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8:00 PM
@RMartinhoFernandes keepassx keeps backups of older entries.
 
This does not compile on my Mac with GCC 4.7 with the error message: error: static assertion failed: std::hash is not specialized for this type. Who is right?
 
Ell
trololol death erection
 
@StackedCrooked Very few types have specializations for std::hash, unfortunately.
 
@StackedCrooked GCC is right. You need to specialize it (piece of cake. Boost has hash_combine)
Or you could do with tuple<int,int,int,int,int,int> instead of array<> for now
Oh wait, I think only boost::tuple comes with hash<> support
 
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Q: Are there no specializations of std::hash for standard containers?

FredOverflowI just found myself a little bit surprised being unable to simply use a std::unordered_set<std::array<int, 16> > test; because there does not seem to be a std::hash specialization for std::arrays. Why is that? Or did I simply not find it? If there is indeed none, can the following ...

@StackedCrooked By the way, why do you have a map<T, bool> instead of a set<T>?
 
sbi
I haven't seen him much here lately, and he fell off the list of frequent users.
Any objections?
 
I've seen him more than you over the last two/three days :)
 
he has been around, but that much if you ask me
 
There's hash<> for strings, for vector<bool>, thread::id, error_code, bitset, unique_ptr, shared_ptr, type_index and fundamental types.
 
8:07 PM
I am sure if he wouldn't have any objects
 
@sbi As long as he's the only one that is no longer on the frequent list?
 
^ you're on it?
 
@sbi he was in here last night, telling me how stupid I am
 
sbi
@sehe Oh. Well, he is of the frequent list. I can add him back, though.
 
Who is on the frequent list, anyways. I still don't know how to manage that. I guess, anyone who started using chat after 2009 will never be in the top N
 
8:08 PM
Yeah, he's been here often lately.
 
He's been kicked off before. He might start to think we don't like him.
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked We had 11 owners, one more than we agreed on having permanently. He was the only one of them who was not on the frequent list.
 
@sbi Not for me, you needn't. It was just my observatino
 
@sehe also idling or lack therof is probably related. I don't idle here much
 
@sbi I think jalf is also off it.
 
8:09 PM
I've started using chat after 2009.
 
@sbi Can't we just have 0x10 owners? ;)
 
sbi
@sehe No. Most of who are on the list came long after that.
@StackedCrooked He wasn't 10mins ago.
 
12 owners seems right to me to buffer the rotation at the bottom of the frequent list.
 
Also, 12 is one of my favorite numbers. It can be divided by 1, 2, 3, 4, 6 and 12. Wow!
 
All lines are arbitrary. Ten is plenty. More is ... more arbitrary
 
sbi
8:10 PM
@FredOverflow Yes, we can. If we agree on, we can have 0x50 owners, too. (I suppose there's no bug that breaks the room when there's too many owners.) We did, however, agree on 10. Decimal.
 
There's nothing special about being an owner anyway.
You can change topic, and that's about it.
 
It's karma!
 
And you can divide it by π
Also, it matches the layout on my wall clock
 
How do you see most frequent list?
 
sbi
@StackedCrooked I think he has been at the bottom for quite a while. ICBWT.
 
8:11 PM
@sehe in some states/religions
 
@sehe I meant without rest, silly!
 
@JamesCuster click the info link
 
@MooingDuck Ah, I see it
 
sbi
16 secs ago, by Cat Plus Plus
http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/10/loungec
 
8:12 PM
@FredOverflow Oh. You didn't say that
 
if I have a project that depends on another one, should I treat my dependency as a sub repo or is it best to just have two side by side and import the dependencies?
 
@FredOverflow It's without remainder if π = 3.
 
@thecoshman Are you with google?
 
@sehe ¬_¬ yeah, but I'm not really getting a decent answer
 
@CatPlusPlus Since when is π = 3?
 
8:12 PM
I'm not often active here and I'm still in the frequent list. I think it's because I'm permanently logged in. I think Alf is more active than me but not always logged in.
 
Ell
how often do you have to come here to be on the frequently in this room?
 
If so, keep everything in one giant project tree
 
sbi
@sehe Considering what he reports from the company he works for, I very much doubt that.
 
@thecoshman Once again you understood something entirely different from what was asked.
@sbi I know. It was the setup for a bit of a punchline
 
@Ell I think you have to idle here while sleeping
 
8:14 PM
@Ell About 869 times a day
 
Ell
okay :L
 
@MooingDuck who pays the energy bill
 
@sehe phone idoesn't take that much power
 
@MooingDuck hmm. does seem to take quite a lot of data, and my wifi is weak in the bedroom
 
sbi
@Ell I think coming here isn't enough, you also have to talk. And you have to do that more than at least the tenth on the list of frequent users.
 
8:16 PM
@sbi frequent users is limited to ten?
 
sbi
@sehe It seems like that line punched you. :)
 
@sbi I didn't feel it. So it's ok
 
sbi
@MooingDuck That's what the chat was programmed to show. For whatever reason. And we decided to permanently keep the list of owners to those ten users.
 
huh, I'm an owner of the C room. Interesting.
 
sbi
@MooingDuck LOL!
 
8:18 PM
You created it, no?
 
@MooingDuck what will you do with it? burn?
 
@Abyx Waste of energy
 
I guess I code in C sometimes...
 
What's funnier is that DeadMG is an owner of the C room, too.
 
ooooh, a sub-repo does not have to actually be with in the main repo. #hg
 
8:19 PM
@sehe no, I think LearningC did, but since I was online at the time and helped him with his C, he made me an owner too. I think. Maybe
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus I guess he has never posted ranted there. Otherwise they would have kicked him out right away.
 
BurningC is a nice username
@sbi I find that very very hard to believe
 
sbi
@sehe You find what hard to believe?
 
@sbi That he never ranted in some of the places he ever was present
 
sbi
@sehe Well, I did make it obvious (I thought) that I equaled him posting with him ranting. I meant he must have never posted there. (Which, for him, is the same as "never ranted".)
 
8:23 PM
Well. Still unlikely. But, hey, he s an owner. Good enough.
Perhaps he wanted to morph it into a WideC room
 
@sehe it's just Wide now
 
sbi
Anyway, I will have to go to bed now. I had a terrible day and I am tired like a log.
 
(shh I know, but it doesn't rhyme that way)
 
sbi
@MooingDuck Don't be so Narrow-minded.
 
Night, ape
 
sbi
8:25 PM
Good night!
 
@sehe (it doesn't rhyme either way)
 
WideC doesn't rhyme with C?
 
@sehe: No, because WideC is pronounced as "why-deck". :-P
 
@Insilico Really. Now, who'da-thunk. Let's make a language with a nice, nonobvious, unpronouncable name with all the wrong associations.
Is there a link?
 
it's pronounced as "woof woof"
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8:28 PM
@Abyx Zing. Starred
 
@sehe I heard a comedian say they were going to call their kid "Fred", and spell it "George". And she'd need counseling.
 
@sehe Maybe WideC is pronounced "Whites"?
 
@FredOverflow I know of no language that would leave room for this pronunciation alternative
 
@sehe irrelevant.
 
@MooingDuck irreverent.
 
8:34 PM
vaguely related: my cat's name is "Figit" because my mother can't spell.
 
poor cat
 
I'm fucked.
 
ok. tell us more
 
hmm google translate won't translate English to English anymore.
 
that was good proxy
(however sometimes it didn't work)
 
8:36 PM
Also google translate used to make it easy to link to a translation, but the button seems to be gone
 
I accidentally some important files.
 
@classdaknok_t deleted?
 
@MooingDuck That project might have been incubated into the new Google Plagiarize(TM) project
 
@classdaknok_t is this bad?
 
8:37 PM
@classdaknok_t OS? Did you mention you sometimes used Eclipse and hated it's local version history?
 
@classdaknok_t {backup, version control, dropbox} to the rescue!
 
They were for school and they could come in handy may I fail my exams. I could use them next year if I fail my exams next week, so I don't have to make them again.
@sehe no, I hated Eclipse' UI because it didn't look good.
 
@FredOverflow too late
 
Undelete.
 
@sehe to apologize.
 
8:39 PM
@sehe I'm sorry, but important stuff needs to be backup up somehow.
 
@FredOverflow fake apology rejected
 
Next time, put those files on Bitbucket.
 
@FredOverflow Haven't you heard? Trash is the backup.
Or something.
 
@EtiennedeMartel bitbucket always sounds like trashcan to my ears. He did
 
No, I'll just make sure I won't fail my exams.
 
8:40 PM
I prefer to backup all my files using a svn repo inside a git repo inside a dropbox folder maintained by sky drive.
 
@CatPlusPlus unless you have a habit to use shift-del
 
@classdaknok_t That's good. You did this on purpose. Voer voor psychologen
 
@Abyx on a Mac you can't.
 
@SamDeHaan Because 6 single points of failures > 1 single point of failure
 
Poor Mac users.
 
8:41 PM
@Abyx And who doesn't
 
http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Does-Not-Compute-Crunchies,-Virtual-Returns,--More.aspx See "Recycled (from Eric D)"
Also http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/The__0x26_quot_0x3b_Make-Up_0x26_quot_0x3b__Post.aspx "from Dominic Allison"
 
 
@sehe having to read more books next year will mean death to me. :P
 
> "I'm still getting used to my new keyboard, and occasionally hit the '\' and ENTER keys at the same time," writes Michael Dowden...
 
@sehe trailing backslash?
 
8:42 PM
> I was forced to hard boot my machine since Windows doesn't allow you to edit your username on the locked-login screen."
This is a serious WTF race condition happening there, somehow!
Looks like Windows 7, as well
 
@sehe pft, nobody uses that
 
Good to know their logon box is robust. I think it will be secure as well :)
 
Everybody uses Windows XP.
 
@MooingDuck Just a few million. Nothing significant
@classdaknok_t I do. Well, if I have to. It's in a VM patiently waiting for me to fire it up. I only do it if I must help someone with MSVC
 
@classdaknok_t MS doesn't think so
 
8:44 PM
I use Windows 7, some times.
When I want to play AOE.
 
...because they dropped WinXP support in VC++11
 
@Abyx Is that decision final?
 
7 is years ahead of XP.
 
Nobody uses VC++.
 
@FredOverflow yep.
 
8:45 PM
@Abyx Well, I don't use Windows XP anymore, so I don't care :)
 
@classdaknok_t me too
 
One less platform to support is happier me.
 
Nobody —> me too? WTF?
 
@classdaknok_t nevermind, you just wrote "Nobody" with a capital letter
 
That's irrelevant.
You are confusing me!
 
8:48 PM
@Abyx That joke was old when Homer included it in the Iliad
 
Nobody is pretty cool. Eh uses VC++ and doesn't afraid of anything.
 
@sehe What Simpsons episode was that? ;-)
 
@classdaknok_t Don't make the poor guy lose his browser history as well, on the same day
 
Don't worry, I know you weren't talking about Homer Simpson ;-)
 
@sehe What?
 
8:49 PM
Don't worry, I do understand the use of smileys.
I just sometimes choose to ignore that
 
People are confusing me! Everyone GTFO and DIAF!
 
@classdaknok_t Nobody was being taken as a proper name. This trick was used in the Iliad to slay the Cyclops
 
Cyclops?
Iliad?
 
Kids these days.
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Outis (transliteration of Ancient Greek Οὖτις, in capitals ΟΥΤΙΣ, from οὔτις "nobody" or "no one") is an often used pseudonym. Artists, writers and others in public life use this pseudonym in order to hide their identity. Origin of the name "OYTIΣ" was used as a pseudonym by the Homeric hero Odysseus, when he fought Polyphemus Cyclops, and had put out the monster's eye. Polyphemus shouted in pain to the other Cyclopes of the island that "Nobody" was trying to kill him, so no one came to his rescue. The story of the Cyclops can be found in the song of the Odyssey, chapter 9 (in the Cyclope...
 
8:51 PM
@classdaknok_t you saw "O Brother, Where Art Thou?"? That story.
 
5 mins ago, by Abyx
@classdaknok_t nevermind, you just wrote "Nobody" with a capital letter
I think the allusion was pretty clear ^
@classdaknokt Perhaps you've seen
Finding Nemo is a 2003 American-Australian computer-animated comedy-drama film written and directed by Andrew Stanton, produced by Pixar Animation Studios, and released by Walt Disney Pictures. It tells the story of the overly protective clownfish Marlin (Albert Brooks) who, along with a regal tang called Dory (Ellen DeGeneres), searches for his abducted son Nemo (Alexander Gould). Along the way, Marlin learns to take risks and to let Nemo take care of himself. It is Pixar's first movie to be released in cinemas in the summer. The film received overwhelmingly positive reviews and won the ...
I haven't, but judging from the main character's name, it might deal with the same kind of 'trickery' theme
 
Oh god wtf.
 
You restored a backup /
But it was empty /
Now clouds roam your PC
 
Haiku fail.
6 syllables instead of 7.
 
Hey, I'm on the frequent list thing
 
8:58 PM
I'm not.
 
yeah you are
 
Meh. I don't do haiku's. Don't even know the rules. Anyways, many have been seen arguing on the interwebs that haikus are more about character, style and rhythm than about strict form and meter
 
second place
 
Really? Cool.
 
@rubenvb I think you're looking at currently in room?
 
8:59 PM
@JamesCuster well hell.
 
@JamesCuster Precisely
 

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