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3:02 PM
@TimCastelijns check this out
its works only for the first time
and my guess its has something to do with onBack and Fragments
 
3:16 PM
@PetterFriberg he prefers being called Fire
 
Who cares about what he prefers? :)
 
I have a question is `onPause()` called when the app starts?

Docs say no, but in our app it is?!
 
Valid answer, now you'll need to watch your back for your entire life
 
@PetterFriberg I did read that, apparently it doesn't get called during startup :(
 
3:20 PM
@RaymondArteaga meeh Cold will watch it for me :)
 
@codeconscious aren't you sure about what's going on in your app?
@PetterFriberg he will burn your back side
 
@codeconscious there is no onPause callback tied with application. If its getting called, that means your are finishing your activity or something like that
 
@RaymondArteaga well, no! I enter the C++ world as soon as the app starts and some horrendous magic happens in between.
 
@codeconscious it can be reason like this probably stackoverflow.com/a/7377208/5292302 (hence for some reason it get's paused), I'm not sure why you worry, for sure don't count on it that it's always called
 
@IvanMilisavljevic thanks, I totally forgot about this. This might help :)
@PetterFriberg thanks :)
 
3:25 PM
yw, I never programmed in android... just guessing from docs :D
 
@PetterFriberg the reason is because in onPause(). I am sending a call to JNI method to save the state and if the library isn't loaded, it crashes the app. I wrote a work around count >= 1
 
@RaymondArteaga who told you frogooo -_-
@PetterFriberg hey man how is life?
peter dont listen to this evil frog
 
@codeconscious I would not do stuff like that instead somehow check if it loaded, some darn flag...
 
@codeconscious I'm his manager, he accepts BTC, y sent a BTC address to the email associated to your account
 
@codeconscious maybe your activity is getting paused so?
 
3:28 PM
@ColdFire Everything is running smooth our flag squad is keeping SO clean for you all :)
 
yay~
i sneak in sometimes there to bring order to the room
 
@codeconscious I've heard booleans are better
 
well we can't clean questions to much stuff... but only answer and comments...
 
@PetterFriberg yeah that's the right way. :)
 
hmm if i have free time i will try to visit more
 
3:30 PM
@RaymondArteaga :)
 
@codeconscious just check if the lib is loaded?
there is a function for that right ? or no?
 
@ColdFire nope, you have to use reflection
 
@ColdFire np when ever you have time.
 
3:59 PM
@IvanMilisavljevic looks almost blank, what are the key pointers?
 
what do you mean looks almoust blank?
aha
check the navigation graphs
 
no code, nav graph looks template
I'll check more on monday, I'm leaving
 
just so you know there is a problem
due to dialog fragments and OnBackPressed callbacks
so this graph is forking only for the first time
when you try to to open the modal for the second time
app is crashing with duplicate id for <fragment> (because backstack is not handled properly)
 
TIL that onStop() has the same likelihood as onDestroy()
 
Zoe
@IvanMilisavljevic Not specifically new though.
 
TLDR every big projects sucks
The f**k up is inevitable
 
rm -rf AOSP/*
and start from scratch
 
git commit -m "deleted Android"
 
@IvanMilisavljevic that's what usually happens for big projects. It goes beyond fixable, then teams are recreated and whole project is reworked and eventually it collapses again
 
4:14 PM
thats whats going on right now
 
rm -rf life/skills/android && mkdir life/skills/gardening
 
Zoe
sudo rm -rf /universe && mkdir universe-2 # Remakes terrible dev tools
 
sudo rm -rf /
@TaseerAhmad yeah i know, thats whats going on right now, wrapping everything in layers and layers of abstraction to hide core issues
with insanely complex implementation details, riddled with bugs
 
They were working on Fuschia, but I heard it was just a test system and is not planned for shipping
Maybe...who knows. Google release their new OS eventually. They are already trying to get rid of Java environment
 
4:21 PM
@TaseerAhmad lets hope for the best
 
@TaseerAhmad I would say, AOSP would be much better if google weren't so strict and controlling about it. It is open-source but doesn't quite fit definitions of it :(
It is just an open-source software, not an open-source community based software
 
Im 100% against non-native platforms, but that might be the way to go
 
Can't argue on their reasoning to add strictness. I mean, look at the average user, they don't know what's right and wrong. Google has to spoon feed the average lad. I believe the reason why they are doing it is to avoid potential law suits
My two cents are, One should be a 'universal' software engineer willing to scale as the time changes. We should be looking these platforms nothing but merely as islands that eventually sink
 
there is no benefit google will get by making a desktop OS
they cant put ads
my bet is they will try to get a piece of AWS market share
they have nothing
 
Chromium OS
 
4:27 PM
Idk why they are doing it. But the only reason linux is flourishing is because it is mostly the community controlling it under a benevolent dictator.

Google on the other hand -- try going to the android bug tracker
 
@TaseerAhmad true, but you have to invest a lot of time and practice into every platform
 
I hated reading books before, but I am enjoying reading these software related books
What PDF reader do you guys use?
 
@TaseerAhmad evince
 
tenor is banned here xd
 
4:35 PM
current mood
 
@IvanMilisavljevic Why does your profile pic looks flat?
 
i live in 2D world :)
 
You're one of the boneless?
(Kudos for the ones who get that)
 
ammm vikings?
 
Nope
 
4:49 PM
the doctor who?
 
YES
kudos
 
5:01 PM
sudo -rm mauker
 
@ColdFire is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
 
sudo !!
 
@JBis no u
 
Uhm, Tim?
If you could give feedback on my code, that would be really great!
 
5:18 PM
which code
 
5:30 PM
I have not shared it yet, the code is about media players/ media recorders
Media Recorder <-- Dialog Fragment --> MediaPlayer
 
o/ all
 
o/
 
ok then so far I think the code is great
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5:52 PM
This is a great Q&A
14
A: When does AI become more than just complicated predefined logic?

Johan KotlinskiAI doesn't "become" actual AI... It's the other way around, it stops being AI when you figure out how it works. Recommended reading: PoAIP

> AI doesn't "become" actual AI... It's the other way around, it stops being AI when you figure out how it works.
 
I found a book that may cure my perfectionism
 
I was hoping it was gonna be Raghav's book
 
Ribbit ribbit
 
6:15 PM
oops should have watched the whole thing
 
6:29 PM
@mehdi ep 3 had a reference to us :O
 
7:09 PM
no
 
7:51 PM
Jesus christ last night was insane
a whole city-wide party
 
8:20 PM
your village of 20 doesn't count as a city
 
 
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9:46 PM
@DaveS Here is your reminder
 
10:14 PM
@MehdiB.
 
 
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11:17 PM
Ribbit
 
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