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11:00 PM
Probably because you're actively trying to listen to it.
 
Listening to my illegally-but-morally-ok-downloaded album right now, it's pretty good
 
@EtiennedeMartel Wait, are you saying that music is good if you don't listen to it?
WTF.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No.
Even then, there's a difference between "hearing" and "listening".
 
sbi
@kbok Wow. I didn't know!
I am still not convinced, though, that Etienne de Martel isn't a sockpuppet of Etienne de Martel. I mean, c'mon, how dumb does the guy think we are?
 
11:01 PM
1 min ago, by Etienne de Martel
Probably because you're actively trying to listen to it.
@sbi Very.
 
@sbi It's Eomething Martel. It's probably a common name.
 
@kbok It's actually Eric.
 
@kbok I thought it was Eric?
 
sbi
This is awesome. At least, it is so if you're old enough.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes @Cicada seems to be looking for what is essentially background noise. In those cases, simply hearing is sufficient.
 
11:02 PM
@sbi Want.
 
@EtiennedeMartel No. Oh well forget it.
 
@Cicada NEVA
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I used to be married to a joiner and programmer. If I send her this, she'll probably be OMG!
 
@sbi How many remotes does he keep in there? They just keep coming!
 
A joiner? She makes joints?
 
11:03 PM
@kbok She makes SQL joins. All day every day.
 
@kbok Carpentry.
 
@Cicada Hell on earth
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually, IIUC, carpentry is when you make the wooden parts of houses and roofs. Joiners are those that make (wooden) doors, windows, shelfs, tales, chairs etc. At least, there's a rather strict professional division between those two in German.
 
It's a type of carpenter.
 
sbi
@Cicada There's some truth in this, actually. She writes web front ends for databases. :-/
 
11:06 PM
And she makes furniture.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's on the same order as likening a programmer to a power-line worker because you both work with electrical stuff.
 
Maybe she could create a wooden robot?
 
@sbi See. I make sense on occasions. Accidentally.
 
sbi
@kbok That's the profession she learned before she started to study CS.
@Cicada Making sense isn't something that happens accidentally.
 
@JerryCoffin Hey, wikipedia agrees with me! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joiner At least if you ignore the [citation needed] markers.
whistles
 
11:07 PM
@sbi I must be special.
 
@Cicada There's this as well.
 
sbi
Relevant:
> Of course you can spend the night, as long as you make the bed. There is lumber and tools out back. Thanks. — @TEXASVETERAN
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Hey, wikipedia agrees with me!" (English translation: Damn, wrong again!").
 
@sbi I am not sure he will be happy with the noise.
 
@EtiennedeMartel That actually sounds well!
 
sbi
11:09 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh. You know the guy?
 
@Cicada It's an epic video on the timeline of "The Legen of Zelda" series. I just finished watching it and holy shit batman. They pulled off some pretty sick CG to go with it too.
 
@Cicada Yeah, figured it would be better if it was simpler.
 
@sbi I don't get it?
 
@Borgleader I'm at about half.
 
sbi
11:10 PM
@kbok I didn't say that!
 
@EtiennedeMartel Je ne relèverai pas ce que tu martèles.
 
@Cicada Je croyais que "insinuer" impliquait un certain niveau de subtilité?
 
sbi
> Whoever decided to call them bras instead of booby traps seriously lacked imagination. — @BitchBright
 
Non, non, en fait, mon frère est un musicien snob, alors disons que ça a un peu déteint sur moi.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Le côté snob je suppose ?
 
11:12 PM
@Cicada Oui.
 
@sbi I know how much noise making a bed does.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Think about the bed you slept in when you were here.
 
sbi
How was that made?!
 
With wood?
 
sbi
11:14 PM
Did it look like we bought it at Ikea?
 
No idea. I don't get what you are trying to say.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Damn, that room had several beds. All home-made. IIRC, I have built, or helped building, 5 different beds for various of my kids.
Scratch that, I just thought of a sixth one.
Seventh.
 
So? Can you make them silently?
 
sbi
Whatever, I know very well what making a bed on your own is about.
 
I meant that if someone was making a bed while sleeping over, the other guy would not like the noise because he would probably be trying to sleep.
 
sbi
11:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did I ever boast I could? You were bringing up the noise issue, and I never disputed it.
 
@sbi What's wrong with Ikea?
 
You guys are weird
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You can build a bed during the day, you know. It doesn't have to be done at night. Just saying.
 
I wish foo(unsigned... args) was allowed
 
sbi
@Chimera You mean except for them them making their Köttbullar out of whatever wasn't picked up at Smaland when they closed last night?
 
11:21 PM
The humble bundle already crossed 1 mil
 
sbi
@Pubby T()-1 > 0? Shudder.
@kbok Coming from you, I take that as a compliment.
 
@sbi What?
 
@sbi I don't eat at Ikea. I buy the furniture... You saying the food is bad?
 
What, am I excessively normal?
 
sbi
@Pubby Employ that in some enable_if fuckup clause.
 
11:23 PM
enable_if breaks the type deducing AFAIK :(
 
@Pubby technically it is, it's just not recommended.
 
sbi
@Chimera I said nothing of the taste. It's tender, of course. :)
@Pubby static_assert
 
template<typename unsigned... T>
void foo(T... args)
^that would be nice
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck Eh, what?
 
@Borgleader Well that was interesting.
 
@Pubby, sorta like the @rest parameter in lisp. But if you do that, you sorta have to push all those args in the stack or have some other way of counting them.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck That's different, it declares foo(unsigned <unnamed>, ...)
 
> Humble
> Edsger W. Dijkstra
hum
 
@Xeo it's a variadic function (nontemplate), leftover from C.
 
Xeo
11:27 PM
What we want is just like variadic templates, but with a fixed type.
@Pubby: Why not propose it on the isocpp.org future proposals forum?
 
Before I do, maybe this would work:
 
I find it funny when I try to load a solution in MSVS and I get the "Preparing solution" dialog - it's like it knows I'm going to mess it up.
 
Hm, nevermind
 
Xeo
@LuchianGrigore Heh, as in, mentally prepare?
@Pubby I pondered whether to immediately post "nope" even before you show any code. :)
 
What I was thinking was to have something like kerrek's answer where only unsigned is enabled
 
11:30 PM
@Xeo exactly. I'm imagining the IDE telling the solution "don't worry, it will all be over soon. What's the worst that can happen? he'll just add a few more bugs..."
 
@Cicada I know right. Never thought it was that complex.
 
Then have a disable_if version which calls the unsigned version foo(static_cast<unsigned>(args)...);
 
Maybe I can use my free 5 GB from Ubuntu One for storing the Coliru archives.
 
Or maybe that should use some type of forwarding
 
Xeo
Sure, but that's unnecessarily complicated.
@Pubby Forwarding? For built-in types?
 
11:31 PM
@Xeo Just in general
I want syntax sugar
 
Xeo
Anyways, the two-part version works. And writing the condition isn't that hard.
 
sbi
This is DE-CIX, the world's biggest Internet exchange point. It fits into four cabinets, the remaining five ones are for future extensions.
There's something subtly wrong in this picture.
Well, I'm outta here. G'night!
 
There's a pig on the couch
 
@sbi night!
 
@kbok smoke alarm/light is broken/disabled
 
Xeo
11:39 PM
@MooingDuck I think that's just a "fancy" design.
 
I still can't SFINAE.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Do you have any upper limit on the size of the code?
 
@Xeo There's a limit on the amount of diskspace the sandboxes process can use.
 
Xeo
Mhm
That works, I guess
 
system("find / | xargs cat"); probably returns a few MB before it's killed by timeout.
 
Xeo
11:43 PM
You have system enabled?
 
system("yes")
 
@Xeo no forking though IIRC
 
@Xeo I can't specifically disable "system". However, I also want to allow some access to the system.
 
Xeo
// prelude.h
#define system(...) NO U!
:D
 
That could probably be worked around..
 
Xeo
11:45 PM
Yeah, #undef system :P
 
I'm pretty convinced that couldn't possibly 'have fixed it'. See my answer. This code is riddled with mistakes — sehe 16 secs ago
 
Xeo
Hmpf, I think I'll leave my PC running tonight to compile Clang. I need to get an up-to-date version on that again...
 
Intel TBB documentation inspired me to use frames. Frames are supposed to be bad, but they are the only way to get a "splitter" bar without a writing a heap of JavaScript code.
 
Frames are only bad for templating site layouts
 
11:52 PM
And the "Compile Automatically" checkbox text is no longer selectable. This change reduced my stress levels with by least 30%.
 
Xeo
@StackedCrooked Can haz "Compile" button?
 
@StackedCrooked s/with/by ?
 
@StackedCrooked oh hey, you have a splitter bar now. Nice
 
Xeo
Btw, is it intended that after hitting "Share!", you can't edit the code anymore?
 
@MooingDuck It's not perfect yet.
 
11:54 PM
@Xeo keeps things clear that way. It's "permanently" saved.
 
@Xeo If you press that button the page url changes to the shared paste. You can simply press the back button to keep coding. This is a bit awkward and I'm planning to improve that.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck So?
 
@sbi The curtains are not from the IKEA catalog
 
@Xeo well it's confusing when I have code in the textbox, copy the URL, give it to someone else, and they see completely different code.
 
Xeo
@MooingDuck That's what LWS did the whole time.
 
11:55 PM
Perhaps the saved page should use not use a textarea for its rendering. This way it won't mislead you into thinking that it's editable.
 
Xeo
You only got a new link if you hit "Run"
 
@Xeo and ideone, and it's misleading.
 
Xeo
I don't think so, but ok.
 
My colleague invariably uses %u when printing any kind of integer using printf. Miraculously the code seems to work. I theorize that this is because Intel uses little-endian byte encoding.
 

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