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12:00 PM
> As I said in the commet above
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it flew right over my head
This problem was solved before the first computer was ever built, have a -1 for your total lack of research. — Rakkun 3 mins ago
I wish I could add "please kindly go fuck yourself" but that would probably get flagged
this site makes me rage
 
@Rakkun Just laugh.
 
or move on
 
sad laugh
 
@Rakkun I don't even know what the problem is.
Since there are no negative cost paths, [] is the path with the least cost.
 
12:02 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shortest path in a graph. Solved in the 50's.
 
lol
 
@Rakkun Actually, I think you might be overreacting. The OP had the cart before the horse, but has clearly invested time and effort. I think he/she deserves to be (vehemently) pointed in the right direction without fuming :)
 
@sehe Yeah I know, but I've been seeing too many questions like this one.
 
@Rakkun Nope, that still doesn't sound like a description.
"Shortest path" without further qualification is [].
 
12:03 PM
@Rakkun The past few days seems worse than normal actually
 
user784668
Is there any static analyzer for POSIX shell?
 
@Rakkun I sometimes say that and nobody flags me. I never say it out of spite though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Shortest as in "path joining all four vertices with the lowest cost"
 
@Rakkun Actually, most of them have (a) no samples (b) no explanation (c) no current code (c) no schematics/images. This post had all of those.
 
12:04 PM
@Rakkun []
 
@sehe Except the brain
 
I'm saving downvotes for 'I like coding, but debugging is hard - please do it all for me so I can have more fun writing code that does not work' - questions.
 
@Rakkun I purposely didn't mention one ;/
 
@sehe I have seen much worse, there is effort there ... OP is just missing the knowledge which is why they are asking
 
@sehe Yeah. The only problem is that the explanation is lacking.
@Rakkun "path joining all three vertices" now you are just making shit up.
(and there are four vertices)
 
12:05 PM
Well, it's sad to see people waste so much time, but hey: at least in this case the "obvious solution pointer is obvious"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No no, check the explanations. It's a variant of a minimum spanning tree.
 
stop right there criminal scum. You've violated the law
 
@Crowz puts bucket on head
 
@Rakkun I did. They mention no restrictions whatsoever about anything.
@Rakkun MSTs are not paths.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Maladie sexuellement transmissible ?
 
12:08 PM
Would it be a good idea to have questions must be peer reviewed before they were published up to x rep?
 
no
 
I think they would stack up too fast
 
The reviewers are bad too
 
That's my error message whenever a user does what they're not supposed to
 
lol, reviewers
 
12:08 PM
Bad bad bad
 
lol, someone assumed TSP.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. He's kindly received my vote
 
ok not a good idea but there is some effort in closing also + the noise
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Actually I think he's correct. (:D)
 
lolwut, now it's not MST?
Yeah, that's how good the explanations are.
 
12:11 PM
I don't know. The more I read the less I understand.
 
Just like poor OP.
 
morning
I wonder if Stacked did ever successfully execute the Wide compiler.
 
You finished the compiler?
 
yeah right :p
 
I never said that
 
12:15 PM
Hence my question
 
but he did build it with GCC
 
Wait, are you trying to say that Wide might actually exist?
2
 
@DeadMG What language is the compiler for?
 
Wide.
It says so right there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Define "exist" :P
 
12:18 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I did not know Wide was a language
 
@ShafikYaghmour Neither did we :P
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Wait, are you trying to say that Wide might actually exist?
 
Its Puppies language
 
well
I did just add decltype, which is nice.
 
you should have std.woof
 
@TonyTheLion It's barking mad.
 
12:19 PM
@TonyTheLion Oh neat
 
@TonyTheLion poo.py
 
@Rakkun that's python
 
@TonyTheLion you noticed!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, stacked did build it, but IDK if he ever got around to linking it
 
12:20 PM
I wonder if everybody in this room really know every language in the matrix, not many gaps. I have only gaps
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh? did I somehow insult/upset/offend you?
 
user784668
@DeadMG integer additions would be nicer
 
@DeadMG Heh - linking it is a bad move. If he did that, he might have to run it :(
 
@thecoshman Second.
But it's me, not you.
@JohanLarsson What matrix?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes really? how?
 
12:22 PM
I'm silly.
1 hour ago, by thecoshman
just a burn a few start books, like larry toter
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes this matrix
 
We call that a chart.
:P
 
Only in the UK:
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/05/10/us-britain-gove-history-idUKBRE9490F120130510
 
yeah... well, I failed at spelling 'Larry Trotter'... a spoof of 'Harry Potter'... is 'toter' Portuguese for something? (and I spelt Portuguese right the first time... not the second time though, damn)
 
@thecoshman It was merely a friendly "fuck off" of dismissal, btw.
 
12:24 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes so were you upset or not?
 
@Rapptz ok lol English is just one language I suck at
 
It is technically a matrix though
 
@thecoshman You made me cringe. That was all. Don't worry about it.
@thecoshman Nah, 'twas the first part.
 
@thecoshman he secretly hates you now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes about burning books?
 
12:26 PM
Yes.
 
@thecoshman GENIUS
 
@Rakkun back in your cave you
 
Robot was a book in his previous life
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ... really?
 
12:27 PM
@thecoshman YES. I'm crazy like that.
 
It's just Robot, books are precious
 
That's not rational.
 
Tony saw my face when sbi opened a book and made a crease on the cover.
 
well... I was about to post an image of such an act... but I'll think better of it.
@R.MartinhoFernandes was there some childhood incident?
 
12:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes how do you feel about burning ebooks?
 
ebooks? You'd have to burn a computer or ebook reader.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ehh?
 
Burning ebooks in Recycle Bin? :)
 
@thecoshman No, don't think so.
 
You're over-sensitive about books?
 
12:29 PM
damn
 
@TonyTheLion I guess you could print out a copy of the binary...
 
burning books is the worst
 
note to self: you didn't generate copy or move constructors for lambdas
 
@StackedCrooked I don't like ebooks.
 
Yeah, burning books is bad.
 
12:29 PM
surprised only Robot and I have any concept of culture in here
 
bit of a noob mistake
 
no wait, I'm not surprised
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes does this irrational behaviour extend to damage to magazines?
 
@Rapptz Yes.
@thecoshman No. It's not rational.
 
12:30 PM
When I learned about the burning of the library in Alexandria I felt sad though.
But times were different then.
Today no knowledge would be lost.
 
@StackedCrooked Because?
I can trivially produce a book with no copies.
 
well yeah, I get not liking damaging rare books, but the mass produced books with hundreds of copies.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It will probably suck though.
 
Well, no one cares about your book.
 
12:31 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I mean if a bunch of modern books got burned then there are still other copies.
 
I'm sure if it was worthwhile it would have been published for the common good.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so you are ok with using a newspaper to get a fire going?
 
@StackedCrooked again, no, not necessarily. you have a distorted and narrow view of "modern books"
 
and if it was published it'd be preserved somehow.
 
@thecoshman Yes.
 
12:32 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well then, go fuck yourself :)
 
@DeadMG Any particular problem you are trying to solve with Wide or is it just for the experience?
 
it's the principle, anyway. like burning flags
 
@ShafikYaghmour C++
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but not taking one of a box of copies of the same book?
 
I don't care about burning flags :S
 
12:32 PM
@ShafikYaghmour just for trolling
@Rapptz how about if I burn your mother?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit well, that's a different matter.
 
How is that even related?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit can you replace her?
 
@Rapptz How is it not?
 
@thecoshman he can try
 
12:33 PM
@thecoshman Of course! Yours is next.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Flags are not fat.
 
books != mother
 
@TonyTheLion Interesting.
 
@TonyTheLion fire == fire
 
@StackedCrooked ¬_¬ not sure I would be that bothered to be fair...
 
12:33 PM
@TonyTheLion TIL
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they are if you fold them up
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So a better C++?
 
Anyway, you're free to burn an American flag and I wouldn't care.
 
@thecoshman No. I actually own several copies of some books.
 
Or any flag really
 
12:34 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit There are no flags big enough to compare to his mother.
 
You may when you're older
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just to keep one mint?
 
@thecoshman all
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what if it were Schildt books?
 
12:34 PM
@StackedCrooked those are not books
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not even close.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes how... how do you read them?
 
He doesn't really read books
He collects them for looking at
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit To caring when I'm older.
 
12:35 PM
do you have some sort of crazy periscope like device so you only have to open the little bit?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You had a vim plugin to do sudo things, how was it called?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How many do you own?
 
@StackedCrooked I don't buy them. If someone gifts them to me, and I don't gift them away, I would probably care for them as for the others.
 
@Rapptz even older then
omg
 
@CatPlusPlus It's something from tpope. Weird name.
 
12:35 PM
gift is not a verb
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Neither is verb.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes stem your passions
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so... if we all sent you a copy of some crappy book that is of little to no worth...say the bible (lol, I went there, but lets move on now folks)... you would keep every single copy safe forever more?
 
@thecoshman Well, not like most people, apparently. But I would say... naturally :S
 
Hi all. I have a question about semaphore.h. Can anyone help?
 
12:36 PM
@thecoshman I own one copy of the Bible.
 
@iWheelBuy OK! I know that file well
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but if we sent your more copies... of the exact same version?
 
I still have this book on my shelf. I bought it back in 1999. I read the first half during the couple months after that. However, it proved useful once in 2008 because it has a introductory chapter for COM which I needed to use then.
 
I lost my copy of the the Bible
 
@StackedCrooked I've a hot one
 
12:37 PM
@JohanLarsson Not crazy many, since I haven't been financially independent for a long time, but should be getting close to one hundred now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I own 10 full copies. But that include NIV, KJ, Vulgata and Greek (new testament only), a dutch side-by-side edition and a family piece
 
erm... I don't think I've ever owned a copy of the bible...
 
er, define the bible
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have initialized my semaphore sem_init (&semaphore, 1, 0); right? Now I use sem_wait(&semaphore); and I expect the program to wait for ever. Am I right?
 
@sehe I know.
Jan 6 '12 at 13:05, by sehe
@DeadMG who said he does? I have the Quran (polyglot edition), and the Bible (NT in Greek + Vulgata). I'm not practicing all that shit either :)
 
12:38 PM
Ah :)
 
@iWheelBuy no idea. take a basic CS course
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit okay
 
@iWheelBuy i know
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit popular book of bullshit that a large group of religious folk believe in
 
I believe in bullshit.
 
12:39 PM
@thecoshman you missed my point.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what do you make of cooking books SCNR
3
 
@thecoshman What I said before: I might give them away, but if I don't I would not damage them.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no, I know your point, I choose not to credit it with a capital letter.
 
@thecoshman lmao
 
@thecoshman hm ok but that's not what I meant. point is there is no single book called "bible"
 
12:40 PM
I wouldn't damage them. That would be a kind of psychotic thing to do. "I don't like this book, so I'll shred it and burn it."
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh what ever the fucking bit of crap is.
 
@StackedCrooked I'm cleaning my study out (waaaaaay overdue) and I keep finding gems. Like "Het programmeren van de 8086/8088" (J.W. Coffron, 1987), "The Waite Group's Essential Guide to Turbo C" (1989)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Point is: it seems you are the only one having trouble following the conversation about the Bible :P
 
Nuke it from the orbit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I can follow the conversation just fine. I'm simply pointing out its inherent flaws.
 
12:41 PM
@StackedCrooked want to start my fire... grab one of those damn bibles the folks from the lounge keep sending you
 
Also "Turbo Prolog 2.0" and "Java Cookbook"
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Have fun
 
explains so much
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, he seems to be the only being a pedantic arse about trivial matters.
 
@thecoshman that's the one
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :|
 
12:42 PM
The flaws are hardly inherent to the book. Of course, the flaws are inherent to a cult around a book
 
although you'll not find it quite so "trivial" when your country has been decimated by wars predicated on whose version of the bible is the "right" one
 
Many more much more flawed books have been written and consumed.
 
@sehe I was referring to the flaws in the conversation.
 
Lol. Just saw latest xkcd.
 
12:43 PM
@StackedCrooked Sympathy laugh?
 
Of which there were none for most people involved in it.
 
@sehe Yes - usually just before a raid by IRS/HMRC.
 
Think "The Celestine Prophecy" (also one I found on my shelves) or "50 shades" (not found on my shelves)
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit stop right there! you are getting dangerously close to making this a conversation about where morals come from.
 
We talk in our common language. That's called communication.
 
12:43 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ok
@MartinJames lol
 
@sehe don't tell Robot that people eat books!
 
Slow...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes huh, where do they speak communication?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Except it's not common, because I don't accept your term "the bible" for all variants. Therefore, you fail at communication.
Seems it's "common" until you encounter somebody who disagrees with you!
 
12:45 PM
No one likes an asshole.
 
lol, disagreement
 
@Rapptz My mother likes me
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit <3
 
@Rapptz And I quite like you
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's an umbrella term for all versions of that bullshit.
 
user784668
12:45 PM
The bible? You're talking about that poor fantasy book?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You fail at tolerance, common sense, proportions and communication (as in keeping an open channel).
 
@thecoshman it's not raining
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit If you prefer you can read my statement as "I don't mind keeping Tomalak out of our conversation".
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Communication has a sender and a receiver both can be broken
 
@sehe Nah not really I just pretend to in order to wind people up
 
12:45 PM
and I spelled umbrella so badly, spell checker wanted to correct it to breadcrumb :(
 
@JohanLarsson But then which if not both is wrong?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Such a nice guy. Pffft. Ego issues
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I wouldn't mind that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well that's not very nice is it
@sehe Ego issues? Sure, if trolling some lame chat room is "ego issues". Okay.
@thecoshman lol
 
Indeed it is. Especially since it's obviously compulsive and uncontrollable.
 
12:46 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it has a name, it's called "Trolling"
 
and plonk. let sensible communication resume. :)
 
Good idea.
 
@sehe I'm completely in control of it. I use it at will. Thanks for your concern, though! However, I suggest plonking me if you have a problem with it. Then you're in control! That will help with your inability to handle it.
 
@thecosh FWIW, my favourite book (as in book-object, not book-work) is one I had restored since I found it on the street without a back cover. Actually, that was the first book I ever owned. Maybe if you are shrink that is significant.
 
just a hunch... but I assume a good response right now is "@LightnessRacesinOrbit I don't give a fuck"
@R.MartinhoFernandes that sounds... complex... how old?
 
12:48 PM
@thecoshman How is your mother today?
 
@thecoshman Dunno, sometime around 9, I guess.
 
¬_¬ I should probably find a GIF for him too... fuck it
 
Anyway, the point is, burning books is bad. It's a symbol -- the removal of knowledge.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes where you a, 'poor' family?
 
I think it's probably worse than burning flags
 
12:49 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Hehehe. No need to suggest this. You've been plonked for months now. Every once in a while I use "show posts" to peek at what is going on. I do have my moments where I want in on all the "fun"!
 
@sehe Haha! I do that with you, too!
For now, though, back in your box you go
 
Lame. Childishness displayed.
 
@Rapptz The best way to torture Robot: collect a bunch of signed manuscript of Terry Pratchett's work. Begin eating Fried Chicken Wings - spicy - and carelessly fondling the pages. :D
 
@thecoshman We were never wealthy, but I had read lots of my father's books before, and I used the school library quite often.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Free?
 
12:50 PM
What free? The library? Yes.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I still have twenty or so school library books on robots and space and stuff, that I found a few years ago. "Oops"
 
@sehe yeah, he's in and out of my plonk list more then Lindsay Lohan is with rehab.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ours is free until you forget to return them, and then only until you forget to pay the fines. Seems 15 years is some kind of de facto statute of limitations
(as opposed to a statue of limitations, which I almost wrote there)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes only child?
or at least oldest child
 
@StackedCrooked: Did you ever link Wide?
 
12:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The library was my favorite place as a kid. I didn't spend a lot of time in it but I would check out 6, 7 books at a time.
 
@thecoshman and.... away you go now, too. shame. I thought we were friends.
 
@DeadMG Ah, not yet.
 
yiz
Oo
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, was the same. In pretty much every library I frequented I was forgiven some exorbitant late fee at least once.
 
@ThePhD As a child, I was only allowed to check out three books at a time :(
 
12:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's just too easy to keep them
 
@ThePhD I remember a limit of three at some point.
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: In plonk paradise. [c++] [c++11] [no-helpdesk]
 
@TonyTheLion <3
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ... you have precious few friends
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I always brought them back, just not always in the right month :S
 
12:53 PM
The plonk feature should be removed, really, in order to train people how to deal with other human beings without intervention from a computer
 
@thecoshman Yes, oldest of two.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes and I assume with each page ironed smooth after people have folded corners :P
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I could abuse those limits. With my brothers and sisters and my Mom, that made 9 of us. When someone wasn't checking out the maximum number of books, we would transfer over limits and hold each other's books.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Younger sibling burnt books, or? Curious about the extreme reaction.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes by... six years I will guess?
 
12:53 PM
I think our library had a limit of 4, but 4 x 9 = 36 books. :D
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the computer feature should be removed, really, in order to train people how to deal with other human beings
 
@Fanael that too
 
@ThePhD My library had a limit of 5 books.
 
@thecoshman I don't remember having this behaviour before I started needing my own shelf.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That could imply painful family tragedy (oldest of two _only child_s...? Hmm. I think I can make it work in my brain)
 
12:54 PM
yea let's abandon computers
 
@Fanael SE will struggle enforcing that though
 
@thecoshman No, two years.
 
user784668
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh, and FYI: it's possible to ignore people in RL, too.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah - I got round that by reading books inside the library and taking out another three books just before the library closed. The staff did not like me much :(
 
What's the relevance of my brother?
@sehe Erm, no.
 
12:55 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes his presence probably usurped your stuff being yours
 
yiz
 
@MartinJames that's... what libraries are for though?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I didn't think so :) I just think it's fun to explore boundary interpretations of statements.
 
@Fanael s/in RL/IRL/
 
@Fanael Indeed! But without an automatic filter in place. You have to do it yourself (which I find preferable and more respectable!)
@Fanael For example, when announcing /ignores on IRC or plonks on SE, I'm generally lying. I just mean that I will no longer respond to those people, as I am capable of ignoring what they say from thereonout.
And, yes, I did just invent "thereonout" :)
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't know if there is one. That's why I asked :/
 
12:56 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, yes, I have one younger brother.
 
@thecoshman Yes - but the staff got annoyed when I brought three books for checkout at 16:59
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok
 
The all mighty powerful Lightness... able to ignore people at will without aids
 
I did lash out at him when he damaged one of my books, but he learned not to do it soon enough.
 
12:57 PM
You lashed out at someone? Woah
 
@MartinJames what? you want them to do there job?
 
@thecoshman ... in one minute.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is it only books, or are you... fussy... about other stuff?
@R.MartinhoFernandes no, for one more minute, after that I would just really appreciate it.
 
@TonyTheLion Except he needed to announce his plonks just minutes before saying such things.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ..before barcodes and library 'credit-card' ID passes.
 
12:58 PM
@thecoshman I tend to hoard some other silly stuff, but I am not really that fussy about it.
 
@sehe lol, I was taking the piss
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes like toys for example?
 
I like keeping meaningless stuff that I have memories attached to.
 
@TonyTheLion Just a property of being an adult :)
 

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