sbi
@Rapptz Too late, @MooingDuck, we've already torn down your ugly mask.
 
@sbi Oh no :(
 
moar DeadMGs
 
i think, instead of sites like Facebook asking for gender and age, there should be an IQ test and a negative/positive/zero sum behavior test
 
sbi
2:24 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf But then I would be alone on the Internet! Who would I then laugh about??
 
it's more interesting to me whether a person is an up-and-about human being, than whether the person has these or that kind of genitalia.
 
Xeo
Welcome back, dead insect.
 
I'm 26
 
@sbi you wouldn't be alone. there are many folks of all kinds. i even had clinton's daughter as facebook friend for a while
did i tell about the time i shook hands with clinton?
 
sbi
2:25 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Yeah, but that's just because you're past the breeding age. :) The others here, OTOH, have barely entered.
 
@Xeo You really want me dead and buried
 
the police wouldn't let us out of a store in oslo, because he was on the way in. and then he had to shake hands with everybody
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf See, that alone would wipe you off the web, if I had my say.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Reminds me of Erdos.
 
@sbi Luckily you don't have your say.
 
Xeo
2:26 PM
@Cicada I just want you to live (die) your name!
 
Alrighty then. BRB
 
but now, rly, i have to go and I have to fix it
 
@sbi he he :)
 
mTimers.get<id_index>().find(id); <- it doesn't compile. id is of an exact index type
 
sbi
2:27 PM
@BartekBanachewicz id_index must be an integral constant. Likely isn't.
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz What is mTimers?
 
srsly
 
@Xeo boost::multi_index pastebin.com/e4DANFKX
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Your keyboard's vowels are broken.
 
hey, hands up: how many here have plotted the C curve?
 
2:29 PM
@Xeo Probably a tuple.
 
@sbi what must be an integral constant?
 
@sbi wht f thy rly wr?
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz The id_index seems to be a type, but in the code that compiles get<0> uses a value
 
@TonyTheLion Cry.
 
2:29 PM
There. We just have to wait for SO cache update.
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf what.
 
sbi
@Xeo "...id is of an exact index type"
 
@Xeo get<0> gives exactly the same error
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, ok :P
 
sbi
2:30 PM
DeadCicada, Rennes, France
13.2k 1 18 42
 
Also gravatar cache.
 
sbi
@Cicada Just your browser. A reload will do.
 
Xeo
lol'd
 
@sbi Sorry ("She's a genius") youtube.com/watch?v=IVA799gKNzo
 
2:31 PM
bzzt
 
sbi
@BartekBanachewicz "Unfortunately, this video is not available in Germany because it may contain music for which GEMA has not granted the respective music rights."
 
sounds of agony
faint chirp
 
fcking assholes. too bad, it's nice song
 
Don't edit :(
 
Jun 22 at 22:51, by Cicada
sad chirp
 
sbi
2:32 PM
@Cicada Now you've just got one more avatar that's nigh impossible to tell from a bunch of others, because it's a photography, and too realistic, for quick recognition.
 
@sbi so?
 
@sehe Would you happen to have some kind of hash table with direct access to all of my posts or wut
 
The ape likes to discern fast I guess
 
@sbi > implying yours is not
 
2:34 PM
@sbi > implying
 
sbi
Bad dog. get out!
 
@Cicada Yes. It resides here
 
@Cicada his is quite recognizable. He's watching you all the time. You can't miss it.
 
he's is quite recognizable. his watching you all the time
 
2:35 PM
voof
 
@Cicada fail
 
but the thing is, just for my writings i made an iterative version of the c curve
and i wonder if it's a new algorithm
 
@DeadMG vaf
 
i remember the smalltalk books had an iterative version of dragon curve, but that's not quite the same?
 
berf
 
sbi
2:36 PM
It seems you're talking to yourself, Alf.
 
@sbi You're talking to him now.
 
yeah, these guys have never even heard of the c curve
apparently
 
Neither have I tbh
 
I haven't
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I was wondering what that was, but too lazy to Google.
 
sbi
2:37 PM
@TonyTheLion But not about what he wants to.
 
@TonyTheLion u now, i posted a pic?
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Obviously C is curved.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion He posted it, you slow-wit cat!
 
wut
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Curved Cicada?
 
2:37 PM
@Cheersandhth.-Alf I did see that
@sbi no need for the name calling. Anyone ever told that is childish too?
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Yes, they did. I don't care.
 
Alrighty.
 
everybody knows cicada is johannes in disguise, and that he's 54 years old and have three hands
6
 
@sbi But you do seem to care when others do it.
@Cheersandhth.-Alf lol
 
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Right, I forgot.
 
2:39 PM
'nuff said
 
Hey, now that I'm a room owner, that means I can bin @Cicada's messages.
 
Who's nuff?
 
sbi
@Cheersandhth.-Alf Hands you call those?
 
@StackedCrooked You are.
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Well, I gotta keep the room tidy, no?
 
2:40 PM
I hate Windows Services with a passion
 
bv the way
 
@DeadMG Brain Explodes
 
how does people create a .pdf?
 
@DeadMG Did Google call yet?
 
yes
 
2:40 PM
@DeadMG With a chainsaw and 40 ounces of cheap vodka.
 
How'd it go?
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Export from Word?
 
@sbi If you consider that your duty.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Félicitations pour cette promotion.
 
@DeadMG i use word for word documents, and scriber for eps files
 
sbi
2:40 PM
@StackedCrooked Yes, and he all explained what happened about an hour ago.
 
@StackedCrooked Uh, it went OK.
 
@sbi Ah.
 
basically, the recruiter person told me that my CV sucked
 
lol
 
2:41 PM
and then asked me some simple technical questions- like what is the opposite of malloc and what is the worst-case run-time of quicksort
 
@DeadMG Donkey Cock, she added
 
also a couple inodes questions
 
@DeadMG if you don't have access to word 2010, then open office can do it for word documents
 
@DeadMG Sucked? May I see your CV please.
 
@DeadMG You could deal with that I suppose.
 
sbi
2:42 PM
@DeadMG Acrobat Pro?
 
also, if you're prepared to pay moneys, then adobe's tools
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah, I might have a vague idea of those things :P
@Cicada Sure.
 
I had never heard of inodes before though ...
 
sbi
1 min ago, by sehe
@DeadMG Donkey Cock, she added
 
sbi
2:43 PM
lol
 
@StackedCrooked It's basically a hierarchical pointer structure, kinda like a hybrid between a std::deque and a std::map, serialized on to disk.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked Innat the innards of a Unix FS?
 
@sbi Yep.
 
In computing, an inode (index node) is a data structure found in many Unix file systems. Each inode stores all the information about a file system object (file, directory, device node, socket, pipe, etc.), except data content and file name. Etymology The reason for designating these as "i" nodes is unknown. When asked, Unix pioneer Dennis Ritchie replied: Details A file system relies on data structures about the files, beside the file content. The former is called metadata—data that describes data. Each file is associated with an inode, which is identified by an integer number, often ...
 
@sbi I seems like an out-of-place question for phone screen. Either that or I'm severely undereducated.
 
2:44 PM
it boils down to a table with numbers from which the FS drivers can then find what they need
 
sbi
I remember hat from some lecture when I was a student. Never needed it since.
 
obtw
does stat tell you about files in Unix?
 
sbi
@ScottW Yeah, but that's because you're a dog.
 
@StackedCrooked FB were gonna ask me much harder questions than that over the phone
 
2:46 PM
@ScottW That pun needs some polish. You're almost there.
 
puns...
 
@DeadMG what else. fstat and lstat to disambiguate in case of symlnks
 
@sehe huh?
oh, ok
no, that would probably be enough.
the question was like, "What unix system call gives you information about a file from a filepath?" or something like that
 
@DeadMG Is the job that you apply for related to file systems or just software development in general?
 
Inode Yo Momma
 
Xeo
2:48 PM
@DeadMG What kind of question is that? If somebody asked me that, I'd ask back why I need to know. You can easily google commands...
 
@StackedCrooked Strictly, I haven't applied for any job. They contacted me, on Kerrek's recommendation
 
@ScottW I know, I know, Inode.
 
but they have a position for a Unix-focused thingymajig and a general one, and I said the general one would be better.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked I think the cat is Polish. Maybe he would help?
 
bad pun :P
 
2:49 PM
@sbi Nice.
 
@DeadMG depends on what info is required :) dpkg --search fname, ls -ilad fname, stat fname, date -r fname +"%T", file fname all come to mind
 
sbi
@DeadMG Wait. Kerrek is with google?
 
Who's Kerrek again?
 
@sbi Maybe the recruiter just knows him.
@StackedCrooked Kerrek SB.
 
@StackedCrooked The SB
 
2:50 PM
kek
 
o btw
the recruiter said that Google uses their own custom scale to assess candidates
and #10 is "Wrote a book on subject", which, ironically, I had already decided to do.
 
Will you get a second interview?
 
But in order to have written a book, you will have to write a book first :)
 
2:53 PM
I believe that once I chuck off an improved CV, I will get a web interview, but I'm not totally sure
 
In a declarative language you start with the book.
 
@FredOverflow True, but I'm already nearly 25% done.
 
I misread that at "improvised CV" first :)
A book about what? Templates? Wide? Women?
 
C++
 
Wide Templated Women?
 
2:54 PM
and also some algorithms, data structures, etc.
 
@DeadMG target audience?
 
@DeadMG Did he mean your CV document sucked, or that your experience sucked?
 
@FredOverflow no :)
 
@FredOverflow Beginner.
@StackedCrooked She, and CV.
or possibly both
 
@DeadMG She sucked?
 
2:55 PM
@sehe Wouldn't know.
 
@sehe Oh you!
 
I saw a CV a couple of days ago with horrible indentation. How hard is it to use tabs in Word?
 
@StackedCrooked I didn't state as much. Not even accidentally
 
@Xeo Because you have experience with it!
 
@FredOverflow Very. Especially if they used openoffice. TRWTF is Word document. Why not PDF?
 
2:55 PM
@FredOverflow I have no indentation at all :P
 
@DeadMG You should probably loose some weight, then
 
Dude, if you're getting a Google interview at least make sure your CV looks decent.
 
@sehe You can create PDFs directly? I thought most people used a variant of Office and then exported to PDF.
 
@DeadMG Relevant:
RT @berkun: "You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do." - Henry Ford
 
2:56 PM
@StackedCrooked I am vorking on it.
@sehe Very true.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow My CV isn't indented. But then again, it's in tabular form
 
@FredOverflow Well the point is, you wouldn't depend on bad happenings due to different rendering by different Office suites.
 
Xeo
@FredOverflow TeX variants and compiling to pdf or something?
 
@DeadMG I hope you get the job. It would be a cool way to shut up your mum :P
 
Markdown + pandoc :)
 
2:59 PM
@StackedCrooked Indeed it would.
 

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